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by John Cole|  July 23, 20128:17 pm| 139 Comments

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I’ve been thoroughly sucked into Season 1 of Downton Abbey. I just love the Dowager Countess.

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  1. 1.

    the Conster

    July 23, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Yup. Shirley McLaine is going to be awesome as Cora’s mother this season to match wits with her too. Talk about scenery chewing! Can’t.wait.

  2. 2.

    RedKitten

    July 23, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Huh…well, I wasn’t sure if I wanted to check it out, but you and I DO have startlingly similar tastes in TV shows, so I may have to give it a second look.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Isn’t she wonderful!?

    And just wait until next year (Season 3) when she locks horns with Shirley MacLaine. There won’t be an unchewed piece of scenery within a 10-mile radius!

  4. 4.

    Nicole

    July 23, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Go into Season 2 with low expectations.

  5. 5.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    I, for one, would like to pit the Dowager Countess against Ann Romney.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Damn you, Conster!

  7. 7.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    July 23, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    I lurv that show!!!

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 23, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @JenJen: I don’t think AR could cover the spread.

  9. 9.

    EJ

    July 23, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Season 1 is just about perfect TV. Normally this isn’t the sort of thing I watch, but I absolutely love it.

    Season 2 is, well… it depends a lot on your tolerance for absurdly plotted melodrama. I like it but I hope they take the widespread criticism to heart for Season 3.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    July 23, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    I totally got sucked into it one weekend on Netflix. LOVE IT.

    LOVE IT.

    and, the new Sherlock Holmes series.

  11. 11.

    S. Holland

    July 23, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Love love that show….can’t wait till fall!!

  12. 12.

    rikyrah

    July 23, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    anyone watching Political Animal on USA?

  13. 13.

    lamh35

    July 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Speaking of UK, I see FLOTUS Olympics schedule is out. In includes a state dinner hosted by Queen Elizabeth for all the visiting Olympic “dignitaries”. Who wanna bet Mittens and Ms Ann are trying their damndest to get into that state dinner with the Queen. I’m just betting they are right bout now trying to convince some stupid dowager count/coutness to let them be their their +1.

    Wouldn’t surpise me none.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    July 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    I know I’m late, but I just finished watching the end of Eureka. I’m satisfied with it. I loved this show, and will miss it. I’m glad they knew they were being cancelled and planned appropriately.

  15. 15.

    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    What the hell? Ichiro a Yankee?

    That does it. Nuke Seattle from orbit. The kid can find a different college.

  16. 16.

    jl

    July 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Spoiler alert: some war breaks out at the end, and ruins everyone’s plans.

  17. 17.

    Nicole

    July 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @EJ: Me too. I loved Season One and hated Season Two. Though the Downton Abbey Paper Dolls on vulture.com almost made up for it.

  18. 18.

    rikyrah

    July 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    still at the SCI-FI Channel, Warehouse 13 and ALPHAS return TONIGHT!!

  19. 19.

    James E. Powell

    July 23, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    My favorite Dowager Countess moment:

    Lady Grantham: You are quite wonderful the way you see room for improvement wherever you look. I never knew such reforming zeal.

    Mrs. Crawley: I take that as a compliment.

    Lady Grantham: I must’ve said it wrong.

  20. 20.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @burnspbesq: Nooooo!! Seriously?

    Shit. You’re serious.

    And Rick Nash became a New York Ranger today. It’s not a good day for sports (or sports threads). Unless maybe you’re a New Yorker!

  21. 21.

    jl

    July 23, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    @lamh35: If Rafalca wins a medal, is it an ‘Olympic dignitary’ and be at this posh feed? If so, I think Romneys should be there too. Call me bipartisan and overly even handed.

    Edit: just thought that in that case Romneys will have to sit behind Rafalca? Well, they can figure it out.

  22. 22.

    Nicole

    July 23, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @lamh35: The Queen does love horses. Maybe she’ll invite Rafalca, who would likely make for a better guest.

    JL- I feel a little better knowing I’m not the only one who actually knows the horse’s name.

  23. 23.

    Joseph Nobles

    July 23, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    What is a weekend?

  24. 24.

    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @JenJen:

    espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8193142/new-york-yankees-acquire-ichiro-suzuki-seattle-mariners

  25. 25.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @burnspbesq: I’m seriously going to throw up.

