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Trumpery Open Thread: Iran Does Not Have Nukes

by Anne Laurie|  March 2, 20266:14 pm| 152 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Rofer on Nuclear Issues

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If Trump hadn’t torn up the Iran deal, those 6 American soldiers would still be alive

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— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes.bsky.social) March 2, 2026 at 4:46 PM

Time to say it again!

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— Cheryl Rofer (@cherylrofer.bsky.social) March 1, 2026 at 7:11 PM

Former front-pager Cheryl Rofer, now posting at Lawyers, Guns & Money:

It’s time to say it again: It’s highly doubtful that the Iranians were pursuing a nuclear weapon. And they certainly don’t have any.

Donald Trump says that (one of the purposes/ the purpose) of his attack on Iran is to make sure they never get a nuclear weapon. He has also tried to look reasonable by saying “All they have to do is say they will not build a nuclear weapon.”

Iran has done that second thing already, by ratifying the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. When North Korea decided to build nuclear weapons, they withdrew from the treaty. Iran has threatened to withdraw, but they haven’t. This is a signal of their intention not to build nuclear weapons.

Trump’s insistence seems more like that of a middle-school boy sitting on another, hollering “Say uncle.” Big strong ayatollahs must come to Trump with tears in their eyes and say it.

Iran had a nuclear weapons program up until 2003 and then gave it up. Iran has said that. Western intelligence services have said that…

All along, there have been factions within Iran that wanted a bomb, mainly in the IRGC. But Ayatollah Khamanei has said several times that nuclear weapons are forbidden by Islam, another expression of that statement Donald Trump says he wants.

I have seen reports that the current negotiators, whose expertise is in real estate, not nuclear issues, may have misunderstood Iran’s recent offers and seemed not to know what the IAEA was. It’s a subject for specialists, which is why specialists were included in the 2014-2015 negotiations.

Iran hasn’t been working toward a bomb. They have played a negotiation based on an understanding that a bomb could be one outcome of their work. The subtlety of that produced the JCPOA. It doesn’t work with a regime whose basic mode of operation is that of gangsters.

what in the world

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— Mike Black (@mikeblack114.bsky.social) March 1, 2026 at 7:44 PM

this is also true for 90% of the military's understanding of military affairs tbh

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— thinkingbayonet.bsky.social (@thinkingbayonet.bsky.social) March 1, 2026 at 9:06 PM

Probably not related, but it has been noted today that The World’s Most Dangerous Cranky Grandpa has a new health issue. If the neck rash is shingles, I understand that they are very painful & liable to make victims (more) cranky. How fortunate that Trump has the best medical care available to him!

whoa — this is new. Trump has a significant rash-like injury on his neck today in addition to his disfigured hand
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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) March 2, 2026 at 12:47 PM

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    1. 1.

      Peke Daddy

      March 2, 2026 at 6:21 pm

      It’s because Iran is using their oldest, less capable weapons to soak up interceptors so the newer stuff can do much bigger damage, the hypersonics are for really high value targets.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      March 2, 2026 at 6:21 pm

      He “obliterated” their nuke capability the first time.  So my normie wife asked about this one:

      “So, he’s Doubly Obliterated their nuke capability?  Or is that re-obliterated the obliterated bits?”

      This could be a Monty Python sketch if it weren’t so awful.

      Of course then, as noted in the thread below, when somebody somewhere pointed out to his National (In)Security team about that, they changed the mission statement to “protect ‘Murkins and our allies” there.

      Mendacious idiots.  But hey, Bibi got what he wanted, the first US president to launch major attacks on Iran.  Putin got what he wanted, more US distraction from the ongoing war in Ukraine.  Not that we needed much to distract us from that.  Sigh.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Suzanne

      March 2, 2026 at 6:26 pm

      Cheryl Rofer has been helping me remain sane in recent days. She sees things clearly, which I deeply appreciate. I also didn’t quite grasp how short in supply clarity is.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      bbleh

      March 2, 2026 at 6:27 pm

      I understand that they are very painful & liable to make victims (more) cranky.

      As to the first, I wish him only the best.  (Shingles, I mean.)  And as to the second, I assume that’s in the absence of strong pain medication, which of course makes people (especially elderly ones) who take them … um … oh gawd …  [dives back under bed]

      Reply
    5. 5.

      A Ghost to Most

      March 2, 2026 at 6:30 pm

      Facts? Facts don’t matter to the cult.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Alce _e_ardillo

      March 2, 2026 at 6:31 pm

      @bbleh: May also indicate possible immune compromise.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Parfigliano

      March 2, 2026 at 6:31 pm

      Does late stage tertiary syphilis come with a skin condition?

      Reply
    8. 8.

      KenK

      March 2, 2026 at 6:33 pm

      I’m rooting that some form of sepsis may be involved at some point.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      tECHIDNA

      March 2, 2026 at 6:35 pm

      @Suzanne: Seconded from this lurker of both here and LG&M.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      March 2, 2026 at 6:35 pm

      I honestly don’t know why everybody is so agitated about this.

      After all, the CEO of Venture Global, a shit LNG producer/exporter (natural gas prices rose $12b last year, why?  Massive export market whereby we’re shipping vast quantities overseas) told investors today that the immediate fallout of the war on Iran will mean higher prices, which “are helpful for our spreads, obviously.”

      x.com/pblest/status/2028502860585967680

      So, dead school girls, dead American military, it’s all good as long as Venture Global’s “spreads” are helped.

      The protomolecule on Phoebe can’t hit soon enough.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Librettist

      March 2, 2026 at 6:35 pm

      @Parfigliano:

      Maybe the head of HHS can advise on the preferred homeopathic course of treatment.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      bbleh

      March 2, 2026 at 6:36 pm

      @Alce _e_ardillo: sure, all kinds of skin things, some immune-mediated.  Heck might even be just dry skin exacerbated by chafing, makeup, and irritable scratching (I’ll bet he’s a scratcher).  But I still wish him the best shingles available.  Really, the best, many people are saying.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Tim C.

      March 2, 2026 at 6:37 pm

      @Suzanne: Her and Schnorkles are two must follows.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      mappy!

      March 2, 2026 at 6:39 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: re-obliterate the obliterated bits is sort of like destroying the weapons of mass destruction again.

      There seems to be this recurring theme of again, again, again…

      (pewpew, woosh, woosh, woosh, for the magaphiles.)

      Reply
    15. 15.

      bbleh

      March 2, 2026 at 6:39 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I swear it’s only a few days in and we’ve already got our first oopsie village-massacre.

      For sure, though, this will lead the Iranian people to Rise Up and, uh, welcome us with sweets and flowers!  (Oh, except wait, that’s not the Objective anymore.  Dang!)

