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Some Context for Super Bowl Ads

by $8 blue check mistermix|  February 3, 20202:34 pm| 58 Comments

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If you watched the ads last night, you saw a couple that I thought needed a little more context.

The first one was a Verizon ad, where Chargers head coach Anthony Lynn talked to some of the first responders who helped save his life after a terrible accident. Coach Lynn seems appropriately grateful and I have nothing but respect for all the people who helped save his life, so it’s nice of Verizon to highlight them. But let’s not forget that part of the reason Verizon is running this ad is that Verizon throttled firefighters in California in late Summer 2018.

The other ad is for Mexican Avocados. In the past couple weeks in the state of Michoacán, two workers at a monarch butterfly preserve have been murdered:

Officials in the state of Michoacán said they were unsure if the two deaths were linked – or related to the men’s work in the butterfly reserve. The state has seen a rising tide of violence in recent years, and the region around the monarch butterfly reserve has been rife with illegal logging, despite a ban imposed to protect the monarchs, which winter in the pine- and fir-covered hills.

Some illegal clearcutting is also carried out to allow for the planting of avocado orchards – one of Mexico’s most lucrative crops and an important part of Michoacán’s economy.

The deaths again called attention to the disturbing trend in Mexico of environmental defenders being killed as they come into conflict with developers or local crime groups, who often have political and police protection.

That last story really bugged me. What kind of animal kills people trying to preserve butterflies?

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  1. 1.

    lee

    February 3, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    Verizon started running ads similar to this as soon as the story broke.

    They know exactly how bad it looks.

  2. 2.

    Eural Joiner

    February 3, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    Anyone got any more info on the crossover ad featuring a) Let it Go from Disney, b) Maise Williams from GoT/HBO and c) an Audi? It seemed like a lot of properties sharing screen time and I was wondering if there was something more to it?

  3. 3.

    Emerald

    February 3, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    Actually the National Butterfly Center in Mission, TX, right on the border, has been fighting the border wall for years now. They were specifically declared safe in an actual Act of Congress, but then Orangymandius appropriated his money from the military anyway. A private wingnut group is trying to build a private wall almost next to their property, which, if completed, will destroy the entire ecosystem for miles around, including the butterfly center. There are court rulings, but the latest ruling is hidden. So far the butterfly center has won everything, but wingnut judges are in the area, so no telling how they’re ruling.

    In the past, local officials have gone onto the butterfly center’s property and started clearing plants. The center got court orders to stop it, but these animals enjoy defying those.

    So yeah, butterflies are under attack here too. And the National Butterfly Center is a major stopover for migrating monarchs and other butterflies (and is also a bird preserve).

  4. 4.

    Probably Not an Asshole mistermix

    February 3, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    @Emerald: That’s awful.  Thanks for sharing it.

    @lee: One of the things I hope our nominee does is put some horns and tails on big oligopolies like the cable and cell phone companies.  Correction:  point out the horns and tails on those companies.  That’s the kind of “populism” that hits on a real issue in most people’s lives – being reamed for cell and cable service.

  5. 5.

    Brachiator

    February 3, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    @Emerald:

    Very enlightening context to the story.  Thank you.

  6. 6.

    laura

    February 3, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Profits over people. Same as it ever was.

  7. 7.

    misterpuff

    February 3, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    And Facebook with all its lovely affinity groups that might never have assembled but for FB. Of course, that does not make up for the destabilizing influence as a conduit for propaganda and the unwillingness to police the lies.

  8. 8.

    Brachiator

    February 3, 2020 at 3:05 pm

    @misterpuff:

    And Facebook with all its lovely affinity groups that might never have assembled but for FB.

    This is a function of the Internet, not FaceBook. There were affinity groups in the ancient days under Compuserve and other online services.

  9. 9.

    brantl

    February 3, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    What kind of animal kills people trying to preserve butterflies?

    Homocidal jerkoffs. Next question?

