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The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Bark louder, little dog.

That meeting sounds like a shotgun wedding between a shitshow and a clusterfuck.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

The world has changed, and neither one recognizes it.

So many bastards, so little time.

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Every decision we make has lots of baggage with it, known or unknown.

These are not very smart people, and things got out of hand.

You would normally have to try pretty hard to self-incriminate this badly.

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He’s got big balls and she’s got big balls

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I agree with Steve M. that this reduces conservatism to its true essence:

Rich Lowry told Megyn Kelly that the reason Trump is going after Carly Fiorina is that ‘she cut his balls off with the precision of a surgeon‘ in the last debate and thus she has become a much bigger target for Trump to take aim at.

That’s what it’s all about: quien es mas macho?

Update. This email a reader sent young Conor is amazing:

Trump fights. Trump wins. I want an Alpha Male who is going to take it to the enemy. I am tired of supporting losers. I used to vote for President based on their positions. Now I am going to vote for President based on emotion. I want a strong man to be president, an Alpha male, somebody who is going to rip the other side a new one. I am tired of losing the fight before we even have a fight. That is why I support Donald Trump. Ted Cruz is my second choice. Never Jeb!

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    No likeable characters in that story.

    When your entirely ideology is based on privilege, it’s critical to be the top dog.

  3. 3.

    Amir Khalid

    This isn’t presidential politics. This is a schoolyard free-for-all.

    I love the Australian music reference.

  5. 5.

    sm*t cl*de

    she cut his balls off […] and thus she has become a much bigger target

    I don’t understand. Did she swallow them or something, causing her to swell up like Violet Beauregarde?

  6. 6.

    beltane

    I can’t believe people like Fiorina and Trump are even serious contenders for the presidency. At this rate, the 2020 Republican field may feature a few animated characters in the mix.

  8. 8.

    beltane

    The way Rich Lowry words this makes me think of that Gawker piece about the fatal threesome at Yale involving Young Conservatives.

  19. 19.

    Elizabelle

    Listening to C-Span. Only congresscritter who’s announced he’s boycotting the Pope’s speech remains Paul Gosar, the Jesuit-educated dentist with self-proclaimed critical thinking skills.

    Do you think Gosar will pay an electoral price? It was a pretty shabby stunt. Yes, he’s from Arizona, but how well will his snub go over? Arizona’s not all Arpaiao fanbois. Lot of retirees from other places.

  20. 20.

    Elizabelle

    @Doug!: That may just mean: scrutinize the other comments!

    Some of them may be parody. How is a clickbait journalist to tell?

    PS: appears Andrew Sullivan may be writing the occasional post for The Atlantic. Think I saw his byline while scrolling through for a Fallows item …

    PPS: Good morning all!

  22. 22.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    (I have 3 degrees – B.A., Ed. M., M.A.).

    When Barack Obama was elected, I cried for the country. We were doomed. I was not a McCain supporter but I voted for him anyway. I have been holding my nose and voting Republican for the past 40 plus years. George H.W. Bush lied to us when he said he wouldn’t raise taxes. Bill Clinton lied to us when he said that he didn’t have sex with that woman, and in the OVAL OFFICE of all places – that’s my House, not his house.

    My god is that hilarious. He claims to be educated all his arguments are based on feelings with no examples.

  23. 23.

    gene108

    @beltane:

    At this rate, the 2020 Republican field may feature a few animated characters in the mix.

    Animated characters no. Zombie Reagan Yes.

    Edit: If Republicans are going to run undead Reagan, I think they will bring him back as a Lich or Vampire.

  25. 25.

    JPL

    @beltane: I’m glad that you said almost.. His son George is next in line so the Bushes will be around for a long, long, time.

    @WereBear: We need a warning on this site… Put down you coffee before reading this.

  26. 26.

    Booger

    Yeah, also, the whole “Alpha male” thing has been pretty much discredited, IIRC. In the wild, wolves are cooperative and matriarchal; the “alpha” bullshit came from studying wolves in captivity. Ergo, wolves in the wild are more rational than we are as an electorate.

  28. 28.

