… and for Hillary, too. I think I owe someone aHat tip to Elizabelle for this LA Times link:
Democratic presidential candidate Martin O’Malley suggested Sunday that Congress had fallen under the sway of “white racism” and the political force of the National Rifle Assn. in refusing to respond with new laws to a cascade of shooting incidents in recent years.
Speaking before the nation’s mayors, gathered in San Francisco, O’Malley pointed to gun restrictions passed when he was governor of Maryland to ban assault weapons, enforce background checks and tighten permitting procedures — efforts that have been blocked at the national level by Republicans, and some Democrats, in Congress.
“One of the sad triumphs of white racism is the degree to which it has succeeded in subconsciously convincing so many of us, black and white, that somehow black lives don’t matter,” he said. “If the thousands of young men killed by gun violence every year across America were young, poor and white — rather than young, poor and black — it is hard to imagine that our Congress would continue to block common-sense measures to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.”…
President Obama on Friday and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday also demanded changes that have been forwarded in recent years but then foundered.
Clinton delivered an evocative call to personal and political reflection on racial matters, and O’Malley also walked that ground when he mocked South Carolina’s use of the Confederate flag. He contrasted its continued acceptance to the forgiveness that the Charleston victims’ families offered the accused shooter in court on Friday…
O’Malley said he would lead a renaissance of job creation in the nation’s cities — although he did not say how, other than to insist that it had to be done by the president, not state or local leaders.
“For all the good work President Obama has done to save us from the second Great Depression,” he said, “… the fact of the matter is most Americans feel like we are all working harder but slipping further behind — and they’re not wrong.”…
Elizabelle
Twould be moi. And thank YOU for front paging it.
The Other Bob
I guess H. Clinton won’t feel the need to run as the candidate of hard working white voters again.
Anne Laurie
@The Other Bob:
She’s perfectly capable of running as the candidate for hardworking white and non-white voters. Let’s not let the Repub ratfvckers set us to fighting each other instead of the GOP… again.
Botsplainer
A couple of thoughts on Charleston, which have been gelling in my cranium:
1. It looks like The little douchebag got the opposite of what he wanted – looks like treason’s rag is coming down in SC and MS, others to follow.
It is making an impression if even conservative GOPers are coming around.
2. It may be the “Bull Connor and his firehoses” moment in terms of awakening the mushy middle to how the concentration of conservatism in the South serves as a focal point.
3. The problem isn’t generic Republicans – it is conservatism. If conservatives had their way, mixed race dating, contraceptives, Sunday liquor sales and oral sex would still be illegal.
Keith G
A thing that I just learned via twitter:
Go to Walmart.com
Type “confederate flag” into the search window
Gasp
Steve from Antioch
Anyone got a count of how many people are killed in the United States by “assault weapons”?
And how does that number compare with those who are killed by, say, lightning?
BruceFromOhio
@Anne Laurie: This please.
If catapulting off my shoulders pushes me down a bit and takes us all higher, Gaia love you, GO FOR IT.
@Keith G: No. Its fucking WALMART. I know exactly what I will find.
lamh36
BTW, That goddamn flag should not be up when Senator Pickney’s body lays in state. Somebody with a heavy hammer needs to take that shit down. Hell, cut down the pole!
Patricia Kayden
@Botsplainer: Didn’t hear anything about MS.
The Other Bob
@Anne Laurie:
We dont need the Republican ratfvckers, when we have candidates who say stupid shit like she does. She must have been accidently channeling her inner Arkansan that day.
H. Clinton is only a Democrat because the Repubs are crazy. Don’t expect those of us who want a progressive agenda to just fall in line.
BruceFromOhio
@Steve from Antioch: No, you see, because what O’Malley said happens to be accurate.
BruceFromOhio
@lamh36: They have to learn to cut it down themselves, otherwise its just Civil War II.
Elizabelle
@Keith G: 10,641 results for “confederate flag” at WalMart a minute ago.
gf120581
@Patricia Kayden: The Speaker of the state House (a GOPer) said he wants the flag to come down. He wouldn’t have come out if he didn’t have support.
So, to recap:
They want it down in SC.
Walmart is kicking it out of its stores.
The GOP 2016 contenders are now tripping over each other to say they want it gone (even Lindsey “It’s part of who we are” Graham).
And now MS.
Is anyone else looking around expecting to see Rod Serling narrating?
Mike J
How long has it been since the Times editorial board wrote a column that wasn’t a heaving bag of stupid?
Reset your clock.
Davebo
New laws won’t resolve 320 million guns in America anymore than new laws will end racism.
Our only hope is time. Racist die though obviously new ones spring up, and guns rust. The problems, both of them, are immune to any legislation and hopeless attempts to solve them via legislation just cause both to grow.
Elizabelle
@Steve from Antioch:
PQED blog: No one cares what kind of gun you have.
The Other Bob
@lamh36:
Road trip?
Mike J
@Davebo:
If you make it more difficult to get new guns, the old ones will slowly (too slowly) pass put of use.
It won’t solve the problem overnight, but it’s the only way forward.
Elizabelle
@Elizabelle: Ixnay on the Walmart comment. The search function is insanely broad. Probably returns tampons and hair conditioner too.
Carry on.
Steve from Antioch
@Elizabelle: There seems to be some tension between the views of that author and the author of many gun control laws, which are specifically tailored to “kinds of guns.”
Indeed O’Mally’s quote above specifically singles out “assault rifles” that were the subject of legislation he endorsed.
Botsplainer
@Patricia Kayden:
Article in the Clarion Ledger today.
Also, rather than using the anodyne word slavery (anodyne for the South anyway, sad that the concept is), call it what it is – stolen labor. Let the wingnuts know that the ancestors of the finest families got wealthy by stealing labor, selling children and forcing sex, in violation of all their sacred Mosaic commandments. Let ’em know that the dumbasses who fought but didn’t have slaves were stupid enough to support those who did.
