Here's a recap of Trump's week:
– Spewed false and dangerous claims about Tylenol and childhood vaccines
– Announced new tariffs that will make furniture and home construction more expensive
– Directed the Justice Department to indict James Comey
How does any of this help you?— James E. Clyburn (@repjamesclyburn.bsky.social) September 27, 2025 at 9:45 AM
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Democrats want to sit down to prevent a shutdown & protect your health care.
Trump and Republicans are cancelling meetings, throwing tantrums, & forcing a shutdown.
Why are they so hell-bent on making sure your health care premiums double next year?— Senator Patty Murray (@murray.senate.gov) September 26, 2025 at 7:33 PM
Assuming Don TACO doesn’t chicken out again… Per Politico, “Trump to meet with top congressional leaders Monday on shutdown”:
The top congressional leaders of both parties will meet Monday afternoon with President Donald Trump — less than 48 hours before a possible government shutdown — according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the plans ahead of a public announcement.
The meeting with Speaker Mike Johnson , Senate Majority Leader John Thune , Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is set to take place less than a week after Trump abruptly canceled a previously scheduled meeting with Schumer and Jeffries.
The new sitdown was set after Thune and Schumer spoke for the first time in weeks about the spending standoff, according to two other people granted anonymity to describe a private conversation…
Democrats are pressing for an extension of health insurance subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year, among other concessions. Trump and Republicans will press Senate Democrats to allow a House-approved seven-week stopgap pass and punt any larger negotiation for later. All Democratic senators except Pennsylvania’s John Fetterman voted to block the continuing resolution earlier this month…
The meeting, which was first reported by Punchbowl News, is currently slated for 2 p.m. Monday. Senate Republicans are expected to put the House-passed measure up for a second vote Tuesday just hours before the midnight shutdown deadline.
Johnson will hold a call with House Republicans Monday at 11:15 a.m., according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the plans. The House is scheduled to be recess over the coming days, and GOP leaders have been discussing continuing the recess through the week of Oct. 7.
House GOP leaders are insistent that they won’t strike a deal with Democrats on health care policy, including an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies that expire at the end of the year. Two senior GOP aides said Johnson and Trump are limited in what they can do because of a brewing fight among Republicans over abortion coverage related to the ACA subsidies and the cost of an extension.
Nice of him to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR that Trump & the Republican Majority will own a shutdown, period.
— Charles Gaba (@charlesgaba.com) September 28, 2025 at 9:16 AM
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I think the state of play here is that a short term clean CR is the only thing the House Rs are capable of jamming Senate Dems with
— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) September 28, 2025 at 9:18 AM
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Crunch time: Democrats ready for shutdown standoff over Republican health cuts
— #TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) September 28, 2025 at 9:20 AM
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The GOP's whole political gambit in this shutdown depends on the American public feeling pain—and blaming somebody else for it.
Read @citizencohn.bsky.social's latest in The Breakdown— The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) September 28, 2025 at 12:01 PM
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Planes still fly. Social Security checks still arrive. The real shutdown is trust in our politics. Here’s my first-hand look at what a government shutdown is—and isn’t.
open.substack.com/pub/adamkinz…— Adam Kinzinger (@adamkinzinger.substack.com) September 26, 2025 at 3:06 PM
By the way if Trump sabotages his own govt during a shutdown well, that’s his choice and he owns it.
— Adam Kinzinger (@adamkinzinger.substack.com) September 27, 2025 at 11:54 AM
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Really need the power users of this website to accept that what we want has very little bearing on what will happen, & prepare ourselves to help Democrats make the best of the consequences, rather than providing theater criticism for how we get there
— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 5:23 PM
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Remember: Sharing is caring!
Never forget….
He’s to blame when the shutdown happens.— stornoway-cove.bsky.social (@stornoway-cove.bsky.social) September 27, 2025 at 5:15 PM
Jeffro
I’m sensing a “yell at Zelenskyy for the cameras” vibe from trump & Co…fingers crossed that our side yells back and walks out if that’s the case.
Oh and good morning, peeps!
Baud
Good luck with that. We’re all Statler and Waldorf now.
Shalimar
Thune and Johnson are there to make sure they are the last people Trump talks to before the press conference.
Jeffro
speaking of shutdowns and the evil geniuses that create them: The Man Behind Trump’s Push for an All-Powerful Presidency (Russ Vought)
(especially THIS “president”)
more of this, snooze media – Americans need to get much more familiar with the banality of evil that is the essence of trump’s goon corps. And there’s no one goon-ier than Russ Vought
(sorry I’m out of gift links!)
MagdaInBlack
“TAPPER: Just to be clear, there’s not gonna be any negotiation at this meeting? This is just gonna be you, Thune, and Trump telling Jeffries and Schumer ‘we’re not giving you anything’? MIKE JOHNSON: I’m telling you where the president’s head is”
Trust me, Mikey, we know where his head is. We know where yours is too.
Professor Bigfoot
Good morning all— and I’ve been wishing terminal hemorrhoids for every American* castigating Schumer and Jeffries when Americans* put them completely out of power.
