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Open Thread: Biden and Harris Live

by TaMara|  December 1, 20201:07 pm| 150 Comments

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  1. 1.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 1, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Dude moves better in a boot than he who shall not be named moves on a good day.

  2. 2.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 1, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): I had to rewind to watch The Boot Walk.

    You’re right. :)

  3. 3.

    Benw

    December 1, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    No WAY Trump leaves his golf clubs behind

  4. 4.

    Emma from FL

    December 1, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    Cecilia Rouse as head of Economic Advisors. Hot as they say damn.

  5. 5.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    I like the orange overspray on the wall.

    Any more comments on the announcement(s)?

  6. 6.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    @Spanky:

    Any more comments on the announcement(s)?

    They’re qualified.

  7. 7.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    We belong everywhere.

    Including at the head of the table. https://t.co/PTSoKhDyjC

    — Ayanna Pressley (@AyannaPressley) December 1, 2020

  8. 8.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Would it have killed them to put their names on the screen as they talked? I dialed in when Janet Yellen, I assume, was up. Is this Neera Tanden?

  9. 9.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 1, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    I’m not seeing enough mediocre white men.

  10. 10.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    If Cecilia Rouse is nominated and confirmed, the Council of Economic Advisers will be chaired once again by an actual economist. https://t.co/GHbRLUTwHm

    — David Gura (@davidgura) November 30, 2020

  11. 11.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 1, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    @germy: I made the mistake of reading the comments.

    It was actually not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Only a few “This is race baiting!” and so on.

  12. 12.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    @Spanky: I’m running a little behind the live feed, so unfortunately can’t help.

  13. 13.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    They can scream into the wind.

  14. 14.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I’ve had enough mediocre white men to last a lifetime, and I’M A MEDIOCRE WHITE MAN.

    (Say it loud and say it proud!)

  15. 15.

    ...now I try to be amused

    December 1, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    @Spanky:

    I’ve had enough mediocre white men to last a lifetime, and I’M A MEDIOCRE WHITE MAN.

    Amen. One of the many reasons I’m not a Trumpalo is that I want people in government who are better than me.

  16. 16.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 1, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’m not seeing enough mediocre white men. 

    No pasty-faced trash?  What gives?

  17. 17.

    Geminid

    December 1, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @Spanky: Mediocre people are always at their best.

  18. 18.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:38 pm

    Hey! Who’s the white guy with Pence hair?

  19. 19.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:39 pm

    He’s making Biden sound like some kinda commie.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    @Geminid: totally stealing that (possibly as my epitaph)

  21. 21.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    actual Fox News dot com headline right now: “Biden announces controversial picks for top economic posts, as wide range of critics raise alarm”

    “controversial”

    “wide range”

    “alarm”

    I dunno…I just don’t thing those dogs are gonna hunt, Fox News

  22. 22.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    OMG the diversity: a Black woman, a Black man, an Indian-American woman, and a short woman. Ms. O feels seen.

    ETA: There’s a white guy too.

  23. 23.

    Redshift

    December 1, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    It was actually not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Only a few “This is race baiting!” and so on.

    Ah, the ongoing conservative Orwell project, trying to redefine all terms about racism to mean the opposite of what they actually do. It started, I think, with insisting that “playing the race card” meant any mention of race. They rarely succeed, but they often muddle the thinking of a large segment of the population enough that everyone stops using the term entirely.

    I can’t help but be amused at their inability to grasp how racist it is to believe that choosing anyone but a white man must mean you’re lowering your standards.

  24. 24.

    Benw

    December 1, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    @Geminid: LOL!

    @mrmoshpotato: that’s really hurtful to us mediocre white men. The Trumpers are shitty, SHITTY white men.

  25. 25.

    Redshift

    December 1, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: And no people who are being introduced as being “straight out of Central Casting”? No people who were picked because the president-elect saw them on TV? No family members or people who did some random unrelated job for a family member?