Let the moniker of “conservative” turn to ash on the tongue.
Elizabelle
@Steve from Antioch: Issue for me is that too many people are being killed by guns, and that too many guns are floating around in reach of people who are not responsible enough to own them.
We would all be safer with fewer guns and better background checks — and don’t make it one-time.
We would be safer with Swiss-style gun owning and handling regulations.
Everything else is noise.
jl
I finally heard some of the statements church members made to the alleged shooter. Amazing. Brought tears to my eyes. I wonder how much exposure those statements got on the media? They should prompt anyone to stop and think things over real hard, who is not a die hard deadender racist
The news should have really highlighted those statements.
Dylann Roof Bond Hearing. Victims Address Charleston Shooter In Court
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e26Eysq22Yg
Elizabelle
I don’t think Republicans suddenly had a road to Damascus moment.
I think they want to clear one relatively easy obstacle out of the way for the party and its candidates.
The real tell will be if we can ever have an honest talk about guns, racism, and stolen labor.
The flag of treason is kind of a sideshow, but will take any progress we can get.
Don’t let it distract from going for the big solutions, though.
Cheap Jim, formerly Cheap Jim
@Steve from Antioch: You are a worthless geek.
Valdivia
@Elizabelle:
This, exactly.
Davebo
@Mike J:
Agreed. But I think we all know new laws, at least at this time, are a non starter.
The entire situation can be so totally dissallunioning at times. And even a squeak at the idea of some reasonable restrictions just fills the coffers of those who manufacture and sell them.
Obama has been a gold mine for these companies
Mike J
@jl: He’s admitted it. You don’t have to say alleged.
Elizabelle
@Mike J: From the NYTime editorial:
NotMax
@Cheap Jim, formerly Cheap Jim
No person is completely worthless.
He/She can always be used as a vividly horrible example.
the Conster
@Botsplainer:
The whole history of sovereign wealth and private wealth is the theft of labor and resources – slavery and colonialism. Conservatives are trying to keep that status quo because they are all about cronyism and rent-seeking. Otherwise they may have to actually work for a living.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax:
That’s my job here, damn it.
Steve from Antioch
@Elizabelle:
Agree with you regarding background checks. I would be in favor of a nationwide “gun license” program that subjects folks to a thorough check and then there is a central clearinghouse that can be updated when, say, someone is arrested for various (alleged) crimes like Roof was.
Another useful prerequisite would be stringent hands-on safety tests – the ones that exist now (even in CA where I live) are a joke.
I suspect that there’s too much distrust among most gun-owners that the “license” would become a “registry” that could be used for confiscation.
Belafon
@Elizabelle: We don’t want to fall into the trap of “it’s not that big of a deal because removing the flag doesn’t end racism.” It is a big deal. The flag is a symbol. We can’t ban it like the way that the Germans could ban the swastika, but making people ashamed to have it around is a very important goal.
People have made symbols throughout the years because they are powerful.
Mike J
@Belafon: If symbols aren’t important, why not get rid of it?
Kped
Anyone read Dailykos or Huffingtonpost about the Blumenthal Benghazi hearing? Apparently, it was hours of questions about the Clinton Foundation and Media Matters. Hillary is smart to refuse to do any closed door sessions. That is where the slimy Republicans will just go after her for trivial crap, then selectively release things to make her look bad.
It’s also why they refuse to meet her in public, they know they have nothing on the actual investigation.
Steppan
@Cheap Jim, formerly Cheap Jim:
Don’t trash geeks like that.
I’m not familiar with Steve’s other postings, but it seems like completely the wrong adjective here.
Keith G
@Steve from Antioch:
Lightning can be deadly. I used to be a football coach. To keep our folks safe, we worked under zero tolerance guide lines with regards to lightning (from state governing bodies on down to local).
Assault weapons can also be very deadly, but unlike lightning, they are not naturally occurring. The very real threats such weapons pose should be mitigated, in part by zero tolerance policies.
How many assault style weapon deaths (to used a more accurate term) are too many for you? If all of them are preventable, shouldn’t they be prevented? If your family was in the wrong place at the wrong time and they were butchered by a loon with an assault style fire arm, would you view that number of deaths as too many? Maybe you would have liked to have had those deaths prevented?
Maybe not.
Mike J
@Steppan: Geeks were originally people who bit the heads off chickens for money. I always said I bite the heads off computers.
different-church-lady
Fixed that for him. White poors might result in a ever so slightly higher give-a-shit factor, but still wouldn’t trump the NRA lobby.
mai naem mobile
Maybe the BMW and Mercedes-Benz plant managers in SC were.a little concerned about their South Carolinian workers thinking it was okay to stick a Nazi swastika on the cars they were making down there.
Mike J
@mai naem mobile: The most visible face of Mercedes is a black man.
BWM drivers think they should still be allowed to own people.
Steppan
@Mike J:
The more you know!
I like that modern-day take.
Steve from Antioch
@Keith G:
You can take two approaches: you can talk about how every single life is a precious flower and that one death is too much. Or you can try to realistically assess whether there are are a sufficient number of deaths to warrant a public policy response.
In almost every other context, people choose the second approach. That is why we still have swimming pools in backyards in America despite the fact that a few thousand children drown every year.
So, hey if you want to go with the “But what if it were your FAMBILY” level of crass emotionalism, I’ll leave you to that.
Gin & Tonic
@Steve from Antioch: I suspect that there’s too much distrust among most gun-owners that the “license” would become a “registry” that could be used for confiscation.
Huh. I wonder why that is.