  26. 26.

    Joshua Norton

    July 23, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    It’s OK, but it’s no “SpongeBob Square Pants”.

  27. 27.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    July 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Ron Christie is such an asshole!!! God forbid that gun violence does not visit you or own, you douche!

  28. 28.

    MikeJ

    July 23, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    I’m sure somebody must have mentioned it earlier, but Strange is coming back for a guest appearance at Rumproast.

    rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/the_return_of_strangeappar8us/

  29. 29.

    Joshua Norton

    July 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Season 2 gets bogged down in the more soapy elements of the story, but the Christmas episode at the end kind of makes up for all the melodrama you had to go through to get there.

  30. 30.

    martha

    July 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    We were slobbery Americans and visited Highclere (where it is filmed) a few weeks ago when we were on vacation. The house is gorgeous on the outside and surprisingly moderately sized on the inside, compared with other estates. The setting is beautiful. Saw the infamous red bedroom from Season 1…many of you know what I’m referring to, not sure if John is there yet :)

    The main room is really breathtaking. I really really really hoped to run into the Dowager Countess, but no luck. Everyone was disappointed that the “downstairs” parts are filmed on a soundstage because those parts of the house are now a museum. The 7th Earl financed the discovery of King Tuts tomb…

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @JenJen:

    How about we do it together? It’ll be easier to clean up.

    (I’m a Mets fan, and they are going into the toilet, losing 8 of 9 since the All-Star break).

  32. 32.

    The Dangerman

    July 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @JenJen:

    Shit. You’re serious.

    I second the shit.

    Ichiro is in the twilight of his career, but his bat has some pop when he wants; for some reason, he’s been happy going for average instead of HR’s, but with that short fence in right which, I think, the new Yankee stadium has also, well, he could put up some nice numbers.

    Shit.

  33. 33.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @jl:

    Edit: just thought that in that case Romneys will have to sit behind Rafalca?

    So does that mean …? Nah, too easy.

  34. 34.

    RossinDetroit

    July 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Bah. It’s 100 degrees here. I want a tub of ice cream, a fan and a stack of DVDs of anything to point my eyes at.
    Downton sounds interesting but after a while costume historical dramas start to look awkward to me. I dunno why. Maybe the setting, clothes and unfamiliar language get in the way of the affinity that develops for the characters in the best dramas.
    But I have that problem with Spongebob as well.

  35. 35.

    phantomist

    July 23, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Ann Romney or Dowager Countess Of Grantham

    “I forbid it! To have strange men prodding and prying around the house. To say nothing of pocketing the spoons. It’s out of the question.”

    “Don’t be defeatist dear, it’s terribly middle class.”

  36. 36.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    July 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @The Dangerman: Well I guess I will head to Tacoma to watch the AAA, at least it is cheaper to watch them than the AAA team that plays at the Safe. Seahawk training camp starts in a week!

  37. 37.

    thruppence

    July 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Speaking of TV, Comcast has bought out Microsoft’s share of MSNBC. When I now look at the channel lineups offered in my area, MSNBC is not on any lineup (nor Current, for that matter). And yet I’m watching MSNBC on Comcast right now. Anyone have any insight into this?

  38. 38.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @The Dangerman: I like to think Rick Nash’s best years are behind him, too, but this double-gut-punch of two of my favorite athletes going to New York in THE SAME GODDAMNED DAY is just too much for me.

    @burnspbesq: Deal. Let’s drink first to induce further. #OccupyKnobCreek

    @phantomist: Perfect!

  39. 39.

    MikeJ

    July 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    @thruppence: Because they changed the name to NBCNews.com?

  40. 40.

    debbie

    July 23, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @ James E. Powell:

    Yes! That was the Dowager’s best remark among many. This role is the one Maggie Smith was born to play.

  41. 41.

    The Dangerman

    July 23, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Well I guess I will head to Tacoma to watch the AAA…

    During my time in Seattle, I liked going to Rainiers games and wondering if it was humanly possible to hit a HR to dead center there (probably not, unless it’s changed dimensions).

