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Late Night Open Thread: Guarding DC

by Anne Laurie|  September 17, 20251:52 am| 32 Comments

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A man in Washington, DC, plays the Imperial March from Star Wars while following patrolling soldiers. One of the soldiers threatens to call the police.

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— Raider (@iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social) September 14, 2025 at 2:23 PM

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Resistance to Trump’s D.C. crackdown is taking many forms
Residents want solutions to crime, but many who live here say aggressive federal law enforcement tactics threaten civil rights and instill a sense of fear, not safety.
www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/202…

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— Linda💙🌊🆘🐕🐿️🕊️🇺🇦 (@lindaworkerbee.bsky.social) September 6, 2025 at 8:26 PM

This article is mostly about resistance to ICE, but the National Guard soldiers have become collateral damage. Long piece, but worth reading the whole thing. [Gift link]

… Opponents of what they see as an authoritarian clampdown on the city are embracing impromptu demonstrations, including ringing bells in the masked faces of law enforcement, scribbling signs to warn drivers about ICE checkpoints, bombarding social media with footage of arrests, and employing art and humor to build consensus — and momentum.

A few small organized protests have taken place, and a march planned for Saturday is expected to draw several thousand people. But in the past several weeks nothing has approached the size and scale of the enormous demonstrations aimed at Trump during his first administration, including the Women’s March and the weeks of racial justice protests following the murder of George Floyd.

That’s partly by design, say activists who have been wary of calling for large demonstrations against Trump’s crackdown because of safety concerns and uncertainty about whether a peaceful protest will be met with force and widespread arrests. And, they say, because smaller efforts can be more fruitful right now.

“If a single massive protest could get could get rid of this man, it would have happened already, right? And so we have to think of different things,” said Alex Dodds, co-founder of Free DC, an organization formed earlier this year to protect home rule. “What fixes this is sustained resistance and noncooperation with people who are attempting to use our government, which belongs to us, to harm our communities and to harm us.”…

Some of it is spontaneous: Residents filming and jeering at masked ICE agents making arrests or manning roadblocks in their neighborhoods, commuters yelling at National Guard troops ordered into the District by Trump, crowds heckling Vice President JD Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth in Union Station and telling them to “get out of my city!”

Other events are planned and repeated: Every night at 8 p.m. in various parts of the city, residents gather on street corners, meet in parks or stand on front porches banging pots and pans to show their opposition. People hold signs and wave flags at weekly demonstrations along the District’s major thoroughfares. On Labor Day, protesters raised a large sign reading “Due Process for All” on a bridge over the Baltimore-Washington Parkway. Mobile billboards driven around the city bear messages such as “Why are you hiding your face? Public servants should face the public.”…

In every quadrant of the city, posters, stickers and graffiti blast Trump’s law enforcement surge in D.C. as a threat to liberty and urge residents not to comply. The text on one poster, with images of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson below, reads, “This is the government the founders warned us about.” Another proclaims “In DC, we want ICE out of our community. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.” A stylized poster showing the Constitution with a fist superimposed on it reads, “Defend the Constitution From All Enemies Both Foreign and Domestic.”…

While residents want crime and lawless behavior to be addressed in the city, they are overwhelmingly critical of the Trump administration’s approach, according to a Washington Post poll. Eighty percent of D.C. residents oppose Trump’s executive order to federalize law enforcement in the city, with about 7 in 10 opposing it “strongly.”…

 

National Guard documents accidentally sent to The Washington Post, show troops felt “shame” over Trump-ordered D.C. deployments. The report highlighted unclear objectives, demoralizing tasks, and public disapproval, raising concerns about politicizing military forces
www.techdirt.com/2025/09/12/n…

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— Isabel Santos (@isabelsantos.bsky.social) September 16, 2025 at 6:02 AM

Tim Cushing, at TechDirt — “National Guard Accidentally Sends Evidence Of Troop Disillusionment To The Washington Post”:

This news — you know, the stuff that shows National Guard troops aren’t exactly happy to be expendable pieces in Trump revenge schemes — is unsurprising. No one signed up for this, but Donald Trump and a bunch of suck-ups scattered across a handful of red states have made Trump’s War on DC the new day-to-day operation for troops who’d probably rather be doing anything else than this.

