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Slow Horses Is a Hard Act to Follow!

by WaterGirl|  January 3, 20257:26 pm| 155 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, TV & Movies

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Damn, a few years ago after I finished Longmire a few years ago, I thought it would be hard to find a “treadmill” show as good as that.  But there have been some good ones, for sure.

But damn, I am about to start the last episode of Slow Horses, and I cannot figure out how I got through 23 episodes this quickly.  Cole is right, Slow Horses is a great show.

Any suggestions on a show that won’t feel lame after that?  Has to be gripping enough to keep me on the treadmill, so no comedy, and no subtitles.  But not creepy, no serial killers, no blood and guts at every turn.

Help Wanted. :-)

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  1. 1.

    Yutsano

    January 3, 2025 at 7:33 pm

    They made a series based off the movie The Man from Snowy River in Australia a while back. It might take some researching to find it, but it might be something you’d be interested in

    EDIT: ZUERST!

  2. 2.

    MazeDancer

    January 3, 2025 at 7:34 pm

    Apple TV is free this weekend.Here is a thread from Twitter where someone outlined their choicess.

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:34 pm

    @Yutsano: A cowboy film with Kirk Douglas from the 1980s?

  4. 4.

    TheOtherHank

    January 3, 2025 at 7:35 pm

    The Expanse? It’s SiFi, with some blood and guts, but good characters and an interesting story

    ETA: Severence. Season 2 comes out in a couple weeks.

  5. 5.

    trollhattan

    January 3, 2025 at 7:37 pm

    Bad Sisters. Deadloch. No Good Dead.

  6. 6.

    Big R

    January 3, 2025 at 7:38 pm

    A few things we’ve been working through that might qualify:

    Foundation

    The Serpent Queen

    Big Mood

    His Dark Materials

  7. 7.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:40 pm

    @trollhattan: I really liked Season 1 of Bad Sisters.

  8. 8.

    ryk

    January 3, 2025 at 7:41 pm

    The wife and I enjoyed Goliath

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:41 pm

    Has anyone see Echoes?  With Matt Bomer from White Collar?

  10. 10.

    trollhattan

    January 3, 2025 at 7:42 pm

    @WaterGirl: ​
    There’s a new one, and they’re still pretty bad. :-)

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:45 pm

    @ryk: When I googled Goliath, this came up as recommended.

    I’ve never heard of Sneaky Pete, but i loved the other three, so that bodes well.

    Slow Horses Is a Hard Act to Follow!

  12. 12.

    twbrandt

    January 3, 2025 at 7:46 pm

    No suggestions, but want to second your enthusiasm for Slow Horses. The cast, especially Gary Oldman and Kristin Scott Thomas, are so good.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:46 pm

    @trollhattan: Not sure how you could top the premise of the first one.  I know Betty was going to watch Season 2.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:49 pm

    @twbrandt:

    Kristin Scott Thomas pissed me off too much at first to like her, but at some point in Season 2 I found that I was totally able to appreciate her.

    She looks so much older in Season 4 with her shorter hair.  I find myself wondering whether that was a deliberate choice for the show or if she aged that much in just tone year.

  15. 15.

    twbrandt

    January 3, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    @WaterGirl: her portrayal of an ambitious,  treacherous bureaucrat who would betray her own grandmother to advance her career is spot on.

  16. 16.

    dnfree

    January 3, 2025 at 7:52 pm

    @Big R: I second “His Dark Materials”.  Loved the books and the serialization did a good job of casting and conveying the concepts.

  17. 17.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 7:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: We enjoyed Dalgliesh. It has some bloody scenes, but always after death. And everyone has British accents. Bertie Carvel is great.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:54 pm

    @Big R: @dnfree:  I read comment #5 and #8, but somehow I missed #6 until you replied to it.  Off to google

    edit: That’s listed as Drama, but it sounds like it’s SciFi?

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 7:55 pm

    Enjoying revisiting The Alfred Hitchcock Hour on Prime.

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:55 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Is that on Netflix, Prime, or Apple TV?  I know I had seen the title on one of those sites and wondered if it would be good.

    You and I have similar “not creep or scary” tastes, so I should look at that.

  21. 21.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 7:56 pm

    RIP David Lodge.

  22. 22.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 7:56 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s on Amazon, but I think it’s through our Acorn subscription.

