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Sunday Morning Garden Chat: Gardens From Scratch

by Anne Laurie|  October 31, 20217:26 am| 56 Comments

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From beloved commentor MomSense:

Thought I’d send some photos of our neighborhood garden. It started with the compost bins [bottom photo] and a few raised beds and expands a bit every season.

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The garden is next to a fire lane between our neighborhood and another development. It went from an overlooked area to a happy place.

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This was a leaf pile last summer and now it’s the start of a new flower/herb garden.

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What’s going on in your garden(s), this week?

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 31, 2021 at 7:28 am

    That is a very cute scarecrow. Does it really scare off crows, though?

    ETA: Community/neighbourhood gardens are such a great idea on so many levels! MomSense, I hope you’ll continue to provide photos and stories of this one’s progress.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    October 31, 2021 at 7:31 am

    That’s very nice.

  3. 3.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 7:34 am

    Love it! Was there a lot of red tape to get permission for the community garden?

  4. 4.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 7:35 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Ir keeps growing.  Past the raised beds is an overflow area.  I plant my pole beans there but it’s full of all kinds of things.  And then past that is a huge pumpkin patch.  The little flower bed is across the lane.  We are going to expand it and hopefully add bees next year.

  5. 5.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 7:36 am

    I think that carp hanging trees would atract crows, not scare them off. ;)

  6. 6.

    debbie

    October 31, 2021 at 7:38 am

    That is one abundant garden!

  7. 7.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 7:40 am

    @satby:

    Not so much red tape, but some convincing of the HOA.  We started with the compost bins.  Then we added four raised beds.  Then people asked to join and we kept adding more area.  We pay for the water and our own plants.
    The one thing they haven’t agreed to is keeping bees.  The man who started the garden is a beekeeper and he thinks we will get the OK to have bees for next summer.

  8. 8.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 31, 2021 at 7:42 am

    I love community gardens, they just look like a bunch of folks having fun. Probably because they are.

  9. 9.

    Zinsky

    October 31, 2021 at 7:42 am

    Very impressive! That must have been a huge amount of work – thank you for beautifying America! We are wrapping up our gardens here in Minnesota, as there has already been a hard frost, so not much to show but brown vines and dying hostas. Lovely gardens.

  10. 10.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 7:43 am

    We’re heading into a full week of overnight frosts / freezes and daytime highs only in the 40°s, so now that the rain stopped I have just today to plant /mulch /clean up and generally batten things down for winter. Going to try to rig up a temporary green house for the two tomato plants with green tomatoes on them.

    Then, having done that, next week promises to be sunny and back in the mid to high fifties. Which is good, because the last hardy hibiscus (hibisci?) I ordered haven’t even been delivered yet.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    October 31, 2021 at 7:44 am

    Needs more moose.

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 31, 2021 at 7:45 am

    @MomSense:

    Having bees would be wonderful — not only for the valuable work they do (pollination), but also as a potential, if small, source of income. I’d buy raw honey from a community garden!

  13. 13.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 7:46 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Exactly!  It’s just a lot of fun and we get a ton of produce out of it. There is also a small garden sub-committee – the cannabis society.
    If we get snow this year hopefully we can build some igloos out there again.  That is really fun.

  14. 14.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 7:46 am

    Did anyone up north see the aurora last night? Cloudy all night here ?

  15. 15.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 7:47 am

    @MomSense: My God, you got a HOA to agree to such a big garden? I am in awe.

  16. 16.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 7:48 am

    @satby: Seeing that is tops on my wish list.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    October 31, 2021 at 7:48 am

    @sab:

    Me too.

  18. 18.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 7:49 am

    @satby:

    Nope.  Heavy rain all night.

     

     

    @sab:

    INORITE!  The compost bins did cut our trash production as promised.  It’s become a party place now.

  19. 19.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 7:52 am

    @Baud: I would settle for Southern Lights. I read that New Zealand has them, and NZ is also high on my wishlist.

  20. 20.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 7:53 am

    @sab:

    The last time I saw one was 18 years ago. I know it was because it was the night before I went into labor with my youngest.  I saw them more frequently when I was growing up,

  21. 21.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 31, 2021 at 8:03 am

    @sab: @Baud: They are something else.

  22. 22.

    JPL

    October 31, 2021 at 8:09 am

    @MomSense:  The garden is beautiful and a true labor of love.   Thank you for sharing.

  23. 23.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:13 am

    @sab: @Baud: mine too! 

    Edit: always wanted to go to Iceland to see them, now I’m leaning to above the Arctic circle in Lapland somewhere.

  24. 24.

    Betsy

    October 31, 2021 at 8:16 am

    I’m enjoying getting a few pansies into pots and the ground to bloom through the winter. Pansies are so tough — they can take hard freezes and keep flowering.