Mandalay
@Elizabelle:
You may have 10,641 results, but you won’t see any Confederate flag for sale. At least I don’t.
redshirt
@the Conster: Do you have a form of contact?
satby
Open thread so, Belle update:
All is well and Belle is doing great! She’s a joy to her fosters and quickly winning the hearts of the little people too! She will be evalutated next week to see if her heart is strong enough for the spay and tumor removal. She has gained her weight back and still a very sweet old lady.
Fingers crossed that the fosters decide to be the forevers!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve from Antioch: And if semi-autos with large capacity, easily removable/replaceable magazines make mass shootings easier, why should people not advocate for removing them from society.
Steve from Antioch
@Mandalay:
Unlike, say, Amazon where there are over 30,000 items for sale when you search confederate flag: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=confederate+flag
And, yes, many of them are, in fact, confederate flags.
But it is more fun to pick on the Walmart because that is where the poor trashy folks shop.
Steve from Antioch
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh, you want to try and talk to me like a grown up now?
I tell you what, twat-waffle, why don’t you go fuck yourself until you apologize.
srv
James Horner, probable RIP.
Kay
@Steve from Antioch:
But a lot of places regulate swimming pools. Here’s Florida:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0500-0599/0515/0515.html
Steve from Antioch
@Kay: Yep. Reasonable regulation tailored to quantifiable risk makes sense.
Mandalay
@Steve from Antioch:
You lost me completely there. AFAIK nobody here is picking on Walmart for not selling the Confederate flag. Why would they? I would have thought that most folks here fully support Walmart’s decision.
Kay
@Steve from Antioch:
Here’s a federal regulation:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/8003
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve from Antioch: And this is actually why I generally don’t try to speak to you as though you are an adult.
Kay
@Steve from Antioch:
But we’re not regulating gun owners. Instead we’re regulating everyone else. Why should every public school kid have to endure “lock downs” because gun owners won’t accept any regulation at all?
LWA (Liberal With Attitude)
A lot of the arguments over gun control circle endlessly around “silver bullet” theories of The Magic Something That Will End Gun Violence.
It doesn’t exist. What does exist, as evidenced by the change in attitudes towards the Confederate flag, is that we hold in our hands the power to change our culture.
When we speak up with conviction and the power of truth, we can win. We can for example, speak out repeatedly against the idiocy that alleges that our world is so wickedly dangerous it is reasonable to carry a gun to Krogers. IT ISN”T.
We can speak up forcefully against the idea that there exists such a thing as a natural moral right to own deadly weapons. THERE ISN”T.
We can shame and embarrass and marginalize the idiots who push all this nonsense. We can make them afraid to say these things at family gatherings, parties, workplaces and buses.
We don’t need the Green Lantern of Obama, or for Rupert Murdoch to have a conversion or for the CEOs of firearms companies to give different marching orders to the NRA.
We can do this, the same way that the decades of endless stories of urban crime nightmares terrified Americans into believing that guns are the magic answer to any fear.
Steve from Antioch
@Omnes Omnibus: Gee, that doesn’t sound like an apology.
JustRuss
@Steve from Antioch:
More like a couple hundred: http://www.poolsafely.gov/child-drownings-during-the-summer-of-2014/
Swimming pools and spas are enjoyed by millions of Americans every year. What joy are you getting from an AR15 that you couldn’t get from a bolt-action 30.06?
Steve from Antioch
@Kay: you’re believe there is no regulation at all of gun owners?
Steve from Antioch
@Mandalay: Look upthread and you’ll see folks saying – basically – Oh, I don’t even need to look at the website because I know how shitty Walmart is and, of course, they are peddling confederate flags.
the Conster
@redshirt:
[email protected]
Steve from Antioch
@JustRuss: I was looking at the govt. stats for drownings of kids and there are 2 or 3K a year. Not sure how many exactly are in swimming pools.
magurakurin
@Steve from Antioch: I gotta hand it to you Republican Ratfuckers you stay in character almost as well as Colbert did. But, you are just a Republican Ratfucker, just like The Other Republican Ratfucker above. And nobody here has ever been or will be convinced to change their opinions based on your said ratfucking done here. But, a job is a job, I guess. It’s a paycheck, eh boss?
ruemara
@Anne Laurie: Hillary Clinton didn’t need any help blowing black supporters off with that comment. And Bernie Sanders unearthed comments are in the same vein. Liberals need to start looking at the big elephant in the room that there’s a level of tacit acceptance that white liberal views are often a condescending, paternalistic stereotype of blacks. It doesn’t hurt to look, understand and change.
jl
I don’t think just counting numbers of deaths really gets at the issue. It’s the relative costs and benefits of taking preventive measures to stop the deaths, even if the number of deaths is very low.
Say a farmer pulls a pump out of a well in the ground and leaves a hole. How many people are likely to fall int the hole? One? How many people die from falling in abandoned wells each year. Not many. But the costs of covering the well are so low, you do it. It’s a no brainer.
How many kids died from locking themselves in refrigerators each year before certain types of refrigerator door latches were mandated?
Obviously opinions differ on the costs of preventing gun deaths through gun control, mandatory gun safety courses, etc.
I think most of the NRA and gun nut’s estimates of the costs are nuts, but that is what we are arguing about.
So, I have no interest in going over all the thousands of ways grown-ups and kids get killed each year accidentally. That is only part of the equation for public policy decisions.
Kay
@Steve from Antioch:
I’ve watched it get more insane in this state every single year for the past decade.
I don’t even care anymore. I recently had a situation where three people were involved in an ongoing dispute. All three are armed constantly. Two of the three told me the other is nuts. Those two are wrong. They’re all nuts. I told them I don’t care and good luck.
trollhattan
@Steve from Antioch:
Contestant: “I’ll take Bushmasters for a thousand, Alex.”
