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You are here: Home / Politics / Trump Indictments / Trump Is Testifying in the E. Jean Carroll Case (Open Thread)

Trump Is Testifying in the E. Jean Carroll Case (Open Thread)

by WaterGirl|  January 25, 20242:27 pm| 192 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

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Trump is testifying. I am in the middle of making spaghetti and meatballs, so I am still catching up on the twitter reports so I don’t know if Trump has screwed the pooch yet or not.

Trump Is Testifying in the E. Jean Carroll Case

Anyone else trying to follow this?

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:30 pm

    What we he testify to?

    An excellent question, as befits a judge

    They’re just trying to foist a campaign speech in front of whatever free audience they can find.

  2. 2.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 25, 2024 at 2:33 pm

    At the defense table, Trump also spoke loudly enough to be heard, saying he’d never met this woman. He sounded like some of my less coherent neighbors.

  3. 3.

    Dangerman

    January 25, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    Finally, someone with the marbles to tell Trump to his face that he can shut the fuck up.

  4. 4.

    hueyplong

    January 25, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    Glad the judge is plainly warning Habba up front instead of foolishly assuming small amounts of competence, good faith or ethical behavior on her part.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 2:35 pm

    Mmmmm bhasketghetti and meatballs!

  6. 6.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:38 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Mmmmm bhasketghetti and meatballs!

    I always do sausage. I’m never happy with my meatballs.

    There’s a metaphor there, somewhere.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 2:38 pm

    @hueyplong:

    Glad the judge is plainly warning Habba up front instead of foolishly assuming small amounts of competence, good faith or ethical behavior on her part. 

    “Now look here, you child who got your law degree out of a Cracker Jack box!”

  8. 8.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 2:39 pm

    So he was able to call Carroll politely call Carroll a liar on the stand, even though it was sustained.   He got what he wanted.

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    So I guess Trump’s “testimony” is over?  And tomorrow is closing arguments?

    So Trump’s idea of testifying is to mutter shit under his breath that he has been told he cannot say?

    Will no one rid us of this creature?

  10. 10.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    I’m never happy with my meatballs. 

    Well whose fault is that? 😁

    I buy a bag of frozen.  But I do like making a meat sauce.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    January 25, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    I’m never happy with my meatballs.

    There’s a metaphor there, somewhere.

     
    Or a rotating tag.

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: He makes a mockery of the justice system.  I just want this piece of shit gone from our lives.

    Since the testimony seems to be over, what else is going on?

  13. 13.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    January 25, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: Will no one rid us of this creature?

    Only the voters as you well know.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    I wasn’t happy with my last batch of meatballs that I made in the oven, baking them in the spicy spaghetti sauce.

    So today I’m trying something new – cooking them in the sauce on the stove.  Fingers crossed.

  15. 15.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Frozen meatballs are good. I choose sausage for another reason too. Gut them and use them instead of burger for a meat sauce, it’s an excellent cheat code. I find I spend way less time making small adjustments to my sauce because I don’t like the sweetness/acidity level. Papers that right over.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:44 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: That didn’t work so well in 2020, because he is still here.

  17. 17.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 2:44 pm

    “No, I just wanted to defend myself, my family and, frankly, the presidency,” Trump replied.

    If he wanted to defend the presidency, he’d move the North Korea with his family.   Maybe even build mar a lago two

  18. 18.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: I got recent advice for meatballs I want to implement. Ritz crackers soaked in milk.

  19. 19.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    @JPL: Where did he say that?  I was trying to follow along on Inner City Press.

  20. 20.

    different-church-lady

    January 25, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    I can’t imagine his behavior is doing anything but hurting him with the jury. “Eight million dollars for the assault and twelve million dollars for being an asshole.”

  21. 21.

    Baud

    January 25, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Republicans always think they can outlast us by wearing us down.

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 25, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    Yeah, Judge Kaplan is trending, it’s been a busy morning for court reporters.​

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Interesting.  I go with a mix of parmesan and panko bread crumbs.

    My problem is that sometimes i cook them too long, and sometimes I don’t cook them long enough.  I thought the stovetop would give me more control.

  24. 24.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    “Now look here, you child who got your law degree out of a Cracker Jack box!”

    “Why, that’s nothing but a two-bit degree from a crackerback jox!”
    -Regnad Kcin

  25. 25.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:47 pm

    @WaterGirl: We’ve always used Italian breadcrumbs in my house. I’ll try that too, thanks.

    @lowtechcyclist: That’s an insult to Cracker Jack.

  26. 26.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 2:48 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    If I may say so myself, I make most excellent meatballs.  Even better than my favorite local Italian place.

    As for Habba, she is going to regret this.  She may not think so right now (she’s just not all that bright), but she will.

  27. 27.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    January 25, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: That didn’t work so well in 2020, because he is still here.

    I think this time it will stick. Don’t count on my predictions though, my record isn’t so good.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    January 25, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    Vince McMahon Accused of Sex Trafficking by WWE Staffer He Paid to Keep Quiet
    Janel Grant files lawsuit saying McMahon pressured her into sex with him and other men at wrestling business, raising questions about 2022 board probe into CEO’s payouts

  29. 29.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    @geg6: If I may say so myself, I make most excellent meatballs. Even better than my favorite local Italian place.

    I’m jealous you have one.  Italian food around me is a wasteland of chains and dives not worthy of the name “dive.”

    Any meatball advice?

  30. 30.

    topclimber

    January 25, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    Since he cannot try to dispute the fact of sexual assault (already established in first case), what can he say on the stand except his new remarks were not defamatory? Renowned truth teller that he is, he will have no problem convincing the jury of that one.

  31. 31.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I never bake my meatballs.  Always cook them in the sauce on the stove.