And what exactly is “this?” Well, it’s all sorts of things. Some of “this” is standing idly by while law enforcement officers do law enforcement work. Some of “this” is sleeping on floors, defecating in Humvees, being the constant gardener you never wished to see in the world, and not knowing if you’re actually going to get your next paycheck, much less the pension you’ve been drilling for.

While previous reports of widespread discontent have been mostly hearsay contributed by anonymous troops and officers, this one comes straight from the US military. Yeah, the Department of War is just as sloppy as the guy running it — the one who decided it was okay to share war plans with family members and family members’ acquaintances…

…Not for public consumption, however, is an internal “media roll up” that analyzes the tone of news stories and social media posts about the National Guard’s presence and activities in Washington. […]

“Trending videos show residents reacting with alarm and indignation,” a summary from Friday said. “One segment features a local [resident]describing the Guard’s presence as leveraging fear, not security — highlighting widespread discomfort with what many perceive as a show of force.”

A National Guard official acknowledged the documents are authentic but downplayed their sensitivity, saying the assessments are intended for internal use and were inadvertently emailed to The Post last week…

That’s the sort of unforced error that has been the calling card of the military under Pete Hegseth’s “leadership.” A guy who loves photo ops and fawning interviews more than he likes actually doing his job isn’t an anomaly in the Trump administration. It’s the other thing: emblematic…

… If the military was careless enough to send this to a Washington Post email address, it has likely made the same mistake elsewhere. We’ll see if any other news agency speaks up now that the Post has gone on record with this. Or maybe we’ll discover months or years from now that this was actually a deliberate leak, but one that had to be sternly denied lest Hegseth and the man he owes this unearned position to decide it’s time to bring back summary executions for consorting with the enemy.

That’s the more remarkable part of this report. The rest of it just adds to what we have already assumed and that has been buttressed by a handful of anonymous National Guard members. All of this sucks, and very few troops are fully supportive of invading US cities just to make Trump feel even more powerful…

Saying mean things to Donald Trump is not a RICO predicate act. Even YELLING at Donald Trump is not a RICO predicate act.

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— Stand With Chicago Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) September 16, 2025 at 9:58 PM

/2 Also: if you suggest that shouting at the President in a restaurant is RICO, you are (1) completely without shame or self-respect, and (2) believe, probably accurately, that your chosen audience is made up of total morons.

— Stand With Chicago Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) September 16, 2025 at 10:11 PM

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Also the president, vice president, secretary of state and defense went into an unsecured location. Much bigger problem than "he got yelled at"

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 16, 2025 at 10:06 PM

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    1. 1.

      NotMax

      September 17, 2025 at 1:59 am

      Kitchen staff probably surreptitiously added a little something extra to the plated food as well.

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    2. 2.

      prostratedragon

      September 17, 2025 at 2:14 am

      Work crews have started cutting down trees, removing shrubs and digging up parts of the South Lawn of the White House as they begin work on President Donald Trump’s project to construct a $200 million, 90,000-square-foot ballroom on a site just south of the building’s East Wing.

      Details of the project remain shrouded in secrecy and uncertainty. The White House has not released architectural plans for the building or its exact location and has, so far, not submitted the project to the National Capital Planning Commission, the government body that typically reviews plans for changes to federal property in the capital region.

      “When feasible, trees are preserved and nurtured so they can thrive and eventually be replanted,” she added.
      Videos and photos obtained by The Washington Post show crews sawing off the limbs of one tree before cutting it down, then preparing to work on a larger one next to it.

      Doesn’t look like preservation to me.

      A Log Lady comment.

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    3. 3.

      NotMax

      September 17, 2025 at 2:31 am

      @prostratedragon

      What can you build for $200 million? How about a five story, 160,000 square foot year-round facility with a purpose more beneficial than a glorified dance hall, that will provide employment to hundreds, if not thousands, for decades?

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    4. 4.

      Darkrose

      September 17, 2025 at 3:40 am

      31 House Democrats voted to allow Trump and Congress to override DC sentencing guidelines.

      Ankit Jain, DC junior shadow senator, said:

      Congressional Democrats voted today to sell out Washington DC and their constituents, as numerous Dems backed bills advancing the Trump takeover of DC. After meeting with our Council and saying nice things, @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social and leadership *declined* to whip a No vote on the bills

      I’m not surprised that Jeffries was useless.  I am deeply disappointed in Eugene Vindman, who knows firsthand that Trump and the GOP can’t be trusted.

