Despite all the fussing and fighting, today is the day that contraception coverage is now mandated for all insurers. Proving that the last wail of pain is often the loudest, there’s this:
“I know in your mind you can think of the times America was attacked,” said Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.), a freshman.
“One is December 7 — that is Pearl Harbor Day. Another was September 11 — that was the day of the terrorist attack.
“I want you to remember August 1, 2012 — the attack on our religious freedom. That is a date that will live in infamy, along with those other dates.”
Unfortunately, morons like this guy are making good organizations like the Guttmacher Institute spend money on quality, accurate, videos explaining just how vitally important contraception is to the general health of our population, not to mention how contraception keeps women from having abortions:
I cannot fucking believe that this video has to be made, but there you have it. It’s 2012 and we have to explain that something used by virtually every woman is a good thing.
Tonal Crow
Republicans will compare these benefits to Hitler in 5…4…3….
—
Tag: Romney’s worse than Sarah Palin.
Patricia Kayden
Let the Repubs rage on. They sound more stupid than ever.
Ash Can
I recall seeing a photograph a few months ago of a middle-aged woman (like me) at some rally holding up a sign that said, “I can’t believe we’re still debating this issue.” Says it all, AFAIC.
Ash Can
@Patricia Kayden: Plus they call all kinds of attention to the benefits that went into effect today. Bring it on.
kindness
What I’m having a hard time understanding is how the fundies have made the claim that contraception is just as bad as abortion and should be treated as equally iky.
Where TF has this come from? I don’t even recognise these people any more.
beltane
@Tonal Crow: I really detest the way these Republican assholes are rehabilitating Hitler. Next thing you know they’ll be crediting Hitler for blue skies and warm summer breezes.
Chris
@kindness:
I do. They’re the same religious nuts as always. And to them, sex is as bad as abortion. It’s not about life, it’s about obedience to God (as defined by them).
butler
@kindness: They’re anti-sex and anti-woman. Its as simple as that.
Citizen_X
I can’t believe you people are so willing to oppress me with that video. This is like Kim Jong-Hitler times ten.
SFAW
@kindness:
“Every sperm is sacred”, remember?
pragmatism
NEVER FORGET the day that limited government proponents were prevented from governing a woman’s nooners.
Jerzy Russian
I am sure the victims of Pearl Harbor and 9-11 would have preferred to have pills dropped on them, rather than bombs, bullets, planes, etc.
Can’t we outlaw stupidity already? If this Congress won’t do that, let’s get one that will.
Roger Moore
@butler:
No, they’re pro-sex and anti-woman. They want (married) people to have sex; they just want them to have babies as a result.
Roger Moore
@pragmatism:
They want to shrink government until it’s small enough to probe a woman’s vagina.
Jerzy Russian
@pragmatism:
I will always remember where I was when things came down on 8/1/12: working my ass off all day (with numerous breaks to look at this blog).
SFAW
Given this, and some of the “This is like …” in the other Mike-Kelly-is-a-fucking-moron thread, I’m a thinkin’ it’s time for a thread devoted to hyperbole and its injudicious use by the Reichtards.
On the other hand, having a thread like that would be the worst thing since Osama bin-Hitler-Soros flew the Lusi-tanic-burg into the Twin Towers, the aircraft being loaded with 100-megaton anthrax/botulinum warheads, as well as abortifacient-laced voter registration/rape forms to be dropped on the Tomb of St. Andrew Breitbart.
Tonal Crow
@kindness:
From their need to
get their hands on THEIR PRECIOUSgain political power to use to subjugate you, me, and everyone else to their will.—
Tag: Romney’s worse than Sarah Palin.
Jerzy Russian
@SFAW:
You forgot to throw the personal mandate in there.
Jay in Oregon
@kindness:
What I’m having a hard time understanding is how the fundies have made the claim that contraception is just as bad as abortion and should be treated as equally iky.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jerzy Russian:
You’ll have to be sure Mike Kelly isn’t in Congress. He won’t vote to outlaw himself, unless you can make him think he’s gay or something. Then he’ll happily vote for it.
pragmatism
@Roger Moore: some sort of wand shaped government? i suppose the wimmens can always turn their head or not listen to the results, you know, in the interest of fairness.
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
Dunning-Kruger might work in our favor for something like that. The dumbest, most incompetent Congresscritters will believe they’re under no personal risk and will be happy to pass legislation they think will only ban those evil liebruls.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jay in Oregon:
This.
A million times, this.
The opposition to abortion has ALWAYS been about sexytime. Babies are totally secondary. It’s about punishing the sluts, about controlling women.
It’s like that moron troll we had here the other day, all concerned with “fetal pain”, without the slightest consideration of the non-sentient, non-human incubator organism of the fetus.
They really do not get that part. At all.
Seebach
Gotta ask about Susan G. Komen. Anyone know if they’re still feeling the hurt, or has that storm passed?
SFAW
@Jerzy Russian:
Numerous responses come to mind. The less vile ones:
1) I left it out so you’d have something to do
2) Your
crucifyingcorrecting me is the worst disaster since the Holocaust3) Doh!