Alex: “In addition to owning this fine Freedom Machine(TM) John Allen Muhammad and Adam Lanza have this in common.”
Contestant: “What are big, swinging’ dicks?”
Alex:: “Uh, we can edit this out, right?”
Thanks for playing, now go for a swim in the river.
different-church-lady
@trollhattan: Comment of the Year nomination.
Mandalay
@ruemara:
Well said. Though I don’t always agree with his approach, Tavis Smiley has been relentless in pointing out how the Democrats have largely taken the black vote for granted, and delivered very little in return. I think he has a point.
NotMax
@Steve from Antioch
So where are you arranging the rallying spot to march on Walmart to demand they cease selling backyard pools and guns?
/whack-a-troll
Keith G
@Steve from Antioch:
Well, the day someone carries a swimming pool into a crowded place and kills a dozen kids, I will be right there demanding that pools be banned.
Assault style weapons are not tools, nor do they provide any useful legal function that cannot easily be carried out by a less dangerous product. They are in fact a type of toy with a much greater lethality than the much maligned Lawn Jarts.
Omnes Omnibus
@Keith G: Assault weapons are tools for soldiers and they are intended for that purpose. There is no civilian purpose for them.
seaboogie
@jl: They made those brave and compassionate statements on Juneteenth. Think about that for a bit.
Ruckus
@Elizabelle:
Noticed your comment to me on a prior thread about my response to LAC.
Thanks
That was about the 6th complete, and I do mean complete, rewrite and I was still hesitant about posting it. But I thought it had to be said. I like having a debate/discussion here. It’s interesting and frequently informative. But sometimes it seems like jr high school, with all the back biting and personalities at play. And I’m not saying we should all just get along, that obviously is never going to happen. But at least we could be sometimes a bit more civil. Of course there are times and trolls that civility is totally lost on and inappropriate. Example, on FB one of my friends posted about the Arlington, VA statute about swearing in public. Of course every time I see anything about this I have to reply with as many swear words as I can work into a comment. And that’s a lot, after all I was in the navy. I even used to know phrases in different languages but lack of usage (and probably age) has led to a lack of recall or I’d throw those in as well.
Punchy
@Kay: because freedom, libtard. How are we supposed to teach those Russians not to mess with us if we dont carry our M-50s Rambo-style to buy yougurt and cheese?
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: There was a legendary and possibly mythical sergeant-major in British India who could curse in 17 languages. A perfect skill for a senior NCO.
Pee Cee
@Keith G:
There’s apparently a gun nut talking point about swimming pools being so much more dangerous than guns because there are more accidental drownings per year than accidental gun deaths. Which completely ignores the real problem of deliberate gun deaths… but I guess that’s the point.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
Sanskrit curses raise demons. so, um, there is that.
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Speaking of raising demons . . . LOL.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
hey, you …
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: I actually LOLed.
Steve from Antioch
@Pee Cee:
NOPE
WRONG AGAIN
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: I did as well.
Debating whether to go to Target to get some black hair dye.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I denounce you both to Kali. the hell is that british sergeant?
and who is steve from antioch? the wise one?
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve from Antioch: Capital letters don’t actually result in a more persuasive argument, but please proceed.
Little Boots
or three.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: SFA is a randomly recurring libertarian, pro-gun, priggish troll. The priggishness is what gets under my skin.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I really, really get sick of pro-gun, but you know what, it is bearable in a way that priggish is not.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
and wouldya?
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: For once we agree on something. And I am not “in a mood,” so I don’t need such accusations tonight. Deal. I am in a mood but it is happy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: Would I what?
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
mood? what did I say about mood? okay fine,
oh, it’s Kali. see, you upset her.
I’m glad you are happy.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Get some black hair dye. Duh. An anxious nation awaits the answer.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: I am in a good enough mood that I will even give you your music. Here.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
die.
no, I mean dye.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: I do it tomorrow or Wednesday(Thursday is piercing day). Too late tonight. Want to go a bit gothy.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
all. I ever asked.
Little Boots
and why are you in a good mood?
that is very suspicious.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: You know where that band’s name comes from?
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Not really your concern. No offense intended. Seriously. I just am.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
okay, not prying.
I am of course happy for you.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: Let it Be.
NotMax
@BillinGlendale
Experience has taught that it’s a heckuva lot easier to just trim the nose hairs.
;)
VFX Lurker
Film composer James Horner has passed away at age 61.
Those unfamiliar with his name may have heard his music in films like Aliens. Every other action film trailer uses a snippet of “Bishop’s Countdown.”
BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: I normally dye it dark brown at madame’s insistence.
ETA: I have a blister on my right ankle, so no walking tonight. :(
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
nice. very nice, and I try to.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Cool. We’re good.
NotMax
By the bye, neglected to say Happy Summer.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
good, and actually, really happy for you. whatever is going on. I have guesses, but I will not guess here.
BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: How would you know the difference over on your rock? Happy Summer anyways.
AxelFoley
@ruemara:
Exactly.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Thank you. And have this.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
I will repeat myself from the other night. 10cc also did “Dreadlock Holiday,” my favorite song by them. One of the members, Graham Gouldman, was a songwriting machine in the ’60s who wrote a number of big hits for many groups. I think I linked to the Yardbirds’ “Heart Full of Soul” previously. Here’s a rare live version of the Hollies’ “Look Through Any Window.” (Graham Nash on white guitar at 1:15.) Bonus: German proto-hipsters.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
showoff.
NotMax
@BillinGlendale
Hot stuff.
opiejeanne
@Little Boots: Hiya, Little Boots.
Little Boots
@opiejeanne:
hey, we are having an interesting night.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Dreadlock Holiday is a far better song than the one I posted. But I posted mine for a reason.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
you know I’m a sucker for hippie BS. I hate and love you.
