The Women’s March returns to Washington on October 2 to rally in support of reproductive rights.
Marches are being organized in every state two days before the Supreme Court reconvenes for the October term.
The event was announced on September 2, the same day Texas’s new abortion legislation went into effect, banning abortions after six weeks and giving Texans the power to sue abortion providers.
In the dark of night, the Supreme Court voted to uphold the legislation in a 5-4 majority. Texas’s anti-abortion laws are now the most restrictive in the country.
We don’t say this lightly: we’re at grave risk of losing our reproductive freedoms. All of us need to fight back.
That’s why on October 2, we’re marching in every state.
Pledge to march with us and over 90 organizations to #DefendAbortion: https://t.co/l2M5GOCYb3
— Women’s March (@womensmarch) September 2, 2021
I got this note from Uncle Ebeneezer:
The Women’s March and Planned Parenthood are planning some big actions that weekend. My local PP is doing a parade/rally and I want to promote it since I know we have several Pasadena peeps at BJ. Anyways, might be good to have a dedicated thread for actions throughout the country. ~UncleEb
Is anyone planning to go to the Women’s March in Washington DC on Oct 2? Or a state march? Are your communities participating? Anyone interested in meeting up with other BJ peeps?
If you know anything more about this march, or about activities in your neck of the woods, please let us know in the comments.
Map of events from Scout211.
Oh, and here is your daily Jen Psaki.
Covid Memorial Flag Installation on the Mall in DC
Omnes Omnibus
Do you mean the same week that the Court will be hearing arguments on an abortion case? Or did I miss some news?
Scout211
And the Mississippi abortion case is now on the docket for December 1st. Ugh.
The Thin Black Duke
Here’s an essay I wrote about poor Gabby Petito. It’s a familiar story because women aren’t safe.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Are you referring to this?
I copied that from the website. Is it the case that they are HEARING arguments on a case rather than RULING on a case? If so, I will happily correct that up top.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke:
“Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” ~ Margaret Atwood
Scout211
Here’s the map for all the local events that have been scheduled so far. You can even participate virtually.
The Thin Black Duke
@WaterGirl: It’s a man’s world, huh? I don’t think I’ve ever talked to a woman that hasn’t had a negative experience with a man, be it large of small. It’s either an emotional splinter or a stab wound.
WaterGirl
oooh, public shaming of Republicans at around the 27-minute mark of Jen’s briefing.
(the briefing actually starts at around the 25-minute mark.)
lowtechcyclist
That poster about the librarians marching is still my favorite sign from the women’s marches.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: The MS case isn’t on the docket until December. I think they were trying to say that the Court’s term starts at the beginning of October and that they will be deciding the case during the term. I would not expect a decision until the end of June.
TinRoofRusted
I will be in DC that day but I will be attending my daughter’s graduation from George Washington University which is also on the Mall but between 7th and 14th. Technically she graduated in May and we were there but the ceremony was virtual. I paid a heap ton of money to that school so I want POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE. Which we will get kind of sort of. The ceremony is for the classes of 2020 and 2021 so no walking on the stage. But Senator Professor Elizabeth Warren is the commencement speaker. Maybe when the ceremony is over we can join the women’s march.
Wag
Jennifer Rubin knocked it out of the park today with a column detailing why/how she left the GOP. She’s gone full Cole on the GQP. I have no doubt that she’ll be there with her pink hat.
Scout211
@Omnes Omnibus:
See my #2 above. I posted that link because it was announced today and I assumed it was a different one than the one that was mentioned in the front page story. I agree, October 2nd was likely a reference to the beginning of the term, since the website had that up weeks ago. The actual hearings will start on December 1st, just announced today.
The Dangerman
Hope y’all don’t mind an off topic question.
Seattle area Juicers, I could use some local information. I was once one of you. 4 long winters I was there but my SoCal blood was too thin. Anyway, after I left, I returned for a short while. Stayed on Anderson Island. Lovely house. Stunning (!!!) Rainier view when it was out.
So, I’m returning again and a small house on Anderson ain’t gonna do it. Family reunion, so I’ll need a hotel (or a huge vacation rental)…
…but I was seriously spoiled by the view of Rainier on AI. Any ideas for a hotel with similar view? Doesn’t need to be Seattle (indeed, kinda out of the city would be preferred). From my local knowledge, I was thinking Puyallup as there is a big fair there (so I figure some hotels). Maybe Olympia (for obvious reasons). Maybe one of the Casinos if it has lodging. Paradise would be perfect if I could get enough rooms but I’m guessing that’s a problem.
