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These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.

The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.

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Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

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Open thread!

Tickets split evenly between both quilts

A Aboto (lurker 4)
Avalie
Bonnie
cvannatta
emrys
knittingbull
KRK
lurker 2
lurker 3
Manyakitty
Mercy
Mousebumples
OzarkHillbilly
PatrickG
sfinny
soderbee
Steeplejack
Subaru Dianne
ToesInTheSand57
Wapiti
wataguy

Alley Cat 

Alison Rose
comrade scotts agenda of rage
dkinPa
eclare
Eduardo
karen marie
ljt
nick
Spanish Moss
SteveinPHX
TBone
wjca
zhena gogolia
Rowena D

Star Path

Cliosfanboy
Currants
dc
dr. luba
goldengirl
grandmaBear
Gretchen
JeanneT
Jeffro
Joy in FL
KSinMA
lurker
Maxim
MTCinVA
NotoriousJRT
Penty
Redshift
stinger
toine
Tom Levenson

Uneven Split between the two quilts

caphilldcne
lowtechcyclist

No indication of how to split the tickets

Andrya

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127Comments

  1. 1.

    TBone

    I’m remembering Soprano today and hope they are ok.  I promised to remember the great love it takes to help and hope they know how brave they are.

  2. 2.

    Another Scott

    Best of luck to the rafflers. I recently got a(nother) quilt from QuiltingFool’s Etsy store – she does just astounding work. You’re in for an amazing treat.

    Thanks QuiltingFool, Watergirl, and everyone helping to support Ukraine.

    Slava Ukraini!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    @TBone: I have been so busy this past week, I haven’t read every thread.  Actually, I never read all the threads; only the ones that interest me.  But these past couple of weeks I haven’t even been able to read the ones that interest me.

    Did I miss some particular event related to Soprano2 and her husband’s situation?

  4. 4.

    TBone

    Hope I didn’t stick my foot in my mouth again I have that Sagittarius knack.  Rainbow bridge with dog Nitro.  I’m glad your traumatic experience yesterday ended well, WG!

  9. 9.

    Alison Rose

    So, I get David Corn’s (of Mother Jones) newsletter, and he had a couple of issues in a row where he discussed Biden’s age. He has been pretty even-handed about it, noting the absurd disparity between how the media covers Biden’s age versus Trump’s, and also that Trump’s brain is breaking down like a Yugo and that Biden has gotten a lot of great stuff done. He also noted that Biden’s age is indeed an issue for a lot of voters, and speculated about what people might want to see happen with the ticket, but he never said “Biden should step down” or whatever.

    In some issues, he runs responses from readers, and in today’s there were a number of them related to this topic. One dude, who I would bet all of Elon’s money is white, said:

    Everyone is missing the point. Vice President Kamala Harris is less popular than Biden. She has never had a large following. The fact that she is next in line makes Biden’s age an important issue. He needs a new more likable running mate to allow people to get past the age issue.

    I’m guessing there would be no woman and/or POC this dude would find “likable”. (Corn replied that bouncing Harris would lead to massive conflict among Democratic voters and would sharply alienate Black women who are the strongest part of the coalition.)

    Then another dodo said that Biden should remain the candidate, but he should replace Harris with Gavin Newsom (and make Harris AG and send Garland “to a tortoise farm”). And I laughed so hard at the idea that Newsom would be more liked among swing state voters than Harris. Yes, he’s a white man, but anyone who thinks he isn’t completely (and unfairly) loathed among certain portions of the national electorate must have been living under a rock for the last few years. (Corn again pointed out that this would be a huge diss to Harris and a lot of voters would be rightly pissed about it.)

    Misogynoir is a powerful force among liberals, sadly. I love our Veep. These people can pound sand.

  16. 16.

    3Sice

    Scorsese’s true medium is an endless loop on weekend cable TV. The beats of streaming consumption doesn’t really work for his catalog.

    Also, in hindsight, “No Country for Old Men” serves as a damn fine requiem for cinema.