Steeplejack
The Hollies, “Yes, I Will,” alternate (better) take. Not written by Graham Gouldman, but I got off on a Hollies tangent. An underrated ’60s group. (Crunchy guitar solo at 1:40 and in the background et seq.).
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yeah, I know—the L.B. factor. LOL. I’m with you, brah.
NotMax
@BillinGlendale
Also too, those days of soda and pretzels and beer.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: From my childhood… Here.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
sweet.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
The Hollies? Gotta link to >Bus Stop, then.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: This is a song from my childhood. Probably the first pop song I ever heard.
ETA: The kids across the street and I used to sing it while my mom drove us to church. I don’t think she knew who the band was(The Beatles were associated with long hair and drugs in my house at the time).
David Koch
@ruemara:
What unearthed comments?
Little Boots
brah-ing, the most lovely thing in history.
Steeplejack
The Hollies, “Pay You Back with Interest.”
Damn, they were good. Laid the groundwork for all those power-pop-ballad groups like—did someone mention the Raspberries?
The Hollies again: “I Can’t Let Go.”
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
I was acceptable in 3. Did learn how to put together a nice string that would maybe be 20% non swear. Makes me an amateur for sure. But then I only got to E5 and there is a reason that’s called second class in the navy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: “Please, Go All the Way” is my ringtone for madame.
piratedan
@NotMax:
one of my favorites… I always think of my wife when I play this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVJ0jGC_0tU
piratedan
@Steeplejack: gawd those guys were some awesome, just a shame that they were never bigger. Not as tragic as Badfinger but they were either just ahead or just behind their time, can’t quite decide which.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I do believe we are.
piratedan
@BillinGlendaleCA: quite possibly the best pop rock intro of all time… and those guys could harmonize, it was simply awesome.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: fantastic
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
Doubtless there were others in the years prior which are unremembered, but this is the first pop tune to which I can recall paying attention.
opiejeanne
@Little Boots: For you: https://youtu.be/xF77Y1JLScc
Steeplejack
Linda Ronstadt covered “I Can’t Let Go.”
But here’s a better performance from her: “Someone to Lay Down Beside Me.”
piratedan
and since we’re on a summer theme and someone brought up the Raspberries….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbvC1SBwygo
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
oh, you’re still friggin awesome.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
A special song for a special lady. Love the crunchy guitar, especially at 1:40.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: Well, I spent my time in the army being posh and meeting German aristocrats. The character of our service is/was so different as to be unrecognizable.
Little Boots
Linda Ronstadt. wow.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
suddenly picture you with monocles and Prussians.
Steeplejack
@piratedan:
Another great one. (Guitar solo at 1:30!)
This is why I say that, when you add up all the hits they had, the Hollies are tremendously underrated in memory. Much like the Animals.
Did I say Animals? Oh, hell, yeah. “Don’t Bring Me Down.” And this ain’t lip-synced.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Bad, bad memories of jousting with the demanding diva Ronstadt while I was working part-time for a record company when was in college forever soured me on her.
Little Boots
@NotMax:
wow. heard she was a bit of a diva.
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
I find this to be true of many of my fellow vets. There are millions of stories, some of them I’m sure are true.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Oddly, I would do well with a monocle. My right eye is so much worse than my left.
BillinGlendaleCA
Do Ya(not ELO).
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: Wait, you don’t already have a monocle?
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
he does post monocle-ish.
dogwood
People speaking of the Raspberries, made me think of The Cranberries and reading awhile back that Dolores O’Rierdon flipped out on a flight from NYC to Dublin, was arrested, and eventually ended up in a psych ward. A terribly sad story.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: I really meant to distance my service, which was what I was asked to do and was rather good at, from yours
BillinGlendaleCA
Looks like another southern CA city has been punked by the Raiders.
piratedan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XboE3_7KZ3Y
since we were talking about underrated bands, here’s another nominee
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Sorry to disappoint, Old Bean.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
Ha! Here’s one I’ve been saving especially for Little Boots: Chic, “I Want Your Love.”
Little Boots
@dogwood:
that is really sad.
Steeplejack
@piratedan:
NRBQ, “Ridin’ in My Car.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: off hand, are you on the book of faces?
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
That triggered recall of how Charles Coburn signed in when he was the mystery guest on What’s My Line? (first 10 seconds or so of the video).
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
LOL.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Bummer, dude.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Dude, link fail. You fix.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
no, still pissed.
kind of like chic.
Steeplejack
@dogwood:
Another bummer.
Sometimes I look up supporting actors I see in old movies or TV shows on IMDB, and quite often you get the saddest and/or weirdest stories.
opiejeanne
@Little Boots: things are definitely happening.
Little Boots
@opiejeanne:
they are indeed.
Omnes Omnibus
@opiejeanne: Such as?
piratedan
now this is something that I’m not sure that any of you guys may have ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmO77nNRqZE
one of the “legendary” formative bands in North Carolina, spawned Don Dixon, the db’s and the Spongetones
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRvumUxMMI
opiejeanne
@BillinGlendaleCA: A song from my misspent youth:
https://youtu.be/qhYLz63csS0
Steeplejack
@piratedan:
Oh, hell, yes. And “Mendocino,” too. I lived in Texas at the time of “She’s About a Mover,” and they were big there.
. . . Holy shnikeys! Your mention of Sir Doug made me look up another Texas band from back then, the Playboys of Edinburg. And of course YouTube knows all, sees all. “Look at Me, Girl.” Bonus: genuinely good go-go dancers (not from this song, though). Seriously, I probably have not heard this song in almost 50 years. Damn.