  32. 32.

    Dangerman

    January 25, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: There’s a metaphor there, somewhere.

    Meat-a-poor?

  33. 33.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 2:51 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    I sometimes do both meatballs and sausage.  Yummy.

  34. 34.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 2:51 pm

    Judge Kaplan up top appears to be building a wall around Trump. A beautiful, beautiful wall and a wall that I may learn to cherish.

    Lawyer lady must be enjoying her billable hours.

  35. 35.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    January 25, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: my grandmother used squishy white bread, kneadad for a long time. Bemused Senior tried to copy her, they were good but never quite the same.

  36. 36.

    Alison Rose

    January 25, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: NYT has it on their liveblog:

    Habba asks Trump if he ever intended to hurt Ms. Carroll. He says no and then follows with: “I just wanted to defend myself, my family and, frankly, the presidency.”

  37. 37.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 2:56 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: It definitely seems my widest venue for exploration involves what bread to use

    ETA: Do you mean knead the bread before adding it or knead the whole mixed product for a long time?

  38. 38.

    topclimber

    January 25, 2024 at 2:59 pm

    @topclimber: Now you know what Stormy Daniels did. It was all over in three minutes.

    Memo to self: work on keyboard skills.

  39. 39.

    Jay

    January 25, 2024 at 3:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Always brown your meatballs before subjecting them to sauce.

    You can do it under a broiler, but it’s less fuss and less mess to just roll them around a frying pan.

    They need the Maynard reaction to preserve texture and amp the flavour.

  40. 40.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 3:03 pm

    @Jay: I just, now, learned what a Maillard reaction is. Fascinating. 🤨

  41. 41.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 3:04 pm

    @WaterGirl: The Washington Post      link

  42. 42.

    Butch

    January 25, 2024 at 3:04 pm

    Welp, from the Associated Press:

    Former President Donald Trump testified for just three minutes Thursday in a New York defamation trial to determine how much he might owe the advice columnist E. Jean Carroll for disparaging her as a liar after she publicly accused him of a decades-old rape in 2019.

    “She said something I considered a false accusation,” Trump said in testimony the highly anticipated appearance that lasted so briefly. A lawyer for Carroll objected and U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan told the jury to disregard the remark.

    Later, Trump said: “And I just wanted to defend myself, my family and frankly, the presidency.” That, too, drew an objection and another instruction from the judge for the jury to disregard it.

    As Trump left the courtroom after his testimony, he was shaking his head, repeatedly saying: “This is not America. This is not America. This is not America.”

  43. 43.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 3:05 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Yeah.  A nice Italian sausage sauce.  YUMM-O!

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @different-church-lady: LOL!

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: Mmmmmm cheesy meatballs!

  46. 46.

    Jay

    January 25, 2024 at 3:09 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    Knead the whole mixture. Pushes meat juice into the breadcrumbs, blends the spices in more, and changes the texture, making the meatballs more “sticky”.

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 3:10 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

     

    LOL

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 3:10 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Lawyer lady must be enjoying her billable hours. 

    You think she’s actually going to get paid.  Ha! Ha! Ha! :)

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    January 25, 2024 at 3:11 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    Too acidic? Add sliced or diced carrot and continue simmering until they’re soft.

  50. 50.

    Hoodie

    January 25, 2024 at 3:11 pm

    @Butch: Sha la la la la

  51. 51.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 3:12 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I have always cooked meatballs first and then put them in the sauce. Never occurred to me to bake them in the oven…hmmmmm

  52. 52.

    Kineslaw

    January 25, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @geg6: I make my meatballs half beef/half spicy Italian sausage.  Very tasty and a lot of the seasoning is already done.

  53. 53.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    Western PA is filled with great Italian places, some high end and some not so much.  But lots of good ones.  Many Italian immigrants came here to work in the steel mills.

    As I told WG above, never bake your meatballs.  Use ground chuck.  I try to use bread crumbs from a fresh Italian loaf (we also have have great Italian bread makers here).  No milk is needed if you use fresh and an egg or two, depending on how big your batch.  If you want garlic flavor infused into the meatball, use garlic powder, not fresh.  A little finely chopped onion (a couple tablespoons or so).  A pinch of red pepper flakes and a couple tablespoons of chopped fresh parsley.  Seasoning to your taste.  Cook in the sauce on the stove.  There is no recipe or I’d give it to you.  It’s something you get a feel for the more you do it.  My high school/post-high school boyfriend’s mother was from Italy.  She taught me a lot about Italian food.

  54. 54.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @Baud:

     

    yuck

  55. 55.

    Splitting Image

    January 25, 2024 at 3:14 pm

    I confess that I am completely astonished that he testified at all.

    On the other and, I’m not astonished that he ignored the judge’s instructions and used his minute-and-a-huff to call Carroll a liar. Hopefully the jury agrees and adds a few more millions to the settlement.

  56. 56.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 3:16 pm

    @WaterGirl: My favorite way to do meatballs is in the crockpot, in their sauce.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 3:17 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Right? But when I posed the question before I learned that she got a quarter-mil up front–can’t remember from whom, obviously not Donny.

  58. 58.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    January 25, 2024 at 3:17 pm

    @Jay @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    Yes, knead together. Also brown them first, then simmer. My grandmother would say, “first cook em fast, then slow.”

    No promises from me, though. Good luck.

  59. 59.

    RandomMonster

    January 25, 2024 at 3:17 pm

    So that’s it? His whole “testimony” lasted 3 minutes?

    So low energy. So beta.

  60. 60.

    FelonyGovt

    January 25, 2024 at 3:19 pm

    @WaterGirl: I have a good, reliable recipe for meatballs that involves first baking them in the oven (turning once) and then dumping them into the simmering sauce and letting them cook a little longer there.