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    5. 5.

      YY_Sima Qian

      September 17, 2025 at 3:52 am

      More horror stories from the ordeals that the South Korean engineers/specialists detained from the Hyundai/LG factory in Georgia:

      Raphael Rashid @koryodynasty

      1/ Shocking new testimonies reveal systematic torture-like abuse at Georgia ICE facility on Korean workers: pregnant woman fearing for unborn child, handcuff burns, forced medical injections without consent, and staff neglecting workers having seizures and medical collapses.
      2/ Yonhap News TV obtained exclusive photos showing a Korean worker’s wrist from the Georgia detention facility. The images reveal clear red burn marks caused by handcuffs/cable ties. Worker testified that “quite a few people” suffered similar injuries.
      3/ Testimonies also reveal forced medical procedures. One worker claims that during health checks before formal facility admission, despite refusing all tests, facility staff forcibly administered a tuberculosis injection against their will.
      4/ “After receiving the jab, my skin swelled up and I was very anxious.” Another said: “I remember a friend among us whose arm swelled up after getting injected. He said he didn’t know what it was and got the shot. He said they stabbed him with a needle in upper left wrist area.”
      5/ Medical emergencies were allegedly ignored by facility staff. A worker collapsed due to worsening chronic sleep disorders, with symptoms deteriorating during detention, eventually leading to serious breathing difficulties. Staff apparently just watched, did nothing.
      6/ Meanwhile, MBC revealed that a pregnant Korean engineer was among those detained in what she describes as torture-like conditions. She was working on computer tasks in the factory office when ICE agents forcibly took her away without explanation.
      7/ The pregnant engineer held a legal B1 visa specifically for battery equipment installation work. She was scheduled to return to Korea this very week after completing her assigned work at the facility.
      8/ She was arrested on charges of illegal residence and held in the detention facility in a red prison uniform. She testified: “I appealed that my visa was still valid, but they didn’t even pretend to listen.”
      9/ Detention conditions were horrific: over 30 people were crammed into a single room with just 3 sinks and 4 toilets in an open area. Privacy was non-existent, creating degrading conditions for female detainees “who were menstruating”.
      10/ When she informed guards she was pregnant, they only responded that she *would be* moved to “a room with slightly better conditions”. She witnessed another female detainee having seizures and being neglected, fearing for her own unborn child should a medical emergency happen.
      11/ “I really thought they were going to kill someone, and I was terrified,” she said. “I was so shocked that I wasn’t having morning sickness anymore and worried something had happened to my baby.”
      12/ Food was apparently completely inedible. “Even the bread smelled bad and sour,” she said. “I couldn’t eat it.”
      13/ Only after returning to South Korea and getting checked at a hospital could she finally breathe a sigh of relief when she learned that her baby was healthy. She says she has nightmares every night now, and “really wants to sue… in the country of lawsuits”.
      14/ South Korea’s foreign ministry has announced it will investigate these abuse cases and will raise issues with the US if necessary. The mounting physical evidence and testimonies paint a picture of systematic human rights violations at the ICE facility.

      Sadly, par for the course for such ICE facilities, but surely shocking & appalling to South Korean audiences.

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      Baud

      September 17, 2025 at 3:56 am

      Democrat Xp Lee wins race to succeed Melissa Hortman, restoring Minnesota House tie

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      Baud

      September 17, 2025 at 4:13 am

      Politico

      Service academies to accept conservative alternative to SAT and ACT

      Applicants will be able to submit CLT scores beginning in the 2027 admissions cycle.

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    8. 8.

      NotMax

      September 17, 2025 at 4:22 am

      @Baud

      Conservative Liar Test?
      //

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    9. 9.

      John Revolta

      September 17, 2025 at 4:33 am

      the country of lawsuits”.

      God, it makes ya proud, doesn’t it? Kinda brings a lump to the old throat! USA! USA! (You better cheer along, buddy, if you don’t want to hear from my lawyers……..)

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    10. 10.

      bjacques

      September 17, 2025 at 4:53 am

      Popehat is right. It’s irresponsible and dangerous to shout RICO! in a crowded eatery.

