Looks like it’s about time for one of these.
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Looks like it’s about time for one of these.
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Violet
Can we please re-promote the Tony Soprano Explains Bain Capital video? Jennifer was kind enough to link it for me in the previous thread. I’d forgotten about it. It explains the “bust out” concept very well, which is what Bain and other vulture capital companies do, of course.
JGabriel
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TPM:
Personally, I think it’s more like a millipede of lies.
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Comrade Jake
Last Breaking Bad for 2012 this evening. I wish the show didn’t have to end, but that’s the nature of the beast.
Old Dan and Little Ann
I made my first youtube video last night. It’s my hound dog Yeller listening to wolves for about a minute before he decides to chime in and howl along.
lamh35
Romney’s bounce from convention looks short-lived: Reuters/Ipsos poll
Any takers on the “why the bump was shortlived”? My money’s on 3 things combined: 1)Ann/Mitt’s speeches were both “meh” and Paul Ryan’s was widely panned; 2)there is just too many channels now-adays and if u don’t wanna watch something you dont’ have to; 3)CLINT EASTWOOD!
SiubhanDuinne
@Violet:
Agree. I hadn’t seen it before (not to mention that I may be the only person in North America who has never seen Goodfellas nor watched a single minute from The Sopranos) but there was no doubt as to how vulture capitalism operates after seeing that YouTube video. I’m sharing it with my few remaining conservative friends.
BGinCHI
Waiting for someone to deconstruct Paul Ryan’s oft-repeated:
So if you are unemployed or otherwise not benefiting from the economy and our capitalist enterprise, it’s because our “leaders” have failed you? I assume he means government? But not business leaders? Or the folks with the money and power?
So, when you succeed it’s all your own (We Built It!). But when you are “left out or passed by” (note the passive voice) it’s someone else’s fault, namely the government?
The implied message is that government can help people.
This sounds like it’s straight off a Soviet-era propaganda poster.
trollhattan
Zut alors, Henri, les existential kitteh, is now les award-winner kitteh.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019049418_catvideo02m.html
arguingwithsignposts
@BGinCHI: Don’t stare at it too long, man. You’ll go stupid.
Violet
@lamh35: I’m going to be interested to see what the ratings are for the Democratic convention–if they are similar to the GOP convention or what. Also if the Dems get a bounce. I wonder if we’re at the tipping point where conventions are just mostly irrelevant and people barely pay attention, so not much in terms of bounce? Or if it’s just that Mitt and the GOP are so dull and awful?
Brachiator
@Comrade Jake:
Ah, but it is also the first Doctor Who of the season. Kind of a television circle of life.
“Asylum of the Daleks” was kickass. Glad I was able to avoid major spoilers. On the other side, the creator of Breaking Bad is promising some strong stuff for next time. Should be big fun.
danah gaz
@Comrade Jake: This is a “mid-season break”. It’s scheduled to run through season 6 (at least that’s what the story is prepped for). So roughly, after this evening there are still 24 more episodes scheduled, based on my back of the napkin calculations.
At least if it ends where it’s supposed to, their should be at least a bit of closure. That won’t stop me from wanting more, but nothing lasts forever. =)
WereBear
This weekend is the five year anniversary of my Way of Cats blog.
I am celebrating with The Story of Reverend Jim.
Cute pics and a heartwarming story. If you have any Cat Appreciators in your circle, please share!
General Stuck
My tank is empty for political enthusiasms enthusiasms. Nothing but GOP circus clowns taxes the spirit, but now it’s on to Charlotte and a better circus I can understand.
SiubhanDuinne
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
That was hilarious! And Yeller looks like a sweetie.
khead
“We did build this” sign at Sioux City, IA airport.
trollhattan
@Comrade Jake:
They’re really ramping up Walter’s complete embrace of the Dark Side. The story arc can only be sustained for just so much longer.
My remaining question: who finally offs Walter? There are four obvious choices, one less obvious choice, and what will actually happen (BB is nothing if not the master of the unexpected).
danah gaz
@trollhattan: Awesome.
trollhattan
@lamh35:
“Terrorist fist bump” was longer-lived. I simply can’t believe there’s much of an undecided cohort this year. The election largely revolves around GOTV efforts.