I am fucking sick of them.
But good morning anyway.
Baud
@Professor Bigfoot:
Good morning.
Princess
@Jeffro: This is why the SCOTUS decision on tariffs is so key. If the president can raise revenue on his own from tariffs, he doesn’t need Congress for anything. No president will give that power back. Effectively you have a dictatorship by the president. Does the party holding the presidency change? I don’t see why it would. And eventually you don’t need parties except for distributing the goodies.
Princess
In other news — yay, Moldova!
Baud
@Princess:
I like countries that stand up to Russia.
Baud
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: Of course, you know that’s the fault of the Democrats, too, right? //
Geminid
This morning’s Politico Playbook has plenty of material previewing today’s White House budget meeting,and the prospective government shutdown.
They also answered a question I had: would Trump’s meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu be before or after?
It will be before. Trump is scheduled to greet Netanyahu at 11am, with bilateral discussions following; then, a “working lunch” followed by a joint press conference at 1:15pm.
Baud
@Geminid:
He’s going to be exhausted for his meeting with Schumer and Jeffries.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Geminid
@Princess: Yes, yay Moldova!
From Guy Elster:
Elster reported that President Samtu’s Party of Action and Solidarity won 49.5 percent of the vote, while the pro-Russion bloc won 24.5 percent. Three smaller parties cleared the electoral threshold, two of which favor closer ties to the EU.
hueyplong
Looks like a greater percentage of Moldovans than Americans recognize an existential threat. We’ll see if we’re any better at it in 2026.
Baud
@hueyplong:
Whatever happens next year, I doubt that Russian threat will be a major factor.
Geminid
@Baud: Who knows? Trump could be on an emotional high, with uncertain effect on the budget meeting. I have hunch though, that Trump’s role in that meeting is already scripted: he, Thune and Johnson will present a united front and insist on passage of a “clean” Continuing Resolution.
Betty
@MagdaInBlack: I don’t think anyone knows where Trump’s head is at any given moment other than immigrants are bad and tariffs are good. Everything else is up for grabs. Oh, I should add gold is good too. He is not well.
Geminid
@Baud: The Gaza news might overshadow the news from the other meeting, at least until tomorrow when we get into the the Shutdown Countdown.
JoyceH
@Geminid: but both Thune and Johnson command majorities in their house. They shouldn’t need minority party votes to pass anything. Sounds like a Republican problem to me.
Geminid
@JoyceH: Thune needs a super-majority of 60 on a cloture vote in order to get to a vote on the CR. So in effect, he cannot pass this bill without help from Democrats.
Baud
@JoyceH:
Dems are fighting for health care. So this is a good test to see whether people will actually support standing up to Trump or whether that all that is just talk.
Baud
@Baud:
That all that = all that
hueyplong
@Baud: The existential threat doesn’t have to be Russia.
satby
@Baud: that quote struck me too. “providing theater criticism for how we get there” is the entire career path for way too many of our media. Edit: and a lot of our political operators as well.
lowtechcyclist
@Geminid:
What’s our problem with a ‘clean’ CR? In the past, AIUI, that’s meant continuation of funding at the previous FY levels, so no cuts until the CR runs out. Isn’t that what we want, or is there something I’m missing here?
Baud
@satby:
Video that was taken down in the late night thread.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@lowtechcyclist: Well, Schumer and Jeffries will be making what the GOP considers to be unreasonable demands, such as Trump actually obeying the law.
satby
@Baud: Thanks. I really want some jurisdiction to file charges so we find out how many of these obvious thugs are former J6, Proudboy, or KKK alumni.
lowtechcyclist
@Geminid:
He can kill the filibuster with 50 votes + JD, so he doesn’t really need 60. They changed the filibuster rules to get Gorsuch on SCOTUS, so they can change the filibuster rules to exempt budget votes. Or just get rid of the damned thing entirely.
Whether he wants to or not (he doesn’t) is a different question. It’s completely within his power to pass this thing with 50 votes.
Another Scott
@lowtechcyclist: Jeffries on MSNBC a few days ago:
HTH!
Best wishes,
Scott.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
They just changed the rules to allow them to vote on multiple nominees at once.
satby
@Baud: also, the Benny Hill Yakity Sax version is best!
lowtechcyclist
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:
Not sure how that would be a problem on the GOP side. Trump breaks agreements all the time, so he could agree to start obeying the rules, then break them later on anyway. The Dems, being in the minority in both houses, don’t exactly have any enforcement mechanism, and the media would shrug, just like they have been.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: Oh yeah, Thune can change the Senate rules in order to pass this bill. I don’t think he wants to though, for various reasons. I think he’d rather see the CR fail under existing rules, and then try to lay the onus on the Democrats.
Soprano2
@Baud: I agree with this. They keep saying “stand up to FFOTUS”, so we’ll see if they support this or if they keep sniping from the cheap seats. As we saw with Kimmel last week, if enough people rise up and say “No, we won’t tolerate this” he backs off.