  17. 17.

    eclare

    @Alison Rose:

    “Sharply alienate Black women,” I guess that’s one way to spell infuriate and piss off.

    Harris was my first choice til she dropped out.  I voted on Super Tuesday for Joe and was thrilled when he chose Harris for VP.

  21. 21.

    TBone

    @WaterGirl: unless I am misremembering, it is Soprano2’s dog.  I might be fuzzy on that detail but I don’t think so.  Someone correct me if I’m wrong, please…

  22. 22.

    Alison Rose

    @eclare: Well, that was my wording. I wouldn’t want to imply that they, as a group, would defect to the GOP or something, just that it would indeed deeply and completely correctly upset them.

  23. 23.

    Scout211

    @Alison Rose: The question, “if not Biden, they who?” is always where these arguments just fall short.  No one does as well against Trump than Biden does.

    A new  Emerson College poll found that

    Biden Performs Strongest Against Trump among Prominent Democrats
    A new Emerson College Polling national survey on the potential 2024 presidential election reveals a tight race between former President Donald Trump and current President Biden, with 45% of voters favoring Trump, 44% supporting Biden, and 11% undecided. Support for both candidates has decreased by one point since the last national poll in January. In other hypothetical matchups, Trump leads with 46% against Vice President Kamala Harris’s 43% and California Governor Gavin Newsom’s 36%. Against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump maintains a lead with 45% compared to Whitmer’s 33%, with 22% undecided.

    So yeah, everybody’s got an opinion on why Biden is not the perfect candidate but no other possible candidates do as well against Trump as President Biden does.

    Bold added.

  24. 24.

    TBone

    @WaterGirl: ❤️😍 it’s inexplicable! 😆 My Achilles heel!  The widow maker that narrowly missed us a few days ago is now on the front lawn awaiting a chainsaw and I’ve got to keep priorities in proper order DANG

  25. 25.

    eclare

    @Alison Rose:

    My bad!  We’re on the same page.  I don’t think they would vote GQP either, but dropping Harris would definitely depress turnout and enthusiasm.

  26. 26.

    3Sice

    @Alison Rose:

    It is the same morons that believe career politicians are bad and a leftist Trump would solve all the intractable issues in their personal sphere.

    They’re marching to a future where they will be a reliable GOP voter, so idk, if you can get a vote out of them for a cycle or two, great, if not -shrug-

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    @zhena gogolia: I thought the same thing, fearing that Soprano2’s husband might have taken a bad turn.

    It may be good that I missed most of the threads yesterday, because I feel really strongly that Fani Willis is being treated in a way that no man in this situation would ever be treated.

    And I’m kind of shocked that McAffee (one or two Fs) would let that witch hunt of a trial go on for two days, with no apparently submission of, you know, EVIDENCE, ahead of time that would have made a trial like that appropriate.

    I try to avoid the kerfuffles, as in I bite my tongue every single fucking time someone brings up the former senator from MN, but it’s really hard because people spout all sorts of untruths when that subject comes up.

    So maybe it’s good that i missed a kerfuffle about Fani Willis yesterday.

    If there’s a good twitter account that covered the trial well, with clips, and someone is inclined to point me toward it, I would be appreciative.

  30. 30.

    ginkgo

    I recently bought two pink cat quilts from QuiltingFool as a Christmas present for my sister who loves both cats and the color pink. The cat blocks are all different, and she is still spotting new details in the quilts. Can’t describe how wonderful they are. Ruth just loves them. One is spread out in her living room and the other on her bed.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    @Alison Rose:

    He would say “I want a woman to be president, just not that woman.” It’s established precedent that that’s a totally acceptable position to have.

  32. 32.

