Most of us here despise James Comey for the terrible damage he has caused.
But if we say he’s getting what he deserved, we are making a dangerous mistake. Today it’s James Comey. Tomorrow it’s Hillary or Andy McCabe (again) or Marc Elias or a Democrat who is running for office.
The chorus of all who believe in the rule of law should be the same –
This is abuse of power. This is weaponization of government. This is unacceptable.
This is a chance to unite. Let’s take it.
WaterGirl
And because we can walk and chew gum at the same time, here’s a beautiful picture of the bride that Joelle sent me
billcoop4
@WaterGirl:
Totally agree with the post and your Comment 1 :)
BC in NY
Layer8Problem
@WaterGirl: Awww!
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I usually either choke or trip.
WaterGirl
This gives us an opening to talk with anyone in our life who voted for FFOTUS or stayed home. There is no legitimate political argument that can be made for this.
This isn’t a political issue where reasonable people can disagree.
We cannot let this be made into a political issue. This should be horrifying to anyone who loves our country or believes in the rule of law.
rb
Good post.
Personally I find it helpful not to let the discussion veer into considerations of what this or that person ‘deserves.’ It’s at best distraction, and often veers into the truly fetid (“these children don’t DESERVE school lunch.”)
I am human and so I do have personal opinions about what Comey ‘deserves.’
But on the more direct and admissible political consideration of whether he should face malicious and capricious prosecution: of course not. Such a thing is anathema to everything we hold dear. It’s not even a question on which we can reasonably disagree.
WaterGirl
@Layer8Problem: I love that we can see the wedding dress material in this photo. It looks kind of like mesh. Love that.
Shalimar
If Comey were being punished for what he did wrong, I would be all for it. Hell, if he were being punished for what Trump thinks he did wrong, investigating the Russia ties to the 2016 campaign, I would be all for litigating that in a criminal trial too. Problem is, Comey is being punished for something that DoJ has no evidence he did, just because Trump wants him to hurt. And that is some serious bullshit.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
What Comey deserves has got nothing to do with it. No government should be allowed to haul someone off to prison just because people in charge of the government don’t like the victim’s opinions.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl: Beautiful!
sherparick
Also, because they are coming for Jim Comey, they are also coming for the rest of us. Read Steve M’s latest post on No More Mister Nice Blog
nomoremister.blogspot.com/2025/09/theyre-making-their-move-to-criminalize.html
Aimai
@WaterGirl: thank you!!!
sherparick
@WaterGirl: Joelle, you are a beautiful bride and John is a very lucky man.
Anonymous At Work
Most of us despise Comey because he refuses to acknowledge he was playing politics and that he effed up royally.
I’d knot the jury for as long as possible and then vote to acquit on all charges, plus indict/convict the prosecution.
HinTN
Beautiful fall foliage in the sidebar to go with the blushing bride. Well done, @WaterGirl:.
Jeffg166
No fan of Jim but he shouldn’t be persecution by the Nazis.
Derelict
I’m waiting for Trump to declare the Democrat Party is a supporter of AntiFa and thus all its assets and funding must be stripped and closed down. He pretty much said this in his tweet the other day, so I fear it’s just a matter of time before he makes it official.
With that as background, as much as I hate Comey, I love the rule of law even more. Comey’s indictment should never have happened, and I hope he’s not railroaded by Trump simply declaring any exculpatory evidence as classified and/or protected by executive privilege–including documents that have already been released to the public like the Senate Intelligence Committee Report.
Shalimar
@Bruce K in ATH-GR: Comey is not going to prison. When you balance the evidence to try to reach “beyond a reasonable doubt”, the government doesn’t even have evidence to balance. Charging him was egregious, and every lawyer at DoJ other than Halligan knows it. This will hurt Trump in the end for pushing this to the point where a judge will embarrass him by throwing it out.
But yeah, even trying this take a hammer to the rule of law.
WaterGirl
@Shalimar:
That, too, is abuse of power and weaponization of government and weaponization of the justice system.
Would you really be good with that?
Shalimar
@sherparick: I agree they are trying to criminalize being a member of the opposition. It will be a long, sustained assault. But I don’t agree this is part of it, because the case is so weak and they’re going to lose. This is just kissing Trump’s ass to get him to stop whining.
different-church-lady
He’s not getting what he deserves. He’s paying for his mistake.