  23. 23.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 7:57 pm

    @NotMax: Oh, I didn’t know that was available.

    I was intrigued by a TCM movie this morning — The Bachelor Father with C. Aubrey Smith, Marion Davies, and an impossibly young Ray Milland.

  24. 24.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:58 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I have Acorn and Britbox through Amazon.  Thanks!

  25. 25.

    Urza

    January 3, 2025 at 7:58 pm

    @MazeDancer: It is free.  I can’t get it to send me the code to login to my phone.  Haven’t used my Apple account in years.

  26. 26.

    Kristine

    January 3, 2025 at 7:59 pm

    @Big R: is His Dark Materials on streaming?

    I’ve been stuck between S2 and S3 for a few years.

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 7:59 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I would watch Father Goose in a heartbeat if it were streaming somewhere!

  28. 28.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 7:59 pm

    @trollhattan: don’t pay any attention, it’s hilarious

  29. 29.

    Teoconut

    January 3, 2025 at 8:00 pm

    Silo on AppleTV, Dystopian Scifi, great actors (e.g. Rebecca Ferguson – from Dune)

  30. 30.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 8:00 pm

     

    @NotMax: Looking forward to Alfred Hitchcock! The nurse episode with Dana Wynter scared the s–t out of me when it first appeared. (I’ve seen it on YouTube since then, and it’s not quite as scary as it originally felt, but still pretty damn good.)

  31. 31.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:01 pm

    The Day of the Jackal on Peacock is good except for the ads.

  32. 32.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 8:01 pm

    @WaterGirl: Looks as if you can rent it on Prime.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:01 pm

    @TheOtherHank: I tried to watch the Expanse when it was on network TV a few years ago.  They went so long between seasons it took awhile to remember who was who and which planet was which.  I gave up after a few seasons.

    That’s probably a show that would really lend itself to streaming.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:01 pm

    @zhena gogolia:   Thanks, I never dreamed that it would be streaming anywhere!

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:02 pm

    I watched Season 2 of Annika, and now I really want to watch Season 1 but I just can’t do another streaming service. :-(

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:03 pm

    @raven:   Thanks for the ad warning.  I refuse to watch anything with ads on a service i am already paying money for.  Ridiculous.  Greedy fuckers.

  37. 37.

    cain

    January 3, 2025 at 8:04 pm

    You could do some long running ones like “Monk” or “Seinfeld”

    I hear Gunsmoke is making a come back!

    There is also “Wheel of Time” on Prime. I liked that one.

  38. 38.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 8:04 pm

    @WaterGirl

    You already have Britbox?

    A Touch of Frost. You will not be disappointed.

  39. 39.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:05 pm

    @raven: I think trollhattan meant that as a way of saying season 2 was good, because the sisters are still bad. :-)

  40. 40.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: It was super cheap for 6 months so I bought it because they have Illini basketball.

  41. 41.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: There it is

  42. 42.

    oldgold

    January 3, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    Mare of Easttown.

    i avoided it for years thinking it was about a horse.

  43. 43.

    FelonyGovt

    January 3, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    The Diplomat, if you haven’t seen it yet. On Netflix, I think. Season 2 came out a little while ago.

    And if you do have BritBox- Death in Paradise and Beyond Paradise. Kind of “cozy” mysteries.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    I tried to watch Brooklyn 99 as a show to fall asleep to – very different requirements than a show to watch on the treadmill!!!! – and I find it hard to understand why so many people here loved that show.  So over the top!  Or maybe that was the appeal?

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:08 pm

    @FelonyGovt: I gobbled up season 2 of The Diplomat and The Lincoln Lawyer the first week they were released. :-)

  46. 46.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:09 pm

    @oldgold:

    Mare of Easttown as a horse.  LOL.

    I watched that on network TV when it came out.  Most excellent!

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:10 pm

    @raven:

    so I bought it because they have Illini basketball.

    I totally get that!

  48. 48.

    trollhattan

    January 3, 2025 at 8:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: @raven:

    Yeppers, good bad. They scare me and I want to be their friend.

    They also make it seem common to have your front porch face the ocean. Want that, too.

  49. 49.

    RileysEnabler

    January 3, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    Black Doves. Similar in many ways to Slow Horses- little bit of blood/violence, a few spicy scenes but nothing over the top. Highly recommend!!