    Soprano2

    @TBone: Thanks for that, I wanted to wait a little until the thread had some comments before posting. The Traveling Vet came to our house last night. I’d never done that before, we always took them to the vet when it was their time. It was as nice as a euthanasia could be. Strangely enough, last night after I came home from Jazzercize Nitro got up and went into the kitchen, I think he was looking for food. I’d had to bring water to him in the living room. Anyway, she helped him over the Rainbow Bridge in the nicest way possible. It was good that our other dog was there, that way he knows what happened rather than just knowing that the other dog went away and didn’t come back. My husband remembered that we did it, although he asked me several times what we did with Nitro (she took his body to be cremated). I called our regular vet’s office this morning to tell them what happened. He had a great 5 years with us, and I kept him healthy as long as I could, but it was his time. The hardest thing about our pets is that we outlive them. I think we’ll wait a little while before we try to get another dog. Sometimes they come to us, that’s what happened with Nitro.

  35. 35.

    TBone

    @WaterGirl: her Dad was amazing.  I can’t stand that people are falling for this obvious ratfucking SANS EVIDENCE!  It’s like that impeachment where all evidence was banned 🤬

  41. 41.

    3Sice

    @WaterGirl:

    The Willis live threads at the GoS are way worse with the bad faith actors. When you can’t tell where the red shit weasels end and the brown ones begin…

  44. 44.

    Soprano2

    @WaterGirl: It was my dog Nitro, I posted about it above. He’s had terrible arthritis in his legs for awhile, plus he has a tumor that the vet said isn’t worth removing since he’s so old (15 or 16) that he might not recover from the surgery. This week he decided he couldn’t stand or walk anymore, so we had to euthanize him. It was hard, but he was suffering and there’s no way he can live any kind of a life if he can’t walk.

  45. 45.

    TBone

    @Soprano2: you are my superhero today.  What you’ve got on your plate I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy except that one we all despise.  Hold on tight to your heart, it is strong and courageous.  We’re here for you.  I know about losing a loved one to dementia.  And helping a beloved friend at the same time (Mom had it, died, and my kitty got Feline Senile Dementia at the same time).  It was one of the most painful times of my entire life BUT as President Biden says, you will one day smile with the memories instead of crying.  My Calico kitty’s name was Einstein, her memory is a blessing.

  48. 48.

    Soprano2

    @WaterGirl: I agree, I’ve tried to understand what this supposed conflict of interest is but I don’t get it at all. If they were on opposite sides of the case then that would make sense, but they’re on the same side! Where’s the conflict? IANAL, but the whole thing should have been thrown out with a paper about how ridiculous it was. I think it was the defendant’s effort to get her whole office disqualified so that the state would have to appoint a special prosecutor, which they would probably never do.

  49. 49.

    Alison Rose

    @Soprano2:

    The hardest thing about our pets is that we outlive them.

    Very true. I’m so sorry for your loss, but you did what was best for your companion, and I hope the memories will bring you comfort 💜

  52. 52.

    Alison Rose

    @Frankensteinbeck: Again, that was me paraphrasing Corn and I’m not sure why people think I would be intentionally downplaying things. I was not diminishing the likely feelings, I was only trying not to paint Black voters as a monolith or as an angry mob, because neither of those are things white folks should do.

  54. 54.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Alison Rose:

    I’m not sure why people think I would be intentionally downplaying things.

    I don’t think that.  I thought it was a good thing to highlight why black women would be upset, and the moral rather than political aspect.  It was a cut neither at you nor eclare, just using the phrasing to viscerally illustrate an important point.

  57. 57.

    Anoniminous

    @WaterGirl:
    If you have the buck-a-roonies you can hire lawyers to file endless frivolous lawsuits against those with less or no money until they have to quit.   A tactic Trump has used his whole life.

    Another reason our legal system is corrupt.​

  60. 60.

    lowtechcyclist

    @eclare: ​
     

    We’re on the same page. I don’t think they would vote GQP either, but dropping Harris would definitely depress turnout and enthusiasm.

    Exactly! The notion that we should pick up a few swing voters by throwing our most reliable demographic under the bus, which is exactly what we’d be doing by replacing MVP on the ticket…excuse me, but that’s f’ing crazy.

    And basically any change to the ticket at this point would be disruptive and signal uncertainty, that we’re too easily swayed by bullshit from the commentariat and don’t have what it takes to stay the course.