    Morzer

    @Booger:

    The scientist who originally came up with the theory has said that it’s completely wrong, which ought to have been enough. I suspect we have Hollywood to blame for its persistence.

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    @beltane: The Guardian’s photographs are stunning.

    Gorgeous weather for the Pope. He’s out shaking hands, I guess near the Vatican consulate.

    Since it’s pretty much across the street from the VP’s residence, I wonder if Pope Francis has met personally with VP and Dr. Biden? Maybe not, but it would be so comforting, I would think.

  30. 30.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Booger:

    Yeah, also, the whole “Alpha male” thing has been pretty much discredited, IIRC. In the wild, wolves are cooperative and matriarchal; the “alpha” bullshit came from studying wolves in captivity. Ergo, wolves in the wild are more rational than we are as an electorate.

    It’s also weird when you watch “alpha males” among humans – the family patriarch is the reliable male everyone is listening to and expecting to solve their problems, not punch the rest of the family in the face.

  31. 31.

    rikyrah

    Latest FOX GOP Poll:

    1. Donald Trump: 26% (up one point from last month)
    2. Ben Carson: 18% (up six points)
    3. Carly Fiorina: 9% (up four points)
    3. Marco Rubio: 9% (up five points)
    5. Ted Cruz: 8% (down two points)
    6. Jeb Bush: 7% (down two points)
    7. Chris Christie: 5% (up two points)
    8. John Kasich: 4% (unchanged)
    9. Mike Huckabee: 3% (down three points)
    10. Rand Paul: 2% (down one point)
    11. George Pataki: 1% (unchanged)

    msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/two-new-national-polls-donald-trump-still-leads-gop-pack

  32. 32.

    gene108

    For whatever his faults, Trump’s turned the huge pile of cash he inherited into YOOOGER and Classier piles of cash; plus cranking out a smoking hot daughter, while Carly’s run two large businesses – Lucent and HP – into the ground.

    If you want a CEO President, it’s Donald or bust.

  34. 34.

    SRW1

    Makes one sort of wonder what William F. B Jr would have made of the intellectual heft of his successor.

  35. 35.

    Jeffro

    @rikyrah: No Gilmore? As long as he stays in the race, I think news organizations should be required to poll him and Mrs. Gilmore, then do the math and post his % of support.

    (LOL – if the .0002% support drops to .0001% support, he’ll know he has lost Mrs. Gilmore and better come on home!)

    I guess they will need to do this for Jindal, Santorum, and Graham too.

  36. 36.

    MattF

    @gene108: Last week, on my vacation in NYC, we drove along the West Side Highway several times, getting a view of Trump’s, um, erections on the West Side facing the Hudson. FWIW, they’re basically housing projects for the oligarchy.

  42. 42.

    IanY77

    I think the next Republican debate should be just a giant roshambo contest. Hugh Hewitt and Trump kick each other in the balls, while Marco Rubio kicks Chris Wallace in the balls. Lindsay Graham runs in circle while flapping his hands and shrieks about ISIS agents outside the viewers windows. Fiorina, of course, is exempt, so she just kicks Lindsey in the balls and then tells people she got the idea from the Planned Parenthood videos, and oh by the way, Hillary’s a total b***h.

    I’d watch.

  43. 43.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Morzer:

    I suspect we have Hollywood to blame for its persistence.

    It’s A Thing among pickup artists and men’s-rights-ers too, innit?

  44. 44.

    PaulW

    re-read that email where the voter proudly admits to vote purely on emotion. This is actually how our electoral system has worked over the years. We think we vote on the issues, but we really – and yes, both sides do it – vote on our passions.

    I kept the book “The Selling of the President” about the 1968 campaign with Nixon, and it’s a short book but it nails exactly how the parties sell their elections to “buy” the voters’ interest and support. In particular, there’s a passage where the head of Nixon’s marketing campaign revealed that in the modern age of immediate messaging, emotions meant more than facts.