  61. 61.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 3:19 pm

    @Jay:

    I advise the exact opposite of what you say about meatballs.  You never overwork the meat mixture and browning them before adding to the sauce does not allow for the flavor of the sauce to be absorbed by the meatball.  All those things make the meatball tough.  Maybe you like your meatballs stiff, but I prefer them to be soft pillows of meaty goodness.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    January 25, 2024 at 3:20 pm

    @geg6

    60/40 ground beef and ground pork is ::chef’s kiss::.

  63. 63.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 3:20 pm

    re. Meatballs–if you slide them into the sauce uncooked, how do get the Maillard reaction flavors? I brown them in a skillet and must be missing something….

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:22 pm

    @geg6: The first 3 times I baked them in the sauce, they were absolutely perfect.  As good or better than I had ever had at any Italian restaurant, even my favorite.

    They last time they weren’t done enough and it creeped me out.

    Today, they are perfect!  yay!

  65. 65.

    geg6

    January 25, 2024 at 3:27 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Some things call for a Maillard reaction and some don’t.  In my opinion, my experience and what I was taught by someone who made the best meatballs I’ve ever had, meatballs do not need it.  Browning before adding to the sauce changes the texture and lessens the flavor of the sauce infusing into the meatball.  If you prefer that harder texture, go ahead and brown them.  I prefer softer meatballs.

  66. 66.

    TBone

    January 25, 2024 at 3:27 pm

    @WaterGirl: Ina Garten roasted meatballs recipe is my new go to.  But I don’t add salt since the Parm is salty.  Key to meatball making is to not over mix or manhandle the mixture since that will result in tough meatballs (sad but true 😉).  I soak good torn bread in milk, then wring out, in place of breadcrumbs.

    https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/roasted-italian-meatballs-3500767

  67. 67.

    Hoppie

    January 25, 2024 at 3:28 pm

    @Jay: Ah, the Krebs approach.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:30 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: I thought you were supposed to mix anything with ground beef for the least amount of time possible, or it would make the meat tough.

  69. 69.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 3:31 pm

    Can the judge fine Ms. Habba, Esq., if her client doesn’t adhere to the narrow terms of testifying? I hope so. And I hope it’s a large sum. These attorneys have the right to practice law, but not to let their clients just vomit out bullshit.

  70. 70.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:33 pm

    @JPL: Thank you!

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 3:33 pm

    @Hoppie: I’m old enough to get that. :-)

    “Yo, Mister G.”

  72. 72.

    zhena gogolia

    January 25, 2024 at 3:34 pm

    @geg6: Interesting. I’ve never made meatballs because I hate browning stuff! Good to know you don’t have to.

  73. 73.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:35 pm

    @Butch:

    “This is not America. This is not America. This is not America.  In the America is in my head, I am King!  I can do anything I want!”

    I added (in bold) the part that clarifies everything.

  74. 74.

    UncleEbeneezer

    January 25, 2024 at 3:35 pm

    @geg6: From what I remember, this is basically my Sicilian-American Mom/Grandma’s recipe and they were fabulous meatballs.

  75. 75.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:37 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I don’t use enough that the meatballs come out cheesy.  I skip the salt because of the parmesan, which adds a nice flavor.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:38 pm

    @Jay: Meat juice = blood.  Ick.  Do not want. :-)

  77. 77.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 25, 2024 at 3:38 pm

    Gavin Newsom will be on MSNBC tomorrow night.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:39 pm

    @rikyrah: They have so much more flavor if cooked in the sauce, and the sauce has more flavor, too.

  79. 79.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 3:40 pm

    Family visits a few times a year and I’d love to have something like spagetti and meatballs, but with gluten free and dairy free, it’s too complicated.

    It’s easier to just have meat and potatoes, although one doesn’t like sweet potatoes.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:40 pm

    @Baud: I have no idea who those people are.  They seem nice.  //

  81. 81.

    smith

    January 25, 2024 at 3:41 pm

    Jack E. Smith ⚖️@7Veritas4
    44m

    Summarizing his testimony today:
    Trump: I have things to say!
    Judge: The fuck you do.
    The End.

  82. 82.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 3:41 pm

    @Butch: In as much as America has let white guys off the hook way too often, Trump is frustratingly correct.

    But one jury has already said he’s liable, and I don’t think his petty outburst today will do squat to save him from another hefty award.

    Heck, I recall someone here saying he was defaming Carroll again on False Social in recent days. Incorrigible, even if it costs him cash.

  83. 83.

    Roberto el oso

    January 25, 2024 at 3:42 pm

    Just curious as to whether any mention was made in court regarding Ms. Habba’s alleged illness and claim that one of her parents has come down with Covid? Photos are popping up of her at Trump’s victory party (after she claimed to not be feeling well) …. a few selfies with J6 freaks. These people are sooooo dumb.

  84. 84.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 25, 2024 at 3:43 pm

    @RaflW:
     

    These attorneys have the right to practice law

    It’s actually a privilege, not a right!

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:43 pm

    @trollhattan: You don’t get the mallard reaction, but you get super flavorful meatballs and sauce.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:45 pm

    @TBone: You will see from a couple of my other comments that we completely agree that parm means you don’t need salt, and that working the meat makes it tough.

  87. 87.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 25, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    @rikyrah:

    FYI, another ISP that has good reviews — although I’ve not used them myself — is MonkeyBrains.

    Also too, the Broke-Ass Stuart website has great calendar of events in the Bay Area.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:48 pm

    @JPL: Next time make your meat and potatoes, and also make mac & cheese and other yummy stuff and let them eat their hearts out.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:48 pm

    @smith: I hope Trump has to pay big time for flipping off the justice system.  And the rules.  And E. Jean Carroll.