Shalimar
@WaterGirl: Would I be good with abuse of power far worse than anything Nixon did? Absolutely not. It is a horrible assault on American jurisprudence. But it’s also a massive overreach on a terrible case, and I would rather let Comey litigate Russia all over again in a criminal trial than have them try something that they’re more likely to win. We still have judges. DoJ can’t just do whatever they want.
billcoop4
Still agree with Post #1 even though it’s been edited to be more than a
.
BC in NY
different-church-lady
@Shalimar:
ALITO: “Is that so?”
JML
I just want all the defenses of Comey to be “even assholes like this smug jerk shouldn’t be targeted by the government”. We can slap down this disgusting and corrupt use of power without valorizing Comey.
Good luck to The Bride!
No One of Consequence
Good morning all. 2 seconds of song caught my ear this morning:
youtu.be/RY7S6EgSlCI?t=77
I think this is great actually. Who among us did not see overreach as the main means to The End? The way I look at it, Mangolini is advancing the timeline. Fantastic. Surely nothing can go wrong, seeing the tremendous leadership displayed by his chosen thus far.
This is bluff and bluster. The Courts can either acquiesce, or not. The Supremes can either validate, or not. If either or both occur, again, this advances the timeline. These guys wanna go for broke.
Literally.
They want to break our system of government.
Sit with that a moment.
Now consider, how unlikely it is that enough of our fellow citizenry are going to be ok with that. Sure, we’ve failed in the past, but I like our track record when IMMINENT DEMISE is presented as an option to the survival of our country. (Assumes some facts not in evidence at this time.)
Yeah yeah yeah, they’ve got Big Plans and the Levers of Power. But pain and suffering are coming, and the prices at the grocery store keep going up but not our paychecks. They don’t have that much circus, and bread is looking more and more sparse.
So. The way I see it, they advance their own doom. Sure, lots of pain on the way. Hurting fellow citizens. I am sorry for what is coming, but I never reasonably thought that the pain was unavoidable. Too many of our fellow citizens couldn’t be bothered to lever their ass off the couch and vote Prevention.
Let’s have a trial. Let’s get more information about The Fuckery into the public record via adjudication. This is why we have these institutions. Let’s test them. Many are failing, but they were specifically staffed and headed to fail. Let’s see how this plays out.
Maybe Ma and Pa ‘Merka will come to realize that the comforting feel of the warm and wet begins to lose the appeal when their olfactory kicks in and they find themselves unable to countenance the smell.
We can hope. I do anyway. (ETA: I think maybe Oct 18th will be pretty massive. Perhaps the largest thus far.)
-NOoC
Baud
@JML:
She’s gonna need it!
Shalimar
@different-church-lady:
I agree with you that Scalia and Thomas would vote that this did not apply to Comey’s case if it came up on appeal, but I think that would be too much for the other 4 monarchists.
Baud
@Shalimar:
Pretty sure Scalia won’t vote that way.
Doug R
Could this be an implicit threat to James Comey’s daughter?
IIRC she was a prosecutor in New York, she’s almost certainly seen some of the Epstein Files.
Almost Retired
I’m sure no one at the DOJ really thinks Comey or any of the other democratic ham sandwiches they’re trying to indict will be convicted. But forcing them to run up legal bills is good enough to stifle dissent. The hourly rate top criminal defense attorneys charge shocks me (also mix in some envy).
Also, whenever I see Comey, it always makes me wonder if those under-eye tighteners they advertise on cable TV are effective for eye bags. I can be quite superficial.
chemiclord
I think it’s possible to hold two thoughts concurrently.
1) That no one should ever be railroaded by a fascist government pushing bullshit action to get revenge on people who slighted them.
2) That if anyone should be among the first to face the consequences of enabling a fascist government in the United States, it might as well be James Comey, especially since to this day, he has not shown any signs that he thinks he fucked up.
Sure, it’s fine to ask everyone to “come together.” But it’s also reasonable to ask those we’re bringing in to demonstrate some goddamn self-reflection.
Shalimar
@Baud: He shouldn’t vote that way. Anyone taking an LSAT should know better even before they start law school. But I think he knows he can’t be removed and no longer cares about consequences.
Baud
@Shalimar:
He definitely no longer cares about the consequences.
azlib
Good read on the legal front about this “case” and other legal issues.
electoral-vote.com/evp2025/Items/Sep26-1.html
My read is the legal work out of DOJ is shoddy at best and this case is likely to be thrown out quickly as it should be.