    The passage from my blog article:

    It was Treleaven, working on a 1966 Congressional campaign in Texas for this businessman named George HW Bush, who noted that “logical persuasion” was difficult to sell because he found “probably more people vote for irrational, emotional reasons than professional politicians suspect.” (p.45) He found that image worked wonders, as long as he presented Bush as likable, hard-working, and expressing empathy for the voter. Bush won in heavily-leaning conservative Democratic Texas beating the incumbent 58 percent to 42, an unheard-of victory margin in that day and age (and even remarkable in this one where incumbents are even harder to defeat).
    It’s in these revelations that McGinniss details the shift in political science away from the logical to the emotional. In some ways, politics had always been emotional and partisan. But previous campaigns there were serious issues that had to be debated seriously. The new method, due to television requiring an expressive empathic presence, needed to rely on emotional impact more than ever…

    We are now at the point where the Republicans are driven entirely by emotional gratification than genuine policy or thoughtful planning. This still makes them – and Trump – very dangerous. There is no guarantee that a passion-driven campaign will implode when needed. It may well explode, and take way too many innocents with it.

  45. 45.

    Cervantes

    @Glidwrith:

    Here’s an excerpt from David Mech’s “Alpha Status, Dominance, and Division of Labor in Wolf Packs,” Canadian Journal of Zoology, 77:1196-1203 (2000):

    “Alpha” connotes top ranking in some kind of hierarchy, so an alpha wolf is by definition the top-ranking wolf. Because among wolves in captivity the hierarchies are genderbased, there are an alpha male and an alpha female (Schenkel 1947). The way in which alpha status has been viewed historically can be seen in studies in which an attempt is made to distinguish future alphas in litters of captive wolf pups. For example, it was hypothesized that “the emotional reactivity of the dominant cub, the potential alpha animal (emphasis mine) of the pack, might be measurably different from the subordinate individuals,” and that “it might then be possible to pick out the temperament characteristics or emotional reactivity of potential alpha or leader wolves (emphasis mine), and of subordinates” (Fox 1971b, p.299). Furthermore, “Under normal field conditions, it seems improbable that timid, low ranking wolves would breed” (Fox 1971a, p.307). This view implies that rank is innate or formed early, and that some wolves are destined to rule the pack, while others are not. Contrary to this view, I propose that all young wolves are potential breeders and that when they do breed they automatically become alphas (Mech 1970). Even in captive packs, individuals gain or lose alpha status (Zimen 1976), so individual wolves do not have an inherent permanent social status, even though captive pups show physiological and behavioral differences related to current social rank (Fox 1971b; Fox and Andrews 1973).

    You can download the full paper.

  46. 46.

    Chyron HR

    @rikyrah:

    1. Donald Trump: 26% (up one point from last month)
    6. Jeb Bush: 7% (down two points)

    The Summer of Trump is over!

    JEB! is deliberately dropping in the polls to give himself room for an Amazing Comeback!

    THE GREAT CLEANSING OF AMERICA IS IMMINENT!

  50. 50.

    boatboy_srq

    @JPL: There should at least be a place we can donate to the Balloon Juice Keyboard Replacement Fund…

    @beltane: We keep looking for common decency and politesse in our leaders. We keep failing to find it. This – especially now that the wingnut Xtian Id runs the GOTea – is at all surprising?

    ETA: politicking has never been a game for the polite, but you’d think that at some point behaving like a douchenozzle would cost people…

  51. 51.

    beltane

    @efgoldman: If Pope Francis publicly called out Justice Scalia I think I would die a happy woman. In any case, those three (Scalia, Alito, and Thomas I’m guessing) are cowards, cafeteria Catholics who only seem to put hate on their trays.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    I keep wondering if Steven Colbert will meet with the Pope at some point, perhaps privately. He is Catholic faith in action.

    From rawstory:

    Stephen Colbert has a request for Pope Francis during his visit this week: We can’t address inequality as long as there is so much money in politics.

    In an interview with Catholic media outlet Salt and Light, the “Late Show” host joked about his superPAC, which he launched during his gag presidential run in 2008, and challenged interviewer Sebastian Gomes to find out where the money went.

    Gomes asked Colbert what he thinks the message is that Congress most needs to hear when Pope Francis addresses a joint session.