  42. 42.

    rikyrah

    July 23, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Don’t know if this has been commented here, but these numbers from Gallup are fucking ridiculous:

    The number of polls Gallup did during the first 14 quarters of the following Presidents:

    Eisenhower—–4

    Nixon—–4

    Carter—-6

    Reagan—–7

    Bush 41—-6

    Clinton—-6

    Bush 43—-7

    Obama—88

    you read it right.

    FUCKING 88.

    gallup.com/poll/155918/Obama-Job-Approval-Slightly-14th-Quarter.aspx?utm_source=add%2Bthis&utm_…

  43. 43.

    tam

    July 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    I legit love the idea of John Cole squeeing over Downton.

  44. 44.

    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @JenJen:

    If that’s not enough to do the job, I have a bottle of Maker’s Mark here someplace.

  45. 45.

    HyperIon

    July 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Upstairs Downstairs was much superior IMNSHO.

  46. 46.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @MikeJ @thruppence: : They’re still calling it MSNBC in the chyron and in DirecTV’s listings. But I’ve been wondering the same; will MSNBC go with NBC News Network, or what?

  47. 47.

    Face

    July 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    What did Joe Paterno think of downtown abbeys?

  48. 48.

    gogol's wife

    July 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @tam:

    Me too! I would think he’d like Bates too. I can’t say my favorite Dowager Countess line because it’s a spoiler.

    This is a pretty good parody, which has some top British actors in it:

    youtube.com/watch?v=r5dMlXentLw

  49. 49.

    Joshua Norton

    July 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Mrs Crawley: “What should we call each other?”

    Lady Grantham: “Well, we could always start with Mrs Crawley and Lady Grantham.”

    ============================

    “What is a weekend?”

    ===========================

    “Last night! He looked so well. Of course it would happen to a foreigner. No Englishman would dream of dying in someone else’s house.”

    That line still slays me.

  50. 50.

    gogol's wife

    July 23, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @HyperIon:

    I assume you mean the original, and not the fairly mediocre recent version that was on about the same time in USA as Season 1 of Downton.

  51. 51.

    Yutsano

    July 23, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @JenJen: do not even get me started. It’s Pay Fraaud all over again. Spit.

  52. 52.

    Todd

    July 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I’ve gone through all the Sherlock episodes, and am hooked on Foyle’s War. It is set in Sussex in 1940, and there are a pile of murky issues about whether arrests for various crimes impede or advance the war effort.

    The acting is solid and the mood is intense.

  53. 53.

    Raven

    July 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    What’s a week end. . . .?

  54. 54.

    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Shut up and drink!

  55. 55.

    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @Yutsano: I’m telling you, New York hates me today, x2. New York only hates you x1. I WIN. Drink ’em up!

    @tam:

    I legit love the idea of John Cole squeeing over Downton.

    I’m squeeing over the squee. It’s just delicious (despite the forthcoming Season 2 letdown)!

  56. 56.

    Mary

    July 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    I ordered Season 1 and 2 from MPT around Feb or March 2012. I have probably watched about 5 or 6 times straight thru. I am obsessed. I know, I know -I am escaping-but I can only take so much horror and disgust in the real world.

    But there is a lesson-one where the symbiotic relationship between masters and servants has each questioning their existence and the relative freedom therein, as well as the rationale for war.

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    July 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @rikyrah

    If you’ve never watched, it, run, do not walk, to watch the only season of Wonderfalls.

    The actor who portrays Fargo in Eureka has the role of ‘the Mouthbreather’ and plays it to the hilt.

    The series as a whole is a highly enjoyable romp into humorous surrealism and an example of an ensemble cast firing on all cylinders.

  58. 58.

    Raven

    July 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Check Maggie out as the Queen in All the King’s Men, the true story of the Sandringham Company and Gallipoli. Very much in the spirit and times of Downton.

  59. 59.

    martha

    July 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @Todd: Love Foyles War!

  60. 60.

    MikeJ

    July 23, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @rikyrah: What’s ridiculous? That’s one poll every two weeks. I wish they had polled more often from back in Ike’s day onward, but there’s nothing evil about having more info.

    If you’d like to complain about 600 out of every 1000 going to landlines, I’ll agree that’s stupid. Of course when Nixon was in it was 100% landlines.

    Times change and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  61. 61.

    Raven

    July 23, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    We’re obsessed with Doc Martin right now.

  62. 62.