Marcopolo
@Shalimar: Baud is having fun here but I feel obligated to point out that Scalia has been 6 feet in the ground for a while now.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Massive walkout at the UN as Netanyahu takes the stage
Just Some Fuckhead
Fuck Comey. I’ll wait for the next opportunity to unite.
Steve in the ATL
@billcoop4: BTW, I went to W&L undergrad, not law school
Socolofi
Comey is the first kick of the mule, in that Trump is coming for Republicans too.
Let’s see if they are willing to grow a spine, or if they just bend over for more mule kicks.
different-church-lady
@Baud: Scalia definitely won’t.
leeleeFL
What’s being done by the current DOJ is a threat to all of us! Comey may have other crap to answer for, but this is a threat to DEMOCRACY, not one man! I hope we can all put aside the anger we feel about past BS, and focus on the current debacles. Time enough later to let Comey we still hate what he did in 2016.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: That’s a wow with ALL CAPS!
Good for them.
WaterGirl
@Just Some Fuckhead: Nice to see you here.
Have you been around enough to know that Cole & Joelle got married yesterday?
different-church-lady
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I adore how taken aback he looks.
WaterGirl
@leeleeFL: That’s how I feel, too. Obviously! :-)
WTFGhost
Well, I don’t like James Comey, and I find it amusing to see him hoist by his own petard. He ignored blatant corruption by Republicans in 2016; if he goes broke defending himself against Republican corruption, or ends up in jail, that is not the part that’s going to stick in my gut like a pile of broken glass.
NO ONE should have the right to wield the law like a weapon, to create bogus prosecutions. That was one of the great fears of the founders – that the executive would act in precisely this manner, which is why we have a Bill of Rights. The Fourth Amendment is supposed to say “you can’t even *hassle* a person, without a judicial warrant, or probable cause” and the Fifth Amendment says you can’t even *detain* someone (removing their freedom) without judicial – not executive – oversight. What the founders didn’t anticipate is that half of the governing power in this nation would go to people who don’t believe in truth, just, ways to shape public perceptions via the correct “alternative facts.” If they can write news releases that say Comey is guilty, Comey is guilty; he shouldn’t have made an enemy of “TRUMP”.
trollhattan
Quelle surprise, the indictment lies.
x.com/DilanianMSNBC/status/1971557098744922323
Maybe Mister Judge tosses it?
TurnItOffAndOnAgain
@chemiclord: THIS. And I’m pretty sure a good amount of the posters here have been demonstrating the ability to hold both thoughts in their head at the same time.
Plus, in times like these, you got to get your satisfaction where you can.
bjacques
What a gorgeous photo!
And the law protects a dumb, arrogant son-of-a-bitch with a stick jammed so far up his ass he can’t look around to see the damage he was going to do or it protects nobody
iKropoclast
@trollhattan: Putting words in the mouths of enemies is a critical component of “Conservative” free speech. It would be crazy, but it wouldn’t shock me if the Supremes allowed Trump’s DOJ to base charges on falsely attributed statements.
It can always be adjudicated at the fair trial the defendant is entitled to, after all..
ETA: And terrible thing about Comey, but forgive me for not being as upset as I might be if it were almost anyone else.
Layer8Problem
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Jeepers, that ought to provoke a headline or two.
Paul in KY
@WaterGirl: Awwww. John is a lucky dude!
iKropoclast
@WaterGirl: I actually really like all the little adornments on this dress.
RevRick
@rb: If I were to assign to verbs the designation of “foul language”, “dirty words”, or “curses” there would be two sets of synonyms:
1). Deserve, earn, merit;
2). Should, ought, must.
They are often used as weapons to demean people. Sadly, we often use them to demean ourselves.
Paul in KY
@JML: I like your framing!
Bupalos
I appreciate this post, and I’ll add that the fact that it really is necessary is evidence of the way we have allowed ourselves to become part of the degeneration of democracy through internet brain-rot. Condemnation for a banana republic style show-trial should be reflexive, overwhelming, and not preceded or accompanied by various kinds of partisan throat-clearings and hat-tips to retribution and karmic justice. Solidarity means moving beyond your deep feelings of like and dislike and historic wrong. It doesn’t mean purging your ranks or enforcing conformity. It doesn’t mean accepting the help of people you don’t like while muttering under your breath that you don’t like them and hope they get wrecked in the end.
