Sen. Mike Crapo, a Republican from Idaho who chairs the Senate Finance Committee, just refused to swear in Robert F. Kennedy Jr. which would have put his testimony to the Senate under oath.
— Aaron Fritschner (@fritschner.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:20 AM
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Wyden on RFK Jr: "This committee's unwillingness to swear in this witness is basically a message that it is acceptable to lie to the Senate Finance Committee about hugely important questions like vaccines."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 10:24 AM
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Epidemiologist Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD has been doing a comprehensive live thread:
Sen Crapo (R, Gilead) leads off by alleging that this is the first time that HHS has focused on chronic disease, which is an outrageously incorrect claim.
He then claims that Medicaid has been preserved through the Big Beautiful Bill, which is an egregious mischaracterization.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:10 AM
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Sen Wyden (D, OR) says that RFK Jr. is on an āunceasing crusade against vaccinesā, and that RFK Jr.ās primary goal is to ātake vaccines away from Americansā.
This is correct.
He also highlights RFK Jr.ās corruption in that he makes money from undermining vaccines.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:14 AM
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RFK Jr. claims that the recent departures of CDC leaders was a needed āreadjustmentā due to their work to mitigate the pandemic (it was actually as successful as it could have been while people like RFK Jr. sowed misinformation).
He says that the CDC failed to do anything to stop the pandemic.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:29 AM
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Most poor health outcomes in this country are linked to poverty and being unable to afford health care and the falling standards of maternal health care in very red states.
We are pretty obese tho, but not no. 1— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:35 AM
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Wyden asks about RFK Jr. installing quacks on ACIP.
RFK Jr. says that the American Academy of Pediatrics is āgravely conflictedā.
He then says he ādepoliticized ACIPā and that scientists and doctors support him.
No, we do not.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM
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RM Wyden asked Kennedy about claims made by the CDC Director Monarez, who he hand-picked and then fired, about his direct interventions in vaccine policies. Kennedy directly said her claims were false and that she lied in this piece. Guessing we'll hear more about that
www.wsj.com/opinion/robe…— Aaron Fritschner (@fritschner.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:50 AM
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Grassley asked about misconduct in organ transplants.
Kennedy says heās investigating.
Kennedy also appointed Jim OāNeill, a man who thinks we should be able to sell our organs, to lead the CDC.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:47 AM
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Senator Bennet of Colorado points out ACIP member and quack Robert Maloneās numerous lies about vaccines.
RFK Jr. wonāt answer if he was aware of these lies.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:53 AM
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Senator Bennet just asked about ACIPās next meeting and the vaccines they will discuss.
He says that if RFK Jr. changes the vaccine schedule does he anticipate that fewer children will get vaccinated and should parents be prepared for more outbreaks?
He says ACIP wonāt change MMR vaccine recs.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:55 AM
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BENNET: It's a panel you just put that folks on. They are people with ideas that are completely outside the mainstream
RFK Jr: You mean outside the pharmaceutical paradigm?
BENNET: This is not a podcast. This is the American people's health that's on the line here.— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 11:11 AM
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WELL I SURE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING HEALTHIER
— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:39 AM
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Bill Cassidy (R, Invertebrate):
Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for Operation Warp Speed. Do you agree?
RFK Jr.: Yes
Cassidy: But you just said more people died of the COVID vaccine than COVID.
RFK Jr.: No I didnāt.
Narrator: Yes he did— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 11:00 AM
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WARNER: Do you accept the fact that 1 million Americans died from covid?
RFK Jr: I don't know how many died
W: You're the secretary of health and human services. You don't have any idea how many Americans died from covid?
RFK Jr: I don't think anybody knows that
W: How can you be that ignorant?— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 11:18 AM
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Was not expecting this: Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso (R-WY), the second highest ranking Republican in the Senate, just told RFK Jr. he is "very concerned" about RFK's leadership and vaccine policies. He's treating him as a hostile witness, asking about ACIP now
— Aaron Fritschner (@fritschner.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 11:27 AM
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The real story here is that Republicans know the only conceivable chance of getting Trump to give a shit about putting a sociopath in charge of public health is to swaddle it in obsequious praise for Trump and try to get him to see said sociopath as somehow diminishing Trump's glory.
— Greg Sargent (@gregsargent.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 11:50 AM
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WARREN: Did you tell the head of the CDC that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule, that she had to resign?