    The Dangerman

    July 23, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Shut up and drink!

    New rotating tag line!

  63. 63.

    Raven

    July 23, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    @Todd: Tried “South Riding”?

  64. 64.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @rikyrah: Well, Gallup’s not polling for their health. Someone is paying handsomely for ::choke:: 88 Obama polls.

  65. 65.

    tam

    July 23, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    @JenJen: I am okay with Season 2 because of THE CHRISTMAS EPISODE!!!!

    But really @Cole: When are you going to start your fan tumblr and what are you going to name it? Downton Tabby must be taken by now.

  66. 66.

    thruppence

    July 23, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    @MikeJ:MSNBC.com is becoming NBCNews.com, but the MSNBC television channel is (so far) supposed to be retaining that name.

  67. 67.

    Danny

    July 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Check out Luther on Netflix.

  68. 68.

    JPL

    July 23, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @Joshua Norton: Maggie Smith should win an emmy for that episode. Her quips had me in stitches.

    Cole, Watch Sherlock, too. Benedict Cumberbatch is amazing in the role of Sherlock.

  69. 69.

    Gravenstone

    July 23, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @JenJen:

    They’re still calling it MSNBC in the chyron and in DirecTV’s listings. But I’ve been wondering the same; will MSNBC go with NBC News Network, or what?

    As I understand it, the cable channel will retain the MSNBC name and brand, while the website, as has been previously noted, will become NBCNews.com and is expected to take on a less sensationalist focus (well, at least as much as any modern new agency fails to sensationalize).

  70. 70.

    Yutsano

    July 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @burnspbesq: There’s a bottle of Laphroaig that may get some love when I get home. Percocet be damned.
    @JenJen: L’CHAIM!!
    @The Dangerman: I call this winning!

  71. 71.

    Punchy

    July 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @JenJen: Just started Itchy-Ro in fantasy this week due to crippling injuries to (both!) Votto and Bautista. This bodes well for his numbers since the Yankees are so…..offensive.

    By the way….anyone know why he goes by Ichiro Suzuki, but has his first name (Ichiro) on his jersey, ‘steada his last like everyone else? kthxbuy

  72. 72.

    jl

    July 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    Thanks. Great parody of those BBC historical soaps.

    The penultimate scene nailed it:

    “Is everyone done with their ‘looks’?”

    Please post the next installment, I want to know how the scratch on the spoon caper (Edit: I meant, scandal) comes out.

  73. 73.

    suzanne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    LOVE the Dowager Countess. LOVE. Maggie Smith was fabulous in Gosford Park, too.

    She and Helen Mirren are totally hot. I hope I look half that good at that age. Hell, I hope I look half that good now.

  74. 74.

    Tehanu

    July 23, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    @HyperIon:

    I never could stand Jean Marsh. If only the great Eileen Atkins had played her part and Jean had stayed offstage, instead of the other way around. And although I love Downton Abbey, the original Forsyte Saga (Eric Porter, Margaret Tyzack, Kenneth More, Nyree Dawn Porter, Susan Hampshire, etc.) has both of ’em beat.

  75. 75.

    Gus

    July 23, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    @burnspbesq: Shit! Don’t they have Raul Ibanez to play lf? Reminds me of this. Probably lowers the average team age.

  76. 76.

    var

    July 23, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    I was totally sucked into this by Netflix. I was loving it and then about 2/3 of the way through season 2, I said out loud “wow, this is a soap opera!” My wife laughed and said “you didn’t know that?”

    Still good TV, though.

  77. 77.

    Cassidy

    July 23, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @JenJen: As a Reds and Bengals fan, shouldn’t you be used to the sports gods not liking you?

  78. 78.

    Yutsano

    July 23, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @JenJen: If you wanna feel better, Google Maxim Lapierre. Forward for the Canucks. Now THAT is a nice exanmple of a Quebecois male!!

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    July 23, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    One word, perfectly innocent comment, and it went to moderation.

    FYWP

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    July 23, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Punchy:

    I think it’s several things. Japanese are a little like Brazilians in that they like one-name stars, e.g., Akebono in sumo. Japanese surnames for commoners are a relatively recent development and Suzuki is something like the second most common in Japan. Their “Smith.”