  10. 10.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 3, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    Rick Wilson is a better person than I am. I wouldn’t wish cancer on anyone, but I’m not broken up about it either.

     

    I just heard the news that Rush Limbaugh has advanced lung cancer.I’m going to show you how this should be done:I wish Rush a speedy and complete recovery from his cancer.Human being pro-tip: don’t wish cancer on *anyone*…even on your adversaries.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 3, 2020

  11. 11.

    JGabriel

    February 3, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    [email protected]:

    What kind of animal kills people trying to preserve butterflies?

    A conscienceless real estate developer who wants the land? Wait … was Trump there?

  12. 12.

    Emerald

    February 3, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Rick Wilson is a better person than I am.

    No, he’s not. Rick Wilson is the guy who ran the ad against Sen. Max Cleland in GA, a triple amputee hero from the Vietnam War, calling him a traitor.

    He’s a never trumper and has some good things to say currently, but I will never give him a pass because of that despicable ad.

  13. 13.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 3, 2020 at 3:14 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: He could have just wished him well without the holier-than-thou bullshit, don’t you think?

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:   I do not wish Rush a recovery.

    I wish him a speedy end, with excellent palliative care.  (And take Murdoch and Hannity with him.)

  15. 15.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 3, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Apparently he’s had people harassing him on twitter for the last few weeks, among other things wishing cancer on him and his family. It’s made him touchy on the topic.

    The Limbaugh thing appears to be true though. I see Cole tweeted fuck Limbaugh, do Hannity next. I laughed.

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    February 3, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I told SuzMom that I wish Rush a long life, sustained by the finest socialized healthcare in the world.

  17. 17.

    joel hanes

    February 3, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    What kind of animal kills people trying to preserve butterflies?

    I believe that the answer in this case is: someone who intends to illegally log the mature trees on which the Monarchs congregate.   These murders were a warning to anyone else who might tend to get in the way.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 3, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    I’ll say this for Rush Limbaugh III, there is no Rush Limbaugh IV

  19. 19.

    Suzanne

    February 3, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    Don’t forget how Dampnut is destroying organ pipe and saguaro….

  20. 20.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:   Small mercies.

  21. 21.

    joel hanes

    February 3, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    @Brachiator:

    There were affinity groups in the ancient days under Compuserve and other online services.

    Usenet rec.arts.books was a particularly lovely one in its heyday.   I still miss that forum, and the amazing stable of contributors.   It was there that Mike Godwin formulated Godwin’s Law.

  22. 22.

    JPL

    February 3, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    Remember when everyone was on twitter wishing erick erickson well with his and his wife’s recent diagnosis.   Once he felt better he went back to f..king the dems.   I don’t wish ill on anyone, but I don’t need to say  something else besides that

  23. 23.

    burnspbesq

    February 3, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    @Probably Not an Asshole mistermix:

    The butterfly sanctuary’s problems are a highly visible example of the horrors of Trump’s Fiasco in the Rio Grand Valley, but they aren’t an isolated example. The government is issuing notices of taking to landowners all up and down the valley, grabbing properties that in some cases have been in families for 150 years at obscenely low values. In some places large tracts of productive farmland are ending up on the wrong side of the wall.

    If I’m feeling better later in the year, and can get admitted to the Texas bar without having to take the exam, I may volunteer to do some pro bono defense work.

  24. 24.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 3:28 pm

    @burnspbesq:   The pro bono would be great.  Hope you feel better, and are able to do it.

  25. 25.

    WhatsMyNym

    February 3, 2020 at 3:30 pm

    At least journalists in the UK are still ready to stand up to (walk out on) the Tories…

    Political journalists boycotted a Downing Street briefing on Monday after one of Boris Johnson’s aides banned selected reporters from attending.

    The confrontation took place inside No 10 after Lee Cain, Johnson’s most senior communications adviser, tried to exclude reporters from the Mirror, the i, HuffPost, PoliticsHome, the Independent and others from an official government briefing.