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    11. 11.

      David Anderson

      September 17, 2025 at 4:59 am

      How challenging is it to learn bagpipes well enough to make cats in heat think that sound is slightly annoying?

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    12. 12.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      September 17, 2025 at 5:19 am

      What really frightens me is the unsubstantiated thing I heard that badmouthing a dead right-wing extremist firebrand can be used as an excuse to revoke one’s passport. If that isn’t government interference in free speech, I don’t know what would qualify.

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    13. 13.

      Baud

      September 17, 2025 at 5:22 am

      Reading this Reddit post may get you fired.

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      YY_Sima Qian

      September 17, 2025 at 5:24 am

      @Bruce K in ATH-GR: Repubs are proposing such legislation in Congress, not law, yet.

      There are somewhat similar precedents during the McCarthy era “Red Scare”, where the State Department refused to issue passports to US citizens suspected of being Communist sympathizers (meaning anyone Left leaning) to travel overseas.

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      Baud

      September 17, 2025 at 5:32 am

      The Trump administration continues its bold efforts to address the root causes of economic anxiety.

      Pentagon says troops can only be exempt from shaving their facial hair for a year

      …

      Most shaving waivers are for troops diagnosed with pseudofolliculitis barbae, or PFB, a condition in which hair curls back into the skin after shaving and causes irritation. It is a condition that disproportionately affects Black men.

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      YY_Sima Qian

      September 17, 2025 at 5:33 am

      I did not realize Bessent owned thousands of acres of farmland in North Dakota. Oh the irony (gift link to NYT article below):

      China’s Snub of U.S. Soybeans Is a Crisis for American Farmers
      North Dakota farmers are scrambling to find extra storage space and bracing for land values to fall as soybeans that should be bound for China begin to pile up.
      By Alan Rappeport
      Alan Rappeport reported from Fargo, Kulm and Wimbledon, North Dakota.
      Sept. 15, 2025

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      Matt McIrvin

      September 17, 2025 at 5:43 am

      @YY_Sima Qian: But what they’re concurrently trying to do is force states to demand proof of citizenship to vote, with a passport being the most reliable way to do that. Of course, a passport is an expensive and cumbersome thing to get under the best of circumstances, and many people don’t have them.

      (A birth certificate or certificate of naturalization should work, but of course the Trump administration asserts that those don’t really count as proving citizenship either. In fact it’s not clear they regard anything in particular as proof positive of citizenship–they get to pick who is really a citizen. I suppose the logical endpoint is that to vote, you have to prove that Donald Trump would like you.)

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      YY_Sima Qian

      September 17, 2025 at 5:48 am

      @Matt McIrvin: Oh, the reactionaries are definitely working hard to turn the US into an illiberal managed democracy under their domination.

      I am definitely glad I got the PRC permanent resident card early this year. Perhaps I should be glad that the PRC’s procedure for withdrawing one’s PRC citizenship is so cumbersome that I (& probably 99.99% of PRC emigrés have never gone through w/ it), even though my PRC passport & residence permit have long been voided.

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      bjacques

      September 17, 2025 at 6:06 am

      @Bruce K in ATH-GR: by the way, we’re staying in Greece this week, near Pylos, and were treated to a harangue on a beach by a Greek person to a British couple seated nearby. He sounded almost American and volunteered he had (or has) lived n Miami

      He accepted unquestioningly that Kirk was a martyr for free speech and then reeled off some of Kirk’s greatest hits. The British couple were from Cambridge and the husband had been reading the London review of books. Eventually he wound down and left. We pretending not to listen and left before he finished, so didn’t catch the couple’s reaction then.

      When he first turned up, he was wearing a scuba mask and the top half of a wetsuit and was carrying a black Nike gym bag. Having seen way too many movies, I kept a close eye on him to see him withdraw a towel and not something else. It turns out this particular beach—more of a cove, really—is excellent for snorkeling, and I saw at least one other person busy at it. By the way, this beach also has the remains of a Mycenaean tomb on the hill overlooking it, via a short and easy trail.

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    20. 20.

      What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

      September 17, 2025 at 6:15 am

      I’m to the point where I think defunding the entire national security apparatus sounds pretty good. I won’t deny there’s a lot of home grown crazy but without Putin’s social media influence campaign I doubt Trump ever becomes president. Ten years later the CIA, NSA, FBI etc have not a single effective countermeasure. That’s a big fat failure to protect and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.

