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You are here: Home / I Don’t Want To Work, I Just Want to Bang on the Drum All Day

I Don’t Want To Work, I Just Want to Bang on the Drum All Day

by John Cole|  January 3, 20139:41 pm| 101 Comments

This post is in: Our Failed Political Establishment, Teabagger Stupidity

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Ezra gives the middle finger to the worst congress ever:

What’s the record of the 112th Congress? Well, it almost shut down the government and almost breached the debt ceiling. It almost went over the fiscal cliff (which it had designed in the first place). It cut a trillion dollars of discretionary spending in the Budget Control Act and scheduled another trillion in spending cuts through an automatic sequester, which everyone agrees is terrible policy. It achieved nothing of note on housing, energy, stimulus, immigration, guns, tax reform, infrastructure, climate change or, really, anything. It’s hard to identify a single significant problem that existed prior to the 112th Congress that was in any way improved by its two years of rule.

The 112th, which was gaveled into being on Jan. 3, 2011, by newly elected House Speaker John Boehner, wasn’t just unproductive in comparison with the 111th. It was unproductive compared with any Congress since 1948, when scholars began keeping tabs on congressional productivity.

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The 112th found legislating so difficult that lawmakers repeatedly created artificial deadlines for consequences and catastrophes intended to spur them to act. But like Wile E. Coyote with his endless supply of Acme products, when the 112th set a trap, the only sure bet was that it would explode in its collective face, forcing leaders to construct yet another hair- trigger legislative contraption.

The near-shutdown of the federal government in early 2011 was the first of these self-detonated disasters, the near-breach of the debt ceiling in August 2011 was the most damaging, and the fiscal cliff was the dumbest. In each case, Congress mainlined a dose of fear and uncertainty into an economy already beset by too much of both. In each case, the deadline failed to spur responsibility; instead, Congress punted on hard decisions while setting up a new deadline to supplant the old, discarded one.

In that way, the 112th ended as it began: by creating a mess it couldn’t clean up. The resolution, such as it is, of the fiscal cliff simply sets up another fight in the weeks ahead over the debt ceiling and sequestration. Continued fear and uncertainty over the impending battle is the legacy of the 112th to the nation’s economy. Thanks, guys.

Unfortunately, I am under no illusion that the shit-show fail parade of a Republican led House will end with the 112th. I fully expect this new congress to be just as bad or worse, and with Boehner signalling today he is done negotiating with Obama, on this I am probably going to be right.

Buckle up, America. We’re on a big bus together and a drunk driver has the wheel.

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  1. 1.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Buckle up, America. We’re on a big bus together and a drunk driver has the wheel.

    We haven’t had that spirit here, since 1859

  2. 2.

    WereBear

    January 3, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Giving DougJ a run for his money with a Rundgren reference. Good one!

    And this Congress… words freakin’ fail. Oh, Tea Party. When will you go away?

  3. 3.

    Hunter Gathers

    January 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Thanks, American electorate! I would normally be dismayed, but I long ago came to terms with the fact that a majority of voters in this country are dumber than dog shit. We get the Congress we deserve. And the World’s Worst Reality Show gets renewed for another 2 years.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    January 3, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    McConnell today:

    We simply cannot increase the nation’s borrowing limit without committing to long overdue reforms to spending programs that are the very cause of our debt.
    …..
    For the sake of our future, the President must show up to this debate early and convince his party to do something that neither he nor they have been willing to do until now. Over the next two months they need to deliver the same kind of bipartisan resolution to the spending problem we have now achieved on revenue — before the 11th hour.

  5. 5.

    Morzer

    January 3, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    To make matters worse, we are hurtling along an icy road next to a precipice with a drunken orange driver singing Ted Nugent’s greatest hits.

  6. 6.

    dr. bloor

    January 3, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    So you’re saying Michelle Bachmann’s bill to repeal the ACA might not pass this time around?

  7. 7.

    James E. Powell

    January 3, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Calling it a “do nothing” congress is getting close to “both sides do it.” It’s a party that has done everything the constitution allows to prevent the federal government from functioning.

    Many of us, me included, give the president grief because he doesn’t take a harder line with them. But I think we all have to admire his self-control. Not once in any public appearance has the president referred to the Republicans as “those assholes.” I wouldn’t have made it a week without doing that.

  8. 8.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 3, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    I fully expect this new congress to be just as bad or worse, and with Boehner signalling today he is done negotiating with Obama

    Boehner is just acknowledging that he can’t compel his caucus to go for anything he negotiates.