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    @WaterGirl: I didn’t go for it either. Did you try The Diplomat? The second season was even better than the first.

    ETA: I see you already answered that.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    @trollhattan: I think I would give up movies if I could have a front porch that faced the ocean.

  52. 52.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 8:13 pm

    My latest obsession is different versions of Uncle Vanya. It’s amazing how basically the same text can be played in so many different ways.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:13 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I didn’t see how they could top the ending of the first season of The Diplomat, but they shocked me again!

    HOLY FUCK.

  54. 54.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:14 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    I didn’t go for it either.

    I love Andre Braugher so I really wanted to like it.  I just couldn’t.  So juvenile.

  55. 55.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:15 pm

    @RileysEnabler: It’s weird watching it along with the Day of the Jackal, lot’s of similarities DOJ is so much better.

  56. 56.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 8:19 pm

    You could try No Offence. Black comedy British police show set in Manchester.

    On Britbox

    Currently 2 episodes in to The Sticky. Crime comedy based on the true story of the theft of millions of $ worth of Maple Syrup from the Quebec Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve. Recommended by a fellow Jackal a few days ago, I’m enjoying it

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 8:19 pm

    @NotMax

    And since you say above you already have Acorn, Murdoch Mysteries. Starts out a bit shaky but once it finds its footing well worth the time. IIRC 17 seasons are available on Acorn at present.

    (Note for any who don’t have Acorn and may be currently watching it with ads on Freevee via Prime, series will be leaving in 16 days. AFAIK will still be available (also with ads) on The Roku Channel.)

  58. 58.

    hitchhiker

    January 3, 2025 at 8:19 pm

    I liked 1883, and (can’t believe I’m going to say this) but Landman has sucked me in. It has many issues (insanely dumb women characters, e.g.) but Billy Bob Thornton is such a talent. Sometimes I don’t need more than a good actor with a chewy role to play.

    Agree with the recommend for Bosch; that’s worth your time. I assume you’ve seen The Diplomat? I thought it was excellent. Also watching The Agency right now — a spy show that IMO works better for watching at your own pace than waiting week to week. It felt slow to me at first, but now on episode 9 (I think) it’s got me.

  59. 59.

    Celiadexter

    January 3, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    If you have Peacock, Homicide:Life on the Street. For Netflix, my best exercise viewing has been The Diplomat, Beauty Queen of Jerusalem, Cable Girls, Bridgerton, Grey’s Anatomy, Sex and the City, Lidia Poet, Borgen, Anatomy of a Scandal, etc. Some of these shouldn’t be watched with a male in the room.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    @NotMax: I have Murdoch Mysteries on Tivo, which I can’t watch on the treadmill.

    Fun little show that grows on you. Sorry to hear it’s leaving Acorn.

  61. 61.

    UncleEbeneezer

    January 3, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    Beef- Incredible, touching comedy starring Ali Wong (Netflix)

    Fosse/Verdon

    Feud: Betty Vs. Joan

    Feud: Capote Vs. The Swans

    Becoming Karl Lagerfeld

  62. 62.

    trollhattan

    January 3, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    @zhena gogolia:
    +1 The Diplomat is excellent.
    Lucky us, Netflix has committed to an 8-episode Season 3.
    Just to confuse things, there is a Brit The Diplomat.
    imdb.com/title/tt17001504/
    It’s not of the same caliber but still a fun watch. Plus Spain.​

  63. 63.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 8:25 pm

    @WaterGirl

    It’s not leaving Acorn, it’s leaving Freevee.

  64. 64.

    trollhattan

    January 3, 2025 at 8:25 pm

    @Celiadexter:

    Lidia Poet (caution: subtitles) is terrific. So is My Brilliant Friend.

  65. 65.

    MazeDancer

    January 3, 2025 at 8:26 pm

    On pictures that do not move but are moving, Ann Telnaes, the cartoonist at WaPo just quit.

    Her editors wouldn’t run a cartoon she drew of techbro biggies bowing down to Trump.

    Here is the cartoon.

  66. 66.

    Old Man Shadow

    January 3, 2025 at 8:26 pm

    Severance, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Joe Pickett, The English, Obituary (has a serial killer as the main character, but it’s not gruesome as I recall.)