    “The corrupting influence of money in politics because it reinforces not looking out for the poorest or the least of my brothers,” Colbert responded. “I think that’s the one they need to hear the most because until you can control the money you won’t control the message of Congress, and so you won’t get action from Congress that looks out for average people.”

    He also discussed the need to prevent religion from being associated with a political party.

    “It’s perceived of in the United States that the right is the more Christian party,” Colbert said. “But in any given election, if the right doesn’t do well, well did Christ not do well? You’ve poured that infection of competition into the eternal world of the Gospel.”

    I think the Colbert-Francis meeting should take place for Pope Francis’s sake. He needs some comic relief from the gasbags he’s had to meet with in previous days.

  55. 55.

    rikyrah

    They were always forward thinking.

    ………………

    Most Of The Radical Ideas The Black Panthers Had Are Now Totally Mainstream

    by Carimah Townes Sep 23, 2015 8:00am

    For decades since their inception in the 1960s, members of the liberation group known as the Black Panthers were labeled thugs and hateful extremists who set out to ruin the U.S. They were considered the antithesis to Martin Luther King Jr. — armed and dangerous. And that’s how many people still remember them today.

    But a new documentary, The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution, dives into the rise and fall of the Panthers’ political agenda, offering a counter-narrative that’s more timely than ever.

    Combining interviews with former members of the party with archival footage of Panther activity, Stanley Nelson’s documentary explores the white supremacy and state-sanctioned police violence that inspired a revolutionary movement — and how that movement redefined black power and pride.

    It talks about the key players — founders Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale, Eldridge Cleaver, one of the most vocal and recognizable Panthers, and women like Elaine Brown and Kathleen Cleaver who switched up traditional gender roles and actually dominated the party. The party created the Ten Point Program, a platform that served as the blueprint for uplifting the black community through job creation and social services.

    The film pulls back the curtain on COINTELPRO, the government-backed FBI campaign initiated by J. Edgar Hoover to destroy the Panthers. By following every move they made (via wire tapping and planting spies in the organization), falsely imprisoning them, and murdering them outright, the counterintelligence program sought “to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize the activities of black nationalist hate-type organizations and groupings.” Hoover, on behalf of the U.S. government, was hellbent on “[preventing] the rise of a messiah who could unify, and electrify, the militant black nationalist movement.”

    The film also hones in on what made the organization famous: the Panthers’ militant approach to fighting systemic racism — and their arsenal of weapons.

    thinkprogress.org/culture/2015/09/23/3704132/how-the-black-panthers-ideology-became-mainstream/

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    @beltane: Scalia is a bad Catholic. He’s a Ratzinger Catholic in a Francis world. Just plain, a bad dude.

    Curious whether John Roberts will attend.

    And don’t you think our Chief Justice feels a twinge of shame, every now and then, when he sees Donald Trump up there? He enabled that manner of politics.

    I wish Trump would start thanking Roberts and Kennedy and the others who voted for Citizens United for making Trump’s path to the primaries that much easier. Speak it, El Donald.

  59. 59.

    Elizabelle

    Can we have a fresh thread when Pope Francis starts his remarks?

    He’s actually got the biggest balls of all, if we are discussing Trump and Fiorina as serious people. But why not give the Pope a spanking new thread?

  61. 61.

    Jeffro

    @rikyrah: Easy prediction: with the news this week that Ta-Nehisi Coates is about to become the new Marvel Comics’ BLACK PANTHER writer and this documentary coming out, expect Glenn Beck to connect dots that aren’t there (Ferguson, the Trump questioner, Pope Francis – why not?, etc) in a flurry of Black Pantherdom related blabber.

    Come on Glenn, we know you can outdo your previous paranoid nonsense, you can do it!

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    CJ John Roberts does appear. Good for him. I see Kennedy too .. Ginsburg. Sotomayor. That’s it? No Scalia? Hmmmmm.

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    No Kagan. No Scalia, Alito or Thomas. I think Justice Kagan attended the Mass yesterday at the Shrine … could be wrong ….

  67. 67.

    David Hopson

    Modern Conservatism/Republicanism is all about the lizard brain – flight or fight, feed or fuck. You could lobotomize the average Republican voter without producing any observable difference – certainly no difference in voting behavior.