Baud
@satby:
That’s what I linked to earlier that was taken down.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: Hey, I’m not saying that I have a big problem with passing a clean CR. There are plenty of people here who do though.
Baud
@Geminid:
The House 7 week CR pushes off the problem to nearly Thanksgiving. They probably figure they need to see some movement now before they agree to a short term CR. My guess.
lowtechcyclist
@Another Scott:
Ah, the cuts to the tax credits and the Medicare budget. Those were in the Big Bastard Bill, IIRC, and they’re both outside the scope of the bill funding the government for the new FY, so they’d stay in effect under a clean CR, so (if I have this right) Jeffries and Schumer are saying no Dem votes for a spending bill (CR or otherwise) until the tax credits and the Medicare funding that fund people’s health care are reinstated. And good on them.
Again, if the GOP really wants to, Thune & Co. can carve out a filibuster exception with 50 votes + JD, and then pass their spending bill with 50+JD. So they totally have the power to prevent a shutdown on their own budgetary terms. It’s all on them.
Jeffro
right??!?
make Vought (or trumpov himself) go on camera and tell the American people, “It’s perfectly ok for the president to ignore Congress’ role in appropriations and fund – or NOT fund – whatever he wants”
after all, that’s what they believe, right? they should own it, publicly
Geminid
@Baud: Republican strategy could be to kick this can down the road again in November. That would make December 31 the deadline.
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: That man was pedaling like the Devil Himself was behind him.
Which is close enough to the truth.
ETA— the parallels to 1850 are right there. The Supremes have essentially made ICE a “runaway slave patrol,” and anyone who LOOKS brown or Latino can be snatched off the street and sent into slavery.
Jeffro
“Mr. President, according to you and Russ Vought, a future president could refuse to fund ICE entirely, correct?”
“Mr. President, according to you and Russ Vought, a future president could put massive tariffs on parts bound for coal and oil plants, and give the proceeds to solar and wind companies, correct?”
“And in both cases, as long as that future president comes up with a so-called ‘national emergency’, Congress can’t do anything about it, correct?”
“One last thing, Mr. President: which branch of government did the Founders list first in the Constitution?”
satby
@lowtechcyclist: this is the subject of Paul Krugman’s post today, an explainer on what will happen if those cuts go into effect and how he believes the Democrats are doing the right thing.
Another Scott
@Geminid: It seems to me that the strategy is to get enough Democratic votes in the Senate without giving up anything of substance.
Then the Keyboard Komandos swarm Democrats with the usual cries of “feckless”, “all the same”, “won’t fight”, etc., etc. to disillusion our side.
Legislatures depend on compromise and respect for the other side and give and take and keeping agreements to function. If the majority won’t do any of those things, and they haven’t thus far, then there’s no point in Democrats supplying any votes.
Democrats have some leverage in the Senate now. It’s good they are using it. If the MAGAts end up passing something, that won’t be surprising because they have the majority.
Schumer and Jeffries know what they’re doing. They Keyboard Komandos aren’t our friends.
My $0.02. FWIW.
Best wishes,
Scott.
satby
@Professor Bigfoot: Devil/ICE.
Po-tay-to/po-tah-to.
prostratedragon
Nettoyeur
@Baud: Sounds like the US in 1938-41. Then came a,wee surprise.
Professor Bigfoot
@Jeffro: That particularly chaps my hide— these “patriotic” conservatives are HAPPY to burn the Constitution they claim to revere if their pumpkin-faced Führer wants it.
They are unworthy of their patrimony.
mappy!
Taco breaks things. That’s all he does. He wants a shutdown. He’s going to get a shutdown. This is his appeal to the Freedumb Caucus. Thune and Johnson want cover because they know they’ll get blamed. But what it really all comes down to (the long game), The old school Rs want to be able to blame it all on Trump. The Dems, by having the meeting and having Thune and Johnson involved, get to expose all Rs as being complicit. You have to lay a solid foundation to build an offense. Stone by stone. Hopefully…
Professor Bigfoot
I believe you are correct; but the online brigade simply will not give them any sort of “benefit of the doubt.”
David Collier-Brown
redundant
Nettoyeur
@JoyceH: GOP does not have 60 votes in Senate. They need Dems to pass anything. So Trump is threatening wholesale, permanent layoffs.
Deputinize America
@prostratedragon:
The chances, ironically, are really high that Shouhed voted for Trump.
trnc
@Princess:
Of course, SCOTUS seems to be counting on Trump to think that Article I is just a list of friendly suggestions but that Article III is sacrosanct.
Nettoyeur
@David Collier-Brown: True, but huge consequences thereafter. Rgey could also eliminate the need for a budget limit approval. Neither party has dared to do either in the past.
oldgold
I think wisdom at this particular moment dictates that we punt.
Belafon
@Professor Bigfoot:
Same, but I would like to tell Jeffries if he’s not going to endorse Mamdani, he should have shut up about Adams.
Belafon
@lowtechcyclist: Assuming he has the votes on the Republican side.
trnc
@Jeffro:
Word salad response.