Old Dan and Little Ann
@SiubhanDuinne: Much thanks. Yeller is sweet but he’s also a nut job. I played wolves howling for kicks last week and he went nuts. I figured I’d may as well document it. Cheers.
lamh35
TRENDING: Obama: No offense taken at Eastwood speech
Posted by CNN’s Kevin Liptak
red dog
@Old Dan and Little Ann: I had a dog that loved to howl with the fire trucks and get the whole neighborhood going. I wonder how he would have reacted to wolves doing this? He paid no attention to coyotes.
Violet
I wish the Democrats would riff on the “I built it” thing the Republicans are going on about and say, “Sure, you built it and Mitt Romney wants to buy it and destroy it and leave you bankrupt” or something.
Yutsano
@lamh35:
Ouch. He’s real good at the subtle stabbing of Willard isn’t he?
Joel
@lamh35: Obama had about 4% net *increase* in chance of winning (via 538) from before and after the RNC.
Brachiator
@Violet:
Probably a bit of both. I don’t think that the average citizen cares that much about either convention, and this time around, there are no surprises. Romney announced Ryan as VP pick before the convention, and the Democrats are the incumbent party, so nothing new here.
The tv coverage is as relentlessly stale as NBC’s Olympic Games coverage. Worse, the media (with the notable exception of Chris Matthews) is trying hard to pretend that GOP lies are not really lies.
I am mildly curious as to how well the GOP was able to control its message and image in the new social media environment. Although it is not statistically reliable, I wonder what the reaction to the GOP convention has been on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
The only interesting news story coming out of the GOP convention is that Republicans have decided to back Romney, no matter what. They don’t care that he is Mormon, don’t care that he is bland, don’t care that he lies. But they are not going to stay home and not vote, and no one, not even libertarians, are going to split into a third party.
This puts the burden on the Democrats to mobilize voters and to prevent independent voters from slipping away.
mamayaga
Re the lack of a bounce, Booman thinks it was the internet. Of course, that’s pretty much the same as saying we have so many more channels now.
trollhattan
@Yutsano:
Always interesting to compare/contrast the two Harvard grads. Obama reminds me of the scary smart students who got good grades from their brains (while maintaining social lives outside class) and Willard reminds me of students who would study 24/7 memorizing lists from the textbooks specifically to pass their tests.
No two “As” are alike.
Violet
@Brachiator: Or maybe the Dems have been saving the big stuff in the tax returns until after the convention when it would most put the Republicans in a pickle. I’m not surprised to see the GOP support Mitt–they are the part of “fall in line” after all. I am interested to see how long it lasts.
I hope the tax returns stuff that came out earlier was just the warm up. I’ll be surprised if it isn’t.
Ben Franklin
@Brachiator:
This puts the burden on the Democrats to mobilize voters and to prevent independent voters from slipping away.
It’s ours to lose
Maude
@Yutsano:
None better.
Violet
@Maude: Did you see the book I recommended for you last night in the thread where we were talking about the Facebook building? You might find it interesting.
gene108
I don’t believe we need another open thread.
We need the FP’ers to get cracking and bring us the news nuggets of the day we so desperately crave to discuss.
Ben Franklin
@mamayaga:
I think Booman is wrong on that. Nothing incites like the Tubes
There just wasn’t any gotcha catch phrases, easily sound-bitten which could eclipse ..
Eastwooding.
Doggie D
She had not been blessed by Nature, but had found a mate. He was rotund, grey haired, and stupid. Judging by the way he interacted with the 30-something at the rental car counter, he had spent most of his life around children, very likely as a male schoolteacher.
The rental car associate explained the different cars available. As I waited, these idiots debated for several minutes which car they wanted to rent. The rental car associate pleasantly suggested that the couple go look at the cars and make a decision. The couple waddled off to the parking lot. The rental car associate set me up with a Chevy Malibu, a pretty nice car.
The fat couple returned. They selected the Prius.
Linda Featheringill
@trollhattan:
Henri, the cat with ennui. Hooray!
Ben Franklin
@gene108:
Agreed. Now is not the time for objective thinking.
kideni
“The Amazing Feats of Paul Ryan” Facebook page started up yesterday and is already chock full of goodness (on the page and in the sidebar posts-by-others).