  9. 9.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    @Baud:

    That’s okay, Obama has the Big Bertha Bully Pulpit coming up this month. Inauguration and SOTU, to make Mitch his Bitch all over again. These assholes are painting themselves into another corner, I suspect to cause Obama to do something impeachable to save the country. Or they just can’t quit throwing dead rabbits to the 27 percenters, out of pure fear.

  10. 10.

    The Dangerman

    January 3, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    @Baud:

    We simply cannot increase the nation’s borrowing limit without committing to long overdue reforms to spending programs that are the very cause of our debt.

    From Patty Hearst to a not so Petty Heist; the hostage has been taken.

    Fuck McConnell.

  11. 11.

    Joseph Nobles

    January 3, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    And from the look of Zach Beauchamp’s twitter feed, the 113th-115th isn’t going to fare any better, not with our brand-new Senator from Texas mouthing off:

    https://twitter.com/zackbeauchamp

    He’s talking about this WaPo op/ed from the estimable Senator Cruz:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-gop-needs-message-of-opportunity-conservatism/2013/01/03/c9536c8e-550e-11e2-8b9e-dd8773594efc_story.html

    “Rawlsian lens” should become the latest DougJ plaything.

  12. 12.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 3, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Hell, I still can’t believe he actually got enough votes for the Kliph Bill.

    maybe because he didn’t

  13. 13.

    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin)

    January 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Even the Whigs and the Know-Nothing Party disappeared with a flatulent haze. It just shows to go ya, in today’s politics it pays to decorate your warts, rather than shun and hide them.

  14. 14.

    The Dangerman

    January 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    @efgoldman:

    …can’t believe he actually got enough votes for the Kliph Bill.

    Thus, the pork in the bill; the votes were clearly bought. I mean, it’s not like Obama wanted to give NASCAR a check for tracks.

  15. 15.

    Alison

    January 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    and with Boehner signalling today he is done negotiating with Obama

    Don’t you have to begin something in order to be done with it?

  16. 16.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    your post title just made me think of this.

    Too happy sounding to associate with this do nothing congress. Any bets if the next one will be worst? Did we have Peak Congress yet?

    Just as an OT–I have my Cuban Opus Dei first cousin’s wedding in Miami this weekend. I am telling you guys there’s no amount of alcohol that can get me through it. I will be screaming Viva Castro just to annoy them at the end of it.

  17. 17.

    Felonius Monk

    January 3, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    There’s big difference between the national debt and the debt ceiling. The rethugs seem to enjoy conflating the two or else they really are too stupid to know the difference.

  18. 18.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 3, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    @Alison:

    Don’t you have to begin something in order to be done with it?

    He was. He’s been rolling a president eager to make a deal for awhile now. Then he goes back to his caucus and they gurgle and grunt, yell wolverines and leave him hanging.

  19. 19.

    eemom

    January 3, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    I Don’t Want To Work, I Just Want to Bang on the Drum All Day

    k, now I’m convinced — there is no DougJ. All the sock puppets, spoof trolls, everything — all just one giant John Cole.
    Maybe all the other FPers too.

  20. 20.

    cathyx

    January 3, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    I predict this is the way congress will always behave from now on. Thanks Citizens United and the Supreme Court.

  21. 21.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I haven’t been able to catch up all day: has anyone talked yet about the super duper trillion dollar platinum coin as the way for Obama to get around the debt ceiling?

  22. 22.

    Ted & Hellen

    January 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Two things: I thought Obots believe the Bully Pulpit to be a joke, so how can it possibly be of use to Obama?

    With past bully pulpit opportunities as an example, we can expect forceful, aggressive calls for bipartisanship, which will surely scare to Repubs in to participation.

  23. 23.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    We’re on a big bus together and a drunk driver has the wheel.

    A drunk, weepy, orange driver, with a gang of unruly passengers threatening to take over the wheel if he doesn’t run over as many elderly pedestrians as possible.

  24. 24.

    cathyx

    January 3, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Why does Obama care so much about the deficit?

  25. 25.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    Two things:

    One thing. Fuck off troll.

  26. 26.

    Cassidy

    January 3, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Ted & Hellen Says:

    I’m not a smart man….but I know what pie is.

    This is a very intelligent pie filter.

  27. 27.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 3, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Someday the Fightin’ 112th will be hailed as the awesomest Congress ever for ending loud commercials.

  28. 28.