RFK Jr: No. I told her she had to resign because I asked her 'are you a trustworthy person?" and she said no
WARREN: This is not what she has said— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 12:11 PM
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RFK Jr: I'm not gonna recommend a product for which there's no clinical data. Is that what I should be doing?
WARREN: What you should be doing is honoring your promise you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job, and that is you promised that you would not take vaccines away— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 12:12 PM
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Ron Johnson is having a tantrum about science and says itās all been ācorruptedā.
He is lying about VAERS when he says that the CDC āsuddenlyā turned against it.
This is utterly and completely false. The CDC has always explained that VAERS CANNOT BE USED TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS ABOUT CAUSALITY.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 11:39 AM
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Senator Young (R, Indiana) talks about LongCOVID. This is a surprise to me. He asks about clinical trials.
RFK Jr. mentions two doctors whose ātreatmentsā have been treated with extreme skepticism by actual scientists. One of them ātreatsā people with āongoing symptoms after COVID vaccinationā.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 1:09 PM
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Photo of RFK Jr. texting while Senator Wyden speaks to him.
— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 1:13 PM
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RFK Jr: It's gonna be the biggest infusion of federal dollar into rural healthcare in American history
BERNIE SANDERS: Yeah. You know why? Because you're cutting $150b for rural hospitals, you're putting $50b back. That's not an infusion. That's a loss of $100b.— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 12:16 PM
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Democrats should make a criminal referral to DOJ over Kennedyās outrageous lying to the committee.
— Simon Rosenberg (@simonwdc.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:45 AM
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The last few minutes before the break were very hard to sit through.
Numerous false allegations of corruption in science were made by Ron Johnson and enthusiastically agreed with by Kennedy.
I am stating for the record that if this continues, more violence against scientists will occur.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 11:44 AM
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Warnock to RFK jr: "For the first time, we are seeing deaths of children from measles. We haven't seen that in two decades. We're seeing that under your watch. You are a hazard to the health of the American people."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 4, 2025 at 12:47 PM
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Senator Warnock (D, GA) brings up the CDC shooting. He says prior to the attack the shooter said he was angry about the COVID19 vaccine, are you aware of this?
RFK Jr.: Yes
Warnock: Had you ever been to the CDC as HHS Secretary before the shooting?
RFK Jr.: No— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 12:49 PM
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Sen Warnock: Did you demand that CDC Director Monarez fire career CDC scientists?
RFK Jr.: Yes
Warnock: Did you tell her to accept the ACIP panelās recommendations?
RFK Jr.: I told her I didnāt want her to have a role where she signed on to it— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 12:53 PM
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What this hearing demonstrates, more than anything else I think, is that RFK and co. don't actually have the popular support for their agenda they're claiming, because they have to constantly hedge and side step and claim that they're not doing what they're doing.
— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:53 AM
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RFK pretty clearly wants to take vaccines away, but it's also clear to him that he can't just say that.
— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:53 AM
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My summary of the RFK Jr. hearing:
The danger he poses to the United States was made clear by Democrats.
Two Republican Senators, Cassidy and Tillis, appear to grasp some of the danger.
I do not believe any action will be taken to address the egregious destruction of HHS by RFK Jr.— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 1:17 PM
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Democrats should make a criminal referral to DOJ over Kennedyās outrageous lying to the committee.
— Simon Rosenberg (@simonwdc.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:45 AM
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I think the chances we have a really serious, preventable outbreak in the next couple of years are rising exponentially, and that's kind of scary.
— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 4, 2025 at 10:40 AM
Ohio Mom
Canāt bear to read this ā i know itās awful, and the most awful part is that the seeds of destruction that RFK Jr, and his enablers, all the Republicans (no, not going to give those two a pass), will not sprout for years.
There will be one public health emergency and fiasco after another, to continue with this metaphor, the roots will be deep.
And for most of the victims, there will be no repair possible.
Jackie
Crapo from Idaho (very apropos) was actually allowed to begin the Hearing without swearing Brainworm in??? That makes this hearing a farce. Any answers RFK jr gives canāt be held against him, correct?
Trollhattan
Turtle covering his turtle ass. Why?
Baud
@Trollhattan:
Pretty sure Russia loves us right now. Or at least our government.
Scout211
Lie, lie, lie. Ā Itās whatās for breakfast for the Trump administration.
And in addition to all the lies in the videos that AL posted, Erick Erickson is mad because RFK,jr even lied about Ericksonās wife!
