Deputinize America shared this with us in an earlier thread today, and I think it’s definitely front-page worthy.
History may not repeat, but it definitely rhymes.
(Verse 1)
Well, come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
He’s got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in old Iran
So put down your phones and pick up a gun
We’re gonna have a whole lot of fun(Chorus)
And it’s one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn
Next stop is Tehran
And it’s five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
Well, there ain’t no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We’re all gonna die(Verse 2)
Well, come on generals, let’s move fast
Your big chance has come at last
Now you can go out and get those Reds
Wait, it’s the Ayatollahs instead
The only good fundamentalist is one that’s dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we’ve finished the job that we’ve begun(Verse 3)
Well, come on mothers throughout the land
Pack your boys off to the desert sand
Come on fathers, don’t hesitate
Send your sons out before it’s too late
And you can be the first ones on your block
To have your boy come home in a box(Chorus)
And it’s one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn
Next stop is Tehran
And it’s five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
Well, there ain’t no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We’re all gonna die
Open thread.
WaterGirl
I cannot think of a single other human being that I wouldn’t have empathy for upon hearing that they (apparently) have shingles.
*unless we consider Musk and all the members of the regime to be human beings. :-)
Scout211
Speaking of empathy, reposted from downstairs:
CENTCOM on X
Making a death announcement on X? Really CENTCOM? Ugh. I can just feel the warm empathy right there. Maybe they need to learn some emoji that reflects feelings. Or not. Ugh.
Baud
realbtl
Good old Country Joe and the Fish.
piratedan
considering the current source, victim identification (and admittance thereof) is going to take a while, the RW enshittification of the news media means that we have to sort thru new sources for reporting of events.
welcome to the status of being a shithole country. Waiting for the anticipated announcement of a new string of Trump Casino Hotels based at each National Park.
HinTN
As Raven pointed out with Here We Go Again, Country Joe and the Fish were about much more that that famous cheer.
This is a nice adaptation although there’s a couple of flaws in the meter from the original. /end quibble
Jeffg166
I’ve seen this movie too many time in my life.
cmorenc
FWIW, the Wall Street reaction to Trump’s Iran War seems suprisingly “meh” on the first trading day since outbreak of hostilities. Our retirement stock portfolio was actually up 2 tenths of a percent today. The daily percentage swings on days when Trump’s tariff tantrums affected the market over the last several months were often on the order of between 5 tenths of a percent to as much as 1.5%. However, the extent of reaction if and when oil prices spike as a result of the Iran war remain to be seen, but the evidence seems to be that (surprise!) Wall Street’s mix of rational and emotional (investor mood) depends on anticipated economic impact as evaluated by financial types, not any sort of big-picture moral or national strategic factors.
bbleh
MEANwhile, WaPo informs us that NOW the Mission Objective is “to take out Iran’s ability to threaten American personnel and allies across the Middle East.”
That certainly seems well-defined! Especially when it comes to a country as small, thinly populated, and industrially undeveloped as Iran, especially one that’s been involved in wars both foreign and domestic pretty damn often recently.
[sigh] Wonder how long THIS one is going to last. I guess ambiguity gives it staying power AND deniability, so maybe a while. Or maybe just another cycle or two. (The others certainly haven’t lasted very long…
@cmorenc: fwiw, such CW as I’ve seen is that The Wisdom Of The Market (blessed be its name) is that we’re gonna have a TACO in fairly short order, ie before any real oil-price effects start to bite. He’ll “take an off-ramp” or “declare victory and leave.”
As observed elsewhere, the problem with “anticipated economic impact” is that, while economic facts usually take time to change, anticipations can change suddenly and like a stampede. And then …
Deputinize America
Just getting way ahead of the absurdity of what I’ll call the McNamara curve when you’re sending young people off to immiserate, act as killers and to die off in a genuinely stupid and inadvisable conflict of choice.
Savage mockery and asymmetric conflict are about our only available weapons anymore. This is the only peaceful bit, and I always felt like Country Joe stung the assholes more than most.
Carlo Graziani
I do think that there has been, in the past, a shared consensus among members of the US military that they serve an honorable purpose framed by the US national interest, debatably but rationally construed.
Which consensus I expect is being shattered right now. It started months ago with the seed of “don’t give up the ship,” but it seems likely to me that for many in the service “WTF are we even doing this for” is an easier and more tangible threshold to find than the moral conundra posed by recognizing an illegal order when it comes at them.
TL;DR: Trump is probably alienating more people in unexpected places, than is reflected by his fecally-bad in polls.
Scout211
@bbleh:
It’s a mystery why those American personnel and allies are now being threatened with attacks by Iran. 🤔
Deputinize America
@cmorenc:
Decent burger was nearly $10 a pound, and the bouillon cubes I usually buy weren’t available.