  26. 26.

    Brachiator

    February 3, 2020 at 3:34 pm

    @joel hanes:

    Usenet rec.arts.books was a particularly lovely one in its heyday. I still miss that forum, and the amazing stable of contributors. It was there that Mike Godwin formulated Godwin’s Law.

    Yes! Usenet.  That’s the term I was trying to remember. I was more Compuserve and Prodigy generation, but I had heard about Usenet.

    Cool bit of info about Mike Godwin.

  27. 27.

    joel hanes

    February 3, 2020 at 3:34 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I do not wish Rush a recovery.

    Oh, I do.   I think the kind of recovery I wish for him is known as “to the pain”.

    (Limbaugh’s radio show poisoned my father’s mind for five years or so back in the 90s, and it took years for Dad to regain his bearings.)

  28. 28.

    Probably Not an Asshole mistermix

    February 3, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    @burnspbesq: Do they still have the rule of law there?

    Hope you feel well enough to give it a shot.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    February 3, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    @WhatsMyNym:

    Political journalists boycotted a Downing Street briefing on Monday after one of Boris Johnson’s aides banned selected reporters from attending.

    Damn. Talk about mimicking Trump.

    But in another way, consistent with Johnson’s past actions. He acts like the bullying elitist school boy that he is.

  30. 30.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 3, 2020 at 3:42 pm

    @Brachiator:

    At least the UK journalists stood up for their colleague, unlike the US ones who did nothing when NPR was banned from the WH trip

  31. 31.

    pamelabrown53

    February 3, 2020 at 3:45 pm

    @Probably Not an Asshole mistermix:

    I really think you should delete the “not” in your nym. It reeks of assholiness to all the hardworking  Texans committed to turning this state blue.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 3:49 pm

    @pamelabrown53: I am not understanding your comment.  What am I missing?

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    @joel hanes:   Ah, so your dad made it out of Rush’s clutches?

    How did that happen?  Happy to hear he regained his bearings (ie. decency).

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    OT, but checking in on the active threads to ask for confirmation that (hopefully) the evil ads are gone.

  35. 35.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    @WaterGirl:   Thinking it’s snarking about whether Texas still has rule of law?

    FWIW, MM has been advised to drop the “not” multiple times in his morning thread.

  36. 36.

    pamelabrown53

    February 3, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    His reply to burnspesq about hoping to qualify to do pro bono work in Texas. He asked if we “still had the rule of law here”?!

    Struck me as incredibly condescending and elitist: in other words an “asshole”.

    Maybe I’m just in a piss poor mood today and should refrain from commenting. ;-)

  37. 37.

    Ohio Mom

    February 3, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Lung cancer is not an area of particular expertise for me (my speciality is breast cancer) but I am under the impression one does not get cured of advanced lung cancer.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    @Elizabelle: @pamelabrown53:   I had missed the Texas reference, and the morning thread is the one thread I haven’t read today. Of course!

  39. 39.

    Dan B

    February 3, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    @WaterGirl:  The top ad that covered refresh on mobile is gone!  Thanks so much.  It was possible to minimize but had to be done eveytime I read comments or looked at a new post – many times a day.

  40. 40.

    Mnemosyne

    February 3, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Lung cancer is what my older brother died from, so I literally would not wish it on my worst enemy. It’s a really, really hard way to go.

    I will also say that the odds of recovering from advanced lung cancer are … not good, and depend a whole lot more on one’s individual body chemistry and how it responds to treatment than anything else. Limbaugh should probably make sure that his will is in order.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    @Dan B: Yay!   Thanks for letting me know.

  42. 42.

    Josie

    February 3, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    @pamelabrown53:

    Not only elitist and condescending, but ignorant and uninformed as well.  Not surprising.

    ETA: Please continue to comment.  You are always on target.

  43. 43.