    RobertDSC-iMac G5

    January 3, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Fine. The oath to the Constitution involves defense against all enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC. Obama should simply round up the GOP terrorists and send them to Gitmo. Done and done.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    January 3, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    @cathyx:

    1) The media cares a lot about the deficit when a Democrat is president.

    2) If he doesn’t take charge of the deficit issue, other politicians will, and will likely produce a worse result for him and all the rest of us too.

  30. 30.

    Ken Burd

    January 3, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Boehner saying he is not going to negotiate with Obama is just the same as Boehner saying he is going to quit having sex with Marilyn Monroe.

  31. 31.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 3, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    @Valdivia:

    I haven’t been able to catch up all day: has anyone talked yet about the super duper trillion dollar platinum coin as the way for Obama to get around the debt ceiling?

    While I support minting a trillion dollar platinum coin featuring Reagan to celebrate him for being the first president to run up a trillion dollars in debt, I think it’s unlikely to happen.

  32. 32.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    @cathyx:

    Why does Obama care so much about the deficit?

    Because it is sound and responsible economics for the long run. If you listen to Obama, rather than react, he always speaks in terms of reducing the long term deficit, which is boilerplate keynesian econ theory. The republicans don’t care about the deficit and never have. They are obsessed with killing the safety net and New Deal entitlements. Their reasons for this are purely political in an overall electoral sense, as well as their bedrock belief that all money belongs to the wealthy. The rest of us only rent that money for basic subsistence to stay healthy enough to help make the rich even richer.

  33. 33.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    ha it had not occurred to be that it would genius to put his visage on the coin.

    ETA: Also, too. Woodward has one of his gossipy pieces about the Cliff. I am sure it’s all about how Obama made the Republicans cry.

  34. 34.

    Raven

    January 3, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @Valdivia: You’re gonna fuck around and get cut.

  35. 35.

    Suzanne

    January 3, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin):

    flatulent haze

    That would be a great band name.

  36. 36.

    Cacti

    January 3, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Per AP: Dems introduce a high capacity magazine ban in the House.

  37. 37.

    smintheus

    January 3, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Yeah, but just think how many post offices are getting renamed.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 3, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    @dr. bloor:

    Lucky 34?

  39. 39.

    PeakVT

    January 3, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    We simply cannot increase the nation’s borrowing limit without committing to long overdue reforms to spending programs that are the very cause of our debt.

    Lies, lies, lies.

  40. 40.

    Baud

    January 3, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    @smintheus:

    No kidding. I should have bought Post Office Signage Co. during their IPO.

  41. 41.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 3, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Oops, beat to the punch by efgoldman

  42. 42.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    @Raven:

    as long as they don’t whip out the cilice….;)

  43. 43.

    Ted & Hellen

    January 3, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Fuck off troll.

    Yes, I am so wounded by that.

    And wow, haven’t heard that one before.

    Stuck, you are a pompous windbag. Is there any thread you don’t suffocate with the big fat stinky ass of your endless windbaggery?

    YOU are BJ’s most noxious and persistent troll.

  44. 44.

    Ted & Hellen

    January 3, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @Cassidy:

    Pretend to pie me, then respond to me anyway.

    You are a loser for the ages.

  45. 45.

    Raven

    January 3, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    @Valdivia: Had to google that!

  46. 46.

    Baud

    January 3, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    @Valdivia:

    I initially read that as Ci-alis. :-{

  47. 47.

    barath

    January 3, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    I have to say, I’m not sure New Deal Democrat (who used to post at dkos fairly often, and is top-notch in economic analysis) is wrong in saying this about Ezra Klein’s latest postings:

    Young-Broder-in-training hears a heavy stillness

  48. 48.

    Ted & Hellen

    January 3, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Shorter Schmuck: One must listen to Obama’s speeches thru one’s special deluxe Obama decoder earphones. Only then does one hear the words one wants to imagine to hear.

  49. 49.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    @Raven:
    don’t ask me how I know about it! :)

    @Baud:
    if I were really bad I could quip, but I am going to behave. Promise.

  50. 50.

    grooverider31

    January 3, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    @General Stuck: general, i’m no fkcng troll, but i believe you are wrong on this one. obama is not a keynesian and he is pretty much into the idea to cut the deficit. and he will go after our entitlements. that was the reason, why harry didn’t negotiate for him with turtle and joe had to take over last time. and as happy i am, that we will get rid of geithner at the end of this months, i have really a bad feeling about his follower. bowles or some wall street guy? it doesn’t matter, it will be some deficit hawk paid by pete peterson. you can bet on that.

