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Fair elections in North Carolina forthcoming

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This is a state constitutional case and does not rely on federal law. In this way, North Carolina will be like Pennsylvania in how it de-gerrymanders.

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  3. 3.

    Elizabelle

    Watching for how Dorian affects voting in next Tuesday’s special election. Come on, North Carolinians! Come on, Dan McCready!

  5. 5.

    TenguPhule

    The trial court struck down the current state House and state Senate plans and required that new plans be drawn immediately.

    I’m sure the governor will get right on that. //s

  6. 6.

    hueyplong

    Rural, GOP-favoring areas are on the eastern end of the district, closer to the storm. So there’s that.

  7. 7.

    C Stars

    This is a state constitutional case and does not rely on federal law.

    Does this mean the GOP could come up with a mechanism by which the SC re-gerrymanders it?

  8. 8.

    germy

    @schrodingers_cat:

    If you think all this does not affect you, you would be wrong because Hindu Sevak Sangh(HSS), the RSS offshoot in the United States has been propping up Tulsi Gabbard and has chapters all over the US.

    I didn’t know that.

    Gabbard went on Tucker Carlson’s show recently to complain that Democrats are rigging the primary. I wonder if she’ll launch a third party run after she loses the Democratic nomination…

  9. 9.

    geg6

    Oh, excellent. I can tell you that, here in PA, the PA SC saved the commonwealth with that decision. We now have a Dem governor (2 terms!), a future Dem governor in waiting in the lt. gov office, another future Dem star as AG. Now, if we can only somehow take over the legislature (at least one house, please), we may be able to hold our heads up proudly again.

  14. 14.

    Martin

    @john b: May not matter. If the state legislature flips blue, then they can draw new federal maps. They must do it after the 2020 census, but they can also do it at any time. I doubt the House majority will depend on NC districts, so that may be hosed for 2020, but everything else may come together.

    That said, how many times has NCs maps been struck down – not to mention the rampant election fraud in NC-09? I’ll believe it when Dems are seated.

  16. 16.

    JoeyJoeJoe

    @TenguPhule: The Governor, Roy Cooper, is a Democrat, and he’d definitely like fairer maps that don’t give Republicans a super majority in the legislature

  18. 18.

    germy

    Cole on Autumn:

    @Johngcole

    definitive things I like about fall:

    wool socks
    not running the ac
    hockey is closer
    apples

    Everything else is shit. Plants dying, birds leave, leaves drop and become moldy, not sunny, no fresh veg. You people who love fall suck.

  19. 19.

    C Stars

    @germy: Did you see that Jack Dorsey (twitter founder) donated the max individual amount to Gabbard’s campaign? It’s not much (2500 I think) but very interesting some of the supporters she has…

    ETA it was actually 5,600 that Jack personally donated to Gabbard.

  21. 21.

    Fair Economist

    Huzzah! NC is a great pickup opportunity with fair elections. It has one of the nastier Congressional gerrymanders too, so there are national consequences.

  23. 23.

    C Stars

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Ditto, from a fellow Californian.

    Plus, autumn doesn’t actually officially start until Sept. 23, so [Cole should] at least wait until then to start complaining.

  29. 29.

    TenguPhule

    @germy:

    I wonder if she’ll launch a third party run after she loses the Democratic nomination…

    She has promised not to.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    @C Stars:
    We’ll get our first meaningful rain in…[October? November? December?] so it’s hard to pin down fall’s beginning, but the calendar doesn’t provide much insight. I’ll settle for first day I can sit outdoors doing nothing and not break into a sweat.

    Had we had our first meaningful storm any time during or before the first week of November last year, the Camp Fire would have not occurred.

  32. 32.

    TenguPhule

    @germy:

    @Johngcole

    definitive things I like about fall:

    not running the ac

    This must be some version of fall I’m not familiar with.

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @germy: Everything else is shit. Plants dying, birds leave, leaves drop and become moldy, not sunny, no fresh veg. You people who love fall suck.

    Only season I like better than fall is winter

  39. 39.

    PlaneCrazy

    I wear wool socks all year ’round and I live in North Carolina where summer (at least by Northern standards) lasts from March to November. They breath and wick sweat much better than cotton. (Darn Tough socks are the best, made in USA and really live up to their name). Thin low ones for tennis shoes, thicker ones for dress shoes. Wool rocks, baby!

  43. 43.

    Barbara

    @john b:

    this doesn’t affect federal districts. Would that necessarily require federal courts?

    Nope. State legislatures draw districts for federal House seats. The Pennsylvania decision resetting the state’s federal house lines was based on an interpretation of the state’s constitution. There were some Republican state legislators in Pennsylvania who repeatedly tried to make it a federal issue and sought to enjoin the court’s action by going to federal court, but they lost.

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    After reapportionment following the census, the entire exercise will need to be repeated. Count on it.

    /wet blanket

  47. 47.

    germy

    @Yarrow: Don’t they know there’s a good chance they’d be beaten by his supporters in the parking lot of one of his campaign events?