All ideas greatly welcomed especially if you have any specific places I should check out.
The Thin Black Duke
@Wag: Whoa. Rubin’s gone full frontal John Cole.
UncleEbeneezer
@Omnes Omnibus: Yup. And I’m guessing PP/WM also want to capitalize on the energy/outrage while that fucking TX law is still on everyone’s mind. Either way, these actions (there will probably be more later) are gonna be on Sat 10/2.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: @Omnes Omnibus:
I just removed that whole sentence up top. The earlier quote made it clear that Oct 2 is two days before the start of the October term. I’ll just leave it at that. thanks.
WaterGirl
@Wag:
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: Jennifer Rubin:
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: Thank you.
Ladyracterinok
OT—-Two weird things that happened when I the first month after my fall and transportation to the emergency room and then to rehab.
When I got to the emergency room , I waited and waited for a room. Finally I was informed that there were no beds free and that I would have to sleep on the stretcher in the emergency room cubicle. (All the beds were full not because of covid but because apparently people were in for problems that they had postponed during the height of the first covid crisis.
I found this very funny and the staff appeared to appreciate that I wasn’t upset.
But really spending my first night in the hospital on the stretcher in the emergency room cubicle where I was first brought!!!
The second weird thing was reported to me by my friend and neighbor in the apartment complex where I had been leaving. She told me that just out side my patio someone had been running and had been shot!!!!
The cops came and closed off the all the access routes into the complex and try to figure out what had happened. The manager was called to see if she could identify the dead man as a resident possible resident of the complex but she could not identify him.
Up to now apparently nothing has been learned about what led up to this incident.
My son who had been here after I fell and spent some time setting up legal documents for my stay and documents we should have done before I became 81 had gone back to his home 500 miles from here
He was glad I no longer lived in the apartment complex and was sure that drugs were involved in the whole mess!
Many more weird things happen while I was in the hospital and in rehab. I have learned more than I ever wanted to know about how the body works and what kind of therapy is necessary to recover from a fall. Recovery was complicated because I have rheumatoid arthritis.
So well recovery has been long and at times quite difficult there have been weird and odd events along the way
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: Jennifer Rubin:
RedDirtGirl
I just signed up for the Brooklyn March. Always happy to meet up with other Jackals. The only thing that might keep me away is if I am in the middle of bringing home my new (as yet to be identified) rescue dog!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Ladyracterinok:
Sorry you had to go through all that! That would be awful going outside on your patio just to be reminded somebody was shot and killed just nearby if you had still had lived there
germy
@The Thin Black Duke:
AM in NC
I and all of my friends (and my mom, if her chemo treatment will allow it) will be marching in Raleigh to show the tools in our General Assembly that we won’t go down without a serious fight. We went to DC last time, but this time we want the state assholes to feel our wrath.
I’m a mild-mannered, well off, suburban mom, and I am being moved toward violent civil disobedience by this asshole minority who is determined to rule over the majority of us.
Baud
@germy:
That’s remarkable given how low WY’s population is.
Raoul Paste
I hope there are masks aplenty at these anticipated public demonstrations
rikyrah
@Scout211:
Good.
If the muthaphuckas are going to strike down Roe,
they are going to have to strike it down, and not hide behind more shadow docket bullshyt.
say it with your chest, muthaphuckas.
You gonna strike it down – bring it.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Yeah, given how Wyoming’s population is the same as a mid-size metro area
Baud
@Raoul Paste: I’m sure there will be plenty of pussy masks.
WaterGirl
@germy: Indigenous women and girls are disposable. Black girls and women, also. Hispanic, too, I’m sure. And prostitutes. And young girls who are trafficked.
Disgusting.
There were some really terrific episodes that dealt with this issue, and with race, on Station 19 last season.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I’m sure you are right.
I can’t wait to see all the pussy masks.
Baud
UncleEbeneezer
To all the Pasadena area jackals, as of right now, the plan for Sat 10/2 is that there’s going to be a car parade from the Rose Bowl to City Hall where there will be a rally. My Indivisible group (and others) will be standing on the “noise making” bridge (probably Los Robles) overlooking the 210 freeway to cheer, hold signs and rouse some rabble, in coordinated attire (yet to be determined) and then walk a couple blocks to City Hall.