Little Boots
look at this place, coming alive.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: That’s the song that got me in trouble.
dogwood
@Little Boots:
Yeah, I ended up following links to the Irish press which covered the story extensively. She auditioned for the band when she was a teenager, got the job, and they were in instant success which can be as much curse as blessing. She was going thru a divorce after 20+ years of marriage and has several still fairly young children. There was talk of dealing with issues of abuse during childhood. A very fragile woman, but an Irish icon nonetheless.
Little Boots
@dogwood:
damn, that is really sad. sorry about that. loved her music.
NotMax
@opiejeanne
Strange Things Are Happening?
(Another performer purportedly notoriously temperamental and difficult to work with.)
piratedan
@Steeplejack: Steeple, tyvm (NRBQ) for that and ty Bill for the pre-ELO Jeff Lynne original take on Do Ya, which was my favorite song from New World Record
Little Boots
@NotMax:
wow, different. very cool.
opiejeanne
@BillinGlendaleCA: This is my ringtone for my husband: https://youtu.be/Gbbsh01o8oE
It gets me some looks when it rings around other people.
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
I was good at what I was asked to do as well. But I was no officer and am barely a gentleman. So we were separated pretty much by shear chance.
Steeplejack
And for the hat trick, another great ’60s Texas party band: Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs, “Woolly Bully.”
Little Boots
but the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rEsVp5tiDQ
piratedan
@Steeplejack: Steeple that Playboys of Edinburgh was a cool garage sound, and I have to admit, the go-go dancers were trippy. Guess a lot of lads were busy trying to imitate that British feel and just goes to show that some guys will do anything to get laid ;-)
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
LOL. Which one? Those are three great “getting in trouble” songs.
BillinGlendaleCA
@piratedan: Another song you’ve heard before, but here’s the original.
opiejeanne
@NotMax: I remember the Perry Como version of that, as well as this: https://youtu.be/U08iKG4tfFE?list=PL4T3qYYqE772-2fbMM20jqdbluK4mNC46
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
uh, huh.
piratedan
and I drank a LOT of beer to this song after witnessing the young lady I was supposedly dating performing a tonsilectomy on another young man….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw76DZDkoK8
Little Boots
@Ruckus:
he is occasionally a gentleman.
BillinGlendaleCA
@opiejeanne: My ringtone on madame’s phone.
opiejeanne
@Little Boots: I saw her open for Neil Diamond in 1970. She was a nervous wreck but when she sang she was fine. He was hilarious.
piratedan
@BillinGlendaleCA: have that bad boy on the vinyl Bill. It’s tragic that the people responsible for the deaths of Pete Ham and Tom Evans never were made to pay for their crimes.
These guys could write from the heart and their musicianship was top rate
opiejeanne
@BillinGlendaleCA: Oh, do tell!
Little Boots
@opiejeanne:
amazing voice, once upon a time.
heard she was a bit nuts, but gossip is gossip, and often bullshit.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: From everything I have found out about you here, you are a complete gentleman.
Origuy
Once again, I’m plugging my friend Catherine’s Indiegogo project, An Irish-Mexican Musical Fusion Album. She’s lined up a talented group of musicians from both the Mexican and Irish traditions.
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHEH1Kld7p8
Linda R. Tracks of My Tears
BillinGlendaleCA
@BillinGlendaleCA: The kid’s ringtone on my phone.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
as are you. you piss me off, ten times a month, but I that does not mean you aren’t a gentleman.
piratedan
okay, rack time for moi, ty all for the tunage and the sharing….
BillinGlendaleCA
@opiejeanne: The Raiders and the Chargers were supposed to present their proposals for the NFL about their “move” to Carson at a big meeting today. The Raiders didn’t show.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
God, one of my worst concert experiences. Mid-’70s, Mobile, Alabama. Ronstadt opening for Neil Young. I was really looking forward to seeing her, but the yahoos were so hot for Neil that they pretty much booed her off the stage after three or four songs. Ugh.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
From almost the same time, who could forget a certain cover of Wild Thing?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: On my walk today I noticed that America is performing at the Alex theater here in town on Saturday.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: Ha! They were good. My post was influenced by the drag show that our daughters took us to for Father’s Day. And of course they played this:
https://youtu.be/CbGKeyCywTY
Little Boots
maybe amazing voice, but amazing song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCElUItrLZc
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: that was good.
this is the first pop song I think I heard, unless you count Jimmy Dean’s Big John, which they played relentlessly on the radio station that played rock and roll.
https://youtu.be/CbGKeyCywTY
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Ronstadt has done so many great covers. “Hurt So Bad.”
Steeplejack
@piratedan:
Thanks for (indirectly) bouncing me to the Playboys of Edinburg. Didn’t see that coming.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
she is amazing.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Oh, jeez.
NotMax
@opiejeanne
Como was one of the nicest, most personable people with whom I’ve ever had the pleasure of crossing paths.
And generous to a fault, shunning any publicity for his good works.
Little Boots
we need something. something different. not sure what. but something different.
BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: This guy?
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Heh. In wan defense, it was a bona fide hit.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: OK, I’ll put black nail polish on. Different enough?
Little Boots
and everyone can yell at me, but there is a big problem here. we need to take a big shift. this country is not working.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
no it is not. I think more is needed.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: I could be worse.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: Well, I’m already going to dye my hair.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
would ya?
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
God, they’re all 80 years old now, aren’t they? Actually, I’d better watch it, because they’re probably close to my age. Ahem.
I was in college when “A Horse with No Name” came out, and for the first week or so I assumed it was Neil Young. So then it became “A Horse with No Neil.”
They had some great stuff, though. “Donkey Jaw.”
Which always makes me think of the Eagles’ “Bitter Creek.”