    The election is just eight and a half months away. Biden/Harris is our ticket, period, end of story, and anyone supposedly on our side who has a problem with that can just get over it or die mad.

  62. 62.

    japa21

    @Scout211:  Very interesting thing about all those polls.. Trump’s range is basically between 43-45%.  That’s his ceiling.  That 11-22% undecided is highly unlikely to break his way.  All things considered, by the time November rolls around, I doubt if he would get 40%.

    My younger son, the HS history teacher, who is fairly aware, but avoids blogs or cable television, told me the other day that, if Biden doesn’t step down, then he should get rid of Harris and picking her was a mistake.  I informed him that if he hadn’t picked her, he probably would have lost in 2020.  He said that she hasn’t done anything.  I told him that she has done more than any VP in history with the possible exception of Biden himself.  His response was, “How come you never hear of it?”

     

    I just told him to think about it for a moment.  He went “Ahhh, I think I understand.”

  63. 63.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: Yesterday was an interesting day in the hearing.  Bradley, the “star witness” got his star tarnished a bit.

    Link (not a gift link-my one freebie, I guess)

    But Terrence Bradley, a former law partner of special prosecutor Nathan Wade, repeatedly declined to answer questions under oath about what he knew about the romantic relationship between Willis and Wade. Bradley, who previously represented Wade in his ongoing divorce, cited concerns he might violate attorney-client privilege and could be disbarred.

    However, in a dramatic moment, an attorney for Bradley later asked Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee if his client could be released from that privilege after a prosecutor claimed during cross-examination that Bradley and Wade ended their legal partnership after Bradley was accused of sexually assaulting an employee and a client. Prosecutors implied this raised questions about Bradley’s credibility as a witness and whether he had ill will toward Wade.

    Bradley, who emphatically denied he had sexually assaulted anyone, admitted the employee’s claims had led him to sever his partnership with Wade. He testified that he still considered Wade to be “a friend.”

    The revelation, which came near the end of a two-day evidentiary hearing on misconduct claims against Willis, led McAfee to abruptly end Bradley’s testimony. McAfee said he would meet with Bradley and his attorney in a private hearing to consider whether Wade’s attorney-client privilege claim with Bradley had been pierced and whether Bradley could be forced to answer questions about Willis and Wade.

  64. 64.

    Baud

    The point is the discussion isn’t that anyone expects Biden to replace Harris.

    The point is to make a demand that they know Biden will reject so they can point to that as a justification for not supporting Biden.

  65. 65.

    Matt McIrvin

    @lowtechcyclist: The discourse about this always seems to imagine that you could arbitrarily swap one candidate out for another and it would be like jumping to a different timeline with no transaction costs.

  68. 68.

    Geminid

    @WaterGirl: Acyn (@Acyn) tweeted about the Fulton County hearing and included several clips of testimony. Even though this was only yesterday you’ll have to scroll past about 50 tweets to get to them because Acyn tweets incessantly.

  70. 70.

    Matt McIrvin

    @japa21:

    I told him that she has done more than any VP in history with the possible exception of Biden himself.

    I’d probably put Dick Cheney in the #1 spot, but what he did wasn’t good.

  71. 71.

    eclare

    @japa21:

    Good for you for questioning your son!  I hope reality sets in by election day where each voter realizes that it is either TIFG or Joe.  That’s it.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    @Soprano2: I’m sorry.  I did know part of that, and I even wrote to you about Nitro when you said he didn’t want to get up. That was apparently wiped out of my mind once I had the mistaken impression that the issue that was being referred to was related to a rapid downturn in your husband’s condition.

    As I said the other day, this plus the situation with your husband is really a lot to deal with at the same time.  Too much.

  75. 75.

    Scout211

    @Soprano2: My sincerest sympathies.  What a nice option to have a vet come to your home , though.  That had to help everyone through the process.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    @3Sice: Well, now I know which source to avoid in my quest for good info about the Fani “trial”.   I hope that anyone who found a good source might chime in, too.

    I only go to KOS for Ukraine information. Until Ukraine, it had surely been more than a decade that I went there for anything.