  90. 90.

    Princess

    January 25, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    I’m on Team meatballs that aren’t briefly sauteed first before putting them in the sauce are gross.

    I’m also on Team I hope Carroll takes Trump to the cleaners and is actually able to collect. I suspect there is more blog unanimity for that position.

  91. 91.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: I do add mac and cheese for the grand imps, because they are not into meat.

  92. 92.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    @geg6: My partner’s aunt, who is 100% Italian-American from a long line of Milwaukee Italian-Americans, bakes her meatballs in sauce. But the sauce is only about 1/2 way up the meatballs, so the tops (after turning, I believe) get a good oven browning, yet are tender and delectable inside.

    These are fairly large meatballs, tho. Not baseball big, but like two meatballs is — with pasta and her amazing two-day sauce simmered with a whole pork neck — a full on meal.

  93. 93.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:50 pm

    @smith: That’s a fun tweet.

    I wish Trump hadn’t even gotten his two lines in.

    If anyone on that jury tries to protect Trump from financial consequences, it will not bode well for jury selection in the other trials.  Hopefully when jurors swear an oath it means something.

  94. 94.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    @RaflW: Dozens of times since the trial started.  Maybe even a dozen dozen.

  95. 95.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    @WaterGirl: Closing statements are tomorrow and I assume the judge will talk to Alina Habba before hand.

  96. 96.

    Jay

    January 25, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    @geg6:

    I do a long simmer in the sauce, the browned meatballs flavour the sauce and vice versa. The meatballs come out with just enough texture to hold together on a fork, and allow a careful stir from time to time. They also absorb less sauce, and so add a meaty contrast to the sauce. I don’t put chili in my meatballs, because I use Ukrainian Red Garlic, wazzed up into a paste, which has a heat note of it’s own. The onion and garlic paste adds moisture to keep the meatballs soft, and the heavy kneading allows the bread crumbs to reform gluten strands allowing the meatballs to keep their shape.

    I learned how to do it from my Abrutzi Outlaws Nonna, but, in order to be ready in time for dinner, everything needs to start simmering at noon at the latest.

  97. 97.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 3:52 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: I can’t argue with that!

    Speaking of which, is Rudy disbarred yet?

  98. 98.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:52 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I thought LAMH was asking for ISPs in CA.  Or maybe rikyrah was, too, and I missed it?

  99. 99.

    Citizen Alan

    January 25, 2024 at 3:53 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: Even the voters can’t make him physically go away if the media is obsessed with covering his every utterance. I’m not sure death would be the end of Shitgibbon’s media dominance at this point.

  100. 100.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:53 pm

    @JPL: Real mac and cheese, or the Kraft stuff with the powder?

    It’s good to indoctrinate kids with the real stuff when they are super young. :-)

  101. 101.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:55 pm

    @JPL: I have she gets a good (verbal) smackdown from him tomorrow.  She didn’t even pretend she was planning to follow the rules and control her client.

  102. 102.

    zhena gogolia

    January 25, 2024 at 3:56 pm

    @WaterGirl: oh, Gawd, his wife was trying to be our governor and our senator, but blissfully lost both times. She was Trump’s secretary of something or other, Commerce, I think.

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:56 pm

    @Citizen Alan: At this point we need them to cover Trump WORD FOR FUCKING WORD so people can see how little sense he makes now.

  104. 104.

    JGreen

    January 25, 2024 at 3:56 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: ​
      “i’ll sell it to you for $5000”.

    And, to save you the trouble:
    “$5000? What sort of chump do you take me for?”
    “First Class”
    —Rocky Rococo

    Had the whole thing memorized once upon a time. I could even do the Rococo voice pretty well. Those were the days.

  105. 105.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 25, 2024 at 3:57 pm

    Curious if there was any mention of this, which occurred Wednesday evening: Trump Posts 37 Attacks On Carroll In 20 Minutes.

  106. 106.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 3:57 pm

    The milk and bread mix for ground meat is a Panade, I learned recently.

    here’s a generic recipe with some explanation. https://www.culinaryhill.com/how-to-make-a-panade/

  107. 107.

    Ksmiami

    January 25, 2024 at 3:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: eggs, panko, milk, seasonings, parm and a combination of 30 percent ground pork, 70percent ground beef. Bake on sheet tray at 375 for 15-17 minutes then add to sauce for final simmering. It’s a fool proof recipe I learned from working with a Hell’s Kitchen celebrity chef.

  108. 108.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 3:57 pm

    @JPL: I partnered into a very Italian-American family (see recent comment above). Three of the family are gluten-intolerant, and while the GF pastas are a bit more demanding of attention in the cooking process (gritty when underdone, then 1 minute window of done, then mushy), with practice one can get good, if not exact replacement, results.

    If you want to try it, be sure to buy a GF pasta made in Italy (our go-to is 365 brand from Whole Foods. It’s not to spendy). Italians would not tolerate a substitute that doesn’t at least come close.

  109. 109.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Ugh. Glad to see some consequences.  When bad things happen to bad people… someone should write a book!  :-)

  110. 110.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @geg6: Agree. The meatball is supposed to be like a sponge for the sauce. Browning it makes it into a hockey puck. Want it to be all simmer-y like a good bolognese.

  111. 111.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: Yes.  Though not front-paged.

  112. 112.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    Libs of TikTok creator accused of inspiring school bomb threats named to Oklahoma library board
    Chaya Raichik, who runs the inflammatory Libs of TikTok social media account, was named an adviser to the state Education Department’s library committee.