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    16. 16.

      lowtechcyclist

      March 2, 2026 at 6:41 pm

      @bbleh:

      And as to the second, I assume that’s in the absence of strong pain medication, which of course makes people (especially elderly ones) who take them … um … oh gawd …  [dives back under bed]

      They gave me Dilaudid for the shingles pain, which in addition to killing the pain in my face (which was miraculous enough), gave me a wonderful feeling of peace and well-being.

      Wouldn’t mind if Trump got a dose of that, it might be a revelation to him that feeling that way was even possible.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Nix Besser

      March 2, 2026 at 6:42 pm

      The Magic Ear is looking mighty pristine.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Archon

      March 2, 2026 at 6:43 pm

      The worst mistake the Iranian regime made was NOT building nuclear weapons.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Suzanne

      March 2, 2026 at 6:45 pm

      I have been dealing with one of my cats having a parasite, and having some Jackson Pollock-esque events….. and that’s still better than this fucken war, instigated by two of the worst people on Earth.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      tECHIDNA

      March 2, 2026 at 6:45 pm

      Also, that, um…wound oughta reignite the conspiracy of “you see? they’re the reptilians from V all along!”

      Not getting out of the boat to check on David Icke.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      bbleh

      March 2, 2026 at 6:49 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: hydromorphone better than heroin it is said.  IIRC it was Elvis’s drug of choice.

      I’d be worried about its effect on his judgment tho, especially given his age.

      They din’t give me nothin‘ good [pout].  But it was only on my sides.

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    22. 22.

      japa21

      March 2, 2026 at 6:50 pm

      FWIW, Mrs. Japa, my personal health expert and private nurse, does not believe it is shingles.  It may represent something deeper under the skin, which happens to be where the carotid artery is.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Warblewarble

      March 2, 2026 at 6:52 pm

      Let me get this straight, two nuclear powers attacked a non nuclearpower during negotiations so that the world will be a safer place?

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Carlo Graziani

      March 2, 2026 at 6:52 pm

      @japa21: Maybe Melania bit him.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 6:54 pm

      @Carlo Graziani:

      She would never get that close to him.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Suzanne

      March 2, 2026 at 6:54 pm

      @Carlo Graziani:

      Maybe Melania bit him. 

      Would you get any part of that morherfucker in your mouth?!?!

      Oh my God. I feel sick.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      MagdaInBlack

      March 2, 2026 at 6:56 pm

      @Warblewarble: Yea, that’s pretty much it.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 6:57 pm

      The House Ethics Committee announced Monday that it is looking into allegations Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) over-billed her congressional office for funds to maintain her home in D.C.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      MagdaInBlack

      March 2, 2026 at 6:58 pm

      @Suzanne: Well, you kind of ruined my appetite as well.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Jeffro

      March 2, 2026 at 6:58 pm

      even the NYT has a story up about the neck rash(!)

      holy cow, life comes at you quickly!!

      (the piece goes on to note all of the ways trumpov’s “doctors” have hidden even the most basic facts about his health over the years…THAT requirement, we don’t have to add into the Constitution via amendment, but it’d sure be a nice norm to get back to!)

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    31. 31.

      MattF

      March 2, 2026 at 6:58 pm

      Welp. If Iran wasn’t looking to build a bomb, they sure are now. So now, Bad Grandpa can go and tour Tehran and exchange love letters with the (remaining) Iranian leaders. After all, that strategy worked so well in North Korea.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      tokyokie

      March 2, 2026 at 7:00 pm

      Stress is a trigger for shingles. So trump is dealing with the stress of the ever-evolving Epstein case by blowing up a lot of brown people. Probably also didn’t get the shingles vaccine based on RFK Jr.’s recommendation. Shingles tend to follow a particular dermatome, that is areas innervated by a particular spinal nerve, and although it looks like for trump shingles follows the C3 dermatome, which includes the pinna of the ear, the pinna is not highly vascularized, so the blisters are less likely to appear there,

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    33. 33.

      Jeffro

      March 2, 2026 at 7:00 pm

      also, neck rash aside, the guy is working on his third or fourth jowl

      I’m LOL-ing because I know he still sees himself at age 30, 35 TOPS in the mirror

      Reply
    34. 34.

      surfk9

      March 2, 2026 at 7:01 pm

      @Carlo Graziani: Maybe Lara Loomer gave him a hickey and it came with a fungus

      Reply
    35. 35.

      piratedan

      March 2, 2026 at 7:02 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: ty for the Expanse shout out….

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Jeffro

      March 2, 2026 at 7:06 pm

      also, since it’s an OT and about trumpery: here’s some serious wealth inequality info, couched as “Jackson Hole is expensive as f***”

      (I mean, it is, but look at these numbers)

      (gift link)

      The Jackson Hole region has long been a refuge for the rich, but an explosion of new affluence has allowed a growing cadre of extraordinarily wealthy people to dominate both the local economy and Wyoming state politics.
      Teton County is not merely the richest county in the country, per capita, by far; it is a window into America’s near future, as the country enters a new gilded age, one in which millionaires are turning into billionaires overnight.

      The richest Americans saw their net worth soar 120 percent between 2017 and 2025, a colossal leap from the 45 percent growth they had seen over the previous nine years.
      The number of U.S. billionaires jumped 50 percent by some estimates between 2017 and 2025, to more than 900 people.
      The minting of dozens of new billionaires occurred in the immediate wake of the 2017 tax cuts championed by Mr. Trump at the beginning of his first term, the nation’s biggest tax overhaul since 1986. The legislation, which slashed personal income taxes and doubled the estate tax exemption, was billed by Mr. Trump as “tax cuts for American families.” But the Times analysis, backed up by a range of new studies, shows that it disproportionately benefited wealthier taxpayers.

      While the rich have been getting richer at a fairly steady pace over the years, the analysis shows that the net worths of those who were already billionaires experienced a pronounced shift after the tax cuts were signed into law, growing by 49 percent over eight years.

      Overall, the top 1 percent now control $55.8 trillion in assets — more than the G.D.P. of the United States and China combined.

      of an estimated $2 trillion in savings that U.S. taxpayers will accrue over a decade as a result of the tax cuts, more than a third — $750 billion — will flow to the richest 1 percent of Americans, according to the Brookings Institution. At the moment, that includes those with assets of $11.1 million or more.

      I’ll stop there.  If you have assets of $11M or more, you are probably able to live on $.5M/year or more without ever touching the principal.

      The piece is really, really good.  Goes on to talk about how the tax cuts for corporations were going to – stop me if you’re heard this one before – trickle down to workers and boost their pay.  Oh my oh me.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Jeffro

      March 2, 2026 at 7:07 pm

      sorry, one more:

       

      The pandemic blew open the socio-economic gaps that emerged during Mr. Trump’s first term. Widespread lockdowns pushed the United States into a short, sharp recession in the spring of 2020. Market prices fell and companies slashed tens of thousands of jobs. While a significant number of people were worried about illness and job insecurity, wealthy Americans used the downturn as an opportunity to buy stocks, real estate and other assets, essentially on sale.
      When the markets recovered, the rich disproportionately reaped the rewards. Federal Reserve data shows that the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans now own about $25.6 trillion worth of stocks and mutual funds, the same amount as the remaining 99 percent of the country. About half the stock owned by the wealthiest Americans — $13.7 trillion worth — is owned by the richest 0.1 percent.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      tECHIDNA

      March 2, 2026 at 7:09 pm

      @MattF: This tells other countries that if you want to make actual land or economic negotiations with the United States, you better nuke up or get with a posse of other countries that have nukes.

