Brothers gotta stick together, right Sununu:
SUNUNU: You have to wonder whether that’s an endorsement based on issues or that he’s got a slightly different reason for President Obama.
MORGAN: What reason would that be?
SUNUNU: Well, I think that when you have somebody of your own race that you’re proud of being President of the United States — I applaud Colin for standing with him.
Racial pride. That is why Colin is voting for Obama. I guess that is why Sununu is voting for Romney and making all sorts of racially loaded comments. Condi Rice and JC Watts were unavailable for comment.
lamh35
ugh, seriously, why the fuck hasn’t this sumabitch been wrapped around Romney’s freakin’ neck? The Obama camp can’t do it, so serously WTF!!
robotswillstealyourjobs
We’ve still got a couple weeks left for a NI-clang moment. C’mon Sununu, you can do it!
GregB
I am ashamed that this venomous, troll like sack of bilge is from my state.
Keep slinging the muck fuck-face.
fleeting expletive
wow, I can’t hardly believe I come to BJ tonight and happen upon that Sususnnusuusnnuu quote. Did anyone watch Speaker Pelosi on Jon stewart’s show tonight?
the Conster
That fat ugly fuck should have stayed under the rock he crawled out from. That’s a face that’s just crying out for a brick in it.
Keith
OT but the main Colbert bit tonight has me in tears. Incredible…
bemused
Mitt surrounds his campaign with the most charming people.
Sununu: Reason #gazillion not to vote for Mitt.
Lurking Canadian
Sununu’s so awful, you don’t want to believe he’s real. He’s like the straw conservative in an Aaron Sorkin show, only worse.
Mike in NC
Would love the apportunity to piss down Sununu’s throat.
Anya
I cannot wait for the tears from that senile old crook when Mittens loses. I so hope POTUS wins with a comfortable margin. What a racist prick.
MikeJ
@Lurking Canadian:
Sorkin always bent over backwards to make the Republicans look better than they are.
Sununu is the reason why Obama is going to win NH.
Hill Dweller
@Keith: The Hanks bit was great, too.
Hill Dweller
Don’t forget, Sununu also called the President dumb and lazy after the first debate.
The Dangerman
@Mike in NC:
He’s added his name to the list of graves to piss on.
Punchy
And everyone glances in Condi’s direction….
Steve
There’s some meme going around Facebook with Colin Powell sitting next to Louis Farrakhan at some recent event they were both entitled to… oh that must be it! Colin Powell has become a radical black separatist, who knew. These people are such loons, it’s small wonder rational people want nothing to do with them.
By the way, John Sununu ain’t the whitest guy on the block, I’m just sayin.
Hill Dweller
Ryan is holding a fundraiser with Glenn Beck and Dick Cheney in Texas tonight.
aimai
@Lurking Canadian:
Oh, hey, Lurking Canadian, please tell Mrs. Lurking Canadian that I got banned (insert crying emoticon) at the DWIL so we won’t be bumping into each other there. I decided to take the hint and try to go cold turkey on it instead of re-upping with a new avatar. But if I get weak I’ll reintroduce myself to her under whatever new avatar I end up with.
aimai
Hawes
So who would you like to be the guy to have the NI-CLANG moment?
I kind of want it to be Rick Scott. Cock headed man whore that he is.
Villago Delenda Est
It never occurs to racist shitstains like Sununu that Powell might be endorsing Obama because he’s the better man in the race.
Oh, wait. In Sununu’s eyes, Obama will always be a boy.
danielx
@Hill Dweller:
You’re just fucking with us, aren’t you.
SFAW
For some time, I have been openly advocating for the secession of Dumbfuckistan (ne’ Tejas a/k/a “Nuevo Aztlan”), after having all the Rethug assholes (sorry for the redundancy) move there. I think it would be fitting and proper that the Preznit of Dumbfuckistan be the Head Asshole himself. Of course, to honor him properly, the title will have to change to Head Prolapsed-Pig-Rectum, but you get the idea.
I think it would be good humor if someone tied Sununununununu to the terrists, due to his Palestinian heritage, and to the commies, since he was born in Cuba.
Citizen Alan
“Prolapsed pig rectums … vast rolls of sweaty flesh never meant to see daylight, centered with a nasty little red wound,” said Annie Laurie. Perhaps the most evocative and yet accurate description ever offered in the history of the Internet. I sincerely hope that a day will come when you can’t google John Sununu’s name without “prolapsed pig rectum” showing up in the first three hits.
Hill Dweller
@danielx: Nope. Maddow had the scoop on her show.
fleeting expletive
Hawes, I think it might be one of the more hotheaded TB guys, or Louie Gohmert of TX. maybe one of them. Or it could be Jim Inhoff. I believe he could rise to that challenge.