RFK,jr lies while saying everyone else is lying. Ā Nothing new here.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Now that FloriDUH has repealed any vaccine mandates, why don’t they (and the Feds) take the next logical step and get rid of seat belt and car seat mandates?
I mean if we’re gonna take children back to the good ole’ days, why not do it right?
In fact, get rid of those restrictive can’t-sell-cigarettes-to-minors laws. Give em something pleasurable to do while they’re contracting typhus.
Jackie
@Trollhattan:
McConnell doesnāt see where heās 99.9% at fault, does he? Had he enjoined the Senate to impeach FFOTUS, America wouldnāt be in danger because of a wannabe dictator.š”
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Jackie:
My normie wife hates Moscow Mitch and picked up on the term “Gravedigger of Democracy” from somewhere.
Well, ole Mitch helped dig a really nice grave and is now standing over it waiting to fall in.Ā Or get pushed.
Like every member of the modern GOP, he’s responsible for this.
Snarki, child of Loki
Even if sworn in, and the objectively-clear RFKJr lies are referred to the DOJ, does anyone think that the DOJ will prosecute?
Better to just beat liars to a bloody pulp and call it done.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
As usual, Frank Conniff nails it:
jlowe
Haven’t watched any of this yet; don’t have the burning need to process it in real time. But, let me guess: not a word about gutting NIOSH.
Ten Bears
Want to knot their knickers? Give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize for Operation Warp Speed and the fastest ever development of vaccine for a world-wide pandemic like no one had ever seen
mrmoshpotato
Leto
@Jackie: @comrade scotts agenda of rage: laments the fact that his actions for the past 40 years are directly responsible for this. Thereās not enough rockets heading for the sun for all these pustules.
Archon
The advancement of medical science and medical technology Iād argue has been the one area of advancement the past 100 years that has been the closest to an unmitigated success. To see RFK. Jr basically use the government to make a mockery of that is the one area that will throughly confuse and anger future historians when they write about the rolling catastrophe that is the Trump administration.
Leto
@Archon: as a current historian in training, Iāve been angry since forever now. Most historians are, no need to wait for the future. The future is now (old man)!
Belafon
@Baud: Only in the sense that people love it when the opposing team scores an own goal.
Soprano2
The scientists who developed the Covid vaccines in less than a year should get the Nobel Peace Prize, not FFOTUS.
Welcome to America, the newest Third World Country. That’s where we’re heading.
Belafon
@Soprano2: I’m sure I could find plenty of third world countries that would thrive here if we swapped inhabitants.
laura
The man is a straight up serial killer.
Gin & Tonic
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Pretty close to perfect; unfortunately I don’t think many people know who Chet Baker was.
Marc
I wouldn’t cite Erickson as a model of truthfulness either.Ā Why did his wife stop at CVS, rather than do what any typical cancer patient would, go to the clinic that is treating her to get the shot?Ā If she’s really Stage IV, someone is treating her.
Elizabelle
RFK Jr is a fucking liar and a fraud. Ā I hope mortality takes him, as soon as possible.
Elizabelle
@laura: Ā Caroline Kennedy’s precise words. Ā She warned us before the election that RFK Jr. is a “predator.”
Has anyone seen a recent interview with her?
Deputinize America
Guys, could it be that the Kennedys were never as great or brilliant as we’ve been told our entire lives?
Elizabelle
@Ten Bears: Ā That’s not even funny. Ā It’s not.
Trump belongs nowhere near a Nobel Prize.
Elizabelle
@Deputinize America: Ā Some of them were very worthy. Ā It’s a big family.
Obviously, many personal failings, but look at JFK’s press conferences and compare and contrast, particularly with the Republicans that followed. Ā Hell, at this point, W looks better (caught a clip of him in Netflix’s recent documentary series on Katrina).
RFK Jr is bottom of the barrel, and probably a consequence of growing up amidst great wealth and notoriety. Along with some mercy due to the many tragedies that have befallen that family.
Elizabelle
@Jackie: Ā Not to mention stacking the Supreme Court, which has given Trump carte blanche, and overturns carefully reasoned and researched lower court decisions frequently, and without much explanation.
Better that Mitch McConnell had never lived. Ā Effective and evil is a terrible combination.
Belafon
@Marc: Why does that matter? If she went to CVS, and had gotten it there before – that’s where I get my Covid boosters here – it is an issue that it’s no longer available.