      Used to be “lawyer up”, then it was “pay up”, now it’s “nuke up”.

      Thanks “price of eggs” voters!

      @Warblewarble: Yep, pretty much, and see above. Reminds me of the bumper sticker “Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing is wrong?”

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Scout211

      March 2, 2026 at 7:11 pm

       

      WASHINGTON (AP)— The Supreme Court cleared the way Monday for California schools to tell parents if their children identify as transgender without getting the student’s approval, granting an emergency appeal from a conservative legal group.

      The order blocks for now a state law that bans automatic parental notification requirements if students change their pronouns or gender expression at school.

      It comes after religious parents and educators challenged California school policies aimed at preventing schools from outing students to their families. Two sets of Catholic parents represented by the Thomas More Society say it caused schools to mislead them and secretly facilitate the children’s social transition despite their objections.

      California argued that students have the right to privacy about their gender expression, especially if they fear rejection from their families, and school policies are aimed at striking a balance with parents’ rights.

      The high court, though, sided with the parents and reinstated a lower-court order blocking the law and school policies while the case continues to play out.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Viva BrisVegas

      March 2, 2026 at 7:11 pm

      @Archon:

      If Iran was building a nuclear bomb then they were doing it in slow motion.

      Trump has just killed the guy who for 20 years said that nuclear weapons were un-Islamic and we don’t want them.

      The next guy?

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Jackie

      March 2, 2026 at 7:14 pm

      Spain ain’t playing along:

      Spain is refusing to support the U.S. and Israeli military operation against Iran and has distanced itself from the position adopted by France, Germany, and the United Kingdom, which have shown themselves willing to undertake “proportionate defensive action” in response to Tehran’s attacks on the Persian Gulf countries and Cyprus.

      *snip*

      Spain’s refusal to provide military support for the attack on Iran has led the Pentagon to withdraw a dozen KC-135 tanker aircraft deployed at the bases in Morón de la Frontera (Seville) and, to a lesser extent, Rota (Cádiz) to supply fuel in the air to its fighter-bombers, as confirmed by Minister of Defense Margarita Robles.

      english.elpais.com/international/2026-03-02/spain-refuses-to-provide-military-support-for-us-attack-…

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    42. 42.

      Urza

      March 2, 2026 at 7:15 pm

      On Reddit some ‘doctors’ said it looks like treatment for a non malignant melanoma

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 7:18 pm

      @Urza:

      non malignant

       
      Ugh.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      davek319

      March 2, 2026 at 7:23 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Yeah. Sigh, indeed.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Miss Bianca

      March 2, 2026 at 7:23 pm

      Oh, sweet little baby Jesus…literally “Dems in Disarray over Iran” from The Guardian. (Or maybe that was just the aggregator throwing that one out.) *And* they feature a photo of Bernie Sanders as their sample “Dem.”

      See, every time I click on one of their articles and think, “yeah, I do read them sometimes, maybe I should throw them a few bucks”, they do something like this and I go, “Nah, Tony Jay is right – they’re as toolish  as the NYT or WaPo.”

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    46. 46.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 7:24 pm

      @Miss Bianca:

      Who’s in disarray other than Fetterman?

      Reply
    47. 47.

      hueyplong

      March 2, 2026 at 7:24 pm

      I’m dissatisfied with the red neck [pause for emphasis] explanations. I demand discussion of some obscure disease that delivers shingles+ pain as it passes through to the mortality stage.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      bbleh

      March 2, 2026 at 7:27 pm

      @Urza: I was thinking about that one too.  Like sal acid or something — like a wart remover except maybe stronger.

      But I’ll still bet he scratches it.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 7:29 pm

      Kesha is on your good celebrity list.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Miss Bianca

      March 2, 2026 at 7:31 pm

      @Baud: Read it and weep. Let’s see…(doing so, sigh) they cite Cuellar, Tom Suozzi, and Jared Moskowitz, among others, along with Fetterman.

      (Bernie, to his credit, appears to be having none of this shit. Which makes him “an Independent in Array” with…most of the other Democratic delegation.)

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    51. 51.

      SFAW

      March 2, 2026 at 7:33 pm

      @Urza:

      non malignant melanoma

      I dunno, she seems pretty malignant, what with her destroying the Rose Garden etc.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 7:33 pm

      @Miss Bianca:

      LOL. The usual suspects continue to suck. It’s like yet another story about Hillary’s emails. But it’s what people want to hear.

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      March 2, 2026 at 7:33 pm

      That is shingles, almost guarantee it. I had it and was a bad case. Blisters from front to back of my left midsection, band about 3 to 4 inches wide. It took almost two months to clear up most of the way. So fucking painful that I wish it on the people I hate, making me happy to see the orange bastard has them.

      Puts a smile on my face knowing Fat Bastard is in pain. That looks like a good dose of them, too. Also.

      Ubetcha!!! Fuck I am smiling now!

      Reply
    54. 54.

      lowtechcyclist

      March 2, 2026 at 7:35 pm

      @Jeffro: ​

      Overall, the top 1 percent now control $55.8 trillion in assets — more than the G.D.P. of the United States and China combined.

      Does even the entire bottom 99% control that much wealth, I wonder? I’d bet good money that the bottom 90% doesn’t.

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    55. 55.

      Chetan R Murthy

      March 2, 2026 at 7:35 pm

      @Odie Hugh Manatee: covid-19 had one job, it fell down on it.  But shingles, it’s delivering.  Or at least, we can hope.

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    56. 56.

      Currants

      March 2, 2026 at 7:45 pm

      @Suzanne: same! Especially to your last comment. That one is really rattling me.

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    57. 57.

      Ramona

      March 2, 2026 at 7:53 pm

      @Parfigliano: Ooh! Please, please, please!

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    58. 58.

      Archon

      March 2, 2026 at 7:54 pm

      @Viva BrisVegas: Agreed, the idea that even a secular Iran surrounded by Arab, authoritarian Petrostates will not want nuclear weapons is wishful thinking.

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Baud

      March 2, 2026 at 7:58 pm

      Sam Altman in Damage Control Mode as ChatGPT Users Are Mass Cancelling Subscriptions Because OpenAI Is “Training a War Machine”

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    60. 60.