Our plan is to meet there at 10 am. If any of the details changes I’ll post them here again or in a follow up thread. So if you have any interest, by all means, come on out and join us. It should be fun. And I know a couple of the women who will be speaking at the rally and they are really inspiring and awesome
You can also sign up to volunteer with PP/WM here. They are looking for event speakers, people to help with traffic/logistics, photographers, parking etc.
MagdaInBlack
@WaterGirl: I think “they” feel we are all disposable, it’s just different levels of visibility that decides if the disappearance is noticed or not.
I did not realize I was this cynical, but apparently I am. These last 5 + years have really brought it out in me.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
This debt ceiling limit hostage taking BS has got to stop. The GOP is actively putting the entire world in peril. Perhaps a member of our esteemed media should ask the old fuck about this in those terms. Place the responsibility on them
Chief Oshkosh
@Wag: Yeah, but man oh man, what an indictment of her judgement. If you look at the list of why she voted for every Republican for president since Reagan, and only stopped that nasty habit when Trump was the candidate, you realize that here is a person with ZERO judgment — naive, at best.
ETA:
What the FUCK did she think Reagan was all about???
ETA II: But I am happy that she’s writing for Democracy now.
UncleEbeneezer
And THANK YOU to WaterGirl for posting/signal boosting all of this. YOU ROCK!!!
rikyrah
@germy:
And why, so many Republicans were against the re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act – because they were going to strenghthen the power of the tribes to go against THOSE WHO ATTACKED the women from tribes that were attacked in those states.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@The Thin Black Duke:
So it’s
Laundrie killed Petito, then killed himself, because walking away from a bad relationship is too hard? I will never understand that kind of shit.
OR
Some asshole killed them both of them, because Wyoming. And considering the sheer number of native American women who go missing, the later is quite likely, but no one gave a shit until it was a pretty blonde who turned up dead. Misogyny, Racism and shere callous indifference all at the same time. Totally fucked up.
Almost Retired
The Los Angeles march is the usual Pershing Square-to- City Hall route at 10:00 a.m. That makes for some close-packed crowds on relatively narrow (for Los Angeles) streets, and I would prefer walking down a broad boulevard like Wilshire. But, the organizers says COVID protocols are in place. The DTLA and Hollywood BLM marches last Summer weren’t the super-spreader events many feared, so outdoors and masked (and vaccinated) is fine with me.
My employment lawyers’ group habitually makes plans to meet up at a designated location for these marches, and inevitably we mostly never manage to find each other. This one will be the same. But I wouldn’t miss it.
WaterGirl
@MagdaInBlack: I don’t think that’s cynical. I think that’s a fair description.
Assuming that “they” is not all males.
White girl goes missing, there’s a manhunt. Native American, hispanic or black girl goes missing. Shrug. They must have run away!
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
to go against those who ATTACKED the women from tribes in those states.
StringOnAStick
Just signed up for the Women’s March here in Bend, OR on Oct 2. I remembered packing my pink hat before we moved here, but I have to remember where I last saw it!
germy
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Laundrie drove back across country in her van after she disappeared. He didn’t disappear in Wyoming.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: That was confusing, so I took the liberty of editing your original comment. Hope that’s okay.
Omnes Omnibus
@Chief Oshkosh: I don’t think we are supposed to judge. We are supposed to welcome the new people. I still say we take their votes and voices it don’t let them near the levers of power until they prove their bonafides. Also too, there is the fun of converts being more Catholic than the Pope. I do enjoy lectures from people who have been Dems for six minutes on how I am Democrating the wrong way.
RaflW
The map is great, but I noticed, for example, an event in Saint Louis Park, MN titled “Reproduction Rights of Woman”. Now it could certainly be that the organizer is not a native English speaker, but I’m going to opt for the much more official looking event at Loring Park in Minneapolis. I guess an open-access map may have some of this variability.
Keep Calm but Make a Ruckus!
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: Yeah! Hilarious. Tom Nichols specializes in the same thing.
germy
I remember Patrice O’Neal talking about the media and missing women:
https://youtu.be/kYKJ2z7mecQ?t=51
rikyrah
@WaterGirl:
No problem. thank you.
Omnes Omnibus
@StringOnAStick: Signed up for Madison, WI.
MagdaInBlack
@WaterGirl: I suppose “they” is the gd patriarchal misogyny that is embedded in our system, regardless of color or gender. I guess I should call it…. “IT.” ?
sixthdoctor
Will be in DC with my wife; she picked up on the march the second it was announced and would’ve gone that second if she could.