    Jan. 23, 2024, 4:57 PM CST / Updated Jan. 23, 2024, 6:37 PM CST
    By Matt Lavietes

    A far-right influencer who was accused of instigating bomb threats against a school library in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last year has been named an adviser to a state library committee, the head of the state Education Department announced Tuesday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/libs-tik-tok-bomb-threats-oklahoma-library-committee-rcna135369

  113. 113.

    Citizen Alan

    January 25, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @WaterGirl: I add the powder to my bechamel sauce along with real cheddar. Waste not, want not.

  114. 114.

    Roberto el oso

    January 25, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    One of the things I adore about BJ is the ‘walk and chew gum’ aspect of the intertwining threads. This one, for example, which is about the Trump’s testimony and the proper way to assemble and cook meatballs. There was another one a few nights ago which one commenter described as “the post for fighting about Texas and talking about the Oscars”.

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    January 25, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    @Dangerman:

    Too bad he can’t actually use those words.

    “SFB, SHUT THE FUCK UP.”

    Sounds like an appropriate court order in this case.

  116. 116.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:00 pm

    @RaflW: I tried gluten-free pasta exactly once.  It even smelled disgusting.

  117. 117.

    bjacques

    January 25, 2024 at 4:00 pm

    This won’t be a serious analysis of Trump’s courtroom appearance until the Balloon Juice crack legal team weighs in on whether to cook the meatballs in the sauce or before.

     

    This is not, America…Nooooo!!

  118. 118.

    Ksmiami

    January 25, 2024 at 4:02 pm

    @WaterGirl: gluten free pasta is a crime against humanity. Prove me wrong.

  119. 119.

    catclub

    January 25, 2024 at 4:02 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: I would say they have earned the right to practice law.

  120. 120.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:02 pm

    @Roberto el oso: I love that, too.  It’s especially good when the two (or more) subjects couldn’t possibly be less compatible if you tried.

  121. 121.

    Another Scott

    January 25, 2024 at 4:03 pm

    Lazyman’s Meatballs and Sauce:

    1) 1 pound bag of Trader Joe’s frozen turkey meatballs.
    Pour contenst of bag in microwave safe pot (I use ~ 3 quart glass sauce pot). Add a few TBSP of water. Cover.
    Cook on “Sensor Reheat” until microwave “dings” (a few minutes).
    Remove from microwave oven, let rest.

    2) Sauce
    1 jar Trader Joe’s Marinara sauce
    1 can tomato paste
    1 can diced tomatoes, drained

    Pour some sauce and paste into ~ 4 quart microwave-safe sauce pot with lid
    Stir paste into sauce until well mixed.
    Add rest of sauce, stir until well mixed.
    Add drained tomatoes, mix well.
    Cover, put in microwave, cook on “Sensor Reheat” until “dings”.

    Add meatballs to sauce. Keep warm (reheating if necessary, but don’t cook too much or meatballs seem to get tougher).

    Cook favorite pasta. Drain, dish up pasta, add sauce.

    Eat.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  122. 122.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:04 pm

    @bjacques:

    This won’t be a serious analysis of Trump’s courtroom appearance until the Balloon Juice crack

    This Is Trump's Idea of Winning 2

    Oh, sorry, I thought you were asking for photo of the bread that looked like crack.

  123. 123.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 25, 2024 at 4:04 pm

    On the trans genocide watch, Florida Advances Bill To “Legally De-Trans” Individuals.

    More from Erin in the Morning:

    [The] bill that would mandate that health insurers cover conversion therapy for transgender people. The bill would also bar transgender people from updating the gender markers on their drivers licenses and make it easier for health insurers to deny healthcare coverage for gender affirming care at any age….

    This means that parents could enroll their children in programs aiming to “treat a person’s perception” of being transgender, with the ultimate goal of “affirming” the birth sex of transgender youth. It is crucial to note that there is no evidence supporting the effectiveness of conversion therapy in altering gender identity or sexuality. More significantly, attempts at such therapy frequently increase suicide rates and detrimentally impact mental health….

    The bill also would have huge impacts on the ability of transgender people in the state to obtain correct identification documents. It would mandate that the state define “sex” as chromosomal, and would then use that definition for drivers licenses n the state. Notably, few people are chromosomally tested when they are born and the bill entirely leaves out intersex people. The bill would make Florida one of the first states that would mandate drivers licenses show someone’s assigned sex at birth, entirely outlawing legal transition when it comes to this crucial identification document.

  124. 124.

    TBone

    January 25, 2024 at 4:05 pm

    @WaterGirl: we DO completely agree I see 😊

  125. 125.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:06 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    You don’t get the mallard reaction

    Are you kidding? Around here, we get wise quacks all the time.

  126. 126.

    scav

    January 25, 2024 at 4:06 pm

    I do so hope there is stiff and widespread coverage of Trumpy’s little White House Medical Unit Candyland

    “We found that the White House Medical Unit provided a wide range of health care and pharmaceutical services to ineligible White House staff in violation of Federal law and regulation and DoD policy,” says a new report from the Defense Department’s inspector general. “Additionally, the White House Medical Unit dispensed prescription medications, including controlled substances, to ineligible White House staff.”

    ….

    For example, controlled medications, including sleeping pill Ambien and stimulant Provigil, were dispensed “without verifying the patient’s identity.” A witness told investigators “Dr. [X] asked if I could hook up this person with some Provigil as a parting gift for leaving the White House … in the unit, it was authorized for us to do that kind of stuff.”

    ….

    Aliases were used “to provide free specialty care and surgery to ineligible White House staff members at military medical treatment facilities,” according to the report. Former staffers told the inspectors that an ineligible White House employee received free elective surgery and that “the unit altered practices to cater to high‑ranking officials.”