One of my favorites:
“Ryan explained the 71-minute discrepancy in his marathon time: he actually stopped to give CPR to an elderly man and a little further along the course he had to stop AGAIN to help a woman deliver her baby. He of course scolded the new mom afterward because she had been selfish and not married her rapist, which is why she didn’t have anyone to help with her delivery. He also, as a charitable gesture, told her to get a job.”
Also:
“Paul Ryan’s ‘conversion’ of 4h 01′ to “less than 3 hours, 2 fifty-something” is a discount of 1,6% per year. He calculates all rounding errors in his head instantly and disregards anything less than the inflation rate as non-significant.”
And shorter:
“The Curiosity rover reached Mars in just under 9 months. Paul Ryan did it in 6.”
RedKitten
Subtle. I like it.
Violet
@Ben Franklin: Yeah, the only thing anyone will remember about the GOP convention is Eastwood. Maybe Paul Ryan’s LyinRyan speech, but that’s about it.
It’s not good for the GOP that the most memorable thing to happen at the GOP spawned a trend where people posted pictures of empty chairs. Not good at all.
Violet
@kideni: Ha! Excellent. I was hoping it would catch on. Now if only the mountain climbing community in Colorado will have a look at the 40 fourteeners claim…
Ben Franklin
@RedKitten:
”One thing about being a yankee
presidentor running for baseballpresident– if you’re easily offended, you should probably choose another profession,” Jackie RobinsonObamatoldUSA Today.the New York Posttrollhattan
@kideni:
Lots of Win! Ryan’s orbit is so big he’s eclipsed Chuck Norris.
Today, Paul Ryan got up and while exercising, counted to infinity. Twice.
Maude
@Violet:
I just went back to thread thread and wrote down the title. Thanks so much. I’ve heard of it. I may order it from Barnes & Noble and read it on Nook PC.
I am again reading the Big Short by Michael Lewis. Found a paperback of it for a quarter. I also have Liar’s Poker by him. Both books are enjoyable.
SiubhanDuinne
@Brachiator:
They prefer bland to blah.
hoppipolla
@Ben Franklin: Jackie Robinson was a Dodger.
Ben Franklin
@Ben Franklin:
I am verklempt. Brooklyn Dodgers, not Yankees.
Fer cripes sake…
quannlace
Because it involved Mitt. Simple
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But seriously. If it hadn’t been Romney, who would it have been? Who else did they have? Forget the joke picks (Perry, Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich). Uhhhh, Huntsman, Pawletney? Guiliani? (Ha ha ha ha)
Maybe Christie could have taken a bullet for the party?
Pavonis
So today’s tracking polls, as of 1PM Eastern, show Gallup with O+1, Reuters with O+1, and good ol’ Rassy with R+4. One of these is not like the others.
Actually, Rasmussen just upped his Republican Party weighting by 3 points going from August to September. So most of Rasmussen “convention bounce” is an artifact of his weighting methodology.
And a National Journal article seems to imply that Obama’s internal polling shows him ahead nationally and in all key swing states.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/the-confidence-game-20120822?page=1
Yet I still can’t relax about this election…
Violet
I think we’re going to have to follow Twitter if we want the Fear and Loathing in West Virginia tour updates:
And this photo: http://instagram.com/p/PFI7kUg7qx/
lamh35
Is/could this be a big deal or not?
Romney’s Former Company Under Investigation For Tax Evasion
SiubhanDuinne
@quannlace:
I’m not going to say it. It would be size-ist.
I’m not going to say it.
I’m not going to say it.
I’m not. I’m just NOT!!
It would be size-ist. And wrong.
Haydnseek
@trollhattan: When I was in college in the 70’s, guys like Romney were always suspected of being undercover narcs.
Pavonis
@lamh35: It seems like no one really knows yet how connected Romney was to the tax evasion. Is this the reason why he doesn’t want to release the returns?
trollhattan
@Violet:
Oh boy. Bumpy ride–we haz it.
Hippie Subaru, bedecked in commie bumper stickers and hauling a multiracial group of passengers, cruises rural West Virginia. What could possibly go wrong?
Corner Stone
@Violet:
I’m waiting for the pictures of empty suits to start showing up. Something like an empty suit standing by a podium and an empty chair off to the side.
arguingwithsignposts
@Haydnseek:
I’m pretty sure Romney would have been a narc. A former professor of mine attended BYU for a year, and said that there was a very police state atmosphere with regards to shit like drinking coffee or caffeinated soda off-campus, not to mention the obvious alcohol stuff. Lots of rats.