  77. 77.

    Soprano2

    @WaterGirl: There’s so much going on it’s easy to forget, happens to me too. Especially the past few days there’s been a lot going on politically. Now I’m off to get hubby up so we can go have breakfast.

  79. 79.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: See my #63. I’ve been reading news reports this morning.  I’m not on social media though so I have no Twitter sites to recommend.

    But there are several news reports about Bradley’s testimony and the fact that it was not the bombshell that everyone (Trump world, the media, etc) had hoped it would be.

  80. 80.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Soprano2: I’m so sorry to hear about Nitro. It’s so hard to let go even when it’s the right time. I hope your fine memories endure and another dog finds you when you’re ready.

  81. 81.

    Matt McIrvin

    @eclare: My impression is that the Vice-President really had very little active role in government until the Clinton-Gore administration. Al Gore was pretty active in shaping policy and that set the stage for Cheney.

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    @Scout211: Wow, I had been impressed with McAfee in his judgement and handling of the Trump GA case, but this sounds bonkers.

    thank you.

    Just because you sever your relationship with your former attorney – that doesn’t mean they don’t have to honor the attorney client relationship.  Unless there were doing something illegal together.

    This witch hunt makes me so angry.

  84. 84.

    Quiltingfool

    @TBone: Ah, yes, I have a store!  Click on my nym to take you there!

    My store is getting a bit depleted, though.  I’ve had several requests for commission quilts and haven’t had time to make quilts for the store.  If you don’t see anything that strikes your fancy, you can look at all the quilts that have been sold.  I have one customer that liked a couple of sold quilts and requested I make that quilt for him.

    Quilts aren’t just for bedding, though.  I can do placemats, table toppers, mug mats, wall hangings…heck, I make quilted zippered purse pouches and am planning to make some cool quilted “organizers” for various crafting endeavors (crochet, embroidery, English paper piecing, etc.).

    My Pinterest page has photos of most all the quilts I’ve made (hmm, probably need to update it).  Here’s the link: https://pin.it/qeYKXsHhM

    I’ve got so many ideas, I’d be about 150 years old before I get them all done!

  87. 87.

    Mike in Pasadena

    Transformation of the Rethuglican party:

    Saint Ron: Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”

    iDJT: “I would encourage them [Russians] to do whatever the hell they want.”

  89. 89.

    japa21

    @eclare: ​
      He’ll vote Biden without hesitation. He likes Biden but is worried that his age might lose the election. Just happy how quickly he gets it.

  90. 90.

    sab

    @Soprano2: I stumbled into watching some of the Willis hearing yesterday. Yikes and wow. So women prosecutors are not allowed to date, especially if they are POC.

    Conflict of interest? On the same side? And the chief witnesses against her are a fired employee and his ex-wife. Amd meanwhile her father and his partner are dragged in to testify.

    Everyone in MSM said McAfee was such a good guy when this started even tho’ he’s Republican, but I have my doubts. I thought one of the main reasons for having judges was to stop clown shows like this from happening.

    This is what Trump has always done: threaten to destroy the reputation of everyone who dares to go after him. And this judge is letting it happen.

  91. 91.

    Quiltingfool

    @ginkgo: I was hoping your sister liked them!  Those were so fun to make!  And so cheerful!  I just love making cat themed quilts…I’m known as the “Cat Quilter” at my guild, I’m proud to say!

  94. 94.

    TBone

    @WaterGirl: I have never tweeted in my life, I despised it from the get go.  140 characters ? GTFOH!  I don’t know where to get good info. on the trial because it pisses me off so much.  I watched as much as I could stand live and had to turn to other topics…

  95. 95.

    Quiltingfool

    @Soprano2: I’m so sorry.  I had to make that decision for Baby, it broke my heart.  I had to give it time before I got another cat.  Sassy is not like Baby, but she has her own quirky personality and she brings me joy.   I hope you will find the same, when you’re ready.

  96. 96.