    What is the world coming to?

  26. 26.

    LuciaMia

    December 1, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    Biden seems more energized today.

  27. 27.

    cain

    December 1, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    @LuciaMia:

    He’s more machine than man today! ;)

  28. 28.

    cain

    December 1, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    @Benw:

    Make mediocre white men, great again? noooooo!! Too soon! Too soon!!

  29. 29.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    Well, my feed went out and only came back at the end of VPE Harris’s closing remarks.

  30. 30.

    lollipopguild

    December 1, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    @Redshift: No people picked because they work at Fox? The Horror!

  31. 31.

    coin operated

    December 1, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    @Spanky: +1

  32. 32.

    Spanky

    December 1, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    @Jeffro:

    “Biden announces controversial picks for top economic posts, as wide range of critics raise alarm”

    “Wide range” here means the boobs on both sides of the blonde on the couch.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    @germy

    *gasp* Not, say, a golf caddy who “looks right out of central casting” for the position?

    Radicalism run riot!

    //

  34. 34.

    sab

    December 1, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: My whole lifetime they always said that they would hire something other than Ivy League frat boys if only anyone else was qualified. Then we learned with Obama that lots of very qualified folks out there.

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    December 1, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    @Jeffro: I saw it on a bumper sticker once, and it stuck with me.

  36. 36.

    Mike in NC

    December 1, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    I like the bust of Putin and the Confederate flag in that cartoon. Forever to be linked to the moronic Fat Bastard we just gave the boot to. Now back to watching “Zero Hour!”.

  37. 37.

    Brachiator

    December 1, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    @Emma from FL:

    Cecilia Rouse as head of Economic Advisors. Hot as they say damn.

    She attended Harvard. Isn’t that supposed to be a bad thing, per Little Marco Rubio?

    actual Fox News dot com headline right now: “Biden announces controversial picks for top economic posts, as wide range of critics raise alarm”

    Wow. I guess “controversial” means “no grifters, sycophants or incompetents.”

  38. 38.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    @lollipopguild

    “Alexa, order ALL the fainting couches.”

    //

  39. 39.

    Just Chuck

    December 1, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    Turns out hiring actually qualified people for the job makes for boring TV.  Cable TV producers are desperate to punch this stuff up.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    @Mike in NC

    Don’t eat the fish.

    :)

  41. 41.

    Benw

    December 1, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    @cain: haha!

    MMWMGA? Doesn’t really roll off the tongue, eh?

    I guess we’ll have to settle for building back better, with highly qualified people from all races and genders.

  42. 42.

    JustRuss

    December 1, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:  Somebody needs to get to a diner stat and ask some Real Americans how they feel about these appointments.

  43. 43.

    jnfr

    December 1, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    I watched live and didn’t even notice the boot.

    Sounds like a very good group. I like the consistent emphasis on unions, workers, jobs. So different from the usual Republican praise of corporations and rich people.

  44. 44.

    jnfr

    December 1, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    @Spanky:

    That’s Jared Bernstein. He’s really good. I’m happy to see him on the Council of Econ Advisors. Despite the hair, he’s no Pence.

  45. 45.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 1, 2020 at 2:04 pm

    @jnfr: I actually rewound so I could see his boot – because like you, I didn’t even notice the first time around.

  46. 46.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:04 pm

    @JustRuss: Great idea, as long as they ask the Real Murkins™ what OMB stands for and what it does.

  47. 47.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): Hah! I did the same.

  48. 48.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Heather Boushey
    Member of the Council of Economic Advisers

    • Core of her work as an economist centers on the intersection between economic inequality, growth, and public policy
    • Raised in a union family, and believes our economy is strongest when it offers dignity and respect to all workers and families
  49. 49.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 1, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Dear Anthony Fauci (speaking to our Gov right now). We are not Gov. Polis’ constituents, we are the citizens of Colorado. Just a minor point (it was grating on me, so I had to whine here). Other than that, thanks for telling it like it is.