Also, the lettuce looked fairly picked over.
Its starting.
trollhattan
@realbtl:
Bary The Fish Melton went on to have a terrific life as a political activist and public defender in Mendocino then Yolo counties. Still performs too.
PD friends know him but I’ve never had the pleasure to meet the man.
trollhattan
Whiskey Pete will probably fine her for breaking the plane, but meet one of our Air Force pilots right after being oops, shot down over Kuwait.
x.com/alexplitsas/status/2028515931173826662
trollhattan
@bbleh:
“Our next strike will really be a surprise, believe me.”
cmorenc
@Deputinize America:
By reporting the initial “meh” reaction of Wall Street today, I am not thereby saying that if and when practical economic aftershocks begin affecting ordinary folk, it won’t eventually be reflected negatively by Wall Street and investor types. All I am saying is that it’s suprirising to compare the *immediate* far stronger reactions of Wall Street to Trump’s tariff vicissitudes than the immediate *meh* reaction to the outbreak of Mideast war involving the US., not that it won’t eventually force Wall Street to negatively react as the economic impacts trickle up to the investment class.
Scout211
State Department urges Americans in 14 countries to leave immediately
trollhattan
@Scout211:
“Israel, the West Bank and Gaza”???
Guess I can believe Israel but Gaza? Since when do we have citizens wandering Gaza? I mean, unless they’re dual-citizenship IDF members in which case they’re stuck.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@bbleh:
I’m probably the only one here with a masters degree in that kinda stuff from my days attending as a civilian the USMC Command & Staff College.
I saw that and snorted. If we’d come up with such a vague, open-ended strategic mission statement (or a level-to-three below that, a “Commanders Intent” statement), we would have been asked if we’d been sleeping during the lectures and study group sessions.
That stuff was pounded into us for a solid year.
Okay, if we’re still around in 50 years, that one will be used as an example of a poor one.
HeleninEire
Hi. So I woke up his morning and I did not have a clue what it day it was. Yay retirement.
jackmac
@Deputinize America:
Gas prices started climbing almost immediately, up 20 cents at Costco — my go-to place — on Sunday. On Monday, a different station near my house was at $3.49 for regular — up about 40 cents from late last week.
Baud
@HeleninEire:
Better than not knowing is the not caring.
Scout211
US Military? CIA and other alphabet agencies?
Chetan R Murthy
@Scout211: Palestinian-Americans.
prostratedragon
@jackmac: 6 oz. salmon portions up a dollar over last week; haven’t seen them over $7 maybe ever.
frosty
@HeleninEire: Feels great, doesn’t it? It’s still the weekend!
Baud
@Chetan R Murthy:
Beat me to it.
Scout211
Thanks. Good point.
Carlo Graziani
@cmorenc: According to a lucid analysis by Krugman on his Substack today, there aren’t really many direct channels by which the war can have a negative effect on the economy (and by extension on Wall Street). In particular, any oil supply effect will likely be a nothingburger, because the US economy is far less exposed than in 1980.
He points to two indirect channels, though: one is the massively overcapitalized (compared to earnings) stock market, which carries a risk of instability to any shock. The other is the centrality of Dubai and other Gulf States to global commerce, and the problem created if they get effectively blockaded.
Ten Bears
That will be, along with the original video, tomorrow morning’s “patriotic music to start the broadcast day” post. FCC Chair said play patriotic music to start the day, so I am, everyday
azlib
@WaterGirl:
Shingles is really bad. My spouse had it when she was 20. Absolutely no fun at all. Fortunately, there is a vaccine which is very effective in preventing a recurrence.
lowtechcyclist
@HeleninEire:
Welcome to my world!
And leisurely mornings have to be one of the biggest benefits. Time to start the coffee and drink a cup, feed the cats, settle in over the day’s Wordle and catch up on the overnight threads, without feeling any need to move before you feel like moving…sweet.
After two-plus years of retirement, there’s no way I could go back to work. All the habits are broken. :-)
WaterGirl
@HinTN: Oh, man, remind me never to ask you if some dress makes my butt look too big! :-)
Warblewarble
@Scout211: Israel has closed the Raffah Crossing yet again.
lowtechcyclist
@jackmac:
That’s what I’m used to seeing, but I filled up on Sunday morning at the local station and the price of regular was down by a few cents from late last week. Which was good, because I was down to my last gallon in the tank, so I filled up cheerfully.
I imagine that will change in a day or two, if it hasn’t already.
WaterGirl
@Scout211:
should be
fucking incompetents..
WaterGirl
@azlib: My Dad got shingles on his face, and I’m pretty sure that the pain and awfulness sapped his will to live. He died shortly after.