  67. 67.

    dmsilev

    January 3, 2025 at 8:26 pm

    Good news, Slow Horses is already confirmed for seasons five and six.

    Also on AppleTV, you might give Severance a try. It’s …weird, but incredibly well written and performed. Season two premiers in a couple of weeks, so watching S1 now would be a decent option.

  68. 68.

    NeenerNeener

    January 3, 2025 at 8:26 pm

    I went through a bunch of cop shows on Britbox over the last year. Line of Duty is pretty intense and gripping, and the actors turn up in other British cop shows so I had a lot of “Hey, it’s that guy” moments watching other Britbox shows.  You might like New Tricks. A lady police chief hires a bunch of retired misfit cops to solve old cold cases. Again, the actors pop up in other shows, including the Frasier reboot on Paramount+. Shetland is pretty good too. There are a lot of episodes of Silent Witness, about coroners.

  69. 69.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    @MazeDancer: That is disturbing, to say the least.

  70. 70.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    Shetland is really good. Crime series set in the eponymous Islands. Great acting. gob smacking scenery, based on the books by Anne Cleves, the author of Vera ( also highly recommended). Both are on Britbox

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 8:30 pm

    Short-run series The Last days of Ptolemy Gray on Apple TV+ worth checking out, also too.

    Samuel L. Jackson. ’nuff said.

  72. 72.

    jowriter

    January 3, 2025 at 8:30 pm

    @MazeDancer: That is a great cartoon.  Bless this woman.  Really must be depressing to work at WaPo these days.

  73. 73.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:32 pm

    Catastrophe with Sharon Horgan from Bad Sisters on Prime is quite good.

  74. 74.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:33 pm

    Also, “Trying” on Apple TV and Prime is sweet.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 8:34 pm

    On the gentler side?

    Hamish Macbeth and also Tales of Para Handy are both on Prime.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:37 pm

    @NotMax: Oh, good, glad I misunderstood, thanks.

  77. 77.

    narya

    January 3, 2025 at 8:39 pm

    Reservation Dogs is awesome.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:40 pm

    @MazeDancer: Good for her.  I hope she lands somewhere much better, where journalism is still the goal.

  79. 79.

    p.a.

    January 3, 2025 at 8:40 pm

    The Americans  shootings, murders, but not splatter-y

    Evil (oops… creepy)

  80. 80.

    frosty

    January 3, 2025 at 8:42 pm

    We’re watching Professor T on PBS. Not as gripping as Slow Horses but your favorite characters don’t die either. I’m not a fan of British murder mysteries but this one is good. The Professor has some the same characteristics of Monk. .. which is one you should watch if you didn’t see it when it first came out.

    ETA the first season of Death in Paradise was good. The same actor plays Professor T. Subsequent seasons had different lead actors because the six month commitment to live in Jamaica was too much for them.

    ETA2 Wednesday. A spinoff of The Addams Family. Good setting, good actors. Only one season so far though.​

    ETA3: I really liked New Tricks.

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    @NeenerNeener: Loved Line of Duty.  Will have to try New Tricks.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:44 pm

    @kalakal: I haven’t seen either of those.  Can you say more?

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:48 pm

    @p.a.: I watched The Americans on network TV.  suspenseful, for sure, but not creepy in my opinion.

  84. 84.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:50 pm

    @WaterGirl: Get ready for closed captions for Shetland unless you are Scottish. (we watched them all and it was no problem)

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:50 pm

    @frosty: Steeplejack tried to get me to watch Professor T.  I watched part of an episode but it kind of creeped me out for some reason.

    Loved Monk.  But definitely not gripping enough for the treadmill.

    I always wondered why they changed leads so often on Death in Paradise!  My favorite was season 5 or 6 when it was the young guy whose wife didn’t join him after all.

  86. 86.

    Elizabelle

    January 3, 2025 at 8:51 pm

    @MazeDancer:  Oh no.  I love Ann Telnaes.  That is a big loss.

  87. 87.

    thruppence

    January 3, 2025 at 8:51 pm

    Second Black Doves and Reservation Dogs. I just started watching Cross on Prime, first episode was really good,  but I haven’t watched enough of it yet to know if it will be to your taste.