Marc
@Deputinize America:Ā Well, Joe Kennedy Sr. was intelligent enough to turn a small pot of cash into dynastic wealth during Prohibition.Ā And, Joe Jr. and Jack could have been placed in somewhat safer assignments during WW II, but both volunteered to take on some of the most dangerous ones of all. They were at minimum much better people than Trump.
Snarki, child of Loki
Trump could have snagged a Nobel Prize very easily: all he had to do was grab Putin at the meeting in Alaska, and render him to the Hague.
The only thing that could have gotten Hitler the Nobel Peace Prize is for “killing Hitler”*.Ā Trump could try that also, too.
(*yes, I know it’s not posthumous, but Trump might not)
Belafon
@Elizabelle: He and Trump both managed to be all the worst qualities of their respective families, and, in Trump’s case, that’s saying a lot.
gene108
@laura:
RFK, Jr. is a eugenicist.
By saying every health problem is due to a lack of proper diet and adequate exercise, it allows people with chronic conditions to be left to rot, because their condition is somehow their fault.
Marc
@Belafon:Ā It matters, as apparently under current Georgia law (which is where I believe the Ericksons currently live), they aren’t allowing pharmacists to give the new booster.Ā There is no indication that medical centers are so restricted.Ā I’m a cancer patient (but not in Georgia), they reflexively offer me a booster just about every time I walk into the clinic.
geg6
Meanwhile, here is how our congressional leadership plans to wage their end of the budget ābattleā that is supposed to set us up for winning the House:
talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/theres-a-new-budget-showdown-senate-dems-current-plan-is-bullshit/share…
I wonāt give my opinion here because I get flamed for it every time I do, but I will say that you really donāt want to be defending these two idiots at this point. Ā You really shouldnāt.
satby
OT, but worth it: Charlie Pierce “Methinks Trump is a Little Scared of Illinois Governor JB Pritzker”
Soprano2
@geg6: I read that, and I agree with Marshall. They are not meeting the moment AT ALL. What they’re doing is political malpractice. I have no idea what the HELL they are thinking. I think some of the time the criticism of them is unwarranted, but not this time. This is their job, and they’re whiffing BADLY.
Belafon
@Marc: Then I believe that’s the whole point
Maybe she can go to her doctors, but then again, being Georgia, she might not be able to get it from them.
Athenaze
Delurking to let you know that you can have your doctor can check your antibody levels for measles, etc, and you can get a booster shot if they are low. I just did this. My doctor said my levels were borderline low, and not something she would typically worry about. But she recommended a booster anyway because she expects more outbreaks and the loss of herd immunity in the next few years.
randy khan
The exchange between Warren and Kennedy about the firing of the CDC head was quite something.
It’s hard to imagine her saying that she was untrustworthy, either in so many words or in anything equivalent to that. Ā I think what he’s referring to is her telling him she couldn’t do what he wanted her to do, which made her untrustworthy in his eyes because she wasn’t a sycophant.
gene108
@geg6:
Democrats have to be willing to allow short term pain for long term gains. Iām on the ACA. The APTC reductions will impact me.
Democrats need to quit shielding people from Republicanās bad policies, and make it clear where the blame lies.
jonas
@Jackie: Can you imagine the five-alarm shitshow that would have ensued if, say, a Democratic committee chair had declined to swear in Anthony Fauci before a hearing or something like that. They don’t even pretend to care anymore.
jonas
I get this sentiment, but given how misinformed/ignorant most voters are about almost every public policy issue, and how disadvantaged Democrats and progressives are in the contemporary media ecosystem, that’s an enormously risky strategy, imho.
Elizabelle
@Belafon:
Very true. Ā And they are both dangerous, callous liars, and personally ugly individuals.
Game met game.
Jeffro
Let’s hustle up and join that “Western Health Alliance”, blue states!
(and states about to flip back to blue, like Virginia!)
(and any other state that wants to save its citizens from unnecessary disease and death)
Glidwrith
I just called both of my Senators, used multiple profanities demanding that Brainworm be removed from office. Called him a mass murderer and that this scientist hates his guts.
Archon
@jonas: True, but in this instance Trump’s authoritarian program will work against him. It’s going to be VERY difficult even with a compliant right-wing press to say, “Even though I’m steamrolling Democrats anything bad that happens is because of Democrats blocking or preventing me from doing X”.
ruemara
I detest giving Cassidy any credit because he voted for this mass murdering psycho. I hate it as much as I hate people giving MTG any credit on Epstein. Bastards, the lot of them.