There’s not much daylight between some of the stuff we see from the left on this and the way wingers talk about Trump as an imperfect vessel for divine justice.
WaterGirl
@iKropoclast: Me, too.
brendancalling
Obviously, I don’t think Comey *deserves* to be dragged into a show trial, just as I don’t think a balloon-headed, large-gummed, shit-talking, racist propagandist deserves to be murdered.
But I’ll be goddamned if he gets an ounce of sympathy from me. I don’t have to feel sorry for him to know and acknowledge that what’s happening to him is wrong. Kind of like I can simultaneously believe that the charges against Larry Flynt for his (actually quite hilarious) parody of a Campari ad were total BS, while also believing that Larry Flynt was a complete and total scumbag.
Paul in KY
@Baud: But…ZombieScalia would! Buwahahahaha!
different-church-lady
@Bupalos: You remain tedious.
Bupalos
@different-church-lady: Actually what is happening is Trump is picking a weak link that the moralizing left, with its illiteracy regarding solidarity, is conflicted about defending. There have literally been more nasty words written about Comey over this in these kinds of spaces than about Trump.
Paul in KY
@Just Some Fuckhead: Good to see your handle! I was thinking you might be dead or something.
Captain C
@different-church-lady:
then,
ALITO: “As Grand Inquisitor Torquemada clearly wrote in 1492, ‘The inquisition’s here and it’s here to stay.’ This is why it’s totally legal, nay compulsory, for Dear Leader to mercilessly prosecute his enemies via any means necessary, including using the instruments for kicks. Pardon me, I need a moment to myself…”
RevRick
@WaterGirl: Yes, this weaponization of the DOJ is unacceptable and a travesty of justice, but unless we sit on the jury there is little we can do about the Comey case.
We can, however, voice our displeasure to our members of Congress. And there is a big nationwide demonstration taking place in October which we can promote and add our voices.
Beyond that, we can express our outrage on various social media, especially those where the other side shows up.
WTFGhost
@Just Some Fuckhead: EEEEEW. You’d *FUCK* him? I wouldn’t subject my penis to proximity to such toxic horror.
@Marcopolo: And the air is that much more pleasant to breathe, now.
@chemiclord: No one’s asking you to give him a medal, or even a firm handshake; you can hide your top-shelf booze the moment his face is positively identified; you can spit on his shoes, and say “good luck in the court case, we know it’s bullshit, but I gotta admit, you ain’t no ‘innocent victim’.”
“Unite” means “We all agree, Trump doesn’t get to prosecute people on bogus charges, not even someone we dislike intensely.”
Previously, “unite” meant “we, here, don’t celebrate political assassination, even if it was a scumsucker who died.”
@different-church-lady: That’s a good way to put it.
@Shalimar: “Comey is not going to prison…” can only be said with “we hope.” You’re right, unless the USA has gotten far more corrupt, far quicker than we realized, Comey will skate on the charges, having only lost a metric fuqueton of money paying for jail-prevention. I happen to agree with you that the facts of the case are not even tissue thin, they’re made up entirely. That doesn’t mean the courts won’t show “deference to the privileges of the executive,” and throw an innocent man in jail. The Fifth Amendment should have protected Kilmar Abrego Garcia, but he’s been to an El Salvador prison for the “crime” of being in the US without citizenship. Comey has advantages, being white and considered respectable (meaning he has a penis, and a white collar job, in addition to being white) – it doesn’t mean he’ll be safe, just that he has a much better chance of being safe, after being forced to defend himself.
Captain C
@trollhattan:
Hopefully with an opinion in fine legalese which basically says, “Are you fucking kidding me? I’m reporting you to the relevant bar associations for deliberate fuckery!”
Miss Bianca
You know, I can think Comey is a smug, Republican-Establishment-humping piece of shit who literally did his bit to sow the wind that spawned the whirlwind he is currently reaping, and STILL think that what’s being done to him is wrong and look forward to his prevailing in court.
Is that REALLY so fucking complicated or compromised as a moral position?
@WaterGirl: also, too, that photo of Joelle is awesome.
Baud
@Miss Bianca:
No, but people like to scold us, so they’ll find a way.
Emily68
@Shalimar: Comey has hired Patrick Fitzgerald to defend him. I’m betting that whoever gets to prosecute Comey will rue the day the indictment came down.
Emily68
ExPatExDem
I’m starting to wonder if Hegseth’s meeting of the Generals is going to be a Night of the Long Knives type event.