      Professor Bigfoot

      March 2, 2026 at 8:00 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: He’s exactly the kind of guy who would try to exploit the protomolecule and endanger the entire species… but it would be profitable.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      suzanne

      March 2, 2026 at 8:05 pm

      @Baud: I’ve been telling ChatGPT a great deal about my cat’s poop. I hope it synthesizes the knowledge and that Altman feels like his life’s project has been wasted.

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    62. 62.

      dnfree

      March 2, 2026 at 8:13 pm

      @Alce _e_ardillo: Exactly, especially at Trump’s age.  I know people who had shingles at younger ages and recovered well, although slowly.  The elderly people I know who had it were on their way out, but it might also be a slow decline.

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    63. 63.

      sab

      March 2, 2026 at 8:14 pm

      @Professor Bigfoot: OT feelers. Would you cone to a NE Ohio meetup this summer?

      Reply
    64. 64.

      sab

      March 2, 2026 at 8:16 pm

      @Miss Bianca: Tony Jay has warned us for years about The Guardian.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      piratedan

      March 2, 2026 at 8:17 pm

      @Professor Bigfoot: yeah, he’s Burke from Weyland-Yutani writ large.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Professor Bigfoot

      March 2, 2026 at 8:19 pm

      @sab: Almost certainly; and the almost is just because I hate tempting fate. 😁

      Reply
    67. 67.

      Professor Bigfoot

      March 2, 2026 at 8:20 pm

      @piratedan: Totally off topic, but a few months ago I saw a white pickup truck, your basic work-truck: with the Weyland-Yutani logo, complete with “Building Better Worlds.”

      It was gone before I could get my phone out, but it was perfect.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 8:22 pm

      @Jeffro: ​Looking forward to Jake Tapper’s book about this /s

      Reply
    69. 69.

      Geminid

      March 2, 2026 at 8:23 pm

      @Archon: Iran is an industrialized nation of over 90 million people, bounded by mountain ranges and large bodies of water. It could defend itself without nuclear weapons, even if the neighboring states wanted to invade it which they won’t.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 8:23 pm

      @tokyokie: That’s near the perfectly-healed ear that was supposedly shot, so obviously it’s a delayed response. /s again.​

      Reply
    71. 71.

      lowtechcyclist

      March 2, 2026 at 8:24 pm

      @sab:

      Tony Jay has warned us for years about The Guardian.

      I’d still take their coverage over the FTFNYT or the WaPo any day.  When so many of your choices are bad, sometimes you’ve just got to settle for not as bad as the others.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 8:33 pm

      @Urza: ​I saw that post on Reddit and it was confusing. He said it was topical 5FU for basal cell carcinoma. That’s a standard treatment for precancerous or early cancerous lesions (actinic keratosis or early basal cell). Basal cell carcinoma takes a very long time even without treatment to become dangerous, so there’s no urgency, but it’s still cancer and so “malignant.” It could be actinic keratosis, however. But from those I’ve known who have had topical 5FU, the response is pretty concentrated on the part of the skin with the lesion. The central part of the “rash” on Trump is pretty crusted over, however, which is consistent with 5FU.

      And while there was once something called “melanoma” that wasn’t cancer, so “malignant melanoma” was used to distinguish them, that term doesn’t seem to be used anymore, and so there’s not really any such thing as nonmalignant melanoma and topic treatments are useless for that..

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Martin

      March 2, 2026 at 8:34 pm

      A little OT – apparently archaeologists have been excavating a previously unknown cave in South Africa that contains what they believe is the oldest human cave writings. After a few weeks of work they’ve deciphered the ancient glyphs and it’s quite remarkable – it says ‘Iran is 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon’.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 8:34 pm

      @bbleh: ​5FU is a chemotherapy drug mostly used for colorectal cancer (nowadays as an adjuvant to more powerful agents).

      Reply
    75. 75.

      Ksmiami06

      March 2, 2026 at 8:36 pm

      @Eyeroller: sigh.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Martin

      March 2, 2026 at 8:37 pm

      As someone who has had shingles 3 times – if that’s shingles, he’s not wearing that shirt and casually walking around unless he’s been given a hippos dose of Percocet.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      PSQ

      March 2, 2026 at 8:38 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

      Sounds like the Double Secret Probation Edition DVD release of Animal House.  

       

      “Remain Calm – All is Well!”

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Chetan R Murthy

      March 2, 2026 at 8:39 pm

      @Martin: unless he’s been given a hippos dose of Percocet.

      way to harsh a mellow, dude /s

      Reply
    79. 79.

      wjca

      March 2, 2026 at 8:39 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: “So, he’s Doubly Obliterated their nuke capability?  Or is that re-obliterated the obliterated bits?”

      You have to keep in mind that, for these guys it’s all theater.  And, in the theater, you run exactly the same show, using exactly the same lines, over and over and over.

      So, they aren’t re-obliterating the obliterated bits; that’s something that would only happen in the real world.  They’re just performing the obliteration scene again.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      kalakal

      March 2, 2026 at 8:40 pm

      @Parfigliano: Yes, and it can look very like those pics.

      I’ve had Shingles ( fortunately I’d already had the Shingrox jabs) and it is very uncomfortable.

      Tertiary Syphilis is another game altogether – it used to be in the text books as ‘Terminal Paralysis of the Insane’. Have to say I’ve wondered if he has this for years.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 8:41 pm

      @Odie Hugh Manatee: I took my Shingrix as soon as I was eligible and it was the worst vaccine in terms of side effects I’ve ever had, especially the second dose, but from what I heard it was nothing compared to shingles.  If Trump didn’t get Shingrix it wasn’t because of RKFJr, because Trump would have been old enough years ago.  He could possibly have gotten the earlier one that is less effective but who knows.

      Some images of shingles on Google certainly are consistent with the photo.  And as I mentioned, when I’ve seen 5FU treatments the crusting is pretty much right on the lesion; it doesn’t spread out.

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Martin

      March 2, 2026 at 8:41 pm

      @kalakal: Probably not. The insane part checks out, but the terminal part keeps eluding us.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Martin

      March 2, 2026 at 8:43 pm

      @Eyeroller: I got my first shingrix and a tetanus shot in the same arm the same day. Let me tell you, I regretted the fuck out of that decision.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      sab

      March 2, 2026 at 8:43 pm

      One thing I have learned as an American citizen is that we have very few reporters in DC. We only have courtiers.

      In the boodockes we do have  reporters, kind of like the rare birds the Audoban Society wants us to out look for.

      Some reporters where I live are excellent. Not idealogically tied to me. Just diligent and honest.

      Look towards your local paper. If it isn’t just trash there will be real serious reporters there, doing the work for crappy pay because the work is why they even bother to report.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 8:46 pm

      OK. So. I’ve had a fair amount to drink (footnote 1: reasons), but even, I can  break this down:

      1. Trump become president in 2025

      1b. Trump tears up agreement.