  50. 50.

    Kent

    December 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    @Emma from FL:Cecilia Rouse as head of Economic Advisors. Hot as they say damn.

    According to her wiki bio, she is married to Ford Morrison, which makes Toni Morrison her mother-in-law.

    That is some mother-in-law!

  51. 51.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa

    “Onions, mushrooms and bacon. Not on the regular menu, ask for the special #6 omelet.”

    //

  52. 52.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 1, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    @Spanky: I’m sure the DSA and Glenn Greenwald are venting their spleens as well

  53. 53.

    Cameron

    December 1, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    @Jeffro: I did not know that ‘controversial’ was a synonym for ‘qualified.’

  54. 54.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 1, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): I have to add, he’s very reassuring and calm in his explanations and I’m glad he’s able to speak out now.

    Oh, and the Gov just sent me a little bit of money, I guess I should shut up and stop complaining.

  55. 55.

    Cameron

    December 1, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    @Spanky: Wide range, wide stance, WTFever….never change, Fox!  You be you!

  56. 56.

    Mike in NC

    December 1, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    @jnfr:  No more Jareds, please!

  57. 57.

    JPL

    December 1, 2020 at 2:15 pm

    @Kent: Whoa!

  58. 58.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    For the record, here are the recommendations @neeratanden and CAP put out on Social Security in 2019. We also literally led the charge against Trump’s plan to defund Social Security in 2020. https://t.co/dKMNkbynJW pic.twitter.com/rIuUDq8qyT

    — Jesse Lee (@JesseCharlesLee) December 1, 2020

  59. 59.

    JoyceH

    December 1, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    @Mike in NC: I’m concerned about that great big lump under the carpet. Someone better check and make sure Trump isn’t hiding under there.

  60. 60.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    The Google ads have taken over the site. I can see only the top half of my screen, above the stupid ads. I’ve tried everything to get rid of them and it only brings more. I’m on a Mac laptop. Help!! I’m being held captive by google ads!

  61. 61.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    @spanky

    “Some say she once ate at a Mexican joint owned by a guy named Chavez.”

    //

  62. 62.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    @Spanky: “We three here at ‘Fox and Friends’ polled ourselves and the results were SHOCKING!”

    (cue Pavlovian ‘Breaking News’ gong and graphics to really get the fear response going)

    “So-called Not-my-President-elect Biden is picking people who AREN’T rabid Randians for his economic team!   0/10 would not recommend…”

  63. 63.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 1, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    @germy: it’s a remarkable example of horseshoe politics, Neera Tanden seems to be the Bête Noire of a certain kind of lefty because she 1) is actually a Democrat and 2) got crossways on twitter with the very odd (to be charitable) Matt Breunig, and he and his also odd but less obnoxious wife seem to be the social mascots of certain kind of very insidery, junior-league lefties of the Vox/Journo-list cohort

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    @Faithful Lurker

    Takes all of maybe five minutes to install an ad blocker. You will always later have the option to turn it off or uninstall it if you want.

  65. 65.

    Lyrebird

    December 1, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    @Benw: @mrmoshpotato: that’s really hurtful to us mediocre white men. The Trumpers are shitty, SHITTY white men.

    Yes, and I hope we see a lot less of them and the shitty, SHITTY, downright EVIL supposedly good looking white women like McEnany and Schlapp (both of em) and Conway and that ghoul of a senator from GA (actually both of em)…

  66. 66.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    @Brachiator: I think they meant to say “competent” and slipped

     

    I do have to thank Fox in some small way for putting an old Prince song into my head on this slow afternoon… =)

  67. 67.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 1, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  His wife is quite horrible to but being pretty helps.

  68. 68.

    jnfr

    December 1, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    I understand :)

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    @Faithful Lurker: Frustrating!

    Can you get a screen capture of that and send it to me?

  70. 70.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 1, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: I’ve been told that Neera Tanden wanted to slash Social Security, but the only source I can find is Jacobin magazine.