  88. 88.

    sixthdoctor

    January 3, 2025 at 8:51 pm

    On Acorn there’s 19-2, a Canadian police series starring Jared Keeso of Letterkenny in a dramatic role. It’s very good and steers into occasional surreality like the Denis Leary firefighter series Rescue Me. Might be a little too violent and bloody, though.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:51 pm

    @raven: Bummer, captions don’t work for me when I’m on the treadmill.

  90. 90.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:52 pm

    @sixthdoctor: I liked Rescue Me!

  91. 91.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 8:55 pm

    @sixthdoctor:  19-2 has a lot of good reviews.

  92. 92.

    patrick II

    January 3, 2025 at 8:56 pm

    My vote is for Andor, a Star Wars series for adults.  It is a prequel to my second favorite Star Wars movie — Rogue One.  It is not so much a science fiction story but a story of rebellion and the causes and psychology of the movement. It stars Diego Luna and Stellan Skarsgard in a brilliant turn as the rebel leader.  It is in its second year on the Disney channel.

  93. 93.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 8:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: You can try and see if you can follow the dialogue, we can’t.

  94. 94.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 8:57 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    They’re British cop shows. Vera is set in Newcastle ( NE Britain ) Great acting, fantastic performance by Brenda Blethyn as the main character. A Detective Chief Inspector coming up for retirement, somewhat dishevilled and cranky but very sharp.

    Shetland is different in that the total population of the islands is only about 20,000 people. How do you solve crimes when everybody knows everybody? Different from Vera in that each season is one main story and the plots can get very tangled.

    Both have fantastic cinematography and beautiful landscapes, particularly Shetland which is hauntingly beautiful

  95. 95.

    RevRick

    January 3, 2025 at 8:58 pm

    Suits?
    You’ll love Donna.

  96. 96.

    Miss Bianca

    January 3, 2025 at 9:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: I loved it! The OTT quality, that is

    ETA: I don’t stream so I don’t know what’s out there, but I just saw Season 1 of Poker Face and it was really fun. But since you *do* stream, you’ve probably already seen it.

  97. 97.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 9:03 pm

    @raven

    Yup. The accents are thick as day-old porridge. Subtitles a must for us across the ponders.

  98. 98.

    Gretchen

    January 3, 2025 at 9:04 pm

    @WaterGirl: Amazon Prime gives you Britbox, or do you have to pay extra for it? I’ve seen some interesting things on it but not enough to pay extra for.

    How long does it take to get into Slow Horses? I’ve tried a couple of times since so many people love it, but I couldn’t get into it.

    I’m loving Bad Sisters, halfway through Season 2. Kind of impatient with how some of them could use more good sense, though.

  99. 99.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 9:05 pm

    @Gretchen: You have to pay for it and, as far as getting into Slow Horses, I’d say if you’ve tried a few and can’t, give it up. There is nothing subtle about Gary Oldham

     

    eta

     

    you know Eve Hewson is Bono’s daughter?

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 9:07 pm

    One more on Britbox, Hetty Wainthropp Investigates with Patricia Routledge.

  101. 101.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 9:11 pm

    The Last Detective on Britbox is rather fun and if you’ve never seen Inspector Morse you are in for the treat of a lifetime

  102. 102.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 9:14 pm

    @kalakal

    The Last Detective also currently available on Prime.

  103. 103.

    p.a.

    January 3, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    @WaterGirl: Evil (the show) is creepy

  104. 104.

    Poe Larity.

    January 3, 2025 at 9:17 pm

    Well, presuming you weren’t hip before, I’d say Foyle’s War and George Gently.

    Second for Shetland, but I haven’t the latter seasons.

    Also, too, Bron. The original Bridge. Second only to The Wire.

  105. 105.

    jackmac

    January 3, 2025 at 9:17 pm

    I rather liked Monsieur Spade (which debuted earlier this year on AMC and is now on Netflix). It picks up Dashiell Hammett’s Sam Spade character some 20 years after The Maltese Falcon. Spade is now a widower living in a small town in France. The six-episode series opens with the murders of six nuns and Spade gets involved in increasingly complicated story that includes a child prodigy that every intelligence agency is after, France’s war in Algeria and Spade learning he’s a father. Plus there are callbacks to Spade’s days as a San Francisco PI (as portrayed by Humphrey Bogart).  Beautifully shot with a plot that sometimes bogs down a bit and an ending that felt rushed but did tie up loose ends.