Word salad response.
Word salad response.
Ed note: Consider how they treat amendments, regardless of the order.
Another Scott
@Belafon: I can’t quickly find the original, but the last paragraph of Jeffries’ statement on Adams says that he will make a mayoral endorsement in the near future, well before the start of voting.
FWIW.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Belafon
@Soprano2: This would require enough Republican voters. Disney was losing their subscribers, but every liberal who said they would no longer vote for Republicans didn’t vote for them in the first place.
Mo MacArbie
@satby: Dang, I was just getting ready to make the point that Krugman said much better.
So, uh, how ’bout them baseball playoffs?
Jeffro
@trnc: agree on the word salad, I just want the rest of the country to see it
matt
Two Tesla influencers recorded their attempt to drive cross-country from California to Florida using the latest version of the company’s so-called Full Self-Driving technology, without human intervention. They made it only about 60 miles before a collision cut their journey short, according to Electrek.
In 2016, Musk, the billionaire Tesla CEO, famously claimed that a fully autonomous Tesla would be able to make a coast-to-coast drive completely on its own by the end of 2017.
Imagine if we had a functioning SEC.
Shakti
@Geminid:
So Thune (theoretically) needs 6 Democrats to vote for something?
And the overall response from Republicans is fuck off and die?
And then to complain about a shutdown? They didn’t try to change the rules last time because Trump DOGE and Vought are playing games with freezing allocated budget monies and recissions anyways?
What is weird whining from Republicans about Democrats about the shutdown the Republicans clearly want?
brendancalling
@Another Scott: If I never hear the word “bipartisan” again, it will be too soon.
Every single time I see one of those “Bipartisan Infrastructure Act” signs along a highway construction project, steam toots out of my ears like Popeye when he’s angry.
trnc
Yup. If only the reporters who would ask those questions existed and had access.
Geminid
@Geminid: Regarding today’s Trump/Netanyahu meeting: Axios posted an article this morning previewing it. It’s by Barak Ravid and Marc Caputo and titled, “Netanyahu inches closer to Gaza deal under pressure from Trump.”
It’s a decent summary of the situation, but readers might have to do an e-mail sign in to read most of it.
Another Scott
@brendancalling: Remember – we aren’t the audience.
Our representatives have to make things work with the electorate that exists, not the one that we would like to exist.
Hang in there.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Professor Bigfoot
Obviously he’s rong. ;^)
Betty Cracker
@Belafon: Apart from the foot-dragging on Mamdani, I don’t understand why Jeffries issued a statement praising Adams as “authentic” and “courageous” and thanking him for his service. Adams is an authentic crook who courageously sucked up to Trump to avoid accountability and was all about servicing himself and his cronies. What the fuck, man?
Professor Bigfoot
“… make the son of a bitch deny it!” ;^)
prostratedragon
Guardian:
NotMax
Cannot recommend highly enough the address to the U.N. by the Prime Minister of Barbados.
More than merits its own front page placement.
Jeffro
Right? I’d also like a pony, but…
Sadly, what it’ll take is for one or more Dem presidential candidates to get out there asking those questions.
Shakti
@lowtechcyclist:
I wonder why Thune doesn’t want to.
Seems strange. Shouldn’t Congress be making a bigger stink about the Supreme Court letting Trump appropriate funds whenever he fucking feels like it?
Why did Mike Johnson even want to be Speaker of the House anyways, if Trump gets the most powerful parts of his job?
He’s basically Anna Paulina Luna with less rizz.
I’ve lived through the past few months years and I don’t get these people.
Another Scott
@Betty Cracker: One thoughtline I can see is that 47 was obviously attempting to bend the Mayor to his will and offering really big personal benefits if he complied. Supporting the independence of the office of Mayor is important – especially these days.
And if you read Jeffries statement carefully, he’s not praising Adams at all. He’s saying Adams was in office when these things happened, and that Adams has a history of being a cop, etc. It wasn’t praise of him personally, it was praise of public service and the office of the Mayor.
At least that’s the way I read it.
YMMV.
Best wishes,
Scott.
narya
@Professor Bigfoot: I want everyone to start calling these “Kavanaugh stops,” especially the ones where the thugs are smashing people to the ground. Because Kav says they’re fine, and not inconvenient or anything untoward.
ETA: and I see prostratedragon got there first.
lowtechcyclist
@Professor Bigfoot:
This. 100%.
satby
@Mo MacArbie: 😂
Scout211
It’s been almost 24 hours and we haven’t heard the FBI tell us that the church mass shooting yesterday in Michigan was left-leaning, leftist, trans, antifa?
More at the link (web archive version).
Added:
Professor Bigfoot
@NotMax: Thank you, NM— and she is SO right.
satby
Heather Cox Richardson’s newsletter today:
lowtechcyclist
@satby:
Thanks! Krugman, as always, knows his stuff and has a talent for explaining things clearly. Especially now that he’s freed from the FTFNYT’s shackles.
Butter Emails!!!