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: movement on the flag issue was what first came to mind.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
neil? neil? i posted neil. dammit.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
I think you’ve got a bad link there. You must have heard something long before Donna Summer. Heh.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: Probably more like late 60’s. Interesting trivia; their greatest hits(History) album’s cover was designed by Phil Hartman(he was a graphic artist before comedy).
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
I thought you just meant the music tonight.
Little Boots
steeplejack, you are the most annoying goober tonight.
you get bojangles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LVXR6rjXs
NotMax
@Little Boots
All righty, then. One can hear the immense talent ooze from her lips.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
don’t start with me.
opiejeanne
@Little Boots: He was! I got to see him live in a small club when I was 15. It was an amazing show.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: I’ve dyed my hair for years, madame decreed it.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: The Raspberries’ Please Go All the Way.
Still married to him, too.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
bout time.
wait, madame?
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Another song I associate with that time, from a forgotten group: the James Gang, “Midnight Man.” (Joe Walsh on guitar.)
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: Madame BillinGlendaleCA(aka SookinGlendaleCA).
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Not a great one, though. Sorry. How about this: “Flying on the Ground Is Wrong.”
Amir Khalid
@Little Boots:
From Malay pop legends the Alleycats, Hingga Akhir Nanti.
opiejeanne
@BillinGlendaleCA: Oooh! My daughters’ ringtone is a quacking duck, for both of them.
Little Boots
@Amir Khalid:
amir, goddammit, you have been, oh, never mind, it’s okay.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
LOL. So it worked out for everybody.
Aleta
Roy Orbison Blue Bayou
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
All right! Now the night is complete.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
well fine.
NotMax
1:45 a.m. Wednesday on TCM: O Lucky Man!. Lindsay Anderson and Malcolm McDowell’s three hour paean to self-indulgent moviemaking.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: Reminds me of the Korean stuff my wife watches on the TV machine.
I saw Alleycats and I thought of The Alley Cats.
Steeplejack
And to think I was sort of morosely listening to jazz before this all broke out. I love you, Balloon Juice.
Let me bridge the gap with some Brasil ’66.
ETA: Those are some big fucking earrings.
opiejeanne
Steeplejack: My crowd at the Anaheim Convention Center (so saith my half-asleep husband, but I thought it was at the Forum) was much more polite. Most of them didn’t recognize her, though. They probably knew who the Stone Poneys (sic) were but had forgotten that it was billed as Linda Ronstadt and the…. The applause was tepid at first but improved by the third song, if I recall correctly. She fidgeted and said “um” a lot between songs, but when she sang she was a different person. I can’t remember what she did sing at that concert, though. I remember a lot of Neil’s pieces including “Things go better with Coca Cola..”
Little Boots
the important thing is, there are Malay pop legends.
Aleta
I’d like to mention Laos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLenQsEriZA
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
it’s the best, and the worst, and best, and most annoying.
although they love you.
Steeplejack
Brasil ’66, “Fool on the Hill.”
Another jazzy vocal group: the Fifth Dimension, “California Soul.”
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: Ha! That is the version they used yesterday at the brunch at Julia’s. Some photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/snowwhite/
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: My parents just knew it was caused by that awful rock and roll we all listened to.
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Those are some hot Laotian chicks! Just sayin’.
Little Boots
@Little Boots:
as they should.
opiejeanne
Good night. I may be called on to drive long distances tomorrow and my DH has set the alarm for 7am, for no good reason at all.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
What I meant was check your link up above. You said it’s the first pop song you remember, but it’s the same Donna Summer “Bad Girls” link. I know you’re older than that!
Aleta
There are amazing things going on here with rhythm that I don’t understand how. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHW1DidXFM
And especially these two musicians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0l1w6i8-dg
Little Boots
or not.
Steeplejack
@opiejeanne:
You’ve given me the perfect segue. I was going to go from the Fifth Dimension to Laura Nyro, because they did a lot of her songs, but you mentioned the Forum, and that reminded me that Three Dog Night did a great live album from there. And they did a killer version of Laura Nyro’s “Eli’s Coming.”
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
and … perfect.
Little Boots
even in an L.B. way.
Aleta
I discovered that this goes along well with almost any music.
http://popeyeloops.tumblr.com/post/103118571229
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
I’m still here, but I’m fading. Maybe out in a few minutes. Summoning the strength for one last song. Maybe bring it back home to Chic with this: Jody Watley, “Don’t You Wnat Me.”
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
LOL. Can you dig it? I know that you can.
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Olive Oyl was one hot chick too. Just sayin’.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
I think fading is a good idea, actually.
good night.
BillinGlendaleCA
Found the black nail polish.
ETA: Senator Franken was good on TDS.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
oh good night, buddy.
BillinGlendaleCA
nite, nite; LB
Aleta
I spent a long time trying to find something (say Stone Ponys/related ilk) as good as the Hollies but nothing.
Steeplejack
FYWP! Too many links. Reposted.
Oh, hell, I could spiral down into a whole ’80s diva thing. Neneh Cherry, “Buffalo Stance.”
Pebbles, “Mercedes Boy.”
Pretty Poison, “Catch Me (I’m Falling).”
ETA: Why was I replying to myself anyway?! I blame the gin.
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Here’s what came to mind: We Five, “You Were on My Mind.” Maybe a little early, but good.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: youtube might have even more hot chicks than it does great music … but no, not possible
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Smith, “Baby, It’s You.”
Steeplejack
Spanky and Our Gang, “Like to Get to Know You.”
NotMax
@Steeplejack
? and the Mysterians, 96 Tears.
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Also, hard to beat the Hollies.
Some late Byrds, if you liked “Everybody’s Been Burned” the other night: “Ballad of Easy Rider.”
Which leads to Gordon Lightfoot, “Apology.”