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 1, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the flying monkey brigade of the BJP IT cell starts attacking Neera Tanden.

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    @Cameron: well, these are a Democratic president’s picks, so in Fox-land they’re already going to be D+ at best.

    What we clearly need is someone on this economic team who’ll advocate for the forgotten rich man, the left-behind banker, the jilted job-creators!  WHO…who, I ask, will speak for the yacht paraders???

  73. 73.

    MazeDancer

    December 1, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    Poor Jared Bernstein – who has been on TV often over the years – got clipped out. So did Kamala’s summary appearance.

    Too bad.

    But loved them all. Smart, humble, dedicated, wanting what’s best for the most people. That Joe – and Kamala – can pick ’em!

  74. 74.

    karen marie

    December 1, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  I scrolled through a reply thread to a Greenwald tweet in which he lost his shit about Neeran.  The “me too” replies appeared to be almost entirely Bernie Bros.  I hung around for a while blocking account after account after account.  Bunch of fucking morons.

  75. 75.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 1, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    Walker “liberal case for Donald Trump” Bragman is also very concerned.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    @NotMax: True, but I think it’s up to the site to not have such a ridiculous amount of ads that make the site nearly unusable.  So we need people to tell us when the ads are taking over.

  77. 77.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    @NotMax: Which one do you recommend?

  78. 78.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 1, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    Is this when Obama finally cuts Social Security?

  79. 79.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 1, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    This probably deserves its own front page post:

    Someone’s going under the bus! https://t.co/QS8FyzJLVV

    — Betty Cracker ? (@bettycrackerfl) December 1, 2020

  80. 80.

    karen marie

    December 1, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    @Faithful Lurker:   I use AdBlock.  It’s very effective.  It’s also easy to make an exception for a specific page or site.

  81. 81.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    @karen marie:

    Greenwald went on Tucker Carlson to scream about her.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 2:35 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Of course it’s the site’s responsibility. Just pointing out an option for a temporary remedy on the user end.

    “Hey WG, I had to install a blocker because the ads were eating my iPad” is a heads-up, too. (randomly chosen example)

  83. 83.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    @WaterGirl: I’ve got it down to a half screen when the whole enchilada comes back I’ll send it to you. This is the first time this has happened on this computer and I’m here a lot. It’s not happening on my iPad.

    Thanks for helping.

  84. 84.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 1, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    How strange.  I wonder why he didn’t just keep his mouth shut?

  85. 85.

    Ken

    December 1, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    @JoyceH: I’m concerned about that great big lump under the carpet. Someone better check and make sure Trump isn’t hiding under there.

    Nah, just do what the professional carpet installers do, and hammer it flat with a chunk of 2×4.

    (There’s a joke about that, involving a lump that the installer thinks is his pack of cigarettes.)

  86. 86.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    Hope everybody is watching @OANN right now. Other media afraid to show. People are coming forward like never before. Large truck carrying hundreds of thousands of fraudulent (FAKE) ballots to a voting center? TERRIBLE – SAVE AMERICA!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2020

  87. 87.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    pic.twitter.com/QjmZqNeJdt— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2020

    “An unaffiliated Michigan voter” … yeah, right.

  88. 88.

    karen marie

    December 1, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    @germy:  Yeah, I heard.  If stupid were fuel, you could get a rocket to Pluto by stuffing it full of Greenwaldstans.

  89. 89.

    geg6

    December 1, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    @Spanky:

    That’s Jared Bernstein.  A good Jared.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Bernstein

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    @Faithful Lurker

    AdBlock Plus or uBlock consistently are highly rated and mostly user friendly. AdGuard if poking around under the hood and tinkering with customization floats yer boat.

  91. 91.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 2:43 pm

    @karen marie: Thanks. I’m using an out of date operating system for reasons so I’ll have to find an ad blocker that will work.

    Thanks for the help.