  127. 127.

    dm

    January 25, 2024 at 4:06 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Will no one rid us of this creature?

    The Pod Bros have taken to joking about “the hamburger from Heaven”

  128. 128.

    Jay

    January 25, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    U.K. walks away from trade talks with Canada
    Sticking point is how much access U.K. producers should have to the Canadian cheese market

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-uk-trade-cheese-1.7094817

    In the three years since Brexit, the UK has still not been able to negotiate a trade deal with Canada.

    They got a 3 year exemption, for tariff free trade as long as they held to the terms and conditions of the EU agreement, but that expired last fall.

    All they really had to do, was “copy and paste” the Canada/EU Trade deal, and it would have been a “done deal”, 3 years ago, but apparently, (said in a sarcastic Tony Brit falsetto), Control C and Control V isn’t in their skill set.

    Bunch of wankers.

  129. 129.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

     

    I had read about that.

  130. 130.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @Another Scott: Sounds like a lot of work for a lazy man.

  131. 131.

    Ruckus

    January 25, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Will no one rid us of this creature?

    Life will and it appears to be on a fast track.

    He’s eaten so well, has the appearance of someone who takes care of his body, and is 77 yrs old. He’s likely to live at least a few years which he could spend as a pauper. I wonder if he ever paid into SS so he’ll have something left to feed himself on. Wanna bet that every piece of property he’s listed as the owner is in hock up to the limit? I believe and hope that SFB is going down for the final count – and soon. I’d almost (that word is doing a hell of a lot of work) like to watch it in real time, except I don’t have the stomach for it.

  132. 132.

    Baud

    January 25, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @Jay:

    They’re just going to have to return you to colony status.

  133. 133.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @WaterGirl: Real.   Mine sons only had the fake stuff at friends.

  134. 134.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 25, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @WaterGirl: Oops, my mistake. Pinched nerve pain has me living on <4 hours sleep this week, so I’m not fully here.

    @rikyrah: My sincere apology for the mix up.

  135. 135.

    catclub

    January 25, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    Since open thread:  The RNC powers that be are desperate to get Trump out of a two person race.

    They want to declare him the presumptive nominee, provide him with support from their mailing lists etc, and oppose Haley with all their apparatus.

  136. 136.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    January 25, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @Ksmiami: ​

    gluten free pasta is a crime against humanity. Prove me wrong.

    Unpossible…to prove you wrong.
    This Pasta Is So Bad, Even The Mario Bros. Wouldn’t Eat It.

    Google: worst gluten free foods for some excellent Reddit threads on the subject. ;P

  137. 137.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:10 pm

    @JGreen:

    “Why, that tarnished piece of tin is worthless!”
    “Worthless? Hahaaa! It means a lot to Melanie Haber.”
    “Melanie Haber?”
    etc.

  138. 138.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    @catclub: Saw that and then he can access their funds.   assholes

  139. 139.

    raven

    January 25, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    @TBone: Hey, I just saw your post. My former colleague did her dissertation on Whale watching!

  140. 140.

    catclub

    January 25, 2024 at 4:12 pm

    @Ruckus: He’s likely to live at least a few years which he could spend as a pauper.

     

    Even if found gulity and made to pay huge fines, never.

    There are plenty ( or at least enough) of crazy rich people

    (think new Mar a Lago members)  who will keep him in better style than pauper style. Giuliani is broke but somebody is supporting him.

  141. 141.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 4:12 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: We’ve gone from crackers to quackers.

    Duck soup?

  142. 142.

    catclub

    January 25, 2024 at 4:13 pm

    @JPL: They are scared.

  143. 143.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 4:14 pm

    More good news from The Courts vs. Trumplanidia: Peter Navarro sentenced to 4 months for contempt of Congress in Jan. 6 case

    He’s probably out of jail pending appeals, but the trial court record is in.

  144. 144.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    January 25, 2024 at 4:18 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Nancy: It’s an interesting approach but it isn’t us.

    Rococo: [thinks] I must have sent the wrong negative to the police.

  145. 145.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 4:20 pm

    @catclub: If Nikki doesn’t okay this, they will lose.

  146. 146.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    January 25, 2024 at 4:20 pm

    @JaySinWA: “He may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”

  147. 147.

    Jay

    January 25, 2024 at 4:21 pm

    @Baud:

    Never going to happen.

    Most of the expat Brits, (a British pension had significantly more PPP in Canada than in Britain, and it was easy for them to get Residency), went for Canadian Citizenship during Thatcher’s 2nd term.

  148. 148.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:23 pm

    @JaySinWA:

    We’ve gone from crackers to quackers.

    Duck soup?

    “The last man nearly ruined this place,
    he didn’t know what to do with it,
    if you think this country’s bad off now,
    just wait ’til I get through with it.”
    –
    Rufus T. Firefly, President of Freedonia

  149. 149.

    JPL

    January 25, 2024 at 4:25 pm

    trump was to be at an event in Arizona tomorrow but he canceled.  Is he afraid of Kari’s wire, or are the RNC members suggesting that he curtail his events.   Maybe they don’t want any more Nikki-Nancy mixups.

  150. 150.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 4:25 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: This post has tied all the loose ends together.

  151. 151.

    Lyrebird

    January 25, 2024 at 4:25 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: ​
    @Ksmiami: ​
    Y’all must be very young. Or not gluten intolerant… because I gotta tell ya, the Barilla options are aMAZing compared to what was available in the 1980s or 90s. Italians know pasta!
    Tinkyada is not bad, either.
    I will agree with you about chickpea pasta, but I am *amazed* at the GF pasta options these days that other people (eta: who can eat wheat all they want) will willingly eat and even enjoy.​

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:26 pm

    @dm: Funny!  I hadn’t heard them say that.