    Clive Owen was great as a world-weary Spade. The series was co-produced with France’s Canal+ and there’s a lot of French spoken (with subtitles).  No word if a second season is planned.

    Dean Winters (Mayhem in Allstate commercials and Liz Lemon’s sleazy ex-boyfriend in 30 Rock) has a small role as an American Catholic priest.

  106. 106.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 3, 2025 at 9:17 pm

    OT but a nice review of Dragoncraft just showed up on Windy City Reviews.

    “This is a fast-paced young adult fantasy novel full of action and imagination. Winsor has a gift for foreshadowing just enough to keep you hooked.”

  107. 107.

    Gretchen

    January 3, 2025 at 9:18 pm

    Hacks with Jean Smart as an older comedian who hires a young writer to freshen up her act is good

    I loved Lincoln Lawyer. I assume Bosch is an adaptation of books by the same author? I didn’t know that they had been made into a series. The books were good, so I’ll have to check it out.

  108. 108.

    tobie

    January 3, 2025 at 9:19 pm

    Severance may feel too dark right now but it’s a great show.

    If you want a wistful but also touching show with beautiful acting, I highly recommend the Korean series “My Mister.” I lost myself in it after the election and have now become somewhat addicted to Korean TV.

  109. 109.

    Gretchen

    January 3, 2025 at 9:20 pm

    @raven: Yes, I just found that out when watching an interview about Season 2. She said her dad didn’t want her to go into acting but she’s really good.

  110. 110.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 9:22 pm

    @Gretchen: The young  writer is Laraine Newman’s daughter, Hannah Einbinder. She’s good in the show but her comedy special sucks.

  111. 111.

    raven

    January 3, 2025 at 9:23 pm

    @Gretchen: She’s also in The Perfect Couple which is awful.

  112. 112.

    Poe Larity.

    January 3, 2025 at 9:23 pm

    Oh, Bron has serial killers. And subs.

  113. 113.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:28 pm

    @thruppence: Parts of Cross were definitely too creepy for me.  I watched it through to the end, though in the creepy parts i sometimes had to press the jump ahead 10 seconds but 10x in a row.

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:30 pm

    @RevRick: I love everyone on Suits!

    That’s one of my watch  it on my iPad as I am falling asleep, which is more like listening.  But when you’ve seen it before and you know the stories and the characters, listening can be just as good. :-)

  115. 115.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:30 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Never seen poker face.  What’s it about?

  116. 116.

    Colette South

    January 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    @zhena goolia: We might be separated at birth!   Uncle Vanya remixes and Cherry Orchard remixes are my thing!  What’s your favorite Vanya?  I love Vanya on 42nd Street

  117. 117.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:33 pm

    @Gretchen:

    How long does it take to get into Slow Horses? I’ve tried a couple of times since so many people love it, but I couldn’t get into it.

    YES!  I watched it because Cole kept telling me it was the best show on TV.  I think I called him when I was slogging through Season 1, episode 2, and asked him if it’s a really slow start because it was sooooo boring.  He promised it would get better and then I would be hooked, which I was.

    So try again and give it a good 3 episodes.

    edit: And yes, you have to pay extra for Acorn and Britbox on Amazon, but they are maybe $5 apiece, and it’s worth it.  (to me)

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:36 pm

    @kalakal:

    The Last Detective on Britbox

    Ha!  I put that on last night as i was trying to fall asleep.  I mostly listened but followed enough that I knew he had solved it and for sure saw the ending.  Then I fell asleep and a few episodes must have continued while I was sleeping.

    His boss is an ass! :-)

  119. 119.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:36 pm

    @p.a.: Oh, I see.  Evil was another show, not a description of The Americans!

  120. 120.

    Scott S.

    January 3, 2025 at 9:38 pm

    @trollhattan: I second these suggestions

  121. 121.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:38 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    “This is a fast-paced young adult fantasy novel full of action and imagination. Winsor has a gift for foreshadowing just enough to keep you hooked.”

    Wow, that’s high praise, indeed!

    But not surprising because when you do an author’s post, you make intriguing comments as you’re describing the story, and they pull us in.

  122. 122.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 3, 2025 at 9:39 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, WG.