    Ichiro was a star when recruited to the Mariners and IIRC they got approval from the league to let him play under the name.

  81. 81.

    jl

    July 23, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @tam:

    I want to see the Cole version of a BBC hysterical soap. Featuring Lady Lily and Mlle Rosie of Tunchdown Estates. Goats, generators, happy tenants toiling away in he ramp and ginseng fields. Drama.

    No butlers, so I guess Cole will have to be the local handy man, explaining to Lady Lily that Mlle Rosie ‘tore it sumping fierce, I dunno if I ken fixit.”

    Except, it will be very high class. Lots of ‘looks’ shots, especially of Tunch, the mysterious character, which will be epic.

    Edit: Forgot that if you got the name “tunchdown” in there, you can work in some notable Stillers seasons, for historical context.

  82. 82.

    Jado

    July 23, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    “What is a weekend?”

    youtube.com/watch?v=zhfpBW-nUWk

  83. 83.

    MikeJ

    July 23, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    How long until the sushi stand at Safeco stops selling Ichi-rolls? Do they have sushi stands at Yankee Stadium?

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    July 23, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @trollhattan

    Sumo names are a limited, approved roster, and sort of honorifics bestowed by the stable master. They can be re-used and also retired.

    Regardless, Akebono (daybreak) is more lilting and evocative than is Chad Rowan. :)

  85. 85.

    slag

    July 23, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @rikyrah: I’m with you on both, esp Sherlock.

    Also, I just watched EJ Dionne on TDS, and DougJ’s going to strike me down for this, but I think he acquitted himself fairly well on that show. Esp in the web section of the interview. JS was trying really hard to get him to be a mealy mouthed liberal, and he wasn’t having it. Personally, I was pleasantly shocked.

  86. 86.

    PurpleGirl

    July 23, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    I would love it if the reshowed The Forsyte Saga. At one time I had the whole book series.

    Does anyone remember another multigenerational family tale — Flambards? I load the book it came from to my sister and she threw it out when she finished reading it.

  87. 87.

    master c

    July 23, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Yes!! was looking around for people at work who had seen it…..binged on season 1 this weekend…..Loved it!

  88. 88.

    S. cerevisiae

    July 23, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Sobering talk from Bill McKibben:

    …at today’s market value, those 2,795 gigatons of carbon emissions are worth about $27 trillion. Which is to say, if you paid attention to the scientists and kept 80 percent of it underground, you’d be writing off $20 trillion in assets. The numbers aren’t exact, of course, but that carbon bubble makes the housing bubble look small by comparison. It won’t necessarily burst – we might well burn all that carbon, in which case investors will do fine. But if we do, the planet will crater. You can have a healthy fossil-fuel balance sheet, or a relatively healthy planet – but now that we know the numbers, it looks like you can’t have both. Do the math: 2,795 is five times 565. That’s how the story ends.

    from: rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719?page=3

  89. 89.

    gogol's wife

    July 23, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    @jl:

    Part Two is here:

    youtube.com/watch?v=p3YYo_5rxFE

    And I agree with those who love “Foyle’s War” (Michael Kitchen!) and “Sherlock” (Benedict Cumberbatch!)

  90. 90.

    seaboogie

    July 23, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    As a high school student in Toronto we always studied whatever Shakespeare plays were appearing that season in nearby Stratford and then would have a field trip to see them. Got to see Maggie Smith play Rosalind in As You Like It, and she was as awesome as you would imagine and inspired a love of theatre at a pretty tender age.

  91. 91.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @Tehanu: Yup yup yup to Forsyte Saga. Pretty much anything with Susan Hampshire is worth a look, but FS is the matrix for period drama.

  92. 92.

    JPL

    July 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @PurpleGirl: Recently I was trying to remember the name of the series, thank you.
    Flambards is available on DVD through Amazon and I just added it my wish list.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @seaboogie: Oh, I saw that too. And Brian Bedford was the Melancholy Jaques in that same production. Just wonderful.

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    MaryRC

    July 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    @JenJen: The DC would sweep the floor with Ann Romney!

    [some git]: I’ll be leaving in the morning, Lady Violet. I doubt we’ll meet again.

    The DC: Do you promise?

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    JenJen

    July 23, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Cassidy: Are you confusing Cincinnati with Cleveland or something? Really, it’s not that bad. You were serious when you said you don’t follow baseball anymore, weren’t you?