Just Some Fuckhead
@WaterGirl: I was pleasantly surprised I wasn’t invited to the wedding.
iKropoclast
Come to think of it, I’m not sure I’ve actually seen anyone on here outright celebrating the indictment. Is this just more batting at nameless phantoms?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@ExPatExDem: My guess is he wants them to swear loyalty to Trump
iKropoclast
@Dorothy A. Winsor: and if not…?
trollhattan
From the No duh file.
rikyrah
SHOULD he have been charged?
No.
Period.
But, that’s all I got.
I’m STILL bitter about 2016.
All he had to do is follow standard FBI Protocol…
but, his azz wouldn’t do that
Dorothy A. Winsor
@iKropoclast: They will be replaced by officers Trump calls “my generals”
iKropoclast
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I know he’s dumb, but I think even Trump should recognize that he doesn’t want a faction of pissed-off generals about the country with a loss of livelihood, some shame, and endless time on their hands.
Joy in FL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Thank you for posting that (comment #37). That heartened me.
Miss Bianca
@iKropoclast: I think different-church-lady @ 21 summed up how I feel far more pithily (as is her wont) than I did:
“He’s not getting what he deserves, he’s paying for his mistake.”
iKropoclast
@Miss Bianca: That’s the whole truth, very efficiently expressed.
CaseyL
@iKropoclast:
Like when Generalissimo Conquistador Fantastico Bremer dissolved the army in Iraq. That worked out well, right?
Ghost of Joe Lebling’s Dog
@Marcopolo:
“Scalia has been 6 feet in the ground for a while now.”
Well, it’s never too late to
celebratesoberly reflect on his good works and praise them.iKropoclast
Yeah, pretty much like that, though I expect their response here in the US to play out more as a media and political phenomenon. Still, all the old Republican hits are new again. Destroy an organization you deemed evil, sure, but an organization is an abstract entity. The people are still around.
iKropoclast
@Ghost of Joe Lebling’s Dog: 😳
Breaking News: Antonin Scalia still dead!
CaseyL
@iKropoclast: I think one of the things he might do is order a re-segregation of the armed forces, and expel all the women.
Dave
@Miss Bianca: It is not at all.
And I’m not apologizing for recognizing the dramatic irony of it either.
Especially since I haven’t seen anyone say “good he deserves it”.
Asking people to be on “my” message in the comments section of a top 10,000 political blog is silly.
frosty
I’m going to say, yes he’s that dumb. Or so narcissistic that he can’t believe anyone would be pissed off at him.
iKropoclast
@CaseyL: I thought that was already underway.
CaseyL
@iKropoclast: Among the top ranks, yes. SFAIK, the destruction hasn’t yet filtered down to the enlisted forces.
trollhattan
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
The test is simple: approach Trump, tears in eyes, and say “Sir…”
trollhattan
See, there are limits.
And the kicker—”You know better than to do this, Thompson! On camera? We taught that first day!”
lou
The New York Times speculates the next attempts at prosecution will be George Soros and Reid Hoffman since Trump has singled them out. Letitia James isn’t out of danger yet.
The purpose of these prosecutions isn’t to send people to jail. It’s to quell dissent and chill support for Democrats and left-leaning causes. I wish people would understand that.
Bill Arnold
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
That would be akin to the Hitler Oath starting in 1934 (roughly).
Out of sequence a bit, the USA has already banned the small demonized trans minority from military service; in Nazi Germany Jews were banned from serving in the military in 1935.
Let us hope it is just P. Hegseth flexing.
Fair Economist
I think this is a walk and chew gum at the same time situation. We can oppose this trumped-up fake charge against Comey, while pointing out that this is what happens to people who help fascists into power. Even venal, evil people need to understand – don’t help facsistsl you’ll always suffer for it.
MikefromArlington
Abuse? Yes.
Many other abuses so I wouldn’t waste a second on Comey.
catclub
@Baud:
 
Porque no los dos?
WaterGirl
@RevRick: Agree!
I think it’s more fruitful to contribute to the zeitgeist of the internet with “unacceptable, travesty, weaponization of government, etc” as opposed to “Comey is a piece of shit”.
Which, of course, he is.
Sometimes I think the internet is a bit like “the wave” at sporting events, and what we put out there has a ripple effect. I was just thinking it would be good if wrong wrong wrong is what breaks through as opposed to talking about Comey in particular.