Corner Stone
@Violet: Cole sure is attached to his rugby shirts isn’t he?
hoppipolla
@Ben Franklin: Yanks were actually among the most racist MLB teams. Elston Howard didn’t become the first African-American player until 1955 (Branch Rickey brought Robinson up to the Dodgers in ’47).
of course, the Yankees don’t compare to my Boston Red Sox (why can’t I quit you?) who brought up the immortal Pumpsie Green in ’59.
also too, per Bloomberg, the New York state AG is investigating Bain and other PE firms for tax naughtiness.
Corner Stone
@lamh35: Politics of Personal Destruction!
The Criminalization of Politics!
Arglebargle!
hoppipolla
@hoppipolla: oops. the always sharp-eyed lamh beat me to it. loved your nephew’s Finnish hoops video, btw.
khead
@trollhattan:
I was gonna suggest JC get off the turnpike in Beckley and take “the scenic route”.
Hijinks and hilarity would ensue I’m sure.
Anya
@Violet: I am kinda worried about an Angry Black Lady and a Cranky White Guy on the loose in the south. Someone should put a Paypal for bail money, just in case.
Cacti
I’d like to see a DNC version of “He Built This” for Mitt Romney.
A photo montage of Mitt’s mansions juxtaposed against the empty factories, shuttered by Bain.
Hill Dweller
I love Goodbye, Mr. Chips.
Why was Drew Barrymore chosen to co-host “The Essentials” on TCM? She is awful.
Pavonis
@arguingwithsignposts: One of my high school classmates attended BYU in the early 2000s. It’s still much the same, i.e., very strict. For example, men can only visit the women’s dorm for a maximum of two hours and must be chaperoned at all times. And visa-versa.
PurpleGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I’ve never seen Goodfellas or The Sopranos. I don’t like any movie or TV show which is about the mafia and Italian mobsters.
But I had to follow the changes to corporations when I worked in fund-raising to keep current as to what the corporate contributions of companies were and to what charities. (You should know what happened that Nabisco ultimately became part of Kraft after KKR & Co. L.P. (formerly known as Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.) got through with some of their “investment” schemes.)
Louise
@Old Dan and Little Ann: The laughing in the background is the best part. Good doggie!,
Brachiator
@Violet:
The Democrats don’t know anything about Mitten’s tax returns. And the major thing is that Romney has, for now, got away with returning to secrecy and non disclosure. Unlike previous candidates, and the example of his own father, Romney has not been punished by either the press or Republican voters for failing to reveal his tax returns or the identity of his big money bundlers. This is very bad for democracy. I am amazed that Romney has pulled this off, at least for now.
It only has to last until the first week of November. I don’t see much that might erode this support.
And as far as conventional wisdom goes, Romney succeeded without the supposedly guaranteed and traditional pivot to the center.
I continue to be amazed that Romney has made it this far. The mood of the electorate, and the acceptance of lies and emptiness among those on the right, is very puzzling.
Cacti
@hoppipolla:
Tom Yawkey passed on a chance to sign an 18 year old Willie Mays in 1949, due to his lack of pale skin.
Imagine a lineup with Ted Williams and Willie Mays.
sigh
trollhattan
@Haydnseek:
Half the dorm RAs were Willards when I was in college. Had a lot of fun tormenting the Willards, I did.
lamh35
Bhahaha
POLITICO (@politico)
9/2/12 12:09 PM
Via @DylanByers,The most popular GOP convention tweet was from Obama politi.co/N746SG
Sent from my iPhone
SiubhanDuinne
@PurpleGirl:
Wasn’t it “RJR Nabisco” for a while? RJR as in “R. J. Reynolds,” as in tobacco?
quannlace
She always sounds like someone doing a impersonation of her.
Maude
@lamh35:
It is a big deal. I’m following this story.
PurpleGirl
@trollhattan: Thanks for the link. Good article.
hoppipolla
@Cacti: i try not to, actually. my history as a Red Sox fan, dating from 1967, the year of Yaz, the Impossible Dream pennant, and the 7-game WS loss to Bob Gibson and the Cardinals, is already overstuffed with agonizing what-ifs. Bucky fvckin’ Dent.
arguingwithsignposts
@Brachiator:
Romney hasn’t succeeded at anything yet. The general election is just now underway.