  69. 69.

    Elizabelle

    C-Span is awesome. No blathering, unless it’s the principals. Right now, just the buzz of people at a major Congressional address, where they’re locked in and not so far from finishing all that morning coffee …

  76. 76.

    jibeaux

    Fortunately I’m no expert on young, insecure men, but I believe all the alpha male talk is straight out of the PUA (pick up artist)/ MRA (men’s rights activist) handbook, isn’t it? There’s definitely overlapping ideologies there, and that language sounds very much the same. He’s naturally drawn to the candidate who wants to slip something in all of our drinks and show us his huuuugeness.

  79. 79.

    Elizabelle

    talks about Congress’s mission to serve the nation, and the common good. Esp those in greater vulnerability and risk.

  80. 80.

    germy shoemangler

    watching the Pope in congress. I bet the repubs are all silently cursing boehner for inviting him. And he’s sitting there blowing his nose thinking “what the fuck was I thinking?”

  81. 81.

    Elizabelle

    @JPL: I think this may be a big occasion for Boehner, and he knows more than most how badly his clowns in Congress have failed. He may revere the Pope; different type of cat from those in his circles…

  82. 82.

    Elizabelle

    an honest day’s work, to bring home the daily bread, so we are talking of Americans not in the chamber … ppl not concerned simply with paying their taxes !!! but in their own quiet way sustain the life of society…

  85. 85.

    shell

    Damn, that last email….”Trump fights, Trump wins…”

    I was waiting for the music to swell and the writer to break into song!

  88. 88.

    Roger Moore

    @PaulW:

    We are now at the point where the Republicans are driven entirely by emotional gratification than genuine policy or thoughtful planning. This still makes them – and Trump – very dangerous.

    I would say that it’s precisely the emotional gratification angle that makes them so dangerous. The Republicans know how to push their voters’ buttons and get them to vote, and they’ve managed to disconnect that voting from the actual policies they’re advocating. That’s how you get a bunch of people who claim they hate the way the big guy is running all over them to vote for a gang of plutocrats.

  89. 89.

    mattH

    I want a strong man to be president, an Alpha male, somebody who is going to rip the other side a new one. I am tired of losing the fight before we even have a fight.

    I had a lady tell me this about 3 weeks ago. Different wording but the same sentiment. Nice. Old. Little technical know-how. Grew up in a conservative state and I’m sure only supports Republicans, and I’m sure she’s attracted to his grandstanding, bluster, and take-no–shit attitude. Probably mostly the latter. I didn’t have much time to talk to her, but I’m sure she’s representative of large swaths of his supporters.

  90. 90.

    Amir Khalid

    @beltane:
    I can’t imagine a candidacy much more frivolous than Trump’s. Herman Cain’s was a bit more frivolous, but short of Ronald McDonald throwing his hat in the ring I think there’s no more room on the frivolous side.

    Fiorina affects the manner of a serious candidate, and does that well; but she’s a habitual liar, known to be a poor strategist, and not a person who attracts loyalty. Carson affects a serious manner too, but when you listen to him you realise he’s a kook. Gilmore’s campaign motto is “They also serve who only stand and wait.”

    These are my four favourite Republican candidates.

  92. 92.

    FlipYrWhig

    @mattH:

    I’m sure she’s representative of large swaths of his supporters.

    The swath of supporters she represents is… the Republicans. All the same people who liked Sarah Palin like Donald Trump.

  93. 93.

    Chris

    @Elizabelle:

    Gorgeous weather for the Pope. He’s out shaking hands, I guess near the Vatican consulate.

    One of the most longstanding features of that part of Washington DC is a lone protester hanging out in front of the Vatican consulate with a big banner that reads “VATICAN HIDES PEDOPHILES.”

    Apparently, the powers that be managed to have him removed from the area before the Pope’s visit. Which is a shame, because I could actually have seen this Pope treating the man with respect.

  95. 95.

    Jeffro

    @Amir Khalid:

    Gilmore’s campaign motto is “They also serve who only stand and wait.”

    …and wait…and wait….and wait…

    or

    …for the phone to ring. Without a single staffer to answer it.