Aleta
@Steeplejack: this is a nice version, I never heard
(Going on 4 things posted, I thought, that won’t show.)
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Awesome song. One of my all-time favorites.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: that’s the ticket
3 things I posted never showed up.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: yes, beautiful
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Okay, wind-swept Canadian prairies, and maybe I’m out: Judy Collins, “Someday Soon.”
Aleta
@NotMax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3kZEjD3Gr8
Steeplejack
More Lightfoot: “Beautiful.”
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack:
I was thinking of this.
ETA: Hard to type, fingernails drying.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: Nothing better than that song. She’s singing the end of this week in CA (Kate Wolf festival. Smokey Robinson, too.) I thought seriously about it.
Steeplejack
I like the steel guitar. Buffalo Springfield, “Kind Woman.”
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Another all-time favorite!
Aleta
@Steeplejack: This goes with that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_WnenkkfM8
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
You are a well-known Kink-hound.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
LOL. Problems of the modern age.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: Hehe. I blame my roommate of 3 years in college and Obama(of course).
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Okey dokey, then, Joan Baez
NotMax
Bad linky. Good linky.
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Awesome. Another great Lightfoot song.
Jesus. PP&M are impeccable.
ETA: Seriously, that brought me to tears. You hit it out of the park.
Steeplejack
Lightfoot, “I’m Not Sayin’.”
John Hartford and Glen Campbell, “Gentle on My Mind.”
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
You changed the link! PP&M was much better than Dylan.
Aleta
@BillinGlendaleCA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LSSgQMc2E
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
God, your link-fu sucks! You fix!
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Written by Graham Gouldman. Just sayin’.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: yeah, they do exquisite spots right on top of the beauty. Dylan’s has a kind if motion like waving grass.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
See #301.
(On the phone, so only half paying attention.)
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Seriously, I cannot let that Dylan switch stand. The PP&M version is much better.
But Dylan is an awesome songwriter. “My Back Pages,” all-star lineup.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: how is it that the later in the early morning it becomes, the more unruly my comment intentions become at turning real?
Aleta
@Steeplejack: I lost another comment, this one to do with losing comments.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: Dylan, eh? Zimmerman and some of his friends doing the Wilbury Twist.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Okay, got it. And Balloon Juice demands your full attention, damn it!
BillinGlendaleCA
Not the Kinks, but close.
ETA: Nail polish is finally dry. Two coats, what I do for fashion.
Aleta
@Steeplejack: To me, it’s Kink-like.
Steeplejack
Going out on an inexplicable reggae bit. But it feels right. Mikey Spice, “Alli Alli Ho.”
Nighty-night, all.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Okay, how about Baez covering Dylan?
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I feel good knowing I’m leaving things in your capable, lacquered hands.
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNuQPTzuof4
Heart Full of Soul
Their motion is great, even if not the best quality sound.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
I’ll take almost anybody covering Dylan. As a singer, he’s a great songwriter. One exception: “Lay, Lady, Lay.”
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
I was the only guy in a three-state radius that had all the Yardbirds’ LPs, even the crappy later ones. “Over, Under, Sideways, Down.”
ETA: Ooh, but “Shapes of Things” was good.
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cij1heKaRFA
Dylan covering Charlie Patton w/o admitting to it
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Which reminds me of “Shape of Things to Come.” And, seriously, I’m out.
raven
@Steeplejack:Hot House of Omagarashid!!!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: How about this lad(from Liddypool)?
Steeplejack
@Aleta:
Now you’re just screwing with me. I’m rethinking the whole relationship.
Steeplejack
@raven:
Oh, jeez, I tried to forget that one.
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8vBwt8zw8&list=RDQv8vBwt8zw8#t=8
Time Won’t Let Me
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex2MsgpPafo
Roy Orbison Blue Bayou
Baud
Lots of insomnia tonight.
Aleta
@BillinGlendaleCA: moves the heart
Steeplejack
The Buckinghams, “Don’t You Care.”
Aleta
@Steeplejack: I completely forgot that I hadn’t thought about the electric prunes in a long while
raven
@Steeplejack: Good friend of mine sued them for Jake Holme’s “Dazed and Confused”. They settled.
Zinsky
Good on O’Malley! One of my biggest complaints about Obama is how nice he is to the verminous racists who would rather cut his throat than look at him. Know thine enemies…
raven
@Aleta: Mass in F Minor!
Aleta
@Steeplejack: Funny, I almost put that one up, as well as Shapes of Things before that.
Aleta
@raven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpV2CnJUa0E
Get Me to the World on Time
Eric Nny
Wow, you guys were busy last night.
Steeplejack (phone)
@raven:
“Get Me to the World on Time.“
BillinGlendaleCA
@Eric Nny: I blame Obama.
Steeplejack (phone)
Fever Tree.
Aleta
@Steeplejack (phone): That’s good. ( A relief to override a dull impulse toward Spanky & Gang or the Animals.)
raven
@Aleta: Walls move, minds do too. . .
Aleta
@Steeplejack (phone): That’s actually a very beautiful song.
Aleta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeBNMwDlz7Y
John Paul Jones
Kathleen
@NotMax: My dad was in broadcasting for 60 years and met most of the big names between the early 50’s and the late 60’s. His attitude towards celebs he met ranged to “meh” to “bleh”, but he said Perry Como was one of the nicest people he ever met, along with country legend Jim Reeves and Lawrence Welk.
Aleta
@piratedan: thanks, I like it much
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: They used that in Lincoln Lawyer.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: OH! You’re right. It was supposed to be the Perry Como song that I posted, that I thought of as pop. And yes, I’m 65.
opiejeanne
@Steeplejack: I have that album. Their version of Susanne is really good, too.
opiejeanne
@NotMax: I saw her at the Forum when I was 18.