Pavonis
@Brachiator:
Economic hard times tend to increase racial and class anxieties. And when you have multi-billionaires willing and able to pour fuel on the fire and exploit the situation, then yes, you can get a surge of hard-right sentiment.
PurpleGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, and both were “clients” of KKR. Nabisco was ladened with debt from being acquired by Reynolds with loans. After a few years Reynolds spun off Nabisco and Nabisco got to keep the debt from the original Reynolds purchase. Nabisco had to close plants and fire workers to pay the debt and then Kraft bought Nabisco. (A trustee of the non-profit I worked for was an executive of Nabisco.)
Tripod
@Pavonis:
The storm flag is up. If the GOP-Romney choose to ignore it..well, it’s gonna suck to be them.
Davis X. Machina
@Pavonis:
There’s a lot of racism, and stupidity, and cupidity in the world.
Take the fundamental depravity of mankind and the points. It doesn’t always win, but it always covers the spread.
dance around in your bones
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
Gawd, that is hysterical – look at his ears twitching and the contemplative look on his face…..should I or should I not respond to the Call of The Wild?
My dog used to howl at sirens when we were driving around in NYC – yeah, THAT was fun.
Villago Delenda Est
@lamh35:
He’s talking to you, ferretface Rmoney.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Violet: Someone should figure out how to feed those into whatever the current thread is.
arguingwithsignposts
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): Or someone could put up a Twitter widget in the sidebar.
danah gaz
@Doggie D: Why are you stalking people at rental car agencies?
Why are you then submitting an unprompted and mean-spirited diatribe about it here?
Don’t you have any hobbies?
I know this is an open thread, but you still managed to go off-topic. I’m not sure if you should receive a golf-clap or a thorough beating for that, but I suppose in your little world it counts as some sort of accomplishment.
PurpleGirl
@Old Dan and Little Ann: Great doggie. I love his face as he’s deciding to join the pack or not.
arguingwithsignposts
@danah gaz: is that BOB?
danah gaz
@arguingwithsignposts: I’m beginning to think so. He’s stepped up the rodent copulating angle in his political posts, but otherwise, it does seem like him.
Villago Delenda Est
@arguingwithsignposts:
Yes, this tool is suspected of being a sockpuppet for BOB.
I note that the latest sockpuppet of UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH! is missing again as well, as the Ryan fail marathon clocks in another sub three hour performance.
dance around in your bones
@Violet:
Oh frack, “Driving Miss Crazy” made me snort all over my laptop.
My family thinks I am insane, chortling away in my room all by myself.
hoppipolla
@arguingwithsignposts: its comment does display all the warmth, empathy, and self-awareness that made BOB such a popular figure hereabouts.
SiubhanDuinne
@PurpleGirl:
How very complicated. I am beginning to recall that I once tried to read Barbarians at the Gate but found the whole thing way too confusing. Maybe I should give it another try.
Violet
@arguingwithsignposts: Agreed. The election is just getting started in most people’s minds. The tax returns stuff of the summer was the Dems defining Romney. They’ve done a good job of that and the tax returns stuff will come up again. And again.
Maude
@PurpleGirl:
Have you read Barbarians at the Gate by James Stewart? It was a really good read.
kay
@Villago Delenda Est:
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Unintentionally hilarious because it’s just classic Obama understatement and personal discipline. This is the calm, measured, completely practical person professional media have insisted for years (ALL polling to the contrary) is elite and professorial and abstract and out of touch. Do they ever actually LISTEN to what he says, or are they busy composing the next brilliant question in their head?
He’s going to be in Toledo on labor day at a UAW event at a high school. Good choice of city for Labor Day, good choice of venue and a rowdy crowd, guaranteed. I hope he rips Kasich a new one for that disgusting convention speech where Kasich took credit for an economic recovery plan he opposed.