    TBone

    @Quiltingfool: you shall be receiving request(s) in the future!  Thank you!  I’m a stickler for the perfect color in my bedrooms, I used color as the theme to decorate my minimalist mid-century modern rancher.  You’ll be hearing from me some day!  I wish I could say soon.  We’ll see!

  97. 97.

    Ruckus

    @Alison Rose:

    This is bullshit. Not that you said it, but that you had to, because VP Harris is a woman. She is a US citizen, she is very good at her job. She was very good in her previous position and this pale white dude voter for her in the primary – because she is good. I have zero doubt that she could and would make a great president, better than a number that I’ve lived my many decades under. Why? Because she is smart, she is understanding, she is a good politician, she wants what’s best for the country and humanity. We are a diverse nation, hell many nations are diverse, but I believe that we are one of the most diverse, which is a great and amazing thing. I’m an old and I live in a senior’s appt complex, one must be over 55 to live here. There are 144 units and for many of my neighbors, english is a second language, the skin colors range from just slightly lighter than  the white color of the screen I’m typing on – which is as white as it gets, to as dark as the type on the screen. And everything in between. Along with being from many states and foreign countries. It’s like the united nations of old farts. And it’s far better for it. I’ve traveled from the north of Norway to the southern tip of New Zealand, from Hawaii to Europe, been to Cuba, lived on both coasts of this country and traveled to Mexico and Canada and 46 of the states. I’ve heard so many languages spoken I’ve long ago lost count and the not so funny thing is, we are all human beings. This is a great country and a lot of that is because of its diversity. Hell we type and read this blog, with people from all walks of life, of many, I imagine, differing religions – from none to whatever, of many different shades of skin color and likely differing languages and we are all human beings. And we should never forget that.

  99. 99.

    TBone

    @Quiltingfool: P.S. I really enjoyed our recent conversation about sewing in general and of course I hope to win Alley Cat but at the same time will be happy no matter who wins. I have a long hallway where it would hang in honor.  The winner here is Ukraine that’s the important part is what I’m trying to say.  Expect some color samples from me next time I get the urge to replace my bed’s comforter and I’ll need to replace guest room quilt as well.  I take the edge off minimalism by using items of cozy comfort and lots of textured textiles.  TMI TBone 😆

  100. 100.

    Geminid

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has a good report on yesterday’s hearing in Fulton County, at ajc.com. It sounds like Judge McAfee will hold another hearing on the matter as early as next Friday.

  102. 102.

    Anoniminous

    @TBone:

    “Beggar the Wife” is a well-known common tactic used by men in a divorce to force a beneficial settlement for them from the wife by stringing out the legal proceedings until she has exhausted her financial ability to proceed.

  103. 103.

    Geminid

    @Ruckus: One ironic aspect of this is that we just spent 4 years with Mike Pence as VP, and nobody made issue of it because Pence was so mediocre nobody paid him any attention. There is a very high bar for the Black woman, but it’s like there was no bar at all for the white man.

  104. 104.

    TBone

    @Anoniminous: that’s a term I don’t know because the two fierce family law attorneys I worked for (two jobs, ten years apart) were both female!  And I say to the men who use that term “BUGGER OFF!” 😆 Have you heard the story of the curtain rods?  Lemme see if I can find it, it was given to me by said female attorney when my ex sued me to partition our jointly held real estate (we were not legally married except in the common law sense).

    Here!

    https://www.elitereaders.com/woman-stinkiest-revenge-on-her-ex-husband-and-his-young-girlfriend/

  105. 105.

    Jackie

    @Geminid: Yes he was 😊 I especially enjoyed his reason for declining Fani’s invitation to be a part of the RICO hearings! He looked right at TIFG’s lawyers and said he had no desire to need bodyguards for the rest of his life.

  107. 107.

    Quiltingfool

    @TBone: Photos of colors works so much better than a written description!  Colors can be tricky!

    I have got to tear myself away and get working on my current commission.  I have a color draft of the quilt, but the real thing is much better.  I know I’m on the right track when I put finished sections together and can say, “Oh, pretty, pretty, pretty!”  Heh!

  109. 109.

