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Ron Klain Expected to Step Down in Early Spring

by WaterGirl|  January 21, 20234:09 pm| 57 Comments

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Ron Klain has been in the job longer than most people stay in that role, but still, I will be sorry to see him go.  He will remain COS for a few weeks after the State of the Union, and then he will remain in the West Wing for awhile after that to help with the transition.

The decision was apparently made before the “document” news broke, but I imagine that being in the news makes this more awkward.

h/t on the news that Klain is stepping aside:  Baud

CNN article:

On his departure, Klain will be among the longest-serving first-term chiefs of staff for a Democratic president in recent memory, a fact that hasn’t been lost on people inside the White House.

It is difficult to overstate his intense involvement in every facet of major decisions made during Biden’s first two years as president. During the first half of the administration, deliberations big and small – and everything ranging from political to policy issues – would not only have Klain’s fingerprints but, most often, some level of his direct involvement. When lawmakers, political allies and policy advocates alike have been asked over the past two years who their direct contact was at the West Wing on any given issue, they have often been prone to respond with simply one word: “Ron.”

The veteran political operative’s tenure has been marked by a series of key legislative accomplishments for the White House, as well as his predilection for tweeting his opinions on a variety of topics at all hours of the day.

Klain’s expected decision marks one of the first high-profile departures from an administration characterized by low turnover over its first two years.

Is it too much to ask that it not be Vilsack?  (please please please not Vilsak, I have never forgiven him for Shirley Sherrod)

Still, officials have been quietly weighing his potential replacements, with names including Steve Ricchetti, the counselor to the president and one of Biden’s closest advisers for years; Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack; Labor Secretary Marty Walsh; Jeff Zients, the former Obama administration official who ran Biden’s Covid-19 response operation; and Anita Dunn, the senior adviser who runs the White House communications and messaging operation, among others.

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    57Comments

    1. 1.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:14 pm

      Is Neera good at all the things that make a good chief of staff?  That would surely make heads explode.  In a good way.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 4:15 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      Manchin and Sanders hate her, and CoS has to have a good relationship with Congress.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:17 pm

      @Baud: Well, I hate Manchin and Sanders, so doesn’t that cancel their hate out?

      Reply
    4. 4.

      PsiFighter37

      January 21, 2023 at 4:17 pm

      I would have thought Anita Dunn would be the top choice, but per the above article she is apparently not interested. I think an inspired choice could be Denis McDonough, who was Obama’s CoS for the entire second term. Someone who has already done the job competently and can guide the ship through what may be stormier times so that more seasoned aides can join the (likely) 2024 campaign as needed. They would need a new VA secretary, but I imagine there are probably a good pool of candidates that could be found there.

      I hope it’s not someone like Susan Rice, who I don’t think is qualified and doesn’t make a ton of sense in her domestic policy-oriented role, given her background was in foreign policy.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 4:18 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      In a just world, it would.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:18 pm

      I am not much of a grudge-holder in my personal life, but I have not gotten over the poor judgment Tom Vilsak showed when he fired Shirley Sherrod before he had all the information.

      He is every bad boss we have all had who makes decisions based on only one side of the story.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:19 pm

      @Baud:  Thank you, Baud.  I appreciate that you always have my back.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:20 pm

      @PsiFighter37:

      Denis McDonough as COS is a good thought!  When Biden calls to ask my opinion, I’ll share that idea with him.  Giving you the credit, of course.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      la caterina

      January 21, 2023 at 4:21 pm

      It should be “Klain” up top.   /pedant

      Reply
    10. 10.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      January 21, 2023 at 4:21 pm

      Martin Sheen would be a good choice, he knows the west wing inside and out

      Reply
    11. 11.

      dmsilev

      January 21, 2023 at 4:24 pm

      Is Jared available?

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 21, 2023 at 4:31 pm

      OT:  I may get banned from Twitter.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:32 pm

      @la caterina: Crazy.  I know it’s Klain, as I got it right in my h/t Baud.  Apparently my fingers had other ideas!