      2. Trump does not have time machine.

      3. Three years prior to Trump taking action, action, (occording to Trump) occurs.

      4. THAT’S NOT HOW SPACETIME WORKS, PSYCHOPATHIC ASSHOLE.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Miss Bianca

      March 2, 2026 at 8:47 pm

      @Baud: Ah ha ha ha. Gotta find some enjoyment *somewhere* in the Ongoing Horror.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 8:48 pm

      @Martin: I approve of this message.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      PSQ

      March 2, 2026 at 8:49 pm

      It just occured to me that the orange guy might be jealous of Iran.  Isn’t their Revolutionary Guard just their version of his private ICE army.

      Maybe he should send in ICE to take care of them.  I’m sure those wannabes will fight for Iranian citizen’s rights.  (Yes, sarcasm, but sad).

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Aziz, light!

      March 2, 2026 at 8:49 pm

      My first thought about trump’s rash is that Vance got tired of waiting and tried to hang him.

      Reply
    90. 90.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 8:53 pm

      Let’s do this again in case I was too clever drunk for my own good…

      Trump cannot take an action a year ago that prevents something from happening two years prior to him taking that action.

      The fact that he has asserted such is incontrivertable PROOF he does not have the cognition to qualify for the presidency.

      Reply
    91. 91.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 8:54 pm

      If the war is really about the Iranian nuclear program… (click through the link to X post by BBC journalist for the satellite images):

      Shayan Sardarizadeh @Shayan86

      New high-resolution satellite images captured by @vantortech today show damage to Iran’s Natanz nuclear enrichment facility. At least two above ground structures near the underground enrichment hall appear to have sustained severe damage. Before: 1 March After: 2 March

      Expert commentary:

      (((James Acton))) @james_acton32

      Looks like we have our first attack on a nuclear site—Natanz. I don’t want to claim it was entirely symbolic, but given the site had been destroyed in July, I doubt this strike will have a significant effect on Iran’s nuclear program.

      The nuclear program is no longer about the declared sites; it’s about deep underground and undeclared sites.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Marc

      March 2, 2026 at 8:55 pm

      @Eyeroller: 5FU chemo was a really nasty experience for me 30 years ago, along with a horrid one for my future wife, who cleaned up the messes those times when I couldn’t. I’m shocked that it’s still in use.

      Reply
    93. 93.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 8:57 pm

      Also, Trump calling this war “major military operations” is further evidence of his affinity to Putin. & the entire US natsec establishment is just going along w/ it.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      Rand Careaga

      March 2, 2026 at 8:59 pm

      I’d had the old, unimproved version of the shingles jab some years back, which did not serve to protect me from the onset in 2024 of a painful case, running along a band between my eyebrow and my right occipital lobe, a week after my wife died (yeah, stress). You know how they say “I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy?” Nah, not me: I’m of a sometimes vindictive character, and can think of half a dozen people I’ve known whose affliction would fill me with quiet satisfaction. If shingles is indeed what the Orange Man is suffering (and the photo certainly looks like my case), I hope it’s hurting him like hell.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 8:59 pm

      Rutte is going to be Rutte:

      Aaron Rupar @atrupar

      NATO Secretary Mark Rutte: “The commander in chief, the leader of the free world, President Donald J Trump — I really commend what is happening here.”

      That is quite a bit further than the supine statements made by the UK, France, Germany, Canada & Australia wrt to the “MMO”.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 8:59 pm

      @different-church-lady: Unless he means he tore it up during his first administration.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 9:00 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian: Rutte: “I really really really need to somehow fit this into a sane framework…”

      Reply
    98. 98.

      Archon

      March 2, 2026 at 9:01 pm

      @Geminid: Well based on that we don’t need nukes either.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 9:03 pm

      Trump has a significant rash-like injury on his neck

      HE IS ROTTING FROM THE HEAD DOWN!

      Reply
    100. 100.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 9:05 pm

      I’m beginning to think “Biden is senile” just MIGHT HAVE BEEN enemy operations instead of an accurate analysis.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:06 pm

      Trump being puppeteered by Bibi may lose some MAGA hearts & minds (at least the genteel isolations & the committed anti-Semites):

      Rapid Response 47 @RapidResponse47

      @SecRubio: “The president made the very wise decision—we knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.”

      Ben Rhodes @brhodes

      Donald Trump is so weak that he couldn’t tell Bibi Netanyahu no, so now we are at war.

      jasper Nathaniel @infinite_jaz

      So the logic is: we knew Israel was going to attack Iran, we knew Iran would retaliate against the US because of it—so instead of stopping Israel from attacking Iran, we attacked Iran first to prevent the retaliation we knew Israel’s attack would trigger. Incredible.

      & lo & behold, Iran is retaliating against US interests across the region, & escalating further to the GCC states.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      WaterGirl

      March 2, 2026 at 9:09 pm

      @Martin: hahaha

      Reply
    103. 103.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:15 pm

      @Geminid: Israel has nukes, that might be reason enough for any new Iranian regime to get some. Especially now that there is clearly no deterrent against Israel repeatedly trying to “mow the lawn” from the air.

      Bibi’s Israel sees itself as the dominant military hegemon in the region, free to bomb & assassinate whomever & wherever as it pleases. In this, I do not see much disagreement from the Israeli opposition, either. At least politicians such as Yair Lepid, as opposed to some of the former senior leaders in the security apparatus.

      After this war, the GCC states will have to seriously reconsider the regional security architecture. There have already been tentative attempts before, as evidenced by the KSA-Pakistan defense pact that might extent to Türkiye, even the attempted GCC-Iran rapprochement that has been overturned by events. They will have to be more radical now.

      Qatar has the dubious distinction of being the US ally that has been bombed by both Israel & Iran.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 2, 2026 at 9:24 pm

      Way back in the mid 1970’s, when I was in Boston, MIT had (and I presume still has) a Department of Nuclear Engineering – a regular, separate discipline, like Electrical, Mechanical, Chemical, Civil, etc. In contrast with the others, however, it did not offer undergraduate degrees, only MS and PhD studies. The kind of odd thing about the department at that time is that a very large proportion of its grad students were Iranians. This was before the Islamic revolution. I’ve occasionally wondered what happened to those guys.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 9:24 pm

      @Marc: My mother had colon cancer 30 years ago and 5FU was the only option.  And it does have side effects, but nowadays it is only used along with oxaliplatin for first-line treatment (folfox) or irinotecan for second-line (forfiri), because it’s not all that effective on its own.  I’m glad to hear it worked for you.​

      Edit: as a treatment for basal cell carcinoma, it’s a cream applied topically.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      Nix Besser

      March 2, 2026 at 9:26 pm

      @Eyeroller: Thanks. That’s what I was talking about, not very clearly, in an earlier comment. There is no scar tissue on that ear that was supposedly hit by a bullet/glass/something/blood capsule.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:26 pm

      On a side note, USG had announced a few days before the start of this “MMO” that Trump is due for a state visit to Beijing in the 1st week of Apr.