So I know they are really bad. Wondering whether I was being chastised for having no empathy for T and the rest of the TERRIBLES?
Miss Bianca
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: I was wondering where you had gone off to these last few days. Considering your background as A Guy Who Actually Knows About This Stuff, I thought maybe you were binge-drinking somewhere…
Duke of Clay
This brings back some memories. I was 22, had just passed my draft physical, and come home with a list of things to bring with me when I was called up. A bunch of us had gone to see the Woodstock movie. Reading this brings back the same emotions I felt then.
lowtechcyclist
@WaterGirl:
Given that Marco Rubio is Secretary of State, you surely weren’t expecting competence, I hope.
WaterGirl
@lowtechcyclist: From over hear it seems like you retired about 3 months ago.
Time warp.
WaterGirl
@Duke of Clay: I’m sorry.
Just look at that parking lot
On March 2, 1965, The Sound of Music was released. For the big door prize, anyone want to guess what Trump’s favorite song from that musical might be ?
frosty
I ran across this version of Country Joe’s rag during W’s excursion into the sand. I have no idea who wrote it and I can’t find it again on the internet today. Nevertheless, here’s the AWOL Rag:
Come on Publicans across the land
Toss a pot to Iraqistan
Come on lobbyists – yer fight too
Cough up a son, or a daughter’ll do
Be the first yer side o’ the street
To jack a leg in the grinder meat!
[CHORUS]
And it’s one, two, three
What are we fightin’ for?
Don’t ask me I don’t give a damn
Next stop Eye-raqistan!
And it’s five, six, seven
No! No! Guantanamo Gate!
Now who started this row?
All Hat! No Cow!
Whoopie! We’re all AWOL now!
Come on Exxon `n’ git yer thrill
Lay some pipe and send `er the bill!
Abu grab you, Tex’ state pen
All the same – it’s `murikin!
We’ll sell `er soul
Dilate `er hole
Tank `er up `n’ watch `er roll!
[CHORUS]
Now sorry y’all for the mess we made
It’s how we figger that poker’s played
Keep yer stinkin’ Eye-raqi sand
Don’t you fer’ners understand –
We’ll all be free
‘s `mocracy!
Now drop that RPG!
bbleh
@HeleninEire: lol I am in the habit now of reminding myself first thing I get up that “today is x-day, the y-th of the month,” just to get it in my head. But I frequently forget later anyway.
Warblewarble
@lowtechcyclist: That Marco Rubio who got the votes of all the Democratic senators,you can’t mean that one?
anotherlurker
@WaterGirl: You are correct WG there is no person on earth who deserved Shingles more than the Orange Rapist.
I sheak from experience, having endured 1.5 years of Shingles coming and going. It worked in 3-4 month cycles, starting out as what I thought was acne and growing into full blown lesions all over the left side of my face . They soon spread into my eyes, nostrils and mouth. The sensation was a combo of a severe burning feeling along with death like fatigue and general nasty body aches. At several points in its 3-4 cycles I was sleeping 20 hours/day. It is the sickest I’ve ever been.
If P3do/pres is dealing with Shingles, it couldn’t happen to a more deserving rapist.
Geminid
There may be Palestinian Americans in Gaza. There are quite a few in the West Bank. And there might be other Americans employed by hospitals or NGOs.
Melancholy Jaques
@Warblewarble:
Now, is that helpful?
Warblewarble
@Melancholy Jaques: In what way was voting for that fucker helpful, please do tell.
Rokka
Melton’s next gig:
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10164841927634529&set=a.487590029528
WaterGirl
@anotherlurker: Oh my gosh, that sounds absolutely awful. Sounds like they didn’t figure out it was shingles for quite awhile?
So sorry you went through that. I’ll bet it felt like it would never end.
YY_Sima Qian
@Baud: The Onion has a sad. They are not imaginative enough for this reality.
Albatrossity
This is another classic worth a new listening.
youtube.com/watch?v=V0lFNwlLpd4
hueyplong
@Just look at that parking lot: Even if you didn’t know the song, you’d look at the list and say, “I’ll guess the song with the word ‘Me‘ in the title.
But I guess you’re going with the pedo song?
Gloria DryGarden
@Baud: if oxymorons, and cognitive dissonance were married and had a child this would be it.
yikes.
your post is a real thing? Not from the onion, but an actual event? Golly.
Ten Bears
And there it is, with requisite original Woodstock video …
Just look at that parking lot
@hueyplong: Your the winner!!! Ed McMahon will be dropping by later today with your prize. Congratulations!!!!
PM
@WaterGirl: The shingles vaccine has been out FOR YEARS. There’s really no excuse for him to have shingles.