    One trick to making sure they have frost endurance is to make sure the tops don’t thaw in the sun while the roots and soil are still frozen —that will dry out the tops and  kill them — so if you have hard freezes without a snow cover, you have to plant them in a place or pot that is shaded in the morning, so the tops and bottoms thaw at the same time — as the day’s ambient temperature comes up above freezing.

    I’m starting a full time job and won’t be home as much, so I have to limit my winter garden to a few pansies and some kale and spinach and arugula.

    I got a few magenta pansies to go with some orange ones.  I love putting bright orange and deep dark pinks together.

    Then I went just a little past my self-imposed limits and picked up a few more that are bright yellow and bright blue.  Another color combination I can’t resist.

  25. 25.

    germy

    October 31, 2021 at 8:19 am

    Someone bought this spider costume for their dog and let him loose..?

    Oscar worthy? pic.twitter.com/JSfOX1MNBX

    — ? Ɣ ? (@V_its_me888) October 29, 2021

  26. 26.

    Immanentize

    October 31, 2021 at 8:22 am

    @MomSense: One more reason to visit you in Maine!

    Is the garden producing for everyone in the garden group? Or do you just produce for yourself and share if you like?

    Also, this can’t be your HOA, you have a barn!

  27. 27.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 31, 2021 at 8:23 am

    @germy: I’m a little embarrassed that I laughed at the screaming people.

  28. 28.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:24 am

    My brother in law wants us to go on an Alaska cruise. I find the idea of cruises claustrophobically horrifying. Of course I have never been on one. What are the chances of Northern Lights? I don’t know the time of year. I don’t know if we can count on the kids to tend the menagerie. My retirement is nothing like my parents was.

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 31, 2021 at 8:24 am

    @germy: I’ve got tears running down my face.

  30. 30.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:27 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I am embarrased to admit that I screamed with laughter. Poor little dog.

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 31, 2021 at 8:28 am

    @sab: The best chances of seeing them are in the colder months when the pole is more to the sun. We are currently coming out of a lull in the sun cycle:

    The Sun is stirring from its latest slumber. As sunspots and flares, signs of a new solar cycle, bubble from the Sun’s surface, scientists wonder what this next cycle will look like. The short answer is, probably a lot like the last — that is, the past 11 years of the Sun’s life, since that’s the average length of any given cycle. But the longer story involves a panel of experts that meets once a decade, a fleet of Sun-studying satellites, and dozens of complicated models — all revolving around efforts to understand the mystifying behavior of the star we live with.

    NASA scientists study and model the Sun to better understand what it does and why. The Sun has its ups and downs and cycles between them regularly. Roughly every 11 years, at the height of this cycle, the Sun’s magnetic poles flip — on Earth, that’d be like if the North and South Poles swapped places every decade — and the Sun transitions from sluggish to active and stormy. At its quietest, the Sun is at solar minimum; during solar maximum, the Sun blazes with bright flares and solar eruptions.

    Solar cycle predictions give a rough idea of what we can expect in terms of space weather, the conditions in space that change much like weather on Earth. Outbursts from the Sun can lead to a range of effects, from ethereal aurora to satellite orbital decay, and disruptions to radio communications or the power grid. NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center is the U.S. government’s official source for space weather forecasts, watches, warnings, and alerts: With accurate predictions, we can prepare.

    4 years from, now will be the maximum cycle.

  32. 32.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:33 am

    @sab: I think the best season for Northern lights is from late autumn to early March, depending on where you are. I’m not a cruise person, I don’t think, so cruises don’t appeal to me even though I love boats and being on the water. Not sure if they have winter cruises to Alaska, which is supposed to be the best time to see the lights.

  33. 33.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Good, I have time to save up ?

  34. 34.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:38 am

    @satby: Ha ha. You misspoke ” I don’t think, so cruises don’t appeal to me.” When did you ever not think?

  35. 35.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:41 am

    I made a Kodiak high protein pancake mix into a buttermilk-pumpkin quickbread this morning for breakfast. Pretty good, but now I’m kicking myself for not using maple syrup instead of sugar. Maple syrup glaze, here I come.

  36. 36.

    Immanentize

    October 31, 2021 at 8:44 am

    @satby: Oh fie on you! Buttermilk whole wheat blueberry pancakes here I come!!

  37. 37.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:44 am

    @sab: ?! I have constant comma disease and I try to edit them out before posting. I blame whichever nun taught us in grade school that commas go wherever you have a pause or change in the train of thought in a sentence.

  38. 38.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:45 am

    @Immanentize: send address plz. Can be there in 8 hours or so. Save me some.

  39. 39.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:48 am

    @satby: I battle with comma rules a lot

    ETA Distracts me from typos where I hit the next key on the keyboard from what I intended.