      There has been some suggestion that the trip may be cancelled. Certainly there have been reporting that the preparation has been deeply problematic, w/ the CPC regime wanting the meticulous & methodical & zero surprises, while the Trump Admin. the complete opposite. While the PRC doesn’t really care about Iran or the Islamist regime, the PRC MFA has vocally condemned the Israeli-US war. To then give Trump the red carpet treatment & all the pageantry (which was the plan to flatter the latter’s ego), especially if the “MMO” is still ongoing, would be bad optics across the Global South.

      I would still be surprised if the PRC cancels or postpones the visit, but might downgrade pomp & circumstance a bit. Trump seems desperate enough for face time w/ Xi that the PRC might try to wring more concessions for allowing the state visit to proceed.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      Jeffro

      March 2, 2026 at 9:28 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: all I know is it’s f***ing nuts

      Reply
    109. 109.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 9:31 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian: I don’t know what they are thinking but it is entirely possible to wish for a regime change in Iran while not believing that a bombing campaign will effect anything remotely resembling what would be a decent outcome for the Iranian people.  But I guess Europe is still supine to the US.

      Reply
    110. 110.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:35 pm

      @Eyeroller: Finessing that nuance is not that challenging for experienced diplomats supported by professional diplomats. Rutte is the current NATO Secretary General & former Dutch PM, he ought be an experienced diplomat. Then again, Rutte’s consistent strategy for “managing” Trump has been persistent brown nosing, all to little apparent avail.

      The statements by the European & Australian governments also seem far out of line w/ popular opinion.

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      March 2, 2026 at 9:38 pm

      @Eyeroller:

      COVID hit and I quit going anywhere after almost being killed by it in the early days of 2020. I had just got my latest tetanus shot a few months before 2019 ended and intended to go back for the Shingrix. Oh well, shit happened and fuck was it a miserable time. Luckily my residual effects are only slightly sensitive nerve endings to the left side of my belly button and in one area of my left back. I get a slightly itchy/tingly feeling once in a while to remind me of the fun.

      Doc said mine was nasty and it was probably triggered by an old back injury that flared up the day it hit. Intense spine pain between two vertebrae just below the shoulders and within hours red splotches appeared on my left side.

      I hope the fucker has shingles because that looks like mine did just as it put the pedal to the metal and blistered like holy fuck. If so he is going to be miserable, get even less sleep and the residual nerve shit will drive a person like him nuts.

      I’m still smiling about the great possibility here… :)

      Reply
    112. 112.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:39 pm

      Marker Warner has been among the most hawkish Dems & ones most deferential to the natsec state:

      Aaron Rupar @atrupar

      Warner: “There was no imminent threat to the United States by the Iranians. There was a threat to Israel. If we equate a threat to Israel as the equivalent of an imminent threat to the US, then we are in uncharted territory.”

      This comment is also the 1st I’ve heard of an imminent Iranian threat to Israel.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      NotoriousJRT

      March 2, 2026 at 9:42 pm

      @Baud: in a battle of malignancies, Trump trumps.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:42 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian: The GCC really needs to reconsider how their security is to be attained (link to the Middle East Eye article below):

      US ‘stonewalling’ requests by Gulf states to replenish interceptors, sources say
      One Gulf state sought reassurances on the US commitment to its air defence when discussing access to bases, source says

      By Sean Mathews
      Published date: 2 March 2026 19:07 GMT | Last update: 7 hours 32 mins ago

      The US is “stonewalling” requests by some Gulf states to replenish their air defence interceptors as pressure mounts on them to join the US and Israel in their war on Iran, one western official and one former US official familiar with the matter told Middle East Eye.

      At least one Gulf state that has come under attack from Iran asked US officials about replenishing supplies that have been depleted since the joint US-Israeli attack on Iran, but was brushed off, the former US official familiar with the discussions said.

      In a separate case, another Gulf state responded to US requests to use air bases in their country with enquiries about the US’s commitment to their air defence systems, a western official familiar with the matter told MEE.

      But the former US official familiar with conversations in the administration told MEE that Gulf states would be left wanting if they expect new supplies of interceptors

      “Whatever munitions were produced in the last couple of months, we have shot several years’ worth of production in the last few days,” the former official said.

      …

      Also, I guess this “MMO” (or at least this round) ends when the US & Israel run low on interceptors for themselves.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      Jay

      March 2, 2026 at 9:43 pm

      @PSQ:

      The IRGC is their own political power faction, who’s aims and goals are often enough, not consistent with Iran’s.

      They are a parallel Army, Navy, Airforce, Intelligence Agency and Police Force, to the Iranian Army, Navy, Airforce, Intelligence Agency and Police Forces.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      Jay

      March 2, 2026 at 9:47 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian:

      Qatar has the dubious distinction of being the US ally that has been bombed by both Israel & Iran.

      And attacked by Sawdi Arabia.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 9:56 pm

      @Jay: I forgot about that!

      Reply
    118. 118.

      schrodingers_cat

      March 2, 2026 at 10:02 pm

      @different-church-lady: Unfortunately for us so many elected Ds bought into it.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 10:03 pm

      An account of the “decision making” processes that led to the illegal “MMO” (gift link to NYT article below):

      How Trump Decided to Go to War
      President Trump’s embrace of military action in Iran was spurred by an Israeli leader determined to end diplomatic negotiations. Few of the president’s advisers voiced opposition.
      By Mark Mazzetti, Julian E. Barnes, Tyler Pager, Edward Wong, Eric Schmitt and Ronen Bergman
      The reporters have collectively spent decades covering America’s wars from Washington and overseas.
      March 2, 2026 Updated 4:04 p.m. ET

      About what one would expect from an idiocracy, & that IMO includes the military leadership. Chief of JCS Dan Caine may not be an idiot, but he seems to be a craven careerist more than willing to serve malignant idiocracy.

      Do people see the parallel between US-Israeli behavior leading up to this “MMO”, that of Imperial Japan leading up to the Day of Infamy?

      & the account at the end of the article of how the IRI leadership decided to hold an on site all hands on deck meeting at the Supreme Leader’s residence, instead of secret deep bunker, when all signs point to an imminent attack, seems to rhyme with/ the intelligence & decision making failure of the US leading up to Pearl Harbor, too. Apparently, the Iranian leadership did not think Israel & the US would start strikes in daylight.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 10:07 pm

      @Jay: One of the endgames envisioned by the Trump gang was a “pragmatic” faction of the IRGC taking over, one that is less hostile to the US & Israel, w/ some ayatollah as a figurehead Supreme Leader. A sort of Venezuela 2.0.