Anyway
@geg6: Both House and Senate D leaders from the same state particularly one with a dysfunctional Dem party like NY is bad :-(
Trollhattan
@laura:
He could make history of a sort being both a serial and spree killer at the same time.
Jeffro
@satby: that’s awesome – thanks for sharing!
Captain C
RFKjr should be used for medical experiments.Ā Painful ones.
Captain C
@Marc:
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Erick Son of Erick has gone cheapo on his wife’s treatment.
Nettoyeur
@Soprano2: They did. Kariko and Weissman
mrmoshpotato
@Captain C:
Looking at and hearing him, I think he’s already been doing medical experiments on himself.
Betty Cracker
@geg6: All I can say is I hope the reporting is wrong (not Marshallās ā the Punchbowl piece he cites that alleges Dems will provide votes in exchange for a short-term subsidy extension). If thatās correct, fuck those dipshits.
Miss Bianca
Did I dream that WaterGirl had another post up that then disappeared?
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Marc: For a while, the COVID vaccine was only available at pharmacies
Scout211
@Miss Bianca: You didnāt dream it. Ā It was pulled. As was TaMaraās.
Hopefully both will be reposted.
Trollhattan
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
My first two were at a local university, when they were still rationing them.
Impressive piece of logistics and coordination TBH.
coin operated
@Miss Bianca: Not dreaming…I saw it too.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@gene108:
Yes. He doesn’t care that his policies kill and maim babies. If that happens to them, it’s because they’re ‘weak’.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@geg6:
+1.
Scout211
@Jeffro: In addition to the three west coast states, Massachusetts, Colorado, New Mexico, Illinois and Pennsylvania have all put into place ways to make vaccinations more accessible. Ā I think more states will follow.
To circumvent RFK Jr. on vaccines, Democrats and blue states start getting creative
Colorado issues orders allowing people to get a COVID vaccination this year without a prescription
New state order aims to preserve access to COVID booster shots in Mass.
Pennsylvania pharmacy board acts to protect COVID shot access amid federal uncertainty
mrmoshpotato
@satby: Dunno about that.Ā Tribune’s front page is FEDS SET FOR BLITZ.
Also, local news site Block Club Chicago –Ā Trumpās Immigration Crackdown In Chicago Expected To Last More Than A Month
mrmoshpotato
@jonas:
And what if that committee chair was wearing a TAN SUIT!
Sure Lurkalot
From Aaron Ruparās BlueSky feed:
On topic:
Overprescribed vaccines? Fuck man, you really stupid!
Off topic:
Full disclosure: both of my Democratic senators voted to confirm this doofus, one of whom mouthed these words:
Hickenlooper was one of my very many āvote blue no matter whoā candidates in my lifetime but damn if it doesnāt get harder every election.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca:
That did happen.
mrmoshpotato
@Scout211: Probably rescheduled to notĀ bigfoot.
Captain C
@jonas: We’d get several days of Biden Has Foot Parkinson’s-level obsessive coverage, at minimum, from the FTFNYT.
mrmoshpotato
@Sure Lurkalot:
I can only assume RFK Jr thinks we should all be shooting smack instead.
mrmoshpotato
@Captain C:
Foot Parkinson’s? š¤£
Captain C
@mrmoshpotato: That was actually one of the (obviously false) things bandied about after his poor debate performance.Ā IIRC, Campos from LGM was one of the proponents.
Jeffro
@Scout211: great news and thank you for sharing!
I would have thought guns or abortion would be the major breaking point between red and blue states (or perhaps more properly, what forms us into red and blue coalitions of states).
Vaccines, though? Ā Something we have been using to save lives for decades now? Ā Just nuts.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Sure Lurkalot:
We could meet in front of Hick’s house on Montview and fart in his general direction as part of the Sunday meetup!
And don’t let our glibertarian, techbro governor off the hook who, before his about face in the last 24 hours on the Covid vaccine-w/o-a-perscription issue, was defending the Lesser Kennedy by saying “He’s not a Big Pharma CEO like the last one Trump appointed”.
I held my nose voting for his sorry ass although I held it less for Hick.Ā Squeezed it ungodly tight for our Great White Dope of A Mayor, right up there with the pressure applied when I voted for Chuck Fucking Robb in 94 as Oliver North was his opponent.
satby
@mrmoshpotato: ICE agents, but no word on Texas National Guard deployment.