4) I don’t think Mrs. SFAW would appreciate it if I went on a man date
5) Because SHUT UP!
usw.
Boots Day
Mike Kelly and his wife have four children. I wonder why they never had more than that.
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@Jay in Oregon:
…and we’ve reached the point where the simplest refutation is something along the lines of “keep your fucking religion to yourself, m’kay?”
SFAW
@Boots Day:
Because the milkman only drops by once every couple of years or so?
Boots Day
By the way, I saw this on Mike Kelly’s Web site, under “Mike’s Story”:
Mike, if not for the “gross over-reach of the Obama administration,” there wouldn’t be a General Motors, and your franchise would have been kaput anyway.
SatanicPanic
@SFAW:
He’s taking your first amendment rights!
SFAW
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:
If only it were that easy.
Southern Beale
Aaaand over in my home state of Tennessee:
TN Rep. Kelly Keisling forwards Obama fake assassination/martial law rumor to constituents
Tennessee legislators, STILL embarrassing me …
D. Mason
@kindness:
Most of this is being fueled by the leadership of the Catholic Church. There’s something about contraception that they can’t stand. Perhaps because their sexual interests don’t lie in women, or adults, they’re not stressing on the unwanted pregnancy factor that all women and most men consider a part of sexual life.
hep kitty
I liked Rachel’s segment last night talking about how this looks to the average American who is worried shitless about the economy and is looking to Congress to do something about it, NOW.
We are paying these people to do this sort of thing, in these times.
Now, when my mom was growing up in the south in the 40’s, she lived in a small town. She said a lady from a PP type organization would come around to ladies’ homes, including my grandmother’s, and give you condoms and it was no big deal and this shit pisses her off as much as it does me.
Again, this was the south in the 40’s. My grandmother had 2 children.
pragmatism
@SatanicPanic:
FSM help us I have seen this argument unironically used at least 10 times today. apparently a lot of people took professor palin’s constitutional law seminar.
Ben Franklin
@Southern Beale:
That might be something JW Booth might say to facilitate his escape.
Has the Secret Service interviewed?
The Moar You Know
I can understand how this would be an issue for Republicans – it’s not like you need contraception when the entirety of your sex life is anonymously fucking other men in airport bathroom stalls, or donning two wetsuits and hanging yourself from the ceiling with a dildo in your ass.
SatanicPanic
@pragmatism: I vouch for that. Almost all because of the Chik-Fil-A sponsored Westboro Baptist Church rally that’s going on today. “It’s their business what they want to support, LIBERAL GESTAPO!”
Frankensteinbeck
@Villago Delenda Est:
I don’t think it’s about punishing the sluts and controlling women. Those are fringe benefits. It’s about enforcing their culture on the rest of us. It’s about disapproving of sex, period. Punishing men for it is and always has been on the list, usually with ‘now you have to marry her’, although they’ve gotten good runs with ‘masturbate and you go to Hell’. They just haven’t regressed that far back yet. It’s about our society’s attitude that sex is a process where men prey on women, and their terror of their daughters being victimized by so much as learning sex exists. It’s about them personally knowing that sex in their life has always been an act of selfishness, so it’s good to protect young women from it.
This has always been on the fundie agenda. Always. They stopped talking about it openly because it got public backlash. Abortion was a much more winning fight, because ‘You’re killing babies’ is the most righteous sounding thing you can possibly say.
Ash Can
@D. Mason:
It’s this: Vatican II was all set to OK contraception, but the wingnut bishops of that day persuaded Pope Paul VI that putting the Church in the position of appearing to admit that it had made a doctrinal mistake would be worse than anything else the Church could possibly do. As a result, they know that the ban on contraception was a political, rather than doctrinal, decision, they know that lay Catholics know, and they know that said laity has, and has had for decades, the attitude that the Vatican can take its face-saving political decision and stick it up its collective ass.
g
President Barack Obama is planning to fake his assassination as part of a plan to impose martial law.
He’s going to pretend being dead so he can rule as Supreme Dictator?
Older_Wiser
Is castration for these mindless misogynists asking too much?
Or they can just stop fucking with my bodily functions.
[Sigh] At least I’m well past my childbearing years, but they’ll find something to screw with, like my Social Security and Medicare.
Roger Moore
@g:
Nobody ever said crazy conspiracy theories have to make sense. And maybe it’s something that got garbled; he was going to fake an attempted assassination, pin the blame on wingnuts, and use that as an excuse to take away our guns and our right to vote.
bemused
@Villago Delenda Est:
Considering how prevalent pron watching is in repressed fundie areas of the country, they are getting their sexy times, just not always with their partners. What messed up people.
Redleg
I think it’s just about time to put these insane tea-party officials down like we do rapid dogs.
bemused
Of course, Republicans are freaking out. They know very well that trying to take away contraceptive coverage from women and their spouses/partners after they have the extra savings in their pockets will go over like a lead balloon.
bemused
Of course, Republicans are freaking out. They know very well that trying to take away contraceptive coverage from women and their spouses/partners after they have the extra savings in their pockets will go over like a lead balloon.
bemused
Of course, Republicans are freaking out. They know very well that trying to take away contraceptive coverage from women and their spouses/partners after they have the extra savings in their pockets will go over like a lead balloon.
jon
It is like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor Day! You have Americans loving each other and going to work and play, thinking it’s a lovely day for fun and pleasure. Then some goons representing crazed religions and the worship of a man-god (Emperor or something that’s an anagram of “insane anglo warlord”) appear to make things miserable and try to make us forget ourselves. But we fight for what’s right because we must.
bemused
Hiccup.