      Fixed in the other spots.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      jonas

      January 21, 2023 at 4:33 pm

      I thought having the COS’s office being a rotating circus of assclowns was how a president showed he was “keeping it real” or whatever the kids say these days.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: It will be for a good cause.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Heh, you probably will get banned

      ETA: I’m going to head out and get some burritos for my b-day dinner before heading off to my wage slavery at the Home of the Orange Apron.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 4:37 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

      Happy birthday!

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 21, 2023 at 4:39 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: HBD, Billin.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 4:39 pm

      @Baud:

      @Omnes Omnibus: Thanks.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 4:40 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: They make you work on your birthday?

      Bastards!

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Miss Bianca

      January 21, 2023 at 4:45 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Heh. It will have been for a worthy comment, therefore a worthy cause?

      (from one who actually follows you on Twitter but can’t be arsed to even remember what my user name or password are, which shows you how much I’m actually *following* on Twitter.)

      Reply
    22. 22.

      CaseyL

      January 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Happy Birthday!  Hope you have a chance to do something fun this weekend.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Tom Levenson

      January 21, 2023 at 4:58 pm

      C. J. Craig is rested and ready…

      Reply
    24. 24.

      eclare

      January 21, 2023 at 5:06 pm

      @WaterGirl:   I had forgotten about that, thank you for reminding me.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      sab

      January 21, 2023 at 5:06 pm

      @WaterGirl: Why not blame Benjamin Jealous and the NAACP who were screaming for blood at the time because of something posted on Breitbart? How is Vilsak supposed ro stand up for her when the NAACP was screaming to have her fired?

      I am still mad as hell about what happened, but let’s blame everyone involved in the railroading and not just one guy even if he was her boss. He also answered to higher ups.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 5:06 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Happy Birthday!

      I live in a Mexican-food desert. I am craving it. I keep thinking I have to learn how to make it myself, but my husband doesn’t like it, so it doesn’t seem worth it.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      JAFD

      January 21, 2023 at 5:08 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Happy Birthday !

      The sun is setting now in NYC, last day until November ’twill set before 5:00 PM.

      The weather station in Central Park is about two weeks from breaking the record for ‘Longest stretch without measurable snowfall’ (set in 1973 – I remember that winter, had just taken job that required lot of driving, spent near a weeks salary on snow tires, didn’t need them that year :-( )

      Go Iggles !

      Reply
    28. 28.

      eclare

      January 21, 2023 at 5:09 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:   Happy Birthday!

      Reply
    29. 29.

      PsiFighter37

      January 21, 2023 at 5:15 pm

      @JAFD: It has been a disappointing season for snow. As aggravating as it can be, I remember when we would get multiple snowstorms in the mid-1990s. Now, we’re lucky if there’s even one major snowstorm in the NYC region. I’d love for my daughter to get to play in snow more as she’s older, but I have my doubts. At least we got one nice dump that allowed her to have some fun, albeit somewhat limited since she was 2.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 5:22 pm

      @sab: I don’t recall that part.  Plenty of blame to go around, for sure.  It’s still up to the boss to not make a decision when they don’t know the whole story.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Josie

      January 21, 2023 at 5:27 pm

      @zhena gogolia: ​
       Take a look at this site. I have ordered from them and they do a good job of packing and shipping. Not cheap but fun for a treat.
      https://texaslonestartamales.com

      Reply
    32. 32.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 5:31 pm

      @Josie: Interesting!

      Reply
    33. 33.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 5:34 pm

      @WaterGirl: Oh, not only that, but this is hump day for my seven straight days of working(Wed-Tues).

      @CaseyL: Nope, just work.

      @zhena gogolia: I walked over to King Taco, not enough time to wait for them to make it and get ready for work, maybe next year.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      James E Powell

      January 21, 2023 at 5:34 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

      Happy Birthday! Birthday burritos? I will keep that in mind as I approach my own. I generally go with something my doctor says I should avoid eating.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 5:36 pm

      @JAFD:

      @eclare: Thanks, now just getting ready for work.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 5:37 pm

      @James E Powell: I think an all meat burrito with added cheese would qualify.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 5:42 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: How did they schedule me for seven days straight?  Well it was originally 6 days, 2 off, then 6 days.  But they fired one of my co-workers who also closed so they needed to cover his time with part time folk, who can only work certain days, so I ended up being scheduled(without any notification via the scheduling app or even asked) for an additional day for this week(now 7 days), off Wed, work Thursday, off Friday.  I may take Thursday as my first “sick” day.  I’ve been there a year and a half and only taken one day(vacation) off.