JoyceH
The COVID vaccine is IN MY ARM! No crazy quack can take it away from me now! Seems like availability in Virginia just turned on like a lightbulb. But not for everyone. The nurse at the clinic said a lot of people were calling about it but they can only get it if theyāre over 65 or have a medical condition. (Though it sounds like if a doctor prescribes they wonāt second guess, but itās still an extra step.)
mrmoshpotato
@Captain C: Jesus Fucking Himself…
mrmoshpotato
@satby: These days, I consider both to be invaders.Ā Especially concerning the dog-murdering, letting South-Dakotans-die-of-COVID trash.
Sure Lurkalot
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Instead, letās play bocce and pretend the pallino is Hickās brain, which has obviously been stewed in fracking fluid if he believes Wright is an advocate of clean energy.
Soapdish
@ruemara: MTG gets no credit for Epstein. As I told someone else, it’s a category error. Sheās not doing the right thing, sheās staying committed to to the QAnon conspiracy theories that got her where she is. That theyāre correct in this matter is entirely irrelevant.
BellaPea
I despise that piece of human garbage RFK Jr. as much as I loathe Dump. He was so ugly and disrespectful to the female senators, in particular. He must be a raging sexist who fits in fine with the Orange Idiot’s cabinet of losers. The behavior in that hearing by RFK Jr. and the Republicans is outrageous.
Deputinize America
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
Fuckinā babies have it coming. Demanding little screaming helpless thingsā¦..
Soprano2
@Nettoyeur: Oh yeah, I had forgotten that.
Jackie
@JoyceH: Same thing in WA state. Although in my neck of the woods, Walgreens seems to have the vaccines, but Walmart doesnāt, yet. Costco has the new flu variant, but not the new Covid yet.
I get both shoulders poked Sat morning! I do have to provide proof of age – thatās a first (and a crock of š©)
danielx
Speaking of health care, discectomy and fusion on cervical vertebrae 5 and 6 on Tuesday.
Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.
Trollhattan
Oh, it’s okay when we do it.
Marc
@Belafon: Then he would have been complaining about her doctor’s inability to provide a booster, not CVS.
Marc
@JoyceH: My wife just got hers at CVS by simply making an appointment, she’s under 65 but this is California, they don’t ask too many questions.
Emily B.
Steve Brill here makes a point that I think should be emphasized more: RFK Jr. takes advantage of Americans’ justifiable anger about our expensive, bureaucratic, inequitable healthcare system but ignores the real villains.
Shalimar
@Sure Lurkalot: There is maybe a good faith argument that we overprescribe antibiotics.Ā Overprescribing vaccines doesn’t even make sense.Ā How?Ā Does he not understand what herd immunity is?
Kelly
I’ve walked through pioneer cemeteries. Even as a teenager I noticed “Wow the winter of 18xx was terrible. Look at all these childrens graves a few weeks apart.” My grandparents always told us the vaccineation shots were so worth a pin prick.
Marc
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I’ve been able to get them at UCSF internal medicine or cancer clinics since my first one in a tent there. I mostly get them at Walgreens as it’s more convenient.
Scout211
@danielx: I hope it all goes well for you and your have a quick recovery.
Marc
@danielx: Good luck! I’m still about 40 days away from my neck structural mods. Having a glorified Dremel tool used on my lumbar spine in ’19 was not fun (and I vowed never to let that Orthopedics dept touch my spine in the future), but within a few months I could walk more or less normally again :)
lowtechcyclist
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Mitch is especially responsible for this.Ā There’s a very good chance he could have swung the Senate to convict Trump in 2021 and block him from ever holding Federal office again.Ā Anything he says or does now is much too little, way too late.
Another grave I look forward to pissing on.
Mai Naem mobile
I wish Joe Rogan, Stephen Miller’s bald twin would be held to account for bringing fuckface Jr into HHS. I hope Joe Rogan doesn’t have himself or his wife and his kids vaccinated. Live on the wild side Joe you POS. Also breast cancer survivor Casey Desantis follows Dr. Lobotomy’s advice and not get vaccinated and ofcourse not allow her precious kids to get vaccinated.
Marc
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: or elderly, non-white, non-gender conforming, non-Christian…
lowtechcyclist
@Leto:
That you, George Allen? I thought you were dead!
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@lowtechcyclist:
We plan on smearing poo.