  51. 51.

    Raven

    January 3, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    @Valdivia: I figured it was some mackerel snapper deal.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    January 3, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    @Valdivia:

    If you were really bad, the Ci-alis might come in handy.

  53. 53.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    LOL, I’d say something nasty back, if you weren’t already so obviously miserable being you. You are just too pitiful to flame.

  54. 54.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 3, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin):

    “Flatulent Haze” would be a good band name.

  55. 55.

    Valdivia

    January 3, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    @Raven:
    ha ha!

    @Baud:
    touche!

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 3, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    @Suzanne:

    GodDAMMIT Suzanne.

  57. 57.

    Trakker

    January 3, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    I may be in the minority but I think the 113th will be somewhat better than the 112th. More Dems in Congress, more experience dealing with the tea party, a smaller tea party, and a growing fury by the voters will probably contribute to a better record.

    On the other hand the tea party is now a cornered beast fighting for its life and more than capable of doing huge damage to the country as it sinks into the tar pits of history.

  58. 58.

    burnspbesq

    January 3, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @Cacti:

    Per AP: Dems introduce a high capacity magazine ban in the House.

    Ordinarily I have a fairly low tolerance for political kabuki, such as loudly introducing legislation that has no chance of getting a floor vote in the House. This issue is different. If Democrats can successfully paint the Republicans as enablers of massacres of children, that can only help in 2014.

    So yeah, hang that albatross around the R’s necks every chance you get.

  59. 59.

    kimp

    January 3, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Sadly, I see no end in sight to the notion that Obama will cave. I believed intially that he was playing the long game, but do not any longer. The idea that he will actually keep his word when promising to protect the poor and middle class seems laughable now. I simply do not understand why he keeps going further right in order to appease people intent on ruining him and the people who voted him in.

  60. 60.

    burnspbesq

    January 3, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    You, fucker. Yes, you.

    What’s your agenda?

    What do you want?

    Why do you come here?

  61. 61.

    J. Michael Neal

    January 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    WTF? Was that a safety on a 2-point conversion attempt? There’s something you don’t see very often.

  62. 62.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    @grooverider31:

    Let me introduce you to Ted And Hellen.

  63. 63.

    Suzanne

    January 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: LMMFAOOOOOOOOO.

  64. 64.

    burnspbesq

    January 3, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Fuck that, and fuck him. I say we trap him in the shower after gym class and shoot a turkey baster full of Atomic Balm up his ass.

  65. 65.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 3, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    @kimp: It depends on which “long game” you think he’s playing. What you think is a long game, cutting taxes for the poor, keeping unemployment, is not a long game. Any one of those things can be changed by any congress and president. The long game is breaking the Republicans. Last night we saw two things end: Republicans never voting for tax increases, and the Hastert rule. With those things gone, the Republican party is falling apart.

    In the early 80s, Reagan didn’t get everything he wanted. He got a tax cut all right, and then had to raise taxes 10 times. But he weakened the Democrats and changed the way Washington worked for 10 years.

  66. 66.

    Humble Lurker

    January 3, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    @Ted & Hellen:

    Still haven’t figured out how to use the Edit function have you, pedophile defender?

  67. 67.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 3, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    @burnspbesq: Wouldn’t tape across the butt work, or would that just get you sent to the library for Saturday detention?

  68. 68.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Why do you come here?

    Some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused.

  69. 69.

    Or something like that.Suffern Ace

    January 3, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    @kimp: oh god. Please explain how you were hurt by not going over the fiscal cliff. Were your taxes raised too much? Were you upset that formula 1 race track builders didn’t get a break? Do you simply think workers shouldn’t pay their FICA ever again and that mysterious other people should pay and everyone should retire at 59?

  70. 70.

    kimp

    January 3, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): I get that the immediate benefits are not inconsequential, but the “permanent” tax cuts, and the idea that we have shifted so quickly from the “fiscal cliff” debacle to the next “debt ceiling” fight without any sort of believable fortitude, worries me. He has (and has had) a unique opportunity to change the narrative and yet he seems to be buying in , in ways, that taxes are too high. I don’t see that as helpful.

  71. 71.

    kimp

    January 3, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    @Or something like that.Suffern Ace</[email protected]Or something like that.Suffern Ace: I am not sure why you would think I didn’t want taxes to go up. They need to. I wish he had explained why it was vital to do so.

  72. 72.

    El Cid

    January 3, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    @Or something like that.Suffern Ace:

    and everyone should retire at 59?