    @Yutsano: Purrrrr. Loved him when he was a Hab, too.

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    PurpleGirl

    July 23, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @seaboogie: There is a repetorie theatre in Stratford, CT. Many years ago the junior high school I attended had that same kind of project. All the English classes read the same Shakespeare play and then we all went to the theatre in Stratford to see it. I didn’t see anyone famous but I saw Julius Ceasar, King Lear, and Taming of the Shrew. It was great because the theater had been built has a copy of The Globe. And the grounds had picnic tables. A very good day trip.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @seaboogie: Also saw Megan Followes (aka Anne of Green Gables) as Juliet, but I think that may have bee a few seasons later.

    Best Stratford experience? There are two. One was seeing (1976 or so?) The Tempest in matinee and The Importance of Being Earnest in the evening, with essentially identical casts. Nicholas Pennell was Ariel and Algy. Richard Monette was Caliban and Jack. Martha Henry was Miranda and Gwendolyn. And the great William Hutt was Prospero and Lady Bracknell. LOL, I will never forget his intonation of “a handbag” as long as I live!

    The other great experience was seeing (1992?) an adaptation of Robertson Davies’ “World of Wonders,” again starring Nicky Pennell but, world of wonders, with Robertson Davies himself in the audience, one row in front of me and three seats over. He died not too long thereafter, and I was always thrilled to have been so close to one of my favourite authors ever.

    But all that said, I have never had a bad experience at Stratford. With the possible exception of Measure for Measure. I don’t like that play.

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    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    The Die Fucking Yankee Scum play in seattle tonight. Will be intersting to see the reception that Ichiro gets.

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    Steeplejack

    July 23, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Yeah, I know. I am unutterably depressed. I love Ichiro and always felt sad that his prospects of going to the World Series were almost nil. Now I am conflicted, to say the least. I would love for him to cap his career with a World Series ring, but with the FTFY?! No! This is tearing me apart already.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @tam:

    Downton Tabby

    I groaned.

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    Raven

    July 23, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    @var: Yup, when none of them knew you couldn’t have kids when you were paralyzed that was it for me. As the World Turns.

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    lamh35

    July 23, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Wait, who remembers this from Sesame Street!!!!! I never realized how long this damn thing was…lol! “1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12..”

    youtube.com/watch?v=bL6CvI8qK40

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    MikeJ

    July 23, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    @burnspbesq: I’m watching the Sox on ESPN, but planning on switching to Root in a few. He’s batting eighth.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    @suzanne: My fantasy is a BBC miniseries starring Maggie Smith, Helen Mirren, and Judi Dench. And Glenda Jackson if she’s still acting.

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    Steeplejack

    July 23, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @JenJen:

    Amen, sister.

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    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    July 23, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    hey fellas! lauren bacall!

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    Steeplejack

    July 23, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    @lamh35:

    My favorite counting video.

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    dogwood

    July 23, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I’m looking for a good streaming series to watch on Netflix or Amazon. I loved Downton, Doc Martin, Foyle, MI5, Luther, Sherlock etc. I left the country for almost 6 weeks in April and May and didn’t watch or read a lick of news during that period. It was really good for me. When I came home instead of getting back into the election drama, I watched Doc Martin and Friday Night Lights and stayed very calm and happy. I’m really not an overly-hysterical type, but the last two presidential elections have proved that I can be pretty obsessive about politics. I’ve decided to try and just ignore the election until it’s over and am looking for distraction. Unfortunately, I don’t care for zombies or the supernatural, so that eliminates a lot of stuff. I am willing to be convinced, however.

  109. 109.

    NotMax

    July 23, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Add in Penelope Keith, Prunella Scales and Patricia Routledge, and I’m in for the long haul.

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    jl

    July 23, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    How long do we have to wait for the BBC historical soaps on Benny Hill and Monty Python? Too soon?

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    Steeplejack

    July 23, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @Todd:

    It gets even better as it goes through the war to VE-Day.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    @NotMax: Absolutely. And, as I mentioned earlier, Susan Hampshire. Francesca Annis, also too

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    Joel

    July 23, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    @burnspbesq: If its any consolation, Ichiro sucks.