      ETA: With the two consecutive days off, I’d planned on going to the Owens Valley to shoot, if I stick to their schedule, I can’t do that.  I was more than pissed when I just happened to look at the schedule yesterday.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Another Scott

      January 21, 2023 at 5:53 pm

      Wikipedia tells me that Klain has two deputies:

      Jen O’Malley Dillon and Bruce Reed.

      It looks like JOMD ran Biden’s 2020 campaign, so he might want her doing that in 2024. That would seem to point to Reed moving up, if they want a minimal change in the way the office works. And he previously served as Biden’s COS as VP.

      Dunno. But they would seem to be decent options as well.

      We’ll see!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 5:55 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

      or my seven straight days of working

      Is that even legal for someone who is hourly?

      Reply
    40. 40.

      delphinium

      January 21, 2023 at 5:56 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Happy birthday! That sucks about the scheduling. You should definitely take Thursday off or at least see if you can switch the Thursday for the Friday off day.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Another Scott

      January 21, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Sorry for the heartburn, Billin.  :-(  I hope it’s a happy birthday anyway!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      JPL

      January 21, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Happy Birthday!

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 21, 2023 at 6:01 pm

      I’m sure Klain is great at his job, but

      they have often been prone to respond with simply one word: “Ron.”

      sounds like a journalist trying to make a guy named Ron doing what his job description says into a story.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      JPL

      January 21, 2023 at 6:01 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Any chance that you can talk to your manager about the schedule.   that really sucks

      Reply
    45. 45.

      PsiFighter37

      January 21, 2023 at 6:02 pm

      @Another Scott: I highly doubt O’Malley Dillon runs his 2024 campaign. I can’t recall the last time someone ran presidential campaigns in back-to-back elections. As for Bruce Reed, he was a cofounder of the DLC. No thanks.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 6:12 pm

       

       

      @sab: Vilsack’s reputation problem illustrates a fact of public life. Very few of the good things someone does get noticed. One mistep will be be used to characterize them though, by people who otherwise know  nothing about them and their work.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 6:26 pm

      @Geminid: That said, I think Joe Biden will be better of picking someone other than Vilsack for his next Chief of Staff. Justified or not, baggage is baggage and there are others as good or better for the job.

      Also, I think Congress needs to pass a new Farm Bill this year and that’s never easy. Vilsack’s capabilities are probably better used in his current job.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 6:26 pm

      @Geminid: We do know something about his judgment and about his management style, though, both of which are terribly important.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 6:46 pm

      @WaterGirl: Ron Klain deserved to have his name mispelled!

      I remember Ron telling me, “Don’t worry Geminid, I’ll never forget the little people. I will always appreciate the help you gave me with my spelling as I rose to the top.”

      Then he ghosted me. I thought that was very ungreatful.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 7:24 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus:

      You magnificent, crazy bastard!

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

      Happy birthday! 🥂

      Reply
    52. 52.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 7:35 pm

      @Geminid: I had no idea you guys were so close!  :-)

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 7:37 pm

      @zhena gogolia:

      I am seeing some good Mexican restaurants in central Connecticut on Google Maps. Monte Alban, Ocho Café? But maybe you’re farther south.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 7:41 pm

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

      Bummer. JIT (“just in time”) is supposed to be for inventory, not staffing!

      Reply
    55. 55.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 7:44 pm

      @WaterGirl: I thought we were.

      But I’m turning the page now.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 21, 2023 at 10:52 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      Is that even legal for someone who is hourly?

      Yes, even here in the People’s Republic of California.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      evodevo

      January 22, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @WaterGirl: ​
        If you are part-time, anything goes lol – just ask the PO about 60 hr weeks for RCAs and other not-full-timers. You get paid for overtime, but otherwise, no choice…

      Reply

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