Elizabelle
Booked my DC area hotel for that weekend. Thank you for the head’s up, WaterGirl.
JCJ
@WaterGirl:
I see that saying often on this website, but as a man married to a woman with a history of mental illness resulting in three hospitalizations and other episodes where in a decent country she would have been hospitalized (my daughter has PTSD from seeing my wife’s actions) I would say that I fear my wife might kill me when psychotic.
WaterGirl
@JCJ: That is surely stressful and worrisome for all involved. I am very sorry that you and your whole family are having to deal with this. Including your wife.
As a description of cultural truths in this country, where there is no mental illness involved, I stand by the overwhelming truth of that quote.
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: You are welcome! I hadn’t heard about it until Uncle Eb sent me email, so I thought others might be in the same boat.
Ruckus
@MagdaInBlack:
Cynical is not a fixed response, unless your response is always 100% cynical. I think being a democrat would likely limit ones percentage of cynical because we see, or at least attempt to see the real world, not some fairy tale or hate filled hot take. Yes we’d like to change the world but we also want to see it (far) more equitable rather than more restrictive. We’d like to see the rather to uber level wealthy pay a better tax rate, which often they pay a lessor rate than people who hold a daily working stiff job. Cynicism is easy though if, like currently, the political opposites are doing everything they can to screw up life ( and liberty and that pursuit thing) by telling us that it can only get worse so why bother. republicans know this and the news organizations owned by wealthy republicans make sure that we only hear that one side. They will lie, steal and cheat to make their false prophet, that golden calf thing, the one that rules.
taumaturgo
Are these the same white, conservative suburban women who since the ’50s have consistently voted Republican, including 2020? Not a lot of room for hope.
Ruckus
@Chief Oshkosh:
That was the sales pitch, not the actual politics. It was often delivered smoothly that it was harder to detect. Now? It’s in your face, come and get me, I’m going to win. That’s not true for everyone or even the majority, it’s just that minds change slowly and they have to be somewhat open in the first place to even be available to change. The last guy made smooth impossible and change almost inevitable, but it will take time. Hopefully we have enough of that.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@germy: I would offer the whole obsession with The Pretty Blonde Girl in Peril leads to a lot of bad stuff in our society. It pretty much tells everyone else they are trash and can expect no mercy when they are in trouble (all those missing Native Americans, for example). The more aggressive ones lash out in violence in revenge.
Aardvark Cheeselog
Because it’s an open thread, and I have not made an off-topic shitpost at BJ in a very long time, I feel OK about leaving this here.
The other day I was reading this item at the WaPo (that’s a gift article link! You can get past the paywall with it!) and was moved to comment on this passage:
In what I thought was a tongue-in-cheek bit of irony, I posted the comment
Brethren, I got ratioed. Nine replies (nothing I post there ever gets more than 1-2) and zero likes. You can go look at the comments if you like, but the bloodthirsty vindicativeness of the median response was disheartening.
If you think prison conditions are too inhumane for a black guy that got falsely accused of being a rapist, you should think that they’re too inhumane for somebody truthfully accused of insurrection. In my humble opinion.
Woodrow/asim
I think politically that holds water. I don’t need Democrats on Capitol Hill to get into rhetorical fistfights over this stuff. Whomever we can pull in to stop this crap, we do that shit.
And yet. If we don’t make clear to folx like Rubin how deep the rabbit hole of GOP conservatism goes, and its long-standing ties to racist ideology, we risk ending up right back where we started. 20th Century conservatism was playing footsie with White Supremacy at least a decade+ before Thurmond jumped ship, yet that’s an inconvenient truth only historians really talk about. And even that talk is pretty recent.
Before that? Well, lots of people really wanted The Lost Cause to be true, because that was a nice peaceful belief that kept the Union together. The cost was just keeping Blacks (and many other citizens) as second-class folx, while White Northerners got, er…(checks notes) Yankee jokes?
Going back to my 1st paragraph — Democrats should know this history, because it informs the fight. But it can’t define the fight, because many, many people aren’t aware of any of this, and would resist it, er it came out like a sledgehammer of racist truths. As much as we all need to learn this, we also need to boil the frog around it, because we’re not conditioned, as a country, to have anything like a healthy talk around racism.
(Hint: You can bet many of the people abusing the 1619 Project and CRT to stop discussing race in schools, know this background intimately.)
debbie
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
No way. The “finance’s” refusal to talk and his parents’ refusal to “mention” their son hadn’t been heard from for a few days? He fucking killed her. If you are looking for “some asshole,” look for him.