  92. 92.

    Kent

    December 1, 2020 at 2:43 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:@germy: it’s a remarkable example of horseshoe politics, Neera Tanden seems to be the Bête Noire of a certain kind of lefty because she 1) is actually a Democrat and 2) got crossways on twitter with the very odd (to be charitable) Matt Breunig, and he and his also odd but less obnoxious wife seem to be the social mascots of certain kind of very insidery, junior-league lefties of the Vox/Journo-list cohort

    As far as I can tell, it really started at the 2016 Convention.

    Neera Tandeen was on the platform committee and one of the Hillary Clinton loyalists that pushed back against the Sandernistas’ efforts to seed some more progressive planks into the platform (that no one read after the convention).  In other words, she fought to have the platform reflect what Hillary Clinton and the Clinton campaign wanted it to reflect.

    Apparently some of the Sandernistas and their fellow travelers have never forgiven her for the sin of advocating for the positions of the campaign that she was working for instead of undermining the campaign by going full blown Bernie Sanders at the convention.

  93. 93.

    Ken

    December 1, 2020 at 2:44 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think it’s up to the site to not have such a ridiculous amount of ads

    So do most of the website designers and programmers I know.  If only their wishes were considered…

  94. 94.

    Jeffro

    December 1, 2020 at 2:45 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): maybe now that trumpov has grifted $150M from the rubes (plus all 6 trumpov-contested states have certified their votes) it’s time to “pivot” if they want to have a prayer of turning out the vote in GA?

    The MAGAt morons will swallow the ‘new narrative’ without a second thought.

  95. 95.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 1, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    @germy: Victoria Jackson is also using the occasion to attempt a comeback

  96. 96.

    sab

    December 1, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    @JustRuss: I lve in Ohio and I do not know where to find a diner. Haven’t seen one since I left Grand Rapids Michigan in 1984.

  97. 97.

    Amir Khalid

    December 1, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    Bill Barr is frust* because the Democrats aren’t cooperating: they have refused to commit any election fraud.

    *Ancient Malaysian slang from the 1970s

  98. 98.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    @Faithful Lurker: Thank you!  It’s 10x more effective with John when he can see a screenshot.

  99. 99.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: and 3) she is a she.

  100. 100.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    @Ken: I can’t even describe how I feel, after having spent the better part of 6 months working on the site redo, to be as pretty and as functional as it could possibly be, to have it junked up and slowed down by the ads.

  101. 101.

    LuciaMia

    December 1, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    Large truck carrying hundreds of thousands of fraudulent (FAKE) ballots

    Funny, when this ‘report’ first surfaced it was only hundreds of ballots. Now its hundreds of thousands.

  102. 102.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 1, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: well , Briana Joy Gray agrees with them, so you know she’s EEEEEEEEEEEEVIL

  103. 103.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    @NotMax: I’m a computer semi literate, so the simpler the better. I’ve just installed Ad Block and that should so it. Thanks for the advice.

  104. 104.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    @LuciaMia:

    The ballots are like tribbles.  They’re born pregnant.

  105. 105.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    @LuciaMia: Which begs the question, why didn’t Biden win by even bigger margins and in every state?

  106. 106.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 1, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    @Kent: They’re currently complaining about positions she apparently advocated in 2010, which is six years before Bragman was making the liberal case for Donald Trump, so you’d think there would be a statute of limitations.

  107. 107.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    @NotMax: Mmm…OMB omelet.

  108. 108.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 1, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    @Kent: Yes being an HRC loyalist is her biggest sin in the eyes of the alt left

  109. 109.

    sab

    December 1, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @sab: My blue-collar husband has lived his whole life here in  medium sized Ohio city and has never been in a diner. And he is 70. I think diners are an exurb thing.

  110. 110.

    JPL

    December 1, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Barr just arrived at the White House..     teehee

  111. 111.