      I’ve never been convinced that our wold spanning overseas deployments do all that much to keep us safe, and now the personnel here are being used to oppress their own citizens. So shut it all the fuck down, including the weapons programs and all those contracts with big tech. What’s the fucking point? No foreign invader ever has or could have done this much damage to the country in more that two centuries and they haven’t even tried to slow it down. It’s all completely useless as far as I can tell.

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      Scott

      September 17, 2025 at 6:45 am

      I disagree with the urge to harass the NG troops.  They are victims of Trump as much as anyone.  They need to be peeled away from the right wing patriotic phonies.  Maybe hand out flowers?  Or treats?

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      lowtechcyclist

      September 17, 2025 at 6:49 am

      Deputy AG Blanche: So is it sheer happenstance that individuals show up at a restaurant where the president is trying to enjoy dinner and accost him with vile words?

      Nope, and it’s not coincidence either. It’s enemy action, and he deserves every bit of it.

      He deserves much worse, of course, but that’s the most anyone can do right now.

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      Trivia Man

      September 17, 2025 at 7:14 am

      DC soldiers: Are we the baddies?

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      randy khan

      September 17, 2025 at 8:30 am

      I had my first sighting of National Guard troops in downtown DC yesterday, three of them standing at one of the entrances to the Metro Center Metro station.  They looked bored, even with their guns.  Still, it was a bit disturbing.

      Metro Center is one of the busiest stations because 4 of the 6 Metro lines converge there, but it is in one of the safest parts of town, so the presence of the National Guard is purely performative.  But it’s also just a few blocks from the White House, so it may make White House staffers feel better to see Guard troops there.

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      stinger

      September 17, 2025 at 8:46 am

      During his confirmation hearings, Hegseth vowed that if he was confirmed, he’d go on the wagon. Now he’s buying rounds at taverns. None of them keep their word about anything.

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      twbrandt

      September 17, 2025 at 8:59 am

      A National Guard official acknowledged the documents are authentic but downplayed their sensitivity, saying the assessments are intended for internal use and were inadvertently emailed to The Post last week…

      “inadvertently emailed”. Yeah, right.

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      waspuppet

      September 17, 2025 at 9:10 am

      @Scott: The Guard members I’ve talked to were clearly embarrassed. I had plans to get in their faces about what they were doing but after 30 seconds of conversation they were so clearly embarrassed that it just would have been mean — especially the first wave, who were DC Guard and therefore actually lived here.

      I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing any secret police out and about. I’m looking greatly forward to that.

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      lou

      September 17, 2025 at 9:55 am

      I live in DC and do a lot of walking. The NG deployment is such a waste of taxpayer dollars. They either wander around in big clumps (The Waterfront, Navy Yard), or lean against retaining walls chitchatting or playing with their phones (The Mall). The NG in the Metro stations are the scariest. Some lean on the mezannine balconies looking down on the train and looking bored (Dupont Circle, Union Station), but others have their long guns at attention (Waterfront, Navy Yard).

       

      I have kept a respectful distance to them. On the other hand, I’m banging pots at 8 p.m. and photo’d an arrest of a young black man who was with his wife and child in a Honda Civic near Lincoln Park. It was Park Police backed up by unidentified other people, some wearing masks. I think the charge of possession of weed (legal in DC!) A crowd gathered and we were yelling things like “Sieg Heil!” “How does it feel to belong to the KKK?” etc.

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      Paul in KY

      September 17, 2025 at 11:54 am

      @NotMax: I do feel sorry for the poor guard troops. They have been ordered to go there. If they refused, UCMJ would come into play.

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      Paul in KY

      September 17, 2025 at 11:57 am

      @Baud: Served with a guy who had that condition. It is very painful, when the hair grows back into the skin. Icky looking too.

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      Dan B

      September 17, 2025 at 4:13 pm

      @Paul in KY: 60% of black men have the condition.  Hegseth wants an all white military.  He’s going to harass every minority.

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      Paul in KY

      September 17, 2025 at 7:57 pm

      @Dan B: Sad to say that appears to be what is happening. Feel so bad for all who has to endure such petty BS!

      Reply

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