MagdaInBlack
@Ruckus: What is it called when you honestly believe in the goodness of people and that they’ll do the right thing, given the opportunity, and yet you’re not the least bit surprised when they instead choose to be assholes, as a group or individually?
rikyrah
???
Ryan Clarke (@RyanTClarke) tweeted at 0:29 PM on Mon, Sep 20, 2021:
BREAKING: A staff member at Mabel Rush elementary school in Newberg showed up to work in Blackface on Friday, allegedly saying she was dressed as Rosa Parks and protesting a vaccine mandate for teachers.
Statement from @NewbergSchools on the latest racist incident: https://t.co/J1HHc2X9wl
(https://twitter.com/RyanTClarke/status/1440005294914867200?s=03)
WhatsMyNym
@germy: The headline is BS
WaterGirl
@Aardvark Cheeselog: Your description doesn’t give me enough information.
Were you catching flack by the anti-insurrection people for saying that prison conditions suck for everyone? Thereby showing sympathy for the insurrectionist?
Or were you catching flack by the insurrection supporters for caring about prisoners besides this white supremacist piece of shit?
The Thin Black Duke
@rikyrah: Dear God.
Aardvark Cheeselog
@WaterGirl:
Solid citizens who are of the opinion that bologna (without bread?) and bread & tartar sauce sandwiches are too good for him. He should learn not to crime, and if he can’t he should starve
ETA: I personally am of the opinion that
taumaturgo
@MagdaInBlack: Proven right?
Betty Cracker
@rikyrah: This vaccine mandate is an unprecedented and golden opportunity to get rid of so many morons, racists, nutcases and oppositional defiant-disordered crybabies in one fell swoop.
The Thin Black Duke
@debbie: Petito was caught in an abusive relationship. The bad shit usually gets worse at the point where the woman tries to leave. All the red flags the guy is waving around gets ignored. And then the worse thing happens.
MagdaInBlack
@taumaturgo: Old age and experience? ?
WaterGirl
@debbie: thank you. I was trying to figure out how to say that.
debbie
@rikyrah:
Good fucking god.
MagdaInBlack
@The Thin Black Duke: That’s what I said when I saw the video : abusive relationship.
( I have some personal familiarity with that type of relationship trap)
debbie
@The Thin Black Duke:
I don’t think there’s a brighter red light in all the universe. ?
I heard something about his parents picking up his car from somewhere and still waiting to report him missing. I want them prosecuted right alongside their son.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke: My thought, also, and then i saw a tweet on that page that’s even worse.
Are the feds actually on horseback, using whips on Haitians who are seeing asylum? Or is this made-up bullshit? I seriously can’t tell anymore.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
You can always count on me for some sort of obscene remark.
This case really infuriates me. How many times does this have to happen before people start acting proactively? And don’t even get me started on the parents.
WaterGirl
@Aardvark Cheeselog: I agree on all 3 points:
taumaturgo
@MagdaInBlack: Experience yes, old age, unfortunately, doesn’t bestow wisdom naturally. Look at the demographics that have the highest approval rating for Trump, Gen X w/o a college education, and Baby Boomers.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Absolutely!
WaterGirl
@MagdaInBlack: What video are we talking about?
Another Scott
@Aardvark Cheeselog: Pretrial detention is not supposed to be punishment because the people have not been convicted and are legally presumed innocent.
Yeah, everyone should be treated better. I think a strong case can be made that few if any of the 1/6 people should be held in detention while COVID infection rates are high – the risk of serious illness and even death is too high. (Ankle monitors, frequent check-ins, no travel, etc., instead.)
So, I agree with you.
(It’s one of Popehat’s hobby-horses, too.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Suzanne
I was actually planning to be in DC that day with SuzMom to tour. Maybe we’ll reschedule. Maybe we’ll come. Juicer meetup?!
Omnes Omnibus
@Another Scott: American society is very pro-punishment. As general rule, Americans approve of longer sentences for all crimes than the rest of the industrialized world. We still have the death penalty. We also seem to support harsher treatment than other countries do. Prison rape and violence is accepted as inevitable but unfortunate. For us, it seems that the loss of freedom isn’t enough in itself. It, IMO, exposes any ugly side of our society.