    Another Scott

    @TBone: :-)

    Snopes.com:

    Mention of a similar stunt is included in John Steinbeck’s 1945 novel Cannery Row: The character Doc advocates getting revenge on a bank by renting a safe deposit box, depositing a salmon in it, then going away for six months.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    Quiltingfool

    This may be a dead thread, but I am thrilled at the amount of money donated by you guys!  We all want to do some good, you know?  When I read depressing things, some of which I cannot fix RIGHT NOW, I do the things I can do, I try to do good.

    We may never know how or who our donations help.  That doesn’t matter, just that we helped do good.

    When I was teaching, I’d get depressed that I wasn’t inspiring all my students, that I wasn’t doing enough.  I told my mother (a teacher, too) about that, and she said that if  what I did helped/inspired just one student, I did something good.   Or, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, I guess!

    Again, thank you so much!

  114. 114.

    TBone

    @sab: I was given many gifts over the years and it’s why I always expect help just when I need it.

    The quality of mercy is not strained;
    It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
    Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest;
    It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
    ‘Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
    The throned monarch better than his crown:
    His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
    The attribute to awe and majesty,
    Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
    But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
    It is enthronèd in the hearts of kings,
    It is an attribute to God himself;
    And earthly power doth then show likest God’s
    When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
    Though justice be thy plea, consider this,
    That, in the course of justice, none of us
    Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;
    And that same prayer doth teach us all to render
    The deeds of mercy. I have spoke thus much
    To mitigate the justice of thy plea;
    Which if thou follow, this strict court of Venice
    Must needs give sentence ‘gainst the merchant there.

  116. 116.

    Another Scott

    @TBone: :-)  Everything old is new again, and new twists on old stories can be great fun.

    I’m glad it inspired you, and I’m sorry you went through that rough time.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  118. 118.

    Ruckus

    @Geminid:

    Bingo!

    I’ve watched this my entire life, I had 2 sisters, both very smart and one a very talented artist. I believe that it is better now than it was decades ago, but more change in how we live is still necessary. This country has been around for a while now and we have our first female VP, who has far more than just the ability to do the job if necessary.

    Mike who? And SFB? What in the ever loving hell were people thinking? Oh that’s right, they WEREN’T!

  119. 119.

    sab

    @TBone: I always thought that was StPaul being uncharacteristicalky kind. Then I Googled it and it’s Shakespeare, of course.

    In my misspent youth I went to law school, passed the bar and briefly practiced. Divorce and bankruptcy. I was bad at it, not mean enough and also in the bottom quartile on emotional intelligence. So I switched to accounting which I love. It makes sense!

    The first real love of my life was my law school boyfriend. He dumped me for his much younger secretary. She dumped him a year later when he wouldn’t marry her. We are turning 70 this year. I am 20+ years into my happy second marriage and he still has never married. Life is strange. But I love that curtain rod story: stinking up a stinker.

  120. 120.

    Ruckus

    @Quiltingfool:

    Or, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, I guess!

    It’s humanity, not one of us is perfect, because perfect is impossible. What’s perfect for you won’t be for others – and vise versa. So many want to have the world, or at least their world, absolutely perfect. But first, that’s impossible. Second, it then wouldn’t be perfect for others. Third there are people like DT and there is nothing, no way, impossible for him to even be in the same room with anything approaching perfect, because he infects everything around him. And he’s not alone in his quest to fuck up everything. (It must be a quest, he’s too good at it…..)

  123. 123.

    TBone

    @Another Scott: ❤️ you’re always a bright spot in my day.  PS my family name, Strange (no shit) goes back to Lord Strange’s Men, a Shakespearean acting troupe.  No wonder I love to tell stories!

  124. 124.

    wjca

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  I can’t understand how their relationship creates a “conflict” that affects the case.

    You can’t understand it because it doesn’t.  The whole thing is a delay tactic, nothing more.

    As others have noted, no man (especially no white man) would be is ever treated this way in similar circumstances.  Which is not to say that she didn’t screw up, because IMHO she did.  Just that it’s totally irrelevant to the case at hand.

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