Maybe I’m right and maybe I’m wrong, but that’s where I’m coming from.
WaterGirl
@Captain C: Yeah. We have to scare the lawyers by letting them know that even if T has immunity, the rest of them don’t. Let them be afraid of the legal consequences they will face because of their role in things.
The excuse of just being a good german doesn’t cut it.
WaterGirl
@Just Some Fuckhead: Everyone was invited! But you didn’t ask for a zoom link. :-(
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: I assume that last part is your paraphrase?
Since none of these cretins seem to think there’s anything wrong with what they are doing, it’s quite possible that it was a direct quote. Sad times!
WaterGirl
@Fair Economist:
Did Comey help usher fascists into power? YES
Does that have anything to do with why he is being prosecuted? NO
So this isn’t what happens to people who help usher fascists into power. This is what happens to people who piss T. off.
edit: new record, at least recently, 5 comments, talking to myself!
munira
Great photo of Joelle and I agree 100% about Comey.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Shalimar: after reading the indictment, I am unsure what words Mr. Comey said are at issue. That is a humdinger of nonsense right there.
Omnes Omnibus
It is a politically motivated prosecution. It doesn’t matter who the defendant is. It is a BAD thing. FFS this is Judgement at Nuremberg shit. In talking about this, I am not going to discuss Comey after this comment. One of the reasons Comey is first is because a lot of people on our side harbor, shall we say, strong feelings about him. It makes it easier.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Comey is first because the statute of limitations was about to expire on the only thing they could bring against him.
Fair Economist
@WaterGirl: The point is that once in power, fascists prosecute anybody they want. Without Comey’s intervention, Trump wouldn’t be in power. But Trump still goes after him. Same happens to most of Trump’s supporters.
Supporting a fascist into power is like slitting your own throat.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: That too.
HopefullyNotcassandra
The lovely bride reminds us life goes on. This regime’s constant poop flinging reminds us why we must fight.
James Comey is more than one hideous press conference (which conference appeared to have been a response to Giuliani affiliated leakers). He is also the guy in the hospital room with John Ashcroft stopping the continued vacuuming up of everybody’s data. He is also everything else he has done in his life, which I am told does not include dancing.
A cascade of horribles lead us to this moment. That press conference was the icing on the cake. “But her e-mails”, a fascination with strict security protocols our press no longer seems to have, was the flour, sugar and egg in that mudpie we all had to eat in 2016.
What led us here is yesterday What we do today is what counts. This Comey indictment is weak nonsense. Scream it loud and scream it proud.
Then ask when are we going to get to the bottom of Epstein’s sex trafficking? The men and Maxwell, including our president, who filled those three (!!) birthday books think grooming girls and sexually abusing them is funny. Let us teach them there is nothing funny about it!
WaterGirl
@Baud: That may be true, and I’m sure it is if you’re saying it.
But I also think they are smart enough to pick someone Democrats don’t like, which makes it more palatable to some and less horrifying than if he started with Hillary.
The turned the heat way up on the pot quite awhile ago, and they are hoping we won’t notice that the water is boiling RIGHT NOW.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@WaterGirl: such a trial likely would expose the truth of the matter investigated, or at the very least, the obstruction of justice committed by those who opposed the investigation.
We have done all of this before too. Remember the absurd Durham prosecutions. Thank goodness for American jurors!
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Bupalos: you have forgotten John Bolton, who is also facing DOJ fire.
iKropoclast
@HopefullyNotcassandra: Also not sure what Bolton could have done to get on the wrong side of the DOJ.
Now if you told me the Hague were after him…
HopefullyNotcassandra
@lou: exactly. just as the gop did to ACORN way back under President Obama.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@WaterGirl: I propose a constitutional amendment clarifying the president has no immunity, but Congress critters do
exactly as the Constitution actually says right freaking now.
chemiclord
@Miss Bianca: “Mistake” would imply that he didn’t intend to put his finger on the scale.
He’s facing the consequences of his own shitty actions. They aren’t the RIGHT consequences, but consequences nonetheless.
Geminid
@iKropoclast: Bolton has been a persistant critic of Trump ever since Trump fired him. And I don’t think Trump ever liked Bolton to begin with.