      Hard to see how that would be a net positive to the Iranians.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Eyeroller

      March 2, 2026 at 10:10 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian: Also an unlikely outcome.  Usually it’s the hardliners who win in a situation like this, or so it seems from much of history.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Jay

      March 2, 2026 at 10:11 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian:

      And Iran and Turkey were the only nation’s that had Qatar’s back, despite “security agreements” with the good old USA.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      Jay

      March 2, 2026 at 10:27 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian:

      There is no “pragmatic” faction of the IRGC.

      They hold to their “vision” that Iran must dominate all areas of the ME, other than Turkey, to “counter” the US, Israel and “The West”.

      They have the lived experience of Iran being a “target” for the past 47 years, and being a “target” as apostates for Sunni Islam for 640 years.

      Reply
    124. 124.

      different-church-lady

      March 2, 2026 at 10:32 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: It’s like, you and me and a mere handful of others get that, right?

      Reply
    125. 125.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 10:33 pm

      @Jay: Well, what kind of analysis would you expect out of an idiocracy?

      Reply
    126. 126.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 11:09 pm

      The US quietly discussing moving THAAD & Patriot batteries from South Korea to the ME (link to the article in the Chosun below):

      U.S. Considers Relocating THAAD, Patriots to Middle East
      South Korea-based systems may be moved amid prolonged U.S. military operation against Iran
      By Yang Ji-ho
      Published 2026.03.03. 00:49 Updated 2026.03.03. 06:15

      At least they are not moving assets from Guam.

      Presumably such moves being considered is based on an assessment that Kim the 3rd is unlikely to attack the South any time soon (which is mostly likely true). It is also tacit acknowledgement that South Korea is unlikely to allow the US forces in the country to fight the PRC in a Taiwan scenario, & thus US bases in South Korea is unlikely to be target of PRC missile strikes.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 11:33 pm

      Encouraging Kurds to rise up against an oppressive regime, w/ direct involvement of Kurds in neighboring countries, on Bibi’s advise, what could possibly go wrong? (link to Axios article below):

      Scoop: Trump calls Kurdish leaders in Iran war effort

      • Barak Ravid, Marc Caputo

      President Trump spoke by phone with Kurdish leaders in Iraq on Sunday to discuss the U.S.-Israel war with Iran and what might come next, three sources with knowledge of the calls told Axios.

      Why it matters: The Kurds have thousands of soldiers along the Iran-Iraq border and control strategic areas that could be significant as the war develops. Iraq’s Kurds also have close ties to Iran’s Kurdish minority.

      Zoom in: Trump spoke to leaders from the two main Kurdish factions in Iraq — Masoud Barzani and Bafel Talabani — a day after the Saturday bombing campaign began, two of the sources said.

      • A source with knowledge of the calls said they were “sensitive” and declined to give details on their content.
      • The calls were the culmination of months of behind-the-scenes lobbying by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, another source said. Israel has had close security, military and intelligence ties with the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and Iran for decades.
      • “It is the general view, and certainly Netanyahu’s view, that the Kurds are going to come out of the woodwork … that they’re going to rise up,” one official said.

      Inside the room: Netanyahu, who “has been relentless” in urging strikes on and regime change in Iran, first advocated for the Kurds in a White House meeting with Trump.

      • “When he first came over and sat with Trump for hours, you would have thought Netanyahu had it all figured out,” the official said.
      • “He had the successor planned out. He had the Kurds all figured out: Two sets of Kurdish groups here and there. This many people are going to rise up,” the official added.

      …

      Aside from Tehran, there might be other regional capitals which would be alarmed by such development (Baghdad & Ankara, for two). Also, I suspect Erbil would not want to risk attriting the Peshmerga, the guarantor of its autonomy from Baghdad, fighting the far more powerful IRGC in Iran.

      Also, letting Bibi drive US policy & actions in the ME, recipe for disaster & blow back.

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Jay

      March 2, 2026 at 11:37 pm

      Brandon Friedman

      ‪@brandonfriedman.bsky.social‬

      Follow
      Two days into the war:

      – three F-15s shot down

      – U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia in flames

      – six U.S. service members confirmed dead; more wounded

      – State Department tells Americans to flee the entire Middle East

      CNN: Three US fighter jets accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, military says
      By Haley Britzky
      ,
      Helen Regan
      Helen Regan
      ,
      Eyad Kourdi
      ,
      Isaac Yee
      ,
      Teele Rebane
      ,
      Lucas Lilieholm
      Updated 13 hr ago
      ALT

      Reuters: Fire at US embassy complex in Riyadh after blast heard, sources say
      By Reuters
      March 2, 20266:23 PM CSTUpdated 13 mins ago

      ALT

      New York Times: U.S. military death toll rises to 6
      ALT

      CNN: State Dept urges US citizens to “DEPART NOW” from countries throughout Middle East
      ALT
      4:49 PM · Mar 2, 2026

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    129. 129.

      Marc

      March 2, 2026 at 11:39 pm

      @Eyeroller: I’m glad to hear it worked for you.​

      I would say “I survived it” rather than “it worked for me”, as it along with leucovorin (?, I also got it) killed my Mom roughly a year later (sepsis).  A decade later when they did a now routine genetic workup after my next malignancy, I was told that chemo wasn’t necessary, our particular mutation only metastasizes locally.

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    130. 130.

      kalakal

      March 2, 2026 at 11:45 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian: The Kurds would have to be absolute idiots ( which they’re not ) to trust any assurances from the US & Israel as to continuing support if they ‘rise up’

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    131. 131.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 2, 2026 at 11:56 pm

      @Jay: Hard for Americans to evacuate the entire ME region when all of the regional aviation hubs have shut down.

      Iran striking the US embassy in Riyadh is an unjustified escalation, from both the perspective of international law & realpolitik.

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    132. 132.

      Jay

      March 3, 2026 at 12:12 am

      @YY_Sima Qian:

      Normally, the evac’s are done before the US starts bombing.

      Many evac’s are done after somebody else starts the bombing, often by sea.

      The US State Department’s message is basically, “try to get out, we won’t help, sucks to be you.”

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    133. 133.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 12:19 am

      After condemning the Israeli-US war on Iran, the PRC is now cautioning Iran on its attacks in the GCC states, probably because of Iran’s closure of the Strait of Hormuz, & Iran’s strikes against regional oil/gas infrastructure (gift link to Bloomberg article below):

      China Urges Iran Consider Neighbors’ ‘Reasonable Concerns’
      By Foster Wong

      March 2, 2026 at 10:03 PM GMT+8
      Updated on March 3, 2026 at 12:26 AM GMT+8
      Takeaways by Bloomberg AI

      • Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called on Iran to pay attention to the “reasonable concerns” of its neighbors after Tehran’s retaliation against US and Israeli attacks.
      • Wang reaffirmed China’s support for Iran’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and said China values the traditional friendship between China and Iran.
      • Wang told Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi that Iran can maintain social stability under the current “severe and complex” situation while considering neighbors’ concerns.