CarolPW
@WaterGirl: Washington Post photo. Classic rodeo setup: chaps, cutting horse, bullwhip, fancy bridle and saddle girth. The only thing different than a rodeo cowboy cutting out a steer is the look of hatred on the agent’s face. Those “enforcing” immigrant issues in that part of the boarder are evil top to bottom, and they need to be removed.
RevRick
It’s important that men also take a public stand on matters of women’s rights. I wrote a letter to the editor to my local paper which appeared In Thursday’s edition, denouncing the Supreme Court’s sneaky non decision allowing the Texas abortion law to stay.
This is not just a concern for women. It’s about basic human justice.
cain
I’ll be doing the march here in Portland. For once, it will be a march where I won’t have to deal with the ridiculous anarchists. It’s the one time that these people don’t infilitrate a protest and try to cause trouble.
One kid tried and some 70 year old women, yelled at him and he took off with his tail between his legs. Dont fuck with these women they will eat you for lunch.
phdesmond
@The Thin Black Duke:
that’s an interesting venue. i like your essay.
Ken
Last weekend’s “rally” had, what, 200 reporters — more? — to cover a dozen cosplay enthusiasts. I wonder how many reporters will show up for the Women’s March, and how much airtime it will get?
Baud
@Ken:
In fairness, the media hoped there would be bloodshed.
Roger Moore
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
We know it’s not that, because he disappeared from Florida after driving back- in her van- and getting a lawyer to say he wasn’t going to talk to the police. It seems most likely to me that he’s hiding, though suicide after being found out is always a possibility.
Scout211
@debbie:
That part of what (so far) has been reported in the media about this case is indeed, disturbing. It’s probably too soon to make any definitive conclusions on their parenting decisions (now and in the young man’s earlier years) but it is all very disturbing.
WaterGirl
@CarolPW: Fire all of them. And charge them with something.
germy
@WhatsMyNym:
710 Indigenous people, mostly girls, were reported missing over the past decade in Wyoming
“BS! Only 57% were female! And most of them were kids!”
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Betty Cracker: Yes… and no. They get kicked out of positions of influence and power, which is great. The problem is they are still around, only more bitter, angry, and radicalized with time on their hands. That does worry me.
Roger Moore
@Aardvark Cheeselog:
I absolutely agree. I also think many of the rioters, certainly the ones who are only charged with misdemeanors, deserve to be let out without bail. Bail should be the exception, not the rule, and we should do as much as we can to keep people out of jail and at least potentially still contributing to society while they wait for trial. Bail should be limited to cases where there’s a real reason to wonder if the person will show up for trial, and even then should be avoided if there are other ways of ensuring they show up. Remand should be limited to cases where there’s a documented reason to believe the person is likely to re-offend.
debbie
@Scout211:
I can’t help but be reminded of the father of the Stanford swimmer-rapist who based his request for leniency on the fact his son’s behavior was really only “20 minutes of fun.”
Gvg
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: but I am afraid of them in positions of power and influence. They are bad apples.
Maybe we need retraining programs to reprogram some of them, but that photo of the bully’s driving the migrants is over the line for instance. The border patrol is full of shit people. Certain police forces are also totally bead apples.
Roger Moore
@germy:
I think the important point is that a large majority of those missing persons are found pretty quickly. In the actual event, most missing persons are people who leave their family because of some kind of dispute: kids who think their parents are unfair, unhappy (or abused) spouses, and the like. Many of those people turn up pretty quickly or at least let someone know they’re OK, and it’s often clear to the people who report them missing that kind of thing is what’s happening. That’s very different from the Petito case, where she suddenly went incommunicado and her fiance returned home a few days later without her. It looked like foul play from day one.
ETA: My main connection to this kind of thing was acting as a contact for a friend who was leaving her emotionally abusive husband. She wanted everyone to know she was safe and someone to know where she was, but she trusted me more than her family not to try to send her back to her husband.
Kay
I’ll go to the Columbus march. I’m bringing my friend Michelle.
Shana
@Chief Oshkosh: That struck me too about her recitation of her voting history. Clearly she wasn’t paying enough attention to what the Rs were doing all those years. Probably because their actions didn’t effect HER.
Like way too many Rs they can’t empathize with anyone else’s positions or circumstances until it effects them personally.
Miki
I’m going to look for whoever can make it as big and powerful as it was in St. Paul on January 21, 2017. Seriously – that day, that happening, was beyond spectacular.
Laura Too
@Miki: I signed up for Loring Park. Maybe see you there?