They Call Me Noni
@Geminid: He also wrote a book. Wouldn’t testify before the J6 Committee, but wrote a book. Asshole.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
I wonder whether pursuing Comey won’t backfire on the Fanta Menace. It will bring up “Russia, Russia, Russia” again, and doubtless Comey has the receipts on that. Comey could well use that investigation’s findings as his defense: assuming there is enough that he and Mueller found to to satisfy Reasonable Doubt on that score, it could do the maladministration more harm than good.
+1 for the Joelle is amazing in that dress counter.
WaterGirl
@HopefullyNotcassandra: Regardless of the outcome, the process is dangerous.
It intimidates other people who want to stand up.
It costs a fortune for the person being brought up on bogus charges.
It sets a dangerous precedent. At what point will it become the equivalent of “another school shooting today?”
It adds a crazy amount of stress to the life of the person being persecuted and everyone around them.
Paul in KY
@CaseyL: Re-segregation would be blatantly unconstitutional. Even for the whackjobs on the court now, IMO.
iKropoclast
Right. Not a crime.
Paul in KY
@Geminid: In fairness, I don’t think many people at all like Mr. Bolton.
jonas
I’ll join the chorus of those saying “Fuck James Comey” and also that his indictment on these bullshit charges is absolutely outrageous and a huge blow to the rule of law in this country.
IANAL, but my impression is that this whole thing isn’t going to last 5 minutes in contact with an actual courtroom or a federal judge unless it’s that Cannon idiot.
jonas
@Geminid: Bolton’s appointment always had me scratching my head. Trump clearly had no idea who he was or what his agenda was, other than the fact that somehow he pissed off all the libs when he worked in the W administration and that seemed good enough. Why Bolton also took the job is also a mystery, given that Trump clearly had no interest in any of his foreign policy ideas (although now I guess he did finally get around to bombing Iran — a bit — now in his second term).
Frank Wilhoit
Comey was a feather mite on a gull on the tip of the iceberg. The infantilization of the American people would have followed the exact same trajectory irrespective of the outcomes of any election since 1968 (Goldwater was in a position to do some incremental harm, but it would have turned out not to be much). Hillary Clinton, like every Democratic President since LBJ, might have held office, but not power.
Lynn Dee
@WaterGirl: I totally agree.
I’ll add too — and not that this has anything to do with why I agree (that’s just on principle) — but I don’t really hate James Comey, even though I think what he did in the summer/fall of 2016 with the HRC investigation was inexcusable. In his own way, he’s principled to the point of having rigor mortis, which would be okay, I guess (at least for the rest of us), if he hadn’t been just flat out wrong when it came to flapping his gums before the 2016 election. I kinda view him as a flawed character who cannot see, or afford to see, his flaw. Oddly, that rigidity, whatever else it has cost him and the rest of us, may allow him to proceed with some serenity through his trial by Trump’s corrupt DOJ.
Omnes Omnibus
@jonas: Even cases that get dismissed quickly can cost defendants tens of thousands of dollars. They disrupt lives. Potential witnesses will need to consult lawyers to make sure that they don’t get themselves into “legal” trouble. A quick and decisive dismissal doesn’t mean that little to no harm happens to the individuals involved.
beckya57
Totally agree, I’ve been concerned about this too. I also suspect this is aimed at his daughter as well as him.
Tehanu
@rb:
Hear, hear.
Geminid
@jonas: I think Bolton helped Pompeo talk Trump into killing IRGC leader Solomeini, at a Baghdad airport in early 2020. That strike was out of character for Trump, who’d been very cautious with the Iranians until then.
Odie Hugh Manatee
Post #1 made me smile and that’s just fine with me! Happiness is contagious. :)
As far as Comey, for me it’s like Charlie and his very bad day. I don’t think they deserve it but karma and all that…
I hope Comey is able to beat this BS but I’m glad that he got sucked into the machinations of the monster he created. Maybe he will come out of it a changed man.
Probably not, though.
Finally, back to post #1: You look beautiful, Joelle. Much happiness to you both!
patrick II
Obama is his ultimate goal. Trump usually starts small to corrupt, find out what works, set precedents, and then work his way up. Trump is still pissed at Obama over the Correspondent’s dinner. Not to mention the Russian connection investigation before the 2016 elections.
Not to mention that Obama is his biggest political danger. If the Republicans in Congress change the law to allow Trump to run again, Obama should be able to run also, although I imagine reluctantly. Currently, I would guess that Obama is considered the most formidable opponent.
Paul in KY
@Geminid: Think you are correct about that.