    WhatsMyNym

    December 1, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @Faithful Lurker:   Try Brave as your browser.  Available on mobile or desktop.  Has an ad blocker you can turn on.  Also can block social media embeds, separately.

  112. 112.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    @sab: They were a New Jersey thing when I was growing up. Mostly Greek-owned. Greasy, but good. (Pun only somewhat intended.

    ETA: I loved the food, but as DAW notes below, the coffee was typically terrible.

  113. 113.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    Do something @BrianKempGA. You allowed your state to be scammed. We must check signatures and count signed envelopes against ballots. Then call off election. It won’t be needed. We will all WIN! https://t.co/UiJrlyBGiK
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2020

    “Then call off election. It won’t be needed.”

  114. 114.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    @germy: How can you win if there’s no election?

    Oh wait, never mind.

  115. 115.

    sab

    December 1, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    @WaterGirl: Ads have been weird. For a while the banner ads took over the whole site. Ads weren’t readable but they trashed the site. Ads aren’t supposed to do that. Defeats the whole point.

    Much better lately. Yay Watergirl. I knew you were on it.

  116. 116.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 1, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    @sab: There was a diner in Ames, IA, when I worked there. Its business was undercut by the arrival of Panera, where people could also go for coffee.

  117. 117.

    germy

    December 1, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Barr doesn’t want to play anymore.

    ?“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don’t like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and ‘investigate,’” Barr said. https://t.co/j2zOHid6tN

    — Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) December 1, 2020

    Joint statement from Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, issued by Trump camp while Barr is at WH:

    "With the greatest respect to the Attorney General, his opinion appears to be without any knowledge or investigation of the substantial irregularities and evidence of systemic fraud"

    — Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) December 1, 2020

  118. 118.

    JPL

    December 1, 2020 at 3:00 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Loeffler would still have a runoff,because she did not get 50 percent of the vote.   If you take votes from Warnock, she’d run against Collins.

  119. 119.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    @LuciaMia

    How do they think ballots are transported? By Pony Express?

    “Idiots — all of them.”
      – Mrs. Peachum (The Threepenny Opera)
    .

  120. 120.

    karen marie

    December 1, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    @Faithful Lurker:  When you say “out of date,” how out of date?  I’m using Win7, and AdBlocker works fine.

  121. 121.

    MattF

    December 1, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    @germy: Full statement.

  122. 122.

    Anotherlurker

    December 1, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    @Faithful Lurker: Adblocker works very well for me.

    I also contribute to BJ, when I can.

  123. 123.

    JPL

    December 1, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    @germy: Did you see this?

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Barr appoints Durham special counsel to keep investigating Russia probe origins under new administration

  124. 124.

    Faithful Lurker

    December 1, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    To all who helped, Ad Blocker seems to have taken care of the problem. If it fails later, I’ll look at Brave. I’m using MacOS 10.13.6. I need to upgrade it but I’m resisting. Water Girl, I can’t capture the ads since they’re gone. Sorry. They were just the standard Google ads, not very interesting but highly annoying.

    Back to the lurking for me.

  125. 125.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: I think there should be a concerted effort to have every democrat who mailed in a ballot to check with their county on the status of their ballot.

    When it arrived, was it opened and verified, was it counted, etc.

    That’s the only way I can see for us to know how many mail-in ballots never made it to where they would be counted, or didn’t arrive in time for counting.

  126. 126.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    @Faithful Lurker: It’s not the details of the ads themselves, that help.  What’s helpful is showing how much of the screen is covered, and what functionality isn’t available.

  127. 127.

    O. Felix Culpa

    December 1, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    @WaterGirl: My secretary of state’s website has an online tracker you can use to check the status of your ballot and I think that many other states have something similar as well. Not sure if it’s universally available though.

  128. 128.

    Annie

    December 1, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    Guess he wants to go back to Kirkland and Ellis.

  129. 129.

    Suzanne

    December 1, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    What do we keep saying, that it’s all projection with these assholes? Exhibit #69258193668300207155289.