    Mnemosyne

    February 3, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    IIRC from my Google searches after my brother was diagnosed, the best you can do after stage III starts is to find a chemotherapy regimen that will slow or stop its growth. There’s really no way to reverse it or send it into remission, no matter how much money you have.

  44. 44.

    Betty Cracker

    February 3, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    Just piping up in support of Mistermix. I don’t agree with every single thing he says, but he’s a good and thoughtful guy, and I appreciate his posts and comments. It’s disturbing to see other good and thoughtful people reflexively slag Mistermix for saying things that would go completely unremarked if someone else said them. Sign of the times, I guess. It’s depressing.

  45. 45.

    Mnemosyne

    February 3, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    He also sometimes goes out of his way to be a dick and then gets whiny when people call him out on it. If he could learn to say okay, my bad, that was over the line, people would cut him more slack.

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 4:38 pm

    @Mnemosyne:   What Mnemo said.

    @Betty Cracker: With this morning’s post, you could see the thoughtful side.  Went astray in the comments, and a little humility is a good thing.  Better to apologize than double down, particularly on matters of decency.

    I skimmed BJ from time to time when internet was available, and it really seemed MM was trolling his own blog in recent weeks.  Clickbait central.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 4:40 pm

    @Betty Cracker:  That’s what I call giving someone the “negative benefit of the doubt”.

    It’s human nature, but it’s neither fair nor fun when you are on the receiving end of it.

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 3, 2020 at 4:46 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    and it really seemed MM was trolling his own blog in recent weeks.

    yup

  49. 49.

    Betty Cracker

    February 3, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    @WaterGirl: I’ve never heard that expression before, but sure seems apt in this case.

    @Elizabelle: & @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Trolling the blog how? I honestly don’t see it.

  50. 50.

    Elizabelle

    February 3, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    @Betty Cracker:   Can’t do it right now, but that might be something for me to answer via email.  I saw a few examples while traveling.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    February 3, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    @Betty Cracker:  I made it up long ago, and have been using it for years.  It’s totally available for stealing.

  52. 52.

    Skepticat

    February 3, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    I don’t wish cancer on anyone, but this does rather support the position of friends who insist that being a negative, evil person can cause it. Karma’s a bitch.

  53. 53.

    Ascap_scab

    February 3, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    My mom told me, “if you don’t have anything good to say about someone, then say nothing at all”.

    You tell me Rush Limbaugh has lung cancer. I say good.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    February 3, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @Elizabelle: On second thought, never mind. I’ll just disagree and leave it at that.

  55. 55.

    Yutsano

    February 3, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Just channel our long lost and still beloved Angry Black Lady:

    “We can agree to disagree, but I’m right.”

  56. 56.

    Ohio Mom

    February 3, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    Skepticat @ 52: Some people like to blame cancer patients for their illness but it’s only bad luck. Vegans, athletes and saints can all get cancer. Please tell your friends enough with the victim-blaming, it’s cruel and unfounded.

    Now how someone deals with a life threatening illness, THAT reflects that persin’s character. I don’t expect Limbaugh to be anything but a miserable asshole, multiplied many times, during his last days.

  57. 57.

    Skepticat

    February 3, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I agree completely with you, but I was being flip without meaning to impute blame. Though I must admit I can’t help thinking of the comments when someone like this is stricken. Incidentally, one of those “friends” was hinting that I might not have developed cancer if I weren’t an atheist.

  58. 58.

    BRyan

    February 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker:  lurking for years, I comment VERY occasionally when I’m struggling with issues/opinions and hoping for input from others that might help clarify my thinking.  posted yesterday, and MM was the first to pop back, with a comment that I read as sarcastic and snide (“class-A trolling” I believe was mentioned).  Fortunately others (including you, IIRC) responded more appropriately, which I appreciated, but his comment did reinforce my existing-and-gathering-strength perception that, if the circle of BJ commenters is dwindling (seems to me it is), it’s no wonder.

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