  40. 40.

    germy

    October 31, 2021 at 8:49 am

    @satby:

    James Thurber on his editor’s (over)use of commas:

    The New Yorker’s overuse of commas, originating in Ross’s clarification complex, has become notorious the world over among literary people. In Paris, in 1955, an English journalist said to me one night, “The biography of Ross should be called The Century of the Comma Man.” A professor of English somewhere in England wrote me ten years ago a long, itemized complaint about the New Yorker comma….He picked out this sentence in a New Yorker casual of mine: “After dinner, the men went into the living room,” and he wanted to know why I, or the editors, had put in the comma. I could explain that one all right. I wrote back this particular comma was Ross’s way of giving the men time to push back their chairs and stand up.

    Thurber goes on to recall a fight over whether “the red, white and blue” should be punctuated:

    I suggested, and still think I was right, that the style should be “the red white and blue” and I told Ross that. “All those commas make the flag seemed rained on. They give it a furled look,” I said. “Leave them out, and Old Glory is flung to the breeze, as it should be.”

    Finally, he admits that it took 10 years for him to come up with the comeback, “This magazine is in a commatose condition.”

  41. 41.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 8:52 am

    @germy: Oh that’s great! Love Thurber.

  42. 42.

    MomSense

    October 31, 2021 at 8:53 am

    @Immanentize:

    I don’t have a barn, yet.  I hope not to have a barn for a long time because it’s my dad’s barn.  I just spend a lot of time with him there and my son is the caretaker when they are in FL.  It’s a little over an hour  north of my house.

    We grow for ourselves but always end up sharing.

  43. 43.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:53 am

    @germy: OMG the Oxford comma battle again. I am firmly in the middle: sometimes it is a good idea.

  44. 44.

    debbie

    October 31, 2021 at 8:54 am

    @satby:

    Here, it’s supposed to happen tonight, and skies are supposed to clear up this afternoon!

  45. 45.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 8:57 am

    @debbie: You are down south near Columbus?

  46. 46.

    Nelle

    October 31, 2021 at 8:58 am

    I had eight summers above the Arctic Circle on Barter Island, just off Alaska’s north coast.   No northern lights,  as the sun was up from the end of May tl the end of July.  Before we married, mu now husband spent part of a winter up there (he was a bush pilot then) and said flying through them was amazing.  I have seen them in autumn and winter, camping on the Ambler River and living in Fairbanks.  Just gorgeous.

    They may have been lovely in Iowa last night but my booster shot yesterday is hitting me harder than the first two.  Even skipped Tai Chi group at the lake this morning.

  47. 47.

    debbie

    October 31, 2021 at 8:58 am

    @sab:

    Oxford commas should be mandatory; commas marking pauses, never!

    I’ve edited academic papers and those pausing commas drove me nuts.

  48. 48.

    debbie

    October 31, 2021 at 8:59 am

    @sab:

    Yes.

  49. 49.

    Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    October 31, 2021 at 9:02 am

    @satby:One a cruise ship they don’t really turn off enough lights for it to get dark. Disclaimer: I’ve been on only one cruise and that was from Miami to San Diego via the Panama Canal in the Celebrity Infinity. I know couldn’t see many stars from the upper deck and I tried!

    Also summer nights are long and the further north you go the lighter it stays at night.

  50. 50.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 9:08 am

    @debbie: I guess I will head of to the wide skies of Medina County tonight.

  51. 51.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 9:11 am

    @debbie: Often it is a good idea. Also, I don’t pronounce the t in often.

  52. 52.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 9:27 am

    @MomSense: That garden looks amazing. Kudos.

    I tried to do a German  highbed or container (forgot the German for it)  garden this year, and the carpenter bees really liked the plant frame we built, so it just sat in the driveway all summer while the bees went in and out. Freeze this week so we will move it out then to where it belonged. So I can put in two years of gardening stuff I was savingfor it.

  53. 53.

    sab

    October 31, 2021 at 9:45 am

    @sab: Hugelkultur?

  54. 54.

    satby

    October 31, 2021 at 10:04 am

    @sab: Hugelkultur building a garden bed on top of dead logs and tree limbs as well as other garden refuse like grass clippings and leaves. W Which you could certainly do within a raised bed frame instead of just a pile on the ground.

  55. 55.

    eclare

    October 31, 2021 at 11:02 am

    @sab:   Most cruises to AK go in the summer, when it never truly gets dark, so no chance of seeing the Northern Lights.

  56. 56.

    J R in WV

    October 31, 2021 at 1:27 pm

    @satby: 

    I’m not a cruise person, I don’t think, so cruises don’t appeal to me even though I love boats and being on the water.

    Lindblad Expeditions specializes in small ships, some of which are ice-breakers for touring Antarctica and the Arctic. We too hate crowds and could never do Carnival or Disney type cruises, but the 76-person whale watching cruise we did to Baja California and the Sea of Cortez was great. We really enjoyed it, no fancy dress-up for dinners, nice bar, great naturalists and guides on the zodiac boats. So I would feel safe in recommending their small cruises to see the Northern Lights, or the Southern Lights for that matter!

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