    It may not have to do with the “fiscal cliff,” but the economy and our population would be better off if we did. If instead of our scrimpy retirement system and an eye toward getting us all to work until we rot we moved toward earlier retirement and healthier social pensions, younger workers could not just find work but careers.

  73. 73.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    @Trakker:

    On the other hand the tea party is now a cornered beast fighting for its life and more than capable of doing huge damage to the country as it sinks into the tar pits of history.

    And a lot of them are in what they think are safe gerrymandered districts, which isn’t going to make them any more prone to compromise.

  74. 74.

    General Stuck

    January 3, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    @kimp:

    “[W]hile I will negotiate over many things, I will not have another debate with this Congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they’ve already racked up through the laws that they passed. Let me repeat: We can’t not pay bills that we’ve already incurred. If Congress refuses to give the United States government the ability to pay these bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy would be catastrophic — far worse than the impact of a fiscal cliff,” Obama said at around 11:26 last night.

    He saying he won’t even talk about it with the wingnuts. And the actual video footage of this statement was a surprising bit of cold resolve that it needs to be witnessed to appreciate. Especially from this ordinarily willing president to talk about anything the wingers want to.

    Maybe you should spend less time on left wing blogs, and actually catch up news from the horses mouth. Obama has not for a second stated he will give up creating new revenue, especially from the wealthy. It is why they are so angry with him from being so slippery on public announcements and negotiating behind closed doors.

    and

    ‘I Will Ask For More Tax Increases on the Rich Later,’ Obama Promises

    Take some time to view and read actual statements Obama makes on things. You have no idea what you are talking about here.

  75. 75.

    kimp

    January 4, 2013 at 12:00 am

    Your steadfast belief in his on air statements is quaint. I seem to remember a pledge to repeal the Bush tax cuts, not make them permanent.

  76. 76.

    General Stuck

    January 4, 2013 at 12:10 am

    @kimp:

    No, he promised to make permanent Bush’s tax cuts for the middle class, and could only do that by extending all the Bush tax cuts for two years, and now has fully delivered on both promises with due process of compromise in a democracy.

    Obama is far and away the most likely president in my lifetime, to at least try to do in his campaign promises. He has not been perfect, but unless he was thwarted by the limits of his office, and considering we have divided government with two other co equal branches of that government. It really isn’t close in the department of following up campaign promises.

    edit – It is true that Obama rarely draws deep lines in the sand, as per his method of open negotiation. He sure as shit has done that this time with the debt ceiling.

  77. 77.

    Or something like that.Suffern Ace

    January 4, 2013 at 12:15 am

    @kimp: what? We just had two elections now where he pledged to make them permanent for middle and lower middle class households. He’s twice tried and finally succeeded in raising higher income tax rates without raising lower income tax rates.

  78. 78.

    Mike in NC

    January 4, 2013 at 12:22 am

    @kimp: New year, new firebagger.

  79. 79.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    January 4, 2013 at 12:23 am

    @burnspbesq:

    Why do you come here?

    All of the attention people give him.

  80. 80.

    gwangung

    January 4, 2013 at 12:28 am

    @kimp:

    Your steadfast belief in his on air statements is quaint. I seem to remember a pledge to repeal the Bush tax cuts, not make them permanent.

    Your reliance on fallible memory is…quaint.

  81. 81.

    burnspbesq

    January 4, 2013 at 12:41 am

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Wouldn’t tape across the butt work

    Not enough pain.

  82. 82.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    January 4, 2013 at 12:44 am

    @burnspbesq: Tape across the butt, what is this, the Breakfast Club?

  83. 83.

    Yutsano

    January 4, 2013 at 1:00 am

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: Yup. Pretty much. That and I’m certain this is the only place Special Timmeh has ever successfully peddled his kitsch.

  84. 84.

    kdaug

    January 4, 2013 at 1:02 am

    @Valdivia:

    as anyone talked yet about the super duper trillion dollar platinum coin

    Platinum’s overrated.

    Try pine.

  85. 85.

    kdaug

    January 4, 2013 at 1:08 am

    @Ted & Hellen:

    YOU are BJ’s most noxious and persistent troll.

    No fair, jackass. I ain’t even got started yet.

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    January 4, 2013 at 1:29 am

    @kdaug: Gold-pressed latinum or bust!