    Good for ol’ .0002%…way to serve!

  98. 98.

    Paul in KY

    @Elizabelle: Great comments from Mr. Colbert. However, as long as TV ads cost so freaking much money, I don’t see any elimination of money in politics.

  99. 99.

    Mike in NC

    Local letter to the editor praised Trump for several reasons, including that he had “spunk”. Not sure anybody under the age of 80 would use that expression.

  100. 100.

    Elizabelle

    The Pope out waving from the Capitol balcony. It’s a huge enthusiastic crowd, who watched the words on Jumbotron and are blissfully not watching cable news right now.

    Sustained applause and cheers.

  101. 101.

    Elizabelle

    @Paul in KY: I think TV should have to provide free advertising, and no advertising in day or two before the election. Britain is better than us there, I think ….

  105. 105.

    Paul in KY

    @Elizabelle: That would be wonderful. We need a Democratic congress to do that, and then have it survive a Supreme Court challenge. Can be done, but a hard slog.

    One of problems is that those in congress (including Democrats) have the needed money. Their challengers do not.

  106. 106.

    Jeffro

    @FlipYrWhig: I can work with that one from memory. Priest, I would have to play it a few times.

    Pre- and post-debate, I look in the mirror
    You know who I think of (is it i-Carly)?
    Do you tell lies? I’ve been doing it forever
    Do you think twice? Who are you kid-ding?
    Ooh, babe
    Ohh, Jeb!
    When I’m alone, still can’t let go
    Picturing that border wall, it’s not just for show
    Ooh, c’mon
    I don’t wanna disclose too much baby
    ‘Cos policies n’ details drive me crazy
    I know you think that Bush is the one to take it
    But I’m gonna be there come C-town and just might break it
    No?
    Trump bites, Meg bleeds
    I’m bringin’ Reps to their knees
    Trump lives, irony dies
    Hey Reince, surprise!
    Ailes begs, FOX pleads
    It’s what I need…

  108. 108.

    Heliopause

    I used to vote for President based on their positions. Now I am going to vote for President based on emotion. I want a strong man to be president, an Alpha male

    So if we had a candidate with left policy views but the personality of Trump we’d be all set. I wonder how that would go.

    “I’m gonna build 5000 Planned Parenthood clinics. Yuuuuge, classy clinics, one in every town. Everybody gets free pills and condoms and pap smears and abortions and I’ll make the Catholic Church pay for it. You know why? Because I cherish dames.”

    “You know what, income inequality in this country is a disgrace. We’re a total loser at that. China beats us, Japan beats us, the Mexicans beat us, it’s a disgrace. We’re gonna make sure everybody makes a fair wage, we’re gonna make sure the working classes — and by the way, some of my best friends are workers, The Workers love me — we’re gonna make sure that everybody gets a fair shake and the money gets distributed fairly. Day one, boom, done.”

    “The Blacks are totally repressed in this country, it’s a disgrace. The Blacks — and by the way, The Blacks love me — deserve reparations. Yuuuuuge reparations. Day one, you’re black, you get a check. Boom, done.”

    “You know what, The Hispanics are a yuuuuuge part — and by the way, The Hispanics love me — a yuuuuuge part of the fabric of this country. If you’re undocumented but basically a good person, you get a path to citizenship Day One. And c’mon, that Sofia Vergara? Am I right, guys?”

  109. 109.

    The Other Chuck

    @IanY77:

    I think the next Republican debate should be just a giant roshambo contest. Hugh Hewitt and Trump kick each other in the balls, while Marco Rubio kicks Chris Wallace in the balls. Lindsay Graham runs in circle while flapping his hands and shrieks about ISIS agents outside the viewers windows. Fiorina, of course, is exempt, so she just kicks Lindsey in the balls and then tells people she got the idea from the Planned Parenthood videos, and oh by the way, Hillary’s a total b***h.

    So basically, you want a format that’s more rational and thoughtful than what we’re experiencing now.

  110. 110.

    boatboy_srq

    @g: (Dead thread, I know, BUT) Imagine a Governor Issa. In context, the Governator wasn’t all that bad.

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