Well. It still is likely to happen. Maybe even ol’ Macaca himself (Allen of (Virginia?)) himself.
gex
@SFAW: Love the plan. We should offer political asylum to the sane people who want to GTFO of that Glibertarian/Taliban paradise, but that’s my only quibble with your proposal.
kindness
Too early to push the Giants win tonight?
pseudonymous in nc
It’s Casual Racism Thursday.
Or Sununu is the Designated Troll, and we haven’t even got to the American League park yet.
Keith
@Hill Dweller: That’s the one I was talking about (just assumed it was the main bit because of how long it went)
Frankensteinbeck
@Hawes:
Romney. I would like it to be Romney. I don’t think there’s the slightest chance there will be, or that there will be a ni-CLANG moment from anyone we’d consider a major GOP figure. But hey, if I’m wishing, I’d like Romney to be recorded ranting how humiliating it is to be losing to…
aimai
@Frankensteinbeck:
One of the few things that gives me pleasure in this crazy, cockeyed world, is the thought that Mr. and Mrs. Average Millionaire Romney will never, ever, eat out or stay in a hotel again without the niggling knowledge that 47 percent of the people in the country (at least) have spat in their soup, or are recording their every fart and moan.
aimai
GxB
There’s a word that’s been on his mind
Wants use it all the time
Oh Su-su-Sunu-neo
If only those church bells rang
He’d bring about the great “Ni-CLANG”
Su-su-Sunu-neo
It’s… all… he… needs
To fulfill his life
He’d feel so good
If he could just say the word!
(Now I’ll have to take up trepanning to get that earworm out)
JCT
@Citizen Alan: That’s just crying out for the “Santorum” treatment, isn’t it?
Shakespeare
@aimai: “Spat”? Oh, my dear, no. More viscous, tangy, and salty (depending on what the busboy had for breakfast).
KG
@Frankensteinbeck: That would be something…
SatanicPanic
Meatloaf endorsed Romney. Damn, the Republicans are getting all the dubious talents.
GxB
@Mike in NC: Christ, that would require your junk to be near that shitheel’s mouth… think, man, think.
Quaker in a Basement
Were these people born without the capacity for embarrassment or do they have it surgically removed?
General Stuck
What the worst is, I can hardly get outraged about this shit anymore. And I just want to board my canoe and paddle south to the equator, when I read polls that say 65 percent of white men are voting for Romney. Not only stupid, but suicidal to boot. Sununu is what we used to call fascist pigs, and still do.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-obama-white-men-2012-10#ixzz2ANOXZywG
The prophet Nostradumbass
@SatanicPanic: is that his second choice, after Trump? “absolutely!”
TexasMango
@General Stuck: White male privilege is in terrible danger dontcha know? They are rallying to protect it.
Politics has become a cultural and tribal identity. It’s like the majority of white males against the majority of everyone else. Pretty much everyone voting Republican is voting their whiteness now. The GOP should change to the WPP, White People’s Party.
danielx
Yow! Temperature is dropping faster than Richard Mourdock’s election chance. Has gone down 15 degrees in 20 minutes; was 76 today and will reach a high of 45 tomorrow with high winds all day.
And here I was going to clean out the gutters tomorrow. What a shame.
KG
@Frankensteinbeck: Actually, the more I think about it… The more I’d rather it be someone else, just to watch Romney try to reject the statement without distancing himself too far from the base. He would be in full weasel form. It’d be amazing, I think.
On the other hand, I’d love to see the media coverage. Would they actually use the word? Or bleep it when playing the clip? Or would it be all innuendo?
RaflW
It’s time to bring back shunning. People in the TV studio should just shut up, turn their backs, and refuse to engage these unrepentant assholes.
Cashiers, flight attendants, bank tellers, everyone. Just give John Sununu the fuckin cold shoulder full-time for realz.
TexasMango
@General Stuck: Also too, Romney needs 65% of all white voters to win. Hopefully, white women haven’t gone completely batshit crazy too.
Anya
@General Stuck: Wasn’t there some analysis about how Romney needs 70% of the white male vote to win? So, in some aspect these numbers are good news.
dslak
@General Stuck: There’s something weird about those numbers. How does 65-32 come out to 17? Does it mean that, adding together men and women, there’s a 17-point gender gap?
Also, the article says the two are still virtually tied, yet then starts examining entrails to find the hidden momentum in favor of Romney. Not exactly a dispassionate analysis, but if the numbers don’t tell the story you want to sell . . .
Culture of Truth
Earlier today I wrote that Powell’s endorsement didn’t count because, well, you know…
Aaaand….scene.
PeakVT
Tina Fey is about to lose her mind.
TexasMango
Notice how the meme that Romney couldn’t win without 40% of the Latino vote just disappeared as soon as the polls showed he was being beaten by PBO by 50 points?
And then it was Romney needed to break even with women and then they stopped talking about that once polls showed that Obama was beating him by double digits?
Now we are back to only white men mattering. Of course.
Redshift
@danielx: Dick Cheney, Glenn Beck, and Reince Priebus walk into a fundraiser…
No joke.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
From Think Progress:
Nope, it wasn’t. It really wasn’t.