Maude
@SiubhanDuinne:
I read it in small doses. You would probably like it now. We’ve seen so much of this type of thing, so it’s now familiar.
hoppipolla
@Maude: Barbs is by Brian Burrough and John Helyar. it’s easy to lose the narrative thread amid all the detail. James Stewart wrote the not-bad Den of Thieves, about Boesky, Levine, and other inside traders. Stewart went on to defend the oh-so-noble Ken Starr. dick.
arguingwithsignposts
@kay:
This is a problem for a lot of folks, not just the media. If I hear one more person say “Why hasn’t Obama being talking about (X) for the last three years?” when a casual perusal of speech transcripts or WH weekly addresses or even press briefings would show that he has been talking about (X), I will scream.
rikyrah
@Anya:
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Villago Delenda Est
@arguingwithsignposts:
On the contrary, he’s succeeded at subduing the mutinous crew of the SS GOP for now and had his little coronation, which, unfortunately for him, was upstaged by Clint Eastwood.
Who may or may not have done that deliberately as ratfucking Rmoney in spectacular fashion.
Now, as to whether or not he’s ever going to be able to shake the etch-a-sketch and tack to the center, the magic 8 ball is giving us a “signs point to no” given the themes he’s pushing. He’s not talking about the economy, he’s sending racial dogwhistles out. In part to keep the crew under control. They need their red meat, particularly with him, the non-Christian, you’d never want to have a beer with him even if he was permitted to cultist heading the ticket. Ryan was the veep choice in part to feed the rabid base.
Maude
@hoppipolla:
How did I get that wrong? It has a red cover in the hardback right?
Sorry. I have a memory like a sieve. I don’t pay attention.
THank you.
Villago Delenda Est
@kay:
What he actually says has nothing to do with the narrative that they have been ordered by their corporate masters to dispense.
So, naturally, a reality gap will develop.
Maude
@arguingwithsignposts:
People don’t care what he said. It’s about getting all emo, IMHO.
lamh35
President Obama Makes Video Appearance at Jay-Z Concert
Corner Stone
@SiubhanDuinne: You should just watch the movie. Really a top cast for the times.
Barbs
PurpleGirl
@Maude: No, I haven’t. I should.
hoppipolla
@Maude: happy to oblige. yes, it’s the red cover. it’s an easy mix-up to make, those books came out around the same time, and Stewart had an only semi-deserved rep as the premier financial investigative reporter in the game. funny how he and Burrough et al ended up as tireless defenders of the overdog. but they’re all WSJ boys, and i guess they know what side their bread is buttered on.
on the other hand, i shouldn’t run around correcting people all the time. kinda obnoxious.
Brachiator
@JGabriel:
Ryan promised a millipede of lies, then had to backtrack and admit that he had only brought a centipede of lies.
danah gaz
@lamh35: I’m glad Jay-Z rocked the vote. This will certainly get those white suburban kids in his audience to the polls.
Now he should make an appearance at an MF Doom or Mos Def show.
debit
@Old Dan and Little Ann: That was adorable.
arguingwithsignposts
@Villago Delenda Est:
If that is the low bar we’re defining as success, then carry on.
Personally, I define success here as being the person who’s sworn in as the president next January.
gogol's wife
@Hill Dweller:
Bring back Alec Baldwin!
ETA: I think it’s because they show so many Lionel Barrymore movies, and it gives her a chance to get teary-eyed over her old great-uncle or whatever he was to her.
xian
@trollhattan: his son?
vheidi
@Old Dan and Little Ann: where on earth do you live?
ETA: although wolves v gunshots …
Poopyman
@Violet: New twitter feed:
#ABLCWG2012
Villago Delenda Est
@arguingwithsignposts:
Hey, it’s OvenMitt. Low bars are what the vermin of the Village are putting out for him.
xian
@Violet: cole needs to make her listen to the Dead. 5/8/77 maybe or 2/13/70
Comrade Jake
@danah gaz:
Yes, I am familiar with the break. That’s why I wrote “2012”. And there are precisely 8 eps left after tonight.
danah gaz
Fucking wow! wow! wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzqvqzBdUQ&feature=player_embedded
If you have not seen this, your life is incomplete.
xian
@Tripod: Obama is slowly turning the liner around, rebuilding the Democratic brand.
xian
@Villago Delenda Est: politicalwire just hired disqus moderators and they’ve been weeding out the most ocdc trolls and all of teh sockpuppets, and it is a joy to behold. we all have our echo chambers, fellow obots, but it’s pathetic how weak fox fu is in a fair fight.
quannlace
When I think about so many recent GOP candidates. All of them have had the ‘bar set low’ for something, usually the debates. Bush, Palin, Romney (tho his more for trying to come across as human.) I’s as if they get through it without drooling on themselves, it’s a Big Win!