    Sometimes I can’t listen to them because they can be negative, sometimes.  But the last couple of have been great.

  153. 153.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) posted at 6:52 AM on Thu, Jan 25, 2024:
    This sure looks like Republicans saying “the border is such an urgent crisis that … we are going to ensure nothing is done about it for 12 months, while we campaign on the complaint that nothing is being done”
    (https://x.com/DKThomp/status/1750501855673643444?t=unibh03LPREsar45su6r5A&s=03)

  154. 154.

    TBone

    January 25, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @Ruckus: I, too, have tRump Denouement Syndrome but I will gladly watch his downfall to the last SPLAT.  Stomach and all.

  155. 155.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:

    Nick: “My story had more holes in it than the Albert Hall.”

  156. 156.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @JPL: He may have been exposed to COVID. Oh wait, that was a lie? or maybe not. Only his lawyer knows for sure.

  157. 157.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    @JPL:

     Maybe they don’t want any more Nikki-Nancy mixups.

    How about Betty Jo Bialosky? ;-)

  158. 158.

    RaflW

    January 25, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: Depending on how long ago, or what brand, that’s certainly possible. GF pastas are made with various things, some of which should never go in a noodle.

    But the best ones, which are just basically cornstarch and rice flower (and, again, made in Italy, not in some hippy glop factory with lentils, garbanzos or other atrocities), are really pretty decent. You don’t have to try ’em, but please don’t scare off everyone because you had a bad one-off. TY.

  159. 159.

    Ruckus

    January 25, 2024 at 4:30 pm

    @JPL:

    I believe I read that she’s told judges that she has no control over her client. Which is somewhat large part of the problem – no one has any real control over this SFB. He doesn’t care, he thinks he is the top of the heap of humanity – that everyone else is below him in the pecking order. He is the exact type of person that should never, ever, under any circumstance, be given any power whatsoever.

    And people voted for him to be president. And made a crappy situation – far worse.

  160. 160.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:30 pm

    @JPL: Smart!

    First time I made Kraft mac & cheese for my -ex’s son, I got “it doesn’t taste right”.  I’m thinking: “How can Kraft made by me be any different from Kraft made by his mom????”

    Well, she used the scoop-able margarine and I used butter.  sigh.

    Best food compliment from a kid to me, ever: I made tacos for Cody and his 3 friends, and his best friend said “These are even better than my mom’s!”  (I think they were around 7 or 8 years old at the time.)

    I will cherish that compliment forever.

  161. 161.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 4:31 pm

    @WaterGirl: Is this ever not going to make me laugh? Know where my vote’s going. :-)

  162. 162.

    trollhattan

    January 25, 2024 at 4:32 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: Just try and explain “comedy record” to my kid. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

  163. 163.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:32 pm

    @trollhattan: I giggle every time I see it in the media library, so I pull it out any chance I get.

  164. 164.

    JaySinWA

    January 25, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    @trollhattan: That is not a ballot box

    ETA although it might be convincing to some Trump voters.

  165. 165.

    TBone

    January 25, 2024 at 4:34 pm

    @raven: It was a sore disappointment indeed to have missed that part of our trip.  We did, however, manage to go flying all over in a tiny puddle jumper airplane for a couple hours a few days earlier, so we have that wonderful memory. I wore my Joe Cool red, white & blue T-shirt for luck. Whale watching still on bucket list and I bet your colleague has amazing stories!  I hope you get to have a whole new adventure in place of your cancelled trip.

  166. 166.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 25, 2024 at 4:35 pm

    Since this thread is about as open as can be, I just saw this WaPo headline:

    Photo shows Japan’s spacecraft is lying on its side on the moon

    It’s fallen and can’t get back up again.

  167. 167.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 4:37 pm

    Manu Raju (@mkraju) posted at 10:03 AM on Thu, Jan 25, 2024:
    Romney tells us: “But the reality is that, that we have a crisis at the border, the American people are suffering as a result of what’s happening at the border. And someone running for president not to try and get the problem solved. as opposed to saying, hey, save that problem.…
    (https://x.com/mkraju/status/1750549860904841483?s=03)

  168. 168.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 4:38 pm

    Manu Raju (@mkraju) posted at 10:02 AM on Thu, Jan 25, 2024:
    Mitt Romney: “I think the border is a very important issue for Donald Trump. And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it is is really appalling.” https://t.co/L1LJex10JY
    (https://x.com/mkraju/status/1750549690221752806?t=FIw9X2PwJtTIih5hqGF6Rw&s=03)

  169. 169.

    Ruckus

    January 25, 2024 at 4:39 pm

    @catclub:

    You are harshing my mellow. Give me at least a little hope that he will have to suffer like we all did/do as long as he is still breathing.

  170. 170.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 4:41 pm

    @NotMax: My dad pointed out carrots to me as a potential ingredient recently as well. Baking soda only does so much and sugar is, well, sugar.

    I’ve been playing with wine reductions more lately. In my sauces but also my fried rice (most specifically when I prepare the other vegetables to go in it).

  171. 171.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:44 pm

    @RaflW: Last I saw, the judge was hadn’t ruled yet on whether he could be out pending appeal.  He was going to take it under advisement.

    I hope he heads to jail NOW.

  172. 172.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 25, 2024 at 4:44 pm

    @geg6: Western PA is filled with great Italian places, some high end and some not so much. But lots of good ones. Many Italian immigrants came here to work in the steel mills.

    I could make my way to the North End of Boston, but I hate sitting to eat and, consequently, driving far to get food.  I have friends in Brighton right now and while I’m there I take advantage of myriad options from every corner of Asia.

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: And thanks for all the advice. I’m excited to try again, now.