@Another Scott:
The Democrats’ failure to place themselves as a true opposition party is a significant contributing factor to why our electorate feels by a 2 to 1 margin that Republicans are better for the economy than the Democrats despite the last 4 decades of Republicans tanking the economy and Democrats having to clean up the mess. There are similar numbers on crime, despite blue states having lower crime rates than red states on average. My personal favorite is the edge Republicans have with the Republic on dealing with corruption despite openly shoving cash in their pockets.
Spanky
The jokes, they write themselves.
(Now back up to read comments.)
jonas
@Baud: Right now ranchers are enjoying record high beef prices and making money hand over fist. They’re not going to care. But things will eventually change and once these trade relationships are lost, they’re very hard to rebuild.
zhena gogolia
@Butter Emails!!!:
You think it’s the Democrats’ failure. I think it’s the completely right-centered orientation of the entire media landscape.
lowtechcyclist
@Belafon:
Whether he does or he doesn’t, it’s all on the GOP either way. They had 50 votes for putting RFK Jr, Hegseth, etc. in the Cabinet, so if they can’t come up with 50 votes for this, it damned sure ain’t the Dems’ fault.
ETA: Fixed reply button failure.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
The Overton window is not a guillotine.
Jackie
@Scout211:
Along with the excerpts you added, the truck he drove into the church had two huge American flags brandishing in MAGA style. I ran across one photo showing the truck after it crashed into the church and both flags were clearly visible.
Like you, I’m waiting with bated breath for the FBI’s report.
WTFGhost
Hey, Anne Laurie. You haven’t been missing, so this “thank you” for being you comes out of the blue. That’s my way of doing things.
Today, I was lonely, and I needed a connection, and BJ was here. Thank you. It wouldn’t be here without our Queen of late night understanding and compassion.
Belafon
@Butter Emails!!!:
satby
@Jackie: I don’t think even my cousin, a retired FBI agent and former Trump voter (pre-Jan6), will trust any report produced under Kash Patel’s FBI. We shouldn’t either.
lowtechcyclist
@prostratedragon:
I deeply desire a future where both of them (along with their orange boss) spend the rest of their lives in the equivalent of Spandau Prison.
lowtechcyclist
@Shakti:
Bigger office, nice title on the door?
Betty Cracker
@Another Scott: Here’s the statement, which speaks for itself IMO.
I think shit like this matters because it lends credibility to the “both sides” lie, the idea that both parties are equally corrupt. In fact, despite the occasional corrupt Dem like Eric Adams and Bob Menendez, it is Republicans who are overwhelmingly corrupt, and they’ve never been more openly corrupt than they are right now and have no intention of holding their corrupt leaders accountable because they’re too busy getting in on the grift themselves.
Dems have an opportunity to make that case and differentiate themselves as the anti-corruption party. This sort of thing doesn’t help. I’m not saying it’s the end of the world, but it was a bad move, IMO. No upside. Lots of downside.
Uncle Cosmo
FFS, we know EXACTLY “where his head is” – up close and poisonous with his colonic polyps.
Jackie
@satby: Oh, I agree! My bated breath comment was meant to convey sarcasm ;-)
Patel has his panties twisted into a bunch trying to figure out how to blame Democrats for the attack.
Baud
@Jackie:
He’s also trying to figure out if Mormons believe in Valhalla.
Belafon
@Baud: Or if he wants to meet them there.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Viking Mormons do.
Jackie
@Betty Cracker: Speaking of the NYC mayoral race, FFOTUS is flapping threats, again:
What he didn’t say – while saying: “Vote for my dear friend, who too, enjoys sexually abusing women, Andrew Cuomo!”
zhena gogolia
God, I’m hoping Jeffries endorses Mamdani. Not that I give a f–k, since I don’t live in NYC, but I don’t want to hear all the complaining if he doesn’t.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I hope he does too, but I expect people will still complain
ETA: NYC and NY politics has always been weird. Unfortunately, both of our congressional heads are from there, so it ends up a national problem.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: True.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: I hope he doesn’t. I am not sold on Mamdani.
Scout211
In other news, what is the NFL thinking? Hiring a Spanish speaking pop star from Puerto Rico to headline the Super Bowl halftime show? DEI hire?
Will Trump and his minions have something to say about this? Bad Bunny is an international superstar and is not a Trump fan.
Good on the NFL and Apple Music.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: Well, he’s better than Cuomo or Sliwa, I’d say.
Baud
@Scout211:
Yeah, I saw that. MLB has been rolling over for Trump all year. Hopefully, the NFL can show some courage.
schrodingers_cat
I was today years old when I found out that the Portuguese conducted an inquisition in India. And killed and tortured over 20,000 people. In some ways T2.0 is an heir to “western values” of yore. In the miniscule portion of India over which they ruled.
zhena gogolia
I can’t even read the NYT Sunday Styles section any more. It’s always featuring some MAGA celebrity.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: IDK that. His flippant answers about Muslims in Gujarat was what I found highly problematic. YMMV.
Paraphrasing Mamdani, People are surprised when they find that I am a Gujarati Muslim because they think all Gujarati Muslims in India have been genocided.