      …

      The PRC has always balanced its transactional relations w/ all of the major players in the ME. It’s commercial & tech. partnerships w/ the KSA & the UAE are significantly greater than that w/ Iran, & it certainly has sold a lot more weapons to the two countries.

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    134. 134.

      Archon

      March 3, 2026 at 12:34 am

      @YY_Sima Qian: I’m not here to defend the Iranian regime but didn’t we just blow up a girls school?

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    135. 135.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 12:37 am

      @Archon: & bombing a diplomatic mission is both an unjustifiable & ineffective response to that particular war crime.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 12:42 am

      @kalakal: Türkiye will probably intervene if that happens:

      Ragıp Soylu @ragipsoylu

      Turkey has learned one lesson throughout decades: Whenever there is a regime change op in the region, it is Ankara that would pay the price. Not the US, not Israel, not the Europeans, not anyone else. It would be Turkey. Hence why Ankara has been vehemently against it

      Europe has paid a price, too, from the refugee flows that have roiled their domestic politics.

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    137. 137.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 1:30 am

      Dissembling by the EU Commission spokesperson on the Israeli-US war on Iran:

      Finbarr Bermingham @fbermingham

      Quite a pointed exchange on Iran at the European Commission’s daily press conference today in which the spokespeople refused to explain whether the US & Israel breached international law, or clarify von der Leyen’s post over the weekend which appeared to call for regime change

      Rather than answering the questions, the commission spokespeople just kept telling reporters – who were seeking clarity on the position – that the position was “crystal clear”. Not sure how effective this comms strategy is. Summarised below…

      Reporter 1: do the strikes breach international law?
      Spox: Our position is quite clear and outlined in the highest form possible – we call for full respect of international law including principles of the UN Charter. This is our official position and I think it’s crystal clear

      Reporter 2: Does commission stand by rules-based order & territorial integrity or has it gone out the window this weekend?
      Spox: We always prioritise diplomacy. We adopted sanctions reminder against a regime that was killing its own people… in all this we prioritised diplomacy

      Reporter 3: I’ll switch to French, maybe I don’t understand English… is this illegal under int’l law?
      Spox: English, French, whatever you like. Commission position is finalised, isn’t easy to have a common position on this kind of subject… quite clear what she did/didn’t say

      Reporter 4: I’m straining to understand – does EU support the US and Israel attacks?
      Spox: What we do not support is the oppressive regime that’s been killing people in Iran – that’s against any law… you may wish to hear different words, but what has been said has been said.

      Glad that’s been cleared up then!

      Ironically, the gaslighting is reminiscent of what the PRC MFA puts out wrt to Putin’s current invasion of Ukraine.

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    138. 138.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 2:04 am

      It seems the Trump DOD is hiding a mass casualty event – the Iranian drone strike on a temporary US military facility in Kuwait, which has resulted in the vast majority of US casualties in this war:

      No warning, no siren: Six US service members killed in Iranian strike that hit makeshift operations center in Kuwait
      By Haley Britzky

      UPDATED 1 HR 6 MIN AGO

      The first US service members to die in the conflict between the US and Iran were killed by a direct Iranian strike on a makeshift operations center at a civilian port in Kuwait on Sunday morning local time, a source familiar with the situation told CNN.
      The death toll from that attack at the Shuaiba port has since risen to six, US Central Command announced on Monday afternoon, after the remains of two additional service members were recovered.
      Earlier Monday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that the strike that killed the service members hit a “tactical operation center that was fortified,” but there was “one” projectile that made it through air defenses.CNN previously reported the event was a suspected drone strike.
      The source familiar said it was a direct hit just after 9 a.m. local time, on the center of the building they described as a triple-wide trailer with office space inside. The attack came quickly and with no warning or sirens to alert troops to evacuate or get into a bunker, the source said. Hours after the strike, fire was still smoldering in some parts of the building, the source described – the inside of the makeshift operations center blackened and the walls blown outwards from the blast, some parts peeling away from the building.
      …

      The DOD never announced the number of MIAs after the shit, & is instead slowing adding to the KIA count as bodies are recovered. At this point, though, all of the MIAs are by now very likely KIAs.
      & the troops were in trailers & not fortified bunkers, utterly inexcusable!

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    139. 139.

      anastasio beaverhausen

      March 3, 2026 at 2:07 am

      I’ve seen a lot of head and neck shingles in my time and this doesn’t look like it.  It’s a bad picture, granted, but I don’t see the typical vesicles and dermatomal pattern.  My guess is efudex for a basal or squamous cell cancer.  Being a Florida golfer and very, very white that is a classic location on the back/side of the neck.  But of course we will never know for sure.

      Reply
    140. 140.

      YY_Sima Qian

      March 3, 2026 at 3:15 am

      @YY_Sima Qian: Pretty much:

      Evan A. Feigenbaum @EvanFeigenbaum

      So after all the hooh-hah and economic coercion of the last decade, China may finally succeed in getting the THAADs out of South Korea … just not quite in the way it expected! (Seriously, anyone who thinks Beijing is cowering. miserable, and back on its heels because of American strategic genius in the Middle East is delusional. If this kind of thing keeps up, Beijing should be quite pleased, actually.)

      Reply
    141. 141.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:08 am

      @bbleh: First time I’ve seen a photo of the rash and it looks like shingles to me. Hee hee.

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:09 am

      @Librettist: I think using a power sander to remove the rash is considered homeopathic.

      Reply
    143. 143.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:11 am

      @Suzanne: Thanks for making me think about that.

      Reply
    144. 144.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:18 am

      @Miss Bianca: They are toolish, IMO.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:24 am

      @Martin: Agree that if it is shingles, he’s doped up pretty damn good or has a very high tolerance for pain.

      Reply
    146. 146.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:50 am

      @Eyeroller: It looks like what my mother suffered with.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 10:54 am

      @YY_Sima Qian: Israel is the dominant military hegemon in the region.

      Reply
    148. 148.

      Ruckus

      March 3, 2026 at 11:19 am

      @Suzanne:

      Would you get any part of that morherfucker in your mouth?!?!

      Or even anywhere near him?

      As in miles and miles and miles. (Let’s see is that enough miles…)

      Reply
    149. 149.

      Ruckus

      March 3, 2026 at 11:24 am

      @Jeffro:

      So, he shuffles around, looks in mirrors a lot, can’t manage simple math, grows rashes….. Anything odd about him?????

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    150. 150.

      Ruckus

      March 3, 2026 at 11:28 am

      @Jeffro:

      trickle down to workers and boost their pay

      I understood that trickle to actually be tinkle, as in you really don’t want someone tinkling on you……

      Reply
    151. 151.

      Geminid

      March 3, 2026 at 11:36 am

      @Paul in KY: I think the Turks would dispute that, and with good reason.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      Paul in KY

      March 3, 2026 at 2:09 pm

      @Geminid: Good point. They are the other. For some reason I had them (in my mind) as more ‘European’. My fault as you are correct.

      Reply

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