Mai Naem mobile
@lowtechcyclist: Mitch is a complete total racist POS who is very happy to see this country return to the 1800s but,hey, I’m glad he’s around for at least a short period of time to see the consequences of his actions.Ā He can even take credit for the recissions packet since he never kept to senate norms and opened the gateway to completely ripping up.the norms. Take a bow Mitch.
Melancholy Jaques
@geg6:
What Democrats should demand is a package of things that they know the Republicans will not do. Meeting the moment means no dealing, no trade offs, no cooperation. Just say no to anything less than the demands.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@gene108: Most of my chronic health problems (including the one for which I had to be carved up like a turkey this past spring) can be traced directly to getting hit broadside by an SUV doing 45 in a 25 zone downhill in the rain. I fail to see how any type of diet or exercise would have prevented that.
Suzanne
@danielx: Ooooh good luck. Iāve got my everything crossed for you!
Melancholy Jaques
@danielx:
Damn, good luck & hopes for a speedy recovery.
Marc
@Captain C:Ā In my opinion, and that of many others, a number of the issues discussed at the time were not demonstrably false.
Suzanne
@lowtechcyclist:
Just as a refresher (haha!)ā¦.. enjoy.
My loathing for these people isā¦. Unbelievable. Fuck RFK, FFOTUS, and their enablers. Crap-oh, Iām looking at youā¦..
mrmoshpotato
@Mai Naem mobile:
Fuck the adults, but the kids should be vaccinated.
Wait!Ā Joe Roagan has kids?!
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Mai Naem mobile:
It’s not unlike Lee Atwater’s deathbed apologies and equally unacceptable.
And just in case anybody who might be in the area would like to leave an “expression” on his grave site:
findagrave.com/memorial/8286/lee-atwater
matt
Crapo shielded RFK from having to testify under oath? Traitor.
Geminid
@Emily B.: Besides laying off the pharmaceutical industry, RFK Jr. isn’t going after Big Ag either. My guess is that he was instructed as to who he could target and who he could not.
Eyeroller
@Soprano2: The developers of mRNA technology got the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2023.Ā That is far more important for scientists than a Peace Prize.
mrmoshpotato
@Shalimar:
The brainworm doesn’t care.
WaterGirl
@danielx: Ā I’m sorry to hear that you have to have surgery. Ā In a week the worry about it will be behind you, and you’ll be starting your recovery.
mrmoshpotato
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
An expression of bladder.
Geminid
According to veteran Capitol Hill reporter, all but one House Democrats have signed the Massie/Khana Epstein case discharge peition. That includes Texas Reps. Gonzalez and Cuellar who I’d wondered about yesterday.
California Rep. Eric Swallwell says he’ll sign when he gets back to D.C. next week. There was a death in the family- I believe his mother’s– and that’s why he stayed in California.
Once Swallwell signs, the petition will still need two more Republican backers.
Layer8Problem
@danielx, @Marc:Ā The best of luck and smooth sailing to you both.
mr perfect
@BellaPea: I noticed that too, he didn’t take kindly to them uppity wimmin’ talking to him like that.
Baud
@Geminid:
Thanks for the update. I was worried about those two also. Glad to see us unified on this.
Baud
@mr perfect:
Misogyny is ascendant.
mr perfect
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I guarantee you Bobby Brainwork is hopped up on TRT. Ā Only for himself and not others.
mrmoshpotato
@mr perfect:
What is that – cocaine for horses?
geg6
@Melancholy Jaques:
Exactly.
Eyeroller
@geg6: I only skimmed Josh’s pieceĀ (it’s painful) but it seems like Democractic leaders think this is more like business as usual. I want to sympathize with the impulse to try to limit harm to some vulnerable groups but unfortunately, gene108 has it right even though he could be personally harmed:
Mai Naem mobile
@mr perfect: rfk looked physically really bad today. And his make up or fake tan or whatever he uses was done really badly too. You would think Cheryl Hines would at least help him with his appearance.
David Collier-Brown
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Because those mandates are widely approved of
Betty
@danielx: This is late but sending you positive vibes. Stay strong!
David Collier-Brown
@Soprano2: can they give it to three people? The scientist in question, Mr Biden and Mr Trump?
BellaPea
@mr perfect: I kept waiting for the chairman to ask him to please be more professional. I guess since its Republican assholes, that’s not going to happen.
dnfree
@Marc: Agreed. Ā I saw the debate.