  87. 87.

    ruemara

    January 4, 2013 at 2:00 am

    @grooverider31: doofus. There is a huge difference between a rational downpayment on the deficit over time and radical cuts done immediately. There’s a huge difference between savings based on payments and savings based on cost containment to vendors and fraud controls. The fact that you’re feeding off the liberal fear factor blogs is your own choice, but the facts have not been kind to your fantasy Obama.

  88. 88.

    AA+ Bonds

    January 4, 2013 at 2:25 am

    .
    .
    Ezra Klein is a liar built by your oppressors. Don’t be dumb. There was bipartisan Congressional support all year round – for American-job-exporting free trade agreements that this idiot Klein supports.

  89. 89.

    AA+ Bonds

    January 4, 2013 at 2:28 am

    OH BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE HOUSE OH MERCY ME OH MY DON’T LOOK AT OUR FOREIGN OR TRADE POLICY OR ANYTHING

  90. 90.

    YellowJournalism

    January 4, 2013 at 2:29 am

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: I’m sure we have the basket case and brain/dork parts filled. Probably the criminal, too. And John can be Vernonesque. Who would be the princess?

  91. 91.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    January 4, 2013 at 3:22 am

    @YellowJournalism:

    Who would be the princess?

    Betty Cracker, of course!

  92. 92.

    TenguPhule

    January 4, 2013 at 3:48 am

    Boehner saying he is not going to negotiate with Obama is just the same as Boehner saying he is going to quit having sex with Marilyn Monroe.

    So Orangeman is a necrophiliac on top of his many other sins?

  93. 93.

    Paul

    January 4, 2013 at 5:09 am

    @Baud:

    We simply cannot increase the nation’s borrowing limit without committing to long overdue reforms to spending programs that are the very cause of our debt.
    …..
    For the sake of our future, the President must show up to this debate early and convince his party to do something that neither he nor they have been willing to do until now. Over the next two months they need to deliver the same kind of bipartisan resolution to the spending problem we have now achieved on revenue — before the 11th hour.

    This from the guy who voted for the Iraq war spending and every supplemental bill to fund the Iraq war. Maybe McConnell should show up to debate himself to come up with solutions to his own spending problems. He certainly has no problem spending other people’s money on dumb wars.

    BTW – Instead of debating the debt limit, why not simply not vote to spend the money in the first place!

  94. 94.

    brantl

    January 4, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Speaker John Boehner, hyperdynamic underacheiver.

  95. 95.

    Lojasmo

    January 4, 2013 at 8:20 am

    @Ted & Hellen:

    You areI am a loser for the ages

    Fixt. You know, for all the slagging you do on Obama, you seem not to realize that most democrats voted for him knowing FULL WELL he is a centrist and a pragmatist. Surprisingly, despite that, he has ushered in a slew of progressive law, including the end of DADT (which he championed) Lilly Ledbetter, the end to the Iraq war, and a better health care proposal than Clinton offered, but failed to get. This all with the most obstructionist congress in history.

    What is your deal, really?

  96. 96.

    Lojasmo

    January 4, 2013 at 8:32 am

    @burnspbesq:

    Fuck that, and fuck him. I say we trap him in the shower after gym class and shoot a turkey baster full of Atomic Balm up his ass.

    It will most likely be consensual.

  97. 97.

    xian

    January 4, 2013 at 10:48 am

    @Baud: he’s got the order wrong. first something was done on spending alone (the 2011 deal and sequester), then something was done on revenue alone (the deal just done). now there’s a debt ceiling (so what) and the sequester is back, containing cuts neither side wants.

    Obama has already explained that any plan to avoid the sequester must be balanced, half revenue, half cuts. Dems will propose the revenue they want. GOP can propose cuts.

  98. 98.

    xian

    January 4, 2013 at 10:53 am

    @General Stuck: Obama’s biggest problem with optics is that the same plan that any sensible economist would recommend (spend more now to stimulate recovery, pay down debt in out years when the economy is strong and to be prepared for future downturns) sounds exactly like “spend more now / cut some time in the vague future” which is what most cynical people expect politicians to say and which Teapers believe is dee debil.

    personally, I think the solution is to establish debt-reduction plans that kick in with triggers when the economy reaches certain benchmarks representing healthiness.

  99. 99.

    xian

    January 4, 2013 at 10:54 am

    @grooverider31: you’re no troll but you sure do seem concerned.

  100. 100.

    xian

    January 4, 2013 at 10:55 am

    @kimp: this is parody stuff, right?

  101. 101.

    stinger

    January 4, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Governing through fear and uncertainty, and punting on the hard decisions. Sounds a lot like the 8 years of Bush/Cheney.

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