    @TBone:  I, too, have tRump Denouement Syndrome

    Love this, stealing with only one this one apology.

  173. 173.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:44 pm

    @JPL: What do you mean by that?

  174. 174.

    Old School

    January 25, 2024 at 4:46 pm

    @Ksmiami:

    gluten free pasta is a crime against humanity. Prove me wrong.

    Gluten-free pasta is a godsend.  My daughter, Middle School, would be heartbroken if she was forced to give up pasta.  Since I do not have Celiacs, I do not often eat it, but I have on occasion made macaroni and cheese for the whole family using gluten-free macaroni.  It tastes fine to me.

  175. 175.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2024 at 4:46 pm

    @RaflW: Okay, I’ll be better.  It was probably 5 years or more ago.  Definitely pre-Covid.

  176. 176.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 25, 2024 at 4:48 pm

    @trollhattan: Lawyer lady must be enjoying her billable hours.

    She’s laughably incompetent and apparently knows less than nothing about trial procedures (she had to get a tutorial on how to enter evidence for example). But I’ve been hearing estimates that she’s already been paid about $3 million by Trump MAGA suckers, so I guess she can laugh all the way to the bank.

  177. 177.

    Splitting Image

    January 25, 2024 at 4:52 pm

    @Jay:

    In the three years since Brexit, the UK has still not been able to negotiate a trade deal with Canada.

    They got a 3 year exemption, for tariff free trade as long as they held to the terms and conditions of the EU agreement, but that expired last fall.

    All they really had to do, was “copy and paste” the Canada/EU Trade deal, and it would have been a “done deal”, 3 years ago, but apparently, (said in a sarcastic Tony Brit falsetto), Control C and Control V isn’t in their skill set.

    Bunch of wankers.

    To be fair, Canadians are notoriously difficult to get along with. And it’s not like the UK has any historical or cultural ties with Canada which would help them smooth over the deal.

  178. 178.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2024 at 4:53 pm

    @Old School:

    but I have on occasion made macaroni and cheese for the whole family using gluten-free macaroni.  It tastes fine to me.

     

    Maybe it’s changed since it first came out, but, I, too, have nothing good to say about gluten-free pasta. It was yucky.

  179. 179.

    Old School

    January 25, 2024 at 4:55 pm

    @rikyrah: Not sure when you’ve had it, but we use Barilla (which has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread).  It uses rice rather than wheat.

  180. 180.

    TBone

    January 25, 2024 at 5:01 pm

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: feel free to appropriate anything I post, comrade!  Sharing is caring.

  181. 181.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 5:05 pm

    @geg6:

    but I prefer them to be soft pillows of meaty goodness. 

    Nominated!

  182. 182.

    CarolPW

    January 25, 2024 at 5:14 pm

    @Old School: ​
     I use the Barilla red lentil and chickpea pastas. If I don’t eat a pretty big serving of a legume a day, it is like having colonoscopy prep for dinner. I thought I would never have lasagna again but I can now (one does not eat lasagna along with a large bean side dish, so chickpea noodles it is). I lust after egg noodles, and once a year I’ll cook them in a favored dish, just like I lust after and cook roasted new potatoes and potato salad once a year. I pay for them the next couple of days, but it’s just a few days of the year. Giving up coffee was easier than giving up egg noodles and the availability of lentil and chickpea pastas helps.

  183. 183.

    dm

    January 25, 2024 at 5:15 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: I read somewhere that the landing process was intentionally somewhat uncontrolled (though, apparently an engine failed, too).  The lunar landing probe weighs 700 grams — the entire mission started life as a Cubesat!

    One interesting factor is that it has two assistant drones that it tossed out before landing.  The photo of the lander lying on its side was taken by one of those (which is configured as a sphere, and apparently moves around by flinging out an arm and bouncing from place to place).

  184. 184.

    Sure Lurkalot

    January 25, 2024 at 5:31 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I’m a regular insomniac but not being able to sleep because of pain is infinitely worse. Hope you get relief soon.

  185. 185.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 25, 2024 at 5:39 pm

    @WaterGirl: LOL!

  186. 186.

    Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    January 25, 2024 at 5:52 pm

    @geg6: I grew up in W PA and had a HS friend who made the best meatballs I’ve ever had when I hinted I might like the recipe, she just gave me a Mona Lisa smile!

  187. 187.

    misterpuff

    January 25, 2024 at 5:53 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Those paintings of teh Great and Mighty Ozmandias (Shitbird Division) will come to life through AI.

     

    WWTD?

  188. 188.

    Jeffro

    January 25, 2024 at 6:00 pm

    @Splitting Image:To be fair, Canadians are notoriously difficult to get along with. And it’s not like the UK has any historical or cultural ties with Canada which would help them smooth over the deal.

    LOLOLOL

  189. 189.

    brantl

    January 25, 2024 at 9:22 pm

    @JPL:  Call it “Marred, Old, Lard-Ass”.

  190. 190.

    Tehanu

    January 25, 2024 at 10:01 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: ​
      Maybe yes, maybe no. Hey, put down that pickle!
    @JGreen: ​
      Good for you! We quote it (and all the Firesign stuff) so often that our grandsons have picked up a lot of it.
    On the other topic, I must be the only one here who loathes meatballs. Never liked them even as a kid. There’s something about the texture that just puts me off.

  191. 191.

    NotMax

    January 25, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    @JGreen

    I could even do the Rococo voice pretty well.

    Which is a Peter Lorre voice by way of Morocco Mole.
    ;)

  192. 192.

    Kayla Rudbek

    January 26, 2024 at 9:37 am

    @JPL: Mr. Rudbek uses flax seed and walnut flour in his recipe to accommodate my dairy and egg allergies. They turn out great!

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