The Republicans must be so proud of this stellar group.
Brachiator
@arguingwithsignposts:
Despite the sentiment that he was too bland, too Mormonly cultish, too weak and too wishy washy, Romney shut down any hint of rebellion from Ron Paul and seemingly unified the GOP. This in itself is an achievement. In addition, he has managed to return the Republican Party to the monied elite while keeping the evangelicals and social conservatives in line. Maybe there are wingnuts who still believe that Mitt will meekly do their bidding, but it is beginning to look as though Romney is the rat pulling the chain.
This does not necessarily make Mitt strong going into the national election, he is far from a sure thing. But I continue to be surprised that he has come out of the convention with fairly unified support, given how crappy he was during the primary season. Even Grampa McCain had some Republicans snapping at his heels, and the fundamentalists and Tea Party People loved Palin more than they loved the Arizona Maverick.
I would love to see the Democrats sow some dissension among the GOP ranks.
lamh35
In final interview, liberal Cardinal says Church ‘200 years out of date’
xian
@arguingwithsignposts: right, when the question should be, why is it never reported that… why is it reported that not x, etc
Villago Delenda Est
@danah gaz:
That is GOOD.
Violet
@danah gaz: Oh, Wow. That is good.
SiubhanDuinne
@Corner Stone:
Thanks. I’ll do that.
ETA: Love that Fred Thompson has a role. He was a pretty decent journeyman actor.
dance around in your bones
@danah gaz:
Oh my gawd. That was tear-producing, rage-inducing awesome-awful-wonderful.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh35:
It’s always refreshing when high-ranking churchmen speak truth to power. Archbishop Desmond Tutu said today that Dubya and his lapdog Blair should stand trial at The Hague. He said they acted like “playground bullies.”
Link: http://www.voanews.com/content/tutu-bush-blair-trial-iraq/1500121.html
SiubhanDuinne
@xian:
It’s really kind of amazing that on top of everything else he has done (Lily Ledbetter, auto bailout, ACA, OBL, etc. etc.) he has also taken on the job of turning his own damn party around. He shouldn’t have to be doing that, but damn, I’m glad he is!
Violet
@Brachiator:
Ron Paul’s delegates caused quite a ruckus. They were not shut down, although they were shut out through tricky rule changes.
The Tea Party people love Ryan far more than they love Mitt. I’ve seen and heard wingnuts speak of it as the Ryan/Romney ticket.
For what, three days? Let’s see just how well that fake unity front works a week, two weeks, a month from now.
Brachiator
@Violet:
But that’s the point. Paul’s people were shut out, but for now they appear to be meekly going along, which is all that matters.
I will grant that there appears to be more love for Ryan than for Romney; still Mittens has shaken some of the distrust that dogged him during the primary.
RE: In addition, he has managed to return the Republican Party to the monied elite while keeping the evangelicals and social conservatives in line.
I will be looking for signs of weakness and cracks in the facade. The bottom line is that the Democrats have their work cut out for them. Right now, the GOP does not have to fight to keep their voters in line, and this is a small, but significant tactical advantage.
I want to see the Democrats demolish the GOP’s position coming out of the upcoming convention. Let’s see how they do.
Chris
@Violet:
You’d think those fucking nimrods would pick up on the fact that it was the McCain/Palin and Romney/Ryan tickets and not the other way around. Both times, the Establishment got the candidate it wanted, and then threw in some eye candy for the Activist Base. All you have to do is look at who’s president and who’s VP to know who’s wearing the pants in the relationship.
ETA:
I suspect the coalition will be held together by foaming-at-the-mouth Obama hatred between now and the election (unless Ovenmitt does something really stupid to piss them off, and that is always possible), and if Romney loses, it’ll split apart right after that as the base furiously blames him for losing them the election just as they did McCain.
Steeplejack
@Poopyman:
And video!
trollhattan
@xian</a
He's my "longshot but right up their alley" choice. They've made a point of him being remote, angry, a teenager this season. Red herring? BB's full of them but also tend to weave seemingly forgotten threads back into the story in unexpected ways.
Jessie's where my "safe money" goes.
xian
@trollhattan: yeah, i could see jesse. someone has to put the guy down, at this point, though. i guess the obvious choices are hank or skylar?