  50. 50.

    germy

    Imagine being so racist & ignorant you can’t distinguish Sikhs from Muslims?

    Now imagine being so compassionate you don’t respond with “Im not Muslim” but instead courageously condemn the racism for what it is✊?

    My immense respect to MP @GurratanSingh❤️pic.twitter.com/0eaDaPIP63

    — Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@QasimRashid) September 3, 2019

    I know this is in Canada, but the situation is sufficiently analogous to the U.S.: the guy with the camera is the kind of person progressives are expected to "reach out to," but how? What are the rational arguments that would persuade someone so totally and willfully uninformed?— ????? ???? ???? ??‍♂️ (@Gayer_Than_Thou) September 3, 2019

  51. 51.

    Roger Moore

    @NotMax:

    After reapportionment following the census, the entire exercise will need to be repeated. Count on it.

    But it will be harder if A) the new map is actually used in 2020 and B) that lets the Democrats take control of at least one house of the state legislature. That’s the key problem with depending on gerrymandering to retain power: once lost it may be very difficult to regain.

  53. 53.

    Jay

    @germy:

    That’s Sikhs.

    Hindus tend not to wear religious/cultural symbols in public.

    And they don’t go to his mini “Trump of the Will” hatefests, they just send money, votes and pro-Indian Hindu Nationalism legislation and proposals.

  58. 58.

    Jay

    @germy:

    The racist in the video is a repeat Nazi offender from Vancouver who has run failed campaigns for office, has Election convictions, and went all that way to get humiliated.

    In other news from the Great White North:

    This is happening: A formal criminal complaint for hate propaganda has been filed with the Ottawa Police Service against Rebel Media and its directors Ezra Levant, Hamish Marshall and Hannah Vanderkooy, as well as Faith Bazos (aka Faith Goldy). https://t.co/KuyFuC3FPt— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) September 3, 2019

  59. 59.

    kindness

    It’s easy for me being from the glorious People’s Republic of California to say Bless Their Hearts to far too many states/areas across this country of ours.

    It’s a Republic, if you can keep it. h/t BF

  60. 60.

    Tim C.

    @TenguPhule: NC is the one trending Purple with definite positive points despite R gerrymandering giving them a super-majority in the legislature.

    SC is too small for a Republic, to large for an insane asylum. (James L. Petigru, 1860)

  61. 61.

    NotMax

    Reading above about socks reminded me to give effusive thanks to whoever it was (and apologies for not remembering the nym) who recommended trying diabetic socks. Bought a pair when in NY (I never wear socks in Hawaii, sandals are the below the calf uniform du jour) and while they did not entirely relieve the discomfort and swelling of ankles and feet that comes with regular socks of any type, there was a significant and noticeable improvement.

  65. 65.

    Jay

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I don’t think he exaggerated her influence, I think he was very clear on how she was trying to use her influence, often unsuccesfully,

    And how she was trying to do so on the down low.

    The article also makes it very clear how dollars from outside a District, for good or bad, impact elections.

    As well as the incestuous nature of a politician piggybacking on what is a Foreign Political Party/Cult.

    And I like long when it brings the receipts. More so these days given the crap status of Journalism.

    Why can David Neiwart manage to write 2500 words on the plight of the Southern Killer Whales, laying it out in full, but CBC can only manage 500 word clickbait stories about the latest death?

  68. 68.

    Baud

    @schrodingers_cat:

    80% South Asians voted for HRC. 

    Is it really that high? That’s better than Latinos, I think.

    Conservative Indians do seem to punch above their weight in terms of media coverage.

  70. 70.

    Chyron HR

    @germy:

    I wonder if [Tulsi will] launch a third party run after she loses the Democratic nomination…

    I don’t see that it matters, she can’t actually swing any votes in the general election other than 4chan trolls, and last time Bernie did most of his damage during what was ostensibly still the primary.

  74. 74.

    TS (the original)

    @Baud:

    Conservatives Indians do seem to punch above their weight in terms of media coverage.

    The right to rule mentality – all over the world.

  76. 76.

    trollhattan

    @Jay:
    Not exactly who I would have expected to hear this news from. “These boots are made for sloshin’.”

  80. 80.

    Jay

    House Democrats told on call today that USMCA talks still ongoing / no timeline for vote.— Erik Wasson (@elwasson) September 3, 2019

    That would be NAFTA 2.0, which apparently isn’t even a writted Trade Deal yet, let alone, signed and ratified.

    Basically all Orangemandious’s Jarvanka managed to achieve so far are letters of intent with Canada and Mexico.

  83. 83.

    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    @Jay: What? You mean Trump and company Talked a big game, did no actual work, overpromised, and now things are falling apart? This has NEVER happened to him before! I’m shocked! Shocked I say! Bring me my fainting couch and pearls Juana! Immediately I say! I fear a bout of the vapors is coming on!!!!!

    (Ripped from the mind of David Brooks)

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