  123. 123.

    piratedan

    January 3, 2025 at 9:41 pm

    Brokenwood Mysteries (10 seasons of New Zealand settings)

     

    Sex Education, seriously underrated stories and topics

  124. 124.

    Gretchen

    January 3, 2025 at 9:41 pm

    @raven: Yes, I thought Perfect Couple was not so great.

  125. 125.

    Miss Bianca

    January 3, 2025 at 9:42 pm

    @WaterGirl: A young woman who can tell when you’re lying – built-in BS detector. This makes her valuable to her employers at a casino, who want her to help them fleece a customer at a high-stakes poker game, until they thoughtlessly murder her best friend. She figures out whodunnit, and ends up hitting the road with the casino owners’ muscle after her.

    Along the way as she’s on the lam, she ends up figuring out whodunnit in a whole lot of places. It’s Rian Johnson-produced (Knives Out). Think “Columbo” with a young, hipster, female lead, and you’ve got the vibe. Great guest stars.

  126. 126.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:42 pm

    @trollhattan:    @Scott S.:

    Okay, Scott’s affirmation was enough to get me to Google.

    No Good Deed comes off very differently from No Good Dead. :-)

  127. 127.

    Timill

    January 3, 2025 at 9:44 pm

    As a total change of pace, I see that Kenneth Clark’s Civilisation is on Britbox. No Ascent of Man, though…

  128. 128.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:45 pm

    @Miss Bianca:  So your description is about Poker Face, not Knives Out?  You referenced Knives out because it has the same producer?

    I thought one was kind of a sequel to the other?  And I had the impression that both were kind of creepy.  Did I have that totally wrong?

  129. 129.

    WaterGirl

    January 3, 2025 at 9:47 pm

    Okay, turning off the laptop now with only 11% battery left. It’s a sign!

    Thanks for all the suggestions so far!

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 9:47 pm

    OT.

    Wild weather a-coming.

  131. 131.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 9:48 pm

    @WaterGirl: As are his colleagues!

    It’s not a detective show but Friday Night Dinner is hilarious, it just ocurred to me because it starred the wonderful Paul Ritter who was in No Offence and Vera

  132. 132.

    Miss Bianca

    January 3, 2025 at 9:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: same producer, nothing to do with Knives Out except the snarky vibe. Like I said (or didn’t say), it’s structured like Columbo, in that you meet the murderer and the murderee and you see it all go down and then see how Charlie (the “Poker Face” girl) figures it all out with her magical BS detection. Only one episode was really creepy, and it was more suspenseful than bloody.

    tl/dr: If you liked Knives Out, same dude who directed it directed this. If you like Columbo too, you’ll really like this.

  133. 133.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 3, 2025 at 9:56 pm

    What about medium-speed horses?

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 10:07 pm

    @tobie

    Taiwanese, not Korean, but found Marry My Dead Body on Netflix thoroughly enjoyable.

    Another interesting find on Netflix is the Japanese series He’s Expecting.

  135. 135.

    zhena gogolia

    January 3, 2025 at 10:12 pm

    @Colette South: My favorite one is one I can never see, the Moscow Art Theater production with Andrei Myagkov as Vanya and Oleg Borisov as Astrov (there’s one fragment on YouTube). But of the ones I’ve seen as a whole, I’d like to take pieces out of each one and splice them together. Wallace Shawn’s angry speech in Act 3, Richard Armitage’s scenes with Marina and Sonya in the Ian Rickson version, and Smoktunovsky’s first scene with Elena in Konchalovsky’s very pretentious film. I haven’t seen a perfect one yet! Open to suggestions. (Going to bed now, though!)

  136. 136.

    dlwchico

    January 3, 2025 at 10:13 pm

    Blue Lights – British cop show. I enjoyed it a lot.  A critic quoted on it’s wikipedia entry “We could be watching The Wire; Blue Lights is that gritty and aspires to be that great”.

    Bad Monkey – on Apple TV.  Odd little crime drama (with humor but not exactly a comedy) set down in Florida and that area.  Based on a book by Carl Hiaasen.

  137. 137.

    eclare

    January 3, 2025 at 10:23 pm

    For a completely different recommendation, Queer Eye, on Netflix.  Five guys, each specializing in a different area such as fashion or interior design, transform a struggling individual and their world.  True, heartwarming.