Jackie
FFOTUS has spoken again! Let’s make everyday Americans poorer than ever!
prostratedragon
@Jackie:
At least, USA Today is on it, per Joe.My.God. He also has some social media community reports about the shooter and his family.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Like anybody, he could end up a failure, but I don’t think he’s a worse person than Cuomo based on what little I know.of both of them. YMMV.
Jackie
@Scout211:
Bad Bunny! Maybe this announcement will cause FFOTUS to have an aneurysm!
Can he deport Bad Bunny? He and Miller are probably huddled together right this minute…
Old School
@Jackie:
And movies!
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I don’t trust him.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
You don’t have to. No one has an obligation to trust anybody.
Jeffro
hey y’all remember the time that President Obama said the exact same thing during the 2014 race for mayor of Dallas?
no?
rikyrah
@Geminid:
the problem is that the Democrats negotiated in good faith with Senate Republicans last year, only to have everything they negotiated thrown away later.
So, the GOP can’t be trusted.
No Democrat vote for any of this shyt.
Jeffro
@Jeffro: note also that the money comes from him, as president…it’s not the American people’s money or Congress’ money…it’s all Donnie’s money, now.
Butter Emails!!!
@zhena gogolia:
That’s probably the largest component, but Democrats cheering bipartisanship every time they’ve successfully managed to drag the Republicans kicking and screaming into doing something for the American people doesn’t help. It’s probably also counterproductive for Democratic leadership to talk about their friends across the aisle when those “friends” routinely accuse them of being in support of elementary schools cutting of the genitals off children without parental permission.
Scout211
Another sport that Trump is ruining .
European media responds:
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: If he wins he is going to be a liability for Ds in 2026 retaking the House.
satby
@schrodingers_cat: Mandami won the primary. He’s up against a Republican and an independent (sore loser). That ship has sailed.
rikyrah
Candidly Tiff
@tify330
The last two Government shutdowns happened under Trump with Republicans holding a majority in the House and Senate.
January 2018: 3 days
December 2018- January 2019: 35 days
Republicans do not know how to govern yet you keep electing them. Makes no sense.
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tam1MI
@prostratedragon: My first thought when I heard about the shooting was that it was some crazy pants MAGA type getting vengeance for Charlie Kirk.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Maybe. I don’t know. But I can’t hold other voters’ prejudices against Mamdani, just like I don’t care when lefties complain about centrist Dems who win elections.
schrodingers_cat
@satby: Doesn’t change my opinion about him.
Another Scott
@Betty Cracker: I appreciate and understand your point, but I’m not seeing a reason to get upset with Jeffries about this, myself. I continue to think that it is a nuanced statement (and recognize that others may not read it that way).
Looking at the Memeorandum River, I see 8 mentions of Adams and 3 mentions of Jeffries and there doesn’t seem to be an immediately obvious overlap in the headlines. (No time to click on all of them at the moment, unfortunately.)
FWIW.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Baud
@tam1MI:
Mine too.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: No not because of prejudice, but because of the stuff that he will say and do.
Jackie
@Scout211:
I was so ashamed of those Americans when I heard about this. Mcllroy’s wife was hit in her head by a half full bottle of beer thrown at her. Embarrassing. Humiliating.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Sorry, I meant prejudice in the broader sense of being against his ideology, not just his race or religion.
If voters outside of NYC are concerned about how NYC is run, rather than what their own elected reps are doing, then that’s a form of prejudice that NYC voters don’t have to accommodate IMHO.
Baud
@Jackie:
Wow. The organizers need to say something. And the club.
Ruckus
Why are they so hell-bent on making sure your health care premiums double next year?
Ask simple questions – get simple answers.
MONEY.
They likely know they won’t get double but if they ask for say a 50% increase they’d likely get maybe a 20-25% increase. They ask and fight for double they might get a 30-40% increase. Major companies are in business to make MONEY. They do that by providing a service or product. Which is more important to them, PROFIT or the product? Yeah I’d bet you know the correct answer. I say this as a prior specialty manufacturing company owner. We made tools for customers to make products they sold. It is an economic train, getting from a concept to delivering a product in a way that works for the common purchaser. Say fruit juice. Often you can buy it in a 4oz bottle or a quart or half or gallon, etc bottle. The product is the same, the delivery quantity is different. And someone has to make the tools that make the bottles and someone has to make the bottles and someone has to fill them and deliver them to the store to sell them to you. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that most people never see or even realize. And food products have a half life, they go bad if not sold in time, which is a possible cost that the vendor has to suffer, which raises the cost of every product that can become useless. Now in a high population density area the concept of waste is likely to be less because there are more purchasers. (also more sellers) In a low density area the opposite can be true. It is a big circle that most people never actually get the concept of because they aren’t in the business. Insurance is another product that makes money if the price is high enough and the area safe enough. Change either of those and the cost can be astronomical. And while the companies have data to give them a decent idea of the sales to profit ratio, that data can be completely off or the concept of whatever the insurance is for can change from no cost to holy hell cost. It’s a concept that the company hopes will never happen but one they have to account for. Now for the kicker – GREED. That common human bit that changes everything.
jonas
All of which the MSM — as far as I could tell — reported as though it were just a list of things a president does and of course Democrats protested this or that, gridlock and so forth, yada, yada.