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    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Mets bullpen has cwushed my widdle spiwit yet again. Six in the tenth. 1-9 since the break.

    Le sigh.

  115. 115.

    Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)

    July 23, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    I’ve never she show, but my wife is kind of hooked. She doesn’t watch it here, but her sister tapes or tivos or whatevver the hell it is a bunch of them, and then they’ll spend a whole afternoon every few months watching a slew of them. I showed them this, and they both laughed.

  116. 116.

    Steeplejack

    July 23, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    @dogwood:

    Have you seen Firefly? It is science fiction, which might be uncomfortably close to your taboo areas.

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 23, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: @NotMax: Oh crumbs, and how could I forget Geraldine McEwen? Or Emma Thompson? Or Emma’s mother, Phyllida Law?

    Really, the Brits are just amazing.

  118. 118.

    lamh35

    July 23, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Wow, so Romney has not even left American soil yet and he’s already pissed off a foreign dignitary. Wow, I strongly suspect that Romney is so gonna do something stupid overseas. It’s just like with NAACP speech, everyone was like there is no way Romney will do something stupid at NAACP and of course he did, even if it was something he wanted to do, it was still stupid.

    So what’s anyone’s guess on when/what country R-Money will misstep in due to either his own arrogance or his usual tone-deafnessness?

    Is That Your Final Answer, Mr. Romney?

    It’s looking more and more improbable that Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr really confided to Mitt Romney that he was pining for Mitt to get into the White House and use his business know-how to set America back on the straight and narrow…

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    Joel

    July 23, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    By the way, the Lackey-Lester-Beckett-Valentine Sox are as unlikable as anything since the Hobson era.

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    burnspbesq

    July 23, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    Je vais vomir.

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    NotMax

    July 23, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    @dogwood

    No idea if any of these are offered on the streaming services, and will keep it to a short selection of recommendations.

    The above-mentioned Wonderfalls (1 season only)
    Wild Boys (Australian TV western-genre series, 1 season only)

    Classsics:

    I, Claudius
    Brideshead Revisited

    Fluff (but well-crafted fluff):

    Little Mosque on the Prairie (Canadian TV series, multiple seasons)

    And shall mention it even though it is of the supernatural genre, as the first 2 seasons were such finely honed TV:

    Being Human (the British series, NOT the American one)

  122. 122.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 23, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    @JenJen:

    I, for one, would like to pit the Dowager Countess against Ann Romney.

    Barbara Bush

  123. 123.

    Anne Laurie

    July 23, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    Does anyone remember another multigenerational family tale—Flambards?

    Yes I do — I still have the Penguin paperback collection I bought in Toronto in the early 1980s — and now it’s an Oxford Modern Children’s Classic!

    Wonder if the TV miniseries is available through Netflix…

    Weirder still: “The Flambards Experience” is a theme park!

  124. 124.

    Anne Laurie

    July 23, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @dogwood: KINGDOM. Stephen Fry.

    THE UNUSUALS was a (tragically short-lived) cop drama, relying far less on procedure (much less crime) than the human condition. Most of one episode, for example, concerned a detective’s trying to understand Vonnegut’s CAT’S CRADLE as it applied to a “dead” hospice patient gone walkabout.

    NEW TRICKS is also, theoretically, a cop show, but it’s really four excellent British actors doing 45-minute puzzles. There are social issues, but no “politics” in the idiot horse-race sense you’re avoiding.

  125. 125.

    Allen

    July 23, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    I liked Season 1 of Downton, Season 2 not so much, anxiously waiting for Season 3. I like Foyle’s War, Doc Martin and Outnumbered. Oh, and the new Sherlock. If it wasn’t public TV here in Oregon my TV watching would drop to negative zero.

  126. 126.

    Paddy

    July 23, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    See the First Photo of Downton Abbey’s New Season

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    Joseph Nobles

    July 23, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    @rikyrah: More jobs Obama has created.