  138. 138.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 10:24 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Unrelated to Uncle Vanya, recently watched something British in which one Russian character’s name is Nikersoff.

    (To get the joke, pretend it starts with “Kn.”)
    ;)

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    January 3, 2025 at 10:49 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Would you believe it?
    ;)

  140. 140.

    Craig

    January 3, 2025 at 10:51 pm

    Just rewatched season 1 of The Wire with my 85 year old mum while home for the holidays. I’d recommend that. All the cussing was a little off for her, but she’s used to it at this point, and she really dug the characters and the way they build the story. Super trippy, cause the whole premise of the show could never work now. Pagers? Pay Phones?

  141. 141.

    Kayla Rudbek

    January 3, 2025 at 10:55 pm

    @kalakal: now I need to go check Ravelry and see how many other knitters are trying to figure out the sweater patterns from that show.  I didn’t even have to see a single scene, I know how they’re all going to think.

  142. 142.

    Laura

    January 3, 2025 at 11:17 pm

    On acorn – The Brokenwood Mysteries set in New Zealand. My Life is Murder and Darby and Joan. Darby and Joan is set in Australia. My Life is Murder is set in Australia for season one then moves to New Zealand. Signora Volpe is set in Italy. The Madam Blanc Mysteries is set in the south of France.

  143. 143.

    kalakal

    January 3, 2025 at 11:28 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek: Oh yes, a knitters paradise. Maybe it should have been called Fairisle

    Fun background to the show is Anne Cleves’ books all have a great deal of local knowledge but the locales are scattered all over the British Isles. Turns out her husband was an ornithologist and while he was doing his field research she’d be wandering around absorbing the atmosphere, the landscape, and plotting murders.

  144. 144.

    Melancholy Jaques

    January 3, 2025 at 11:54 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    If you’ve got Britbox, I recommend. Shetland.

  145. 145.

    Liminal Owl

    January 4, 2025 at 12:03 am

    The Green Glove Gang, on Netflix.  Not for the treadmill, because unless you understand Polish, you’ll need the captions (well, there is a dubbed option, but the dubbing is awful).  We have enjoyed Season 1 with great enthusiasm and are looking forward to 2 and 3.  Three older women pull off a heist and hide out in a retirement home.

    Also chiming in on Severance: yes, weird and excellent.

    From a couple of years ago, but I don’t remember if it was discussed here:  The Queen’s Gambit.

  146. 146.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 4, 2025 at 12:14 am

    But not creepy, no serial killers, no blood and guts at every turn.

    Well, there goes my recommendation of Bones!  LOL!

  147. 147.

    Liminal Owl

    January 4, 2025 at 12:26 am

    Ann Telnaes has a Substack

  148. 148.

    joel hanes

    January 4, 2025 at 2:01 am

    Endeavour, a PBS Masterpiece  Brit detective series, is superb.

  149. 149.

    TiredOfItAll

    January 4, 2025 at 2:09 am

    WG, have you watched Dark Winds? Two seasons are out and Season 3 begins in March. You’ll recognize one of the main characters from Longmire. (I like that, too, but I like Dark Winds more.)

  150. 150.

    joel hanes

    January 4, 2025 at 2:21 am

    Wolf Hall, with Mark Rylance and Damian Lewis

  151. 151.

    WaterGirl

    January 4, 2025 at 9:20 am

    @mrmoshpotato:  I watched every episode of Bones when it was on TV. :-)

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    January 4, 2025 at 9:21 am

    @TiredOfItAll: I did watch the first 2 seasons this year.   I didn’t realize a new one would be out soon.  Or soonish. Thanks.

  153. 153.

    way2blue

    January 4, 2025 at 2:32 pm

    Just started watching ‘Treadstone’ on Hulu; a bit choppy at first getting all the plot threads going (based on Bourne series books).  Also watching ‘Person of Interest’ on Amazon Prime and ‘Discovery of Witches’ on Netflix.  Fun.

  154. 154.

    The Lodger

    January 4, 2025 at 4:32 pm

    @piratedan: Brokenwood. Definitely leave CC on for that one. I had it off for some early episodes and was convinced Sgt. Breen’s last name was Brain.

  155. 155.

    Dr. Regina Phalange

    January 4, 2025 at 10:32 pm

    Shetland. Scotland, no guns, great characters and scenery.

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