WereBear
@Ruckus: And they don’t bring ANYTHING to the table. No added value.
WTFGhost
@Baud: And I’ll add a “good morning” of my own.
rikyrah
Bloomberg Law
@BLaw
At least a third of senior career leaders have left the Justice Department since the start of President Donald Trump’s second term, taking with them centuries of combined expertise, according to a Bloomberg Law analysis.
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WTFGhost
@rikyrah: *YOU* again?
Ah, eff. Good morning.
@Geminid: That’s what a smart, and strong, President would do. By random chance, donny-boy might do it too.
@Betty: anyone who can see Trump’s ass – he shows it often enough! – knows where Trump’s head is
@Geminid: Man, that sucks. I hope he hasn’t been shit-posting Democrats the past year+.
Jackie
jonas
@rikyrah: If this kind of institutional destruction/dismantling had happened during a Democratic administration, the MSM would be in a 24/7 code red meltdown for weeks — like the Afghanistan withdrawal — but since it’s just another Monday under Trump, whaddyagonnado?
Jackie
@Baud:
Well said, Baud, well said.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Fair enough.
Ruckus
@MagdaInBlack:
His head. Somewhere dark and smelly. Which is why he can’t see what’s in front of him. Or behind or to the left. To the right he can see. Sort of. Of course what he sees is not in any way a working reality. His brain, such as it is, doesn’t work that way. IOW it’s difficult to hear (or see) anything when one’s brain is yelling ME, ME, ME……..
iKropoclast
Free rides for working people? Food sold at cost?
What kind of hellscape is this?
Gloria DryGarden
@WTFGhost: good morning!
Jackie
Just another typical FFOTUS supporter…
iKropoclast
No shame in it if you’re not ashamed. It’s the one thing Trump gets right.
Belafon
@Jackie: You mean a Republican got held to a standard they think they have the right to force on other people?
iKropoclast
@Belafon: He held himself to his own standard he’s trying to apply to others, the fool.
stinger
@Princess: I drank a Moldova wine yesterday — white, light, pleasant!
Baud
@Jackie:
I’m glad he’ll have more time to spend with his porn.
geg6
@Another Scott:
Oh please. Let me praise the guy but I’m secretly criticizing him if you squint and tilt our heads is now the excuse for this guy? And months after the primary was decided, I’m going to tease a possible endorsement at some point down the road, maybe, is doing anything other than making him look like an asshole? He’s really not meeting the moment. I want to like the guy since he is one our leaders but damn. He makes it really hard.
Professor Bigfoot
@zhena gogolia: You don’t think they’ll stfu, do you?
They will hound every single thing that man says or does no matter what.
They are stupid, lazy, and profoundly uninformed.
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
Porque no los dos?
Belafon
@Jackie: Which is funny because we still have companies here in Texas making furniture, though he’s probably making the materials so expensive that their prices are going to go up significantly.
iKropoclast
“They” are always up to something. Damn “them,” whoever “they” are.
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: There’s campaigning, and there’s governing.
ZM is obviously a great campaigner (for the particular, somewhat provincial) office he’s running for.
I don’t live there, so if New Yorkers want him, then so be it. Best of luck to all of them.
But I absolutely don’t blame anyone for being sceptical or distrusting of him or most especially distrustful of the online hordes demanding fealty to him.
Jackie
Didn’t FFOTUS release a statement saying the attack on the Michigan church was an attack on Christians?
Is Karoline implying Patel doesn’t consider Mormons Christians?
Another Scott
@geg6:
Maybe compare Jeffries statement on the passing of Gerry Connolly with the statement about Adams in #102 above.
Gerry “relentlessly defended our democracy”.
Adams was “in office”.
There’s a pretty big difference in the levels of praise, it seems to me.
FWIW.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Professor Bigfoot
@iKropoclast: Follow my Bluesky feed. “They” are all TF over it.
Jackie
@Belafon: I assume he’s going after IKEA and the like, who get their furniture from China and other foreign countries.
geg6
@Another Scott:
Nope, sorry. He didn’t have to say anything at all about Adams. He could have just said no comment if asked for one. Sick of excusing these milk toast Dems and needing an Ovaltine secret code to parse that their praise for garbage people is actually some sort of hard hitting criticism. Either say nothing or be fucking honest. This is one of the major problems Dems have with voters. They don’t trust them because they won’t be honest about their foes and won’t forcefully stand up for the ideals they say they espouse. Of course it’s not every Democrat, but too much of the leadership has lost touch with the voters. Hell, I’m as committed a liberal Dem as you’ll ever meet and I don’t trust them. They haven’t given me much reason to. I’m still going to vote for all Democrats I can but I am not inspired much by the so-called leaders, whether in the government or the party. And the criticism people like me get for pointing this out just perpetuates the problem. If we can’t discuss what is wrong with our side and find ways to improve and modernize, are we really on the same side? It doesn’t feel like it sometimes.