  128. 128.

    freelancer

    July 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    @dogwood:

    I’m looking for a good streaming series to watch on Netflix or Amazon. I loved Downton, Doc Martin, Foyle, MI5, Luther, Sherlock etc. I left the country for almost 6 weeks in April and May and didn’t watch or read a lick of news during that period. It was really good for me. When I came home instead of getting back into the election drama, I watched Doc Martin and Friday Night Lights and stayed very calm and happy. I’m really not an overly-hysterical type, but the last two presidential elections have proved that I can be pretty obsessive about politics. I’ve decided to try and just ignore the election until it’s over and am looking for distraction. Unfortunately, I don’t care for zombies or the supernatural, so that eliminates a lot of stuff. I am willing to be convinced, however.

    USA show Psych is brilliant and too funny. I just started White Collar and it’s entertaining too.

  129. 129.

    PurpleGirl

    July 23, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Thank you for the links.

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    TooManyJens

    July 23, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    @dogwood: Leverage! Which is both fabulously entertaining and created by the guy who brought you the Crazification Factor (well, whose friend Tyrone brought you the Crazification Factor, but it was John Rogers’ blog).

  131. 131.

    Ruthless

    July 24, 2012 at 12:05 am

    I’ve been thoroughly sucked into Season 1 of Downton Abbey. I just love the Dowager Countess.

    Did we really need more evidence that John Cole is an old woman? I think we did not.

    You need to start a fight club or something.

  132. 132.

    master c

    July 24, 2012 at 12:14 am

    @Ruthless: part of the charm.

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    Beauzeaux

    July 24, 2012 at 12:25 am

    @Todd: Michael Kitchen was born to play Foyle. And he’s brilliant for all five seasons. (Of course, British TV series can range from 3 episodes to 13.)

  134. 134.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    July 24, 2012 at 1:08 am

    My girlfriend got me hooked on Downton. I’ve only seen season 2 and look forward to checking out the first.

    I tried Sherlock, but find the main character insufferable. Smug, arrogant, assholish…I know he’s supposed to be the awkward-genius type, but I find nothing even remotely likable about him which makes it pretty tough to watch. I seem to be in the minority on that, but just wanted to give a heads-up, in case you It’s a bummer, because it looks like an otherwise, really well-done show.

    Boardwalk Empire season 2 is currently blowing me away while I wait for the next season of Game of Thrones.

  135. 135.

    seaboogie

    July 24, 2012 at 1:22 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think I was about 16, and developed a huge crush on Jack Weatherall, and saw him in a little play in T.O. in a rough space, my girlfriend and I felt so “worldly” going to see it…googled him, and he hasn’t aged as well as Maggie Smith…and Brian Bedford…mercy!

  136. 136.

    Gretchen

    July 24, 2012 at 1:27 am

    @seaboogie: Thanks for reminding me. When I was a high school student in Detroit they’d take us on a bus trip to Stratford, Ontario to see a play we’d read. That was before a passport was needed, and we could cross the border at will. For some reason we thought the bars in Windsor were more entertaining than those in Detroit.

  137. 137.

    seaboogie

    July 24, 2012 at 1:42 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: What a distinctly, quirky and unusual place Stratford, Ontario is…as you drive into town you see the usual Lions Club, Kiwanis, et al logos, and then there is a sign proclaiming it the home of the “Ontario Pork Producers and the Stratford Shakespeare Festival” (both given equal measure) – my parents live quite near and my best friend lives there…a few years back we had a girls’ weekend and saw the same married couple of actors appear in The Three Penny Opera one day and The Scarlet Pimpernel the next. Kid about 12 was sitting next to us for the Scarlet Pimpernel, and thought that it totally rawked. At the time I thought that it was kind of like Batman in its day (except for the context today, which is something that cannot be truly named)

  138. 138.

    Amanda

    July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Someone up thread commented on The Forsyte Saga — agreed it is excellent — it’s also available @ Netflix streaming right now

    Maggie Smith is excellent, love the Dowager Countess. MS with Shirley McL is going to be a sight. Season 2 did get a little plodding/silly in parts, but there were also some real high points throughout, I thought. And the finale — what’s not to love? Can’t wait for Season 3!

    Recommendations for shows to watch @ Netfliz streaming or on disc:

    * Life
    * Sherlock
    * Parenthood
    * Firefly
    * Mad Men
    * State of Play (the British miniseries)
    * Page Eight, Masterpiece Theater Contemporary

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    HyperIon

    July 24, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @gogol’s wife: dead thread i bet. but yes, the original. i refuse to even acknowledge those pathetic pretenders to the series title.

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