  130. 130.

    MattF

    December 1, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    @Suzanne: Someone glued his ears on backwards.

  131. 131.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    @Suzanne

    Hungarian Foolmosh?

    //

  132. 132.

    Miss Bianca

    December 1, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    @NotMax:

    @Faithful Lurker:  AdBlock + monthly contribution to the blog and blammo…ad-free *and* conscience free!

  133. 133.

    glory b

    December 1, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    @Spanky: To be fair, the people formerly known as cosplay socialists were unhappy. In fact, Walker Bragman, son of a real estate developer and biglaw partner, now is urging his brethren to join with the republicans to “flex our muscles” and show Biden and Harris that they mean business!

    So, the circle from the left to the right is now complete.

  134. 134.

    Miss Bianca

    December 1, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    @germy: Hey, I’m totally up for a little bout of “let’s him and them fight” if it keeps Barr from fucking with other shit, even if only temporarily.

  135. 135.

    Ruckus

    December 1, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    @TaMara (HFG):

    There is no good day when he who shall remain shitforbrains is still walking.

  136. 136.

    Suzanne

    December 1, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    @NotMax: Talk about a superspreading event!

  137. 137.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 1, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    @glory b:

    the people formerly known as cosplay socialists

    heh

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    December 1, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Maybe he is looking past the end of his nose, no matter where or who’s it’s buried in.

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    @Suzanne

    See Szilveszter over there? He was wearing leather face masks before they were cool!

    :)

  140. 140.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 1, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: There’s an out-of-context screen clip from when Obama was trying to get a bargain with Republicans in 2010-2011, where she says that maybe we can make some changes to social security if we get something good out of it.

    That’s pretty much it.

    The other big complaint is that she wasn’t opposed to Libyans paying us back with cheaper oil if the intervention there succeeded. This is being portrayed as “A tool of big oil and stealing Libya’s natural resources by being a warmonger”.

    Yeah. It’s stupid.

  141. 141.

    JustRuss

    December 1, 2020 at 4:58 pm

    @sab: Confession: I love diners.  And we do have them here in the People’s Republic of Oregon, though not always easy to find.

  142. 142.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    @JustRuss

    A good downhome diner is worth its weight in grease.

    ;)

  143. 143.

    WaterGirl

    December 1, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    If you haven’t checked the Balloon Juice Calendar A to make sure all your guys are in there, that all the info is correct, that there’s a heart if there should be a heart, etc…

    Please do so now because we hope to have the calendar order-able sometime tonight, and if you don’t catch the error before you order, you are out of luck.  :-(

    Check the links in the sidebar to the spreadsheets so you know whether your guys are in Calendar A or Calendar B.  If all goes well, Calendar B is coming this evening.

    https://balloon-juice.com/2020/12/01/2021-balloon-juice-pet-calendar-calendar-a/?updated=1606858443#comment-7983367

  144. 144.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 1, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    @Suzanne:

    What’s the matter bro?  Don’t want your anti-gay ass seen at a 25-man orgy?

    And “fleeing through a window” is just (chef’s orgy)!

  145. 145.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 1, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    @JustRuss: me too. To me diners are all about unhealthy breakfasts, a good tuna melt, stuff that would make foodies cringe

  146. 146.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 1, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    @Ruckus:

    There is no good day when he who shall remain shitforbrains is still walking. 

    Amen to that.

  147. 147.

    NotMax

    December 1, 2020 at 5:09 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Breakfasts, yes. But the ironclad test of a good diner is the meatloaf.

    IMHO.

  148. 148.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 1, 2020 at 5:10 pm

    @Benw: I wasn’t making a comparison, you mediocre white man. ?

  149. 149.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 1, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Big complaint #3 is that she busted the union at CAP, which I have no idea of the merits of.

  150. 150.

    Ruckus

    December 1, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    CA sends an email out if you signed up online, looks like a big “I Voted” button.

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