Belafon
@Jackie: The funny thing about that is my home town, Rockwall, is getting an IKEA that will open up early next year. This place went for Trump by about 30 points.
Paul in KY
@Jeffro: If it is televised, then for sure that’s what it will be.
Paul in KY
@Baud: I’m pretty sure I have walked across that bridge several times. Got a great laugh!
iKropoclast
@Professor Bigfoot: I try to minimize my social media exposure to basically just here, but sure. How do I find you?
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@geg6:
+1
iKropoclast
Adams is so corrupt he got his first corruption investigation wiped away by Trump, then he gets pegged for whole new corruption.
Another Scott
@geg6:
WARNING – TheHill.com:
FWIW.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Paul in KY
@Spanky: Now tell us where your head is? Though I think I already know…
satby
@schrodingers_cat: your or my opinions don’t really matter here, we’re not voters in NYC. They get to pick.
Paul in KY
@Betty Cracker: Agree that it appears to be a tongue bath of Mr. Adams. I guess he thinks some of his voters will hopefully vote for him? Maybe it’s ‘game acknowledging game’, even if they were opponents at times?
LAC
@Jackie: Seconded. No matter how many ,many ,many times it is brought up.
Aziz, light!
What happens after Trump loses object permanence?
Paul in KY
@schrodingers_cat: Pro Tip: You shouldn’t ‘trust’ any particular politician. Ours or (especially) theirs.
Betty Cracker
@Paul in KY: I think Adams was polling in single digits, and Jeffries hasn’t endorsed any of the other candidates, so it doesn’t appear to be a strategic thing. I have the same question geg6 has at #172 — why say anything at all?
I will say I think Jeffries (this applies to Schumer sometimes as well) doesn’t deserve a lot of the criticism he gets. I’m not one of the folks who pile on him every time he opens his trap.
But yeah, sometimes he’ll do or say something like this, and it makes me want to pour a pint of bourbon into a half-eaten carton of dulce de leche ice cream and call it lunch because damn.
Paul in KY
@Jackie: In fairness, it was intended for Rory.
Paul in KY
@Baud: He’s with it right now. Diddy can sell him some of his lube.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@zhena gogolia: The complaining didn’t cease when Kamala did – it just shifted to them being upset because she didn’t use his name and dared to suggest that there were other races worthy of the same attention.
These people are going to turn on Mamdani in a microsecond the moment he has to actually govern.
Paul in KY
@Professor Bigfoot: He’ll be much much better for NYCers than Cuomo or Sliwa. That is all that matters, IMO.
Paul in KY
@Jackie: My Methodist preacher back in the day did not consider them Christians.
geg6
@Another Scott:
I’ll wait and see. He says a lot of things. Hopefully, he and Schumer have taken their heads out of their asses. But I’m not as sanguine as you are.
Paul in KY
@Another Scott: He still gave him a glowing (IMO) send-off, considering how bad he was as a ‘Democrat’.
Paul in KY
@geg6: What would LBJ or Truman have said about Mr. Adams? They need to channel that.
geg6
@Paul in KY:
For real.
Paul in KY
@Betty Cracker: Maybe he was trying to throw an olive branch to the NYPD, who were probably Adam’s only supporters? Maybe they are personal friends from back in the day?
Makes me cringe too.
Scuffletuffle
@Jackie: Clearly a republican was speaking and set his own pants on fire…
Ishiyama
I’m just going to say something nice about Bernie Sanders. Bernie has been fighting the long war, and “liberal” Democrats had their knives out for him long before 2016. If you weren’t born before 1953, “don’t criticize what you don’t understand”.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Ishiyama: Who cares? He lived long enough to see himself become the villain. He’s played a significant role in bringing about the world I currently live in, and as a Black man, I have to be honest – I know enough about 1953 to know that I don’t want to go back to get whatever perspective you think is necessary to have positive appreciation for him and his actions.
Jackie
@Paul in KY:
A lot of people also believe(d) Catholics are not Christians. They weren’t the Director of the FBI. Or, they kept their beliefs private.
iKropoclast
I had a conversation with a non-denominational Christian who asserted just this only a couple months ago. I learned during my research through this process that non-denominational churches are, themselves, a relatively new phenomenon.
Paul in KY
@Jackie: They (in UMYF Class) taught that Catholics were ‘Christian’. Just not the kind giving them donations, etc.
Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses and a few others were the ones taught as ‘not Christian’.
I know some of the more out-there (for me) Protestant sects teach that, but I just mentioned Mormons since my very mainline Protestant denomination taught that about them.
Paul in KY
@iKropoclast: To me, they are the nutter ‘Christian’ sects trying to rebrand themselves. Very, very fundamentalist (IMO).
Citizen Alan
@Ishiyama: I hate Bernie Sanders more than anyone alive that’s not a card-carrying Republican.