Patricia Kayden
@Southern Beale: I love his faux apology. Pretty much promises to be careful about how he distributes such nonsense in the future. I guess he’s shocked that one of the recipients sent the email to Huff Post. What an Idiot.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
So, someone on FB goes:
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@SFAW:
Try saying it to someone’s face sometime. They STFU real quick.
(Just make sure you’re not outnumbered…)
Tehanu
Well, there’s your problem right there. Women use it, ergo it’s (a) totally unimportant and (b) really icky.
SFAW
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:
Well, not being especially tough – unlike those manly-men Reichtards – and not being into talking the talk if I can’t walk the walk (again, unlike those manly-men Reichtards), I’m not sure if I’d have the stones to try it.
But your encouragement may get me actually to try it. I just hope I don’t pick the one Reichtard who’s packin’, and I end up being used for target practice. (Of course, if that happens, I don’t know if Mrs. SFAW will blame you, or thank you.)
Miki
So, tell me – WTF is wrong with folks who don’t support this? Seriously? What are they afraid of? That their kid/grandkid will pop out a little bastard and will have to pay child support? Yep – that happens (but “she told me she was on the pill!!!!” Bwaaahaaaahahahahah). That their kid/grandkid will pop out a little bastard and will drop out of college and marry that jerk? Yep – that happens, too ( but “he told me he loved me!!!!!” Bwahhaaaahaaaa.) That they might have to parent that precious bundle of joy in their 40s/50s/60s? Bwahaaaahaaaaa.
There’s an app for that, folks – it’s called birth control.
SFAW
@Miki:
The decline of American exceptionalism, if sex-without-consequences is made available to “those” people.
That, plus it allows them to feel morally superior to anyone who likes sex for its own sake.
Fluke bucket
08.01.2012 will always be remembered as Chick Fil A Day.
Miki
@SFAW: In a prior life I regularly ran into these people and they were, sadly, more concerned about money and inconvenience than sex.
But now that I think about it, money and inconvenience are an easy substitute for sex – bad sex, not good sex (duh).
Bad sex – it explains so much ….
Stentor
I say we all go to Representative Mike Kelly’s Congressional House webpage (https://kelly.house.gov/contact-me/email-me) & leave the following message: Until you grow or otherwise obtain a pair of ovaries, I firmly suggest you shut the fuck up.
The following zipcodes will get you past his pesky verification hurdle: Butler 16001, Greenville 16125, Erie 16507, Meadville 16335, or Warren 16365
debbie
It’s probably already been said, but do these clowns who wave the Founding Fathers around like little flags not understand that this country was founded by people seeking to escape Church persecution, and that their demands will only lead to a reinstatement of that kind of persecution? What kind of patriotism is that?
SFAW
@Miki:
I must be from a different era: I was always taught – well, led to believe, I guess – that there’s no such thing as bad sex.
It’s just that some is better than others …
SFAW
@debbie:
Fixed, to reflect more accurately the Reichtard Manly Men ethos
Villago Delenda Est
@debbie:
Well, the Puritans in MA founded this country to escape persecution, mainly because they were not the ones persecuting.
Once they got here, it was wide open for them to persecute away.
Which gave us Rhode Island, and started a whole new trend: telling the persecutors to stick it.
One that the jeebofascists are eager to reverse.
Fluke bucket
@SFAW: As the old prophet once said, “Ever since the first I had the worst I had was good”
SFAW
@Fluke bucket:
Preach it, brother!!
RedKitten
Let’s not forget that for the fundies, one of the biggest affronts is that a lot of women are working outside the home, instead of staying home and raising their babies like God intended.
And to them, a lot of that blame lies squarely with birth control. If women would just accept whatever babies God wants to grant them with, then it would all be okay again.
But right now, because women can actually choose when to have children, the damn broads aren’t happy with their proper place anymore! We have women who are letting daycares raise their children, going to work (at a job that they took away from some deserving man, no doubt), and they don’t even have the house cleaned and supper on the table when their husbands get home! It’s just not the natural way of things, by gum!
Chet
@RedKitten: And this viewpoint is by no means confined to conservative men. Some of the staunchest “pro-life” (read: pro-forced-birth/pro-natalist/pro-patriarchy) nutters are women – those who chose “traditional” gender roles (or had the choice made for them by circumstance, familial or church pressure, etc.) and for whom the very existence of other lifestyle options for other women is a tacit and untenable rebuke to themselves.
Kristen Luker addresses these dynamics in her (absolutely essential) Abortion and the Politics of Motherhood.
OpalSky 42
@SFAW: Oh, Dude, that glorious line of lunacy is definitely a winner! 5 stars!