Redshift
@Hill Dweller:
That one’s particularly hilarious. Back in the Bush I Administration, Sununu had a reputation for being really smart. Everyone in the Village knew he had a high IQ.
Eventually some enterprising reporter tracked down the source of the story, and of course it was Sununu himself. He found out he had a high IQ by taking a self-test in the back page of OMNI Magazine. (For you youngsters, OMNI was a soft-core science magazine from the publishers of Penthouse.)
Thatgaljill
@fleeting expletive:
Some of us have to wait until the sun goes down and the Giants shut out the Tigers before we can watch The Daily Show.
General Stuck
@Anya:
I think the total number suggested for Romney to win with the overall white vote is 60 percent male and female. A majority of white women voters are still for Romney, but in the low 50 percentile. So I think the mythical 60 percent white vote, right now comes in around 55 to 57 percent. But there are all sorts of cultural and demographic cross currents at play that makes that hard to predict. Like say the hardest core evangelical voters are notorious for not showing up to vote when expected. Then there is the Latino vote that is swinging wildly to Obama, well under another threshold point of the GOP needing 40 percent of those to win.
I think what it boils down to is Ohio and its seeming rock solid, though small margin preference for Obama, mostly due to the auto bailout and Kasich fatigue. And Obama’s OFA being far superior than Romney’s GOTV in Ohio and elsewhere.
An enthusiastic evangelical vote and more importantly those folks working to get their brethren to the polls, was widely credited for Ohio going for Bush in 2004. I wonder if that will be the same with Romney as the nominee.
Violet
@Hawes: I think it would be awesome if it were John McCain. It would simultaneously destroy McCain’s reputation and puncture any pretense “reasonable Republicans” still being in existence. And since he was the previous GOP presidential candidate, it would show the rot going back a ways.
Eric Ferhnstrom would be another good choice. Top adviser to Mitt, so it would directly impact Mitt’s campaign, plus that little shit would be out of a job.
Trump would provide comic relief if he did it. It would impact Romney’s campaign to some extent but the biggest impact would be in getting The Apprentice off the air and hurting Trump’s reputation.
Spatula
Colin Powell sat in front of the U.N. and the world and lied his ass off about imaginary weapons of mass destruction, using his alleged credibility and reputation to enable the Iraq War, as a result of which hundreds of thousands of people died.
He was the Secretary of State for George W. Bush’s criminal administration. That Barack Obama would desire or accept this crook’s endorsement just goes to show how thoroughly intertwined are the “good” guys and the “bad” guys in American government.
Fuck him.
J R in WV
Well, a long time ago, when I was a boy, there were Republicans who had honour, who actually admired Martin Luther King, who joined the NAACP because they wanted to support the advancement of the African-Americans.
People who hired folks regardless of their race. People you could trust to live up to their deal, on their handshake.
Those Republicans, my father was one, are all dead and gone now.
What we have left is the scum that floats to the top of a vat of molten metal, the impurities that need to be burned away from the pure metal.
Honour is foreign to American Republicans. They don’t understand that winning by cheating isn’t really winning, it’s just cheating. That is ‘W’ to a word – willing to steal an election when everyone in the world will know that he stole it.
So sad! Because America really needs two honorable political parties, in order for Democracy to work properly.
If one party is crazed, dishonorable, crooked political Republican thieves, with no ideas other than to pander and lie and cheat to gain political power, and then to use that power to steal money from the commonweal, well, Democracy becomes a hollow dream.
So sad!
RaflW
@Spatula:
That’s one interpretation.
Another: Willard is so corrupt/incompetent that even a UN-lying war criminal Republican won’t endorse him.
Joey Maloney
@gex: Except we should insist on keeping Austin in the USA with an open air corridor so we could airlift supplies (Obama merch, birth control pills, etc.). We could rename it New West Berlin.
priscianusjr
No surprise. That racial thing was going around big the last time Powell endorsed Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/limbaugh-george-will-powe_n_135968.html
The prophet Nostradumbass
I got this mailer a day or two ago labelled “Official Law Enforcement Voter Guide” here in the Bay Area, and for the ballot initiatives, there were a couple of doozies in it.
For Prop 34, to abolish the death penalty: “Prop 34 would let serial killers and those who murder children, peace officers and the elderly, escape justice. Prop 34 punishes the families of victims of these heinous crimes.”
For Prop 36, which narrows California’s ridiculous “Three Strikes” law: “Prop 36 narrows the Three Strikes Law, requiring the third strike to be ‘serious or violent’. California’s Three Strikes works. Keep violent offenders off our streets.”
The first one is a flat-out lie, and the second one is self-contradicting.
dslak
@Spatula: Right, Obama should publicly insult a man beloved of the Beltway and self-proclaimed moderates everywhere? You’re not very good at this whole election thing, are you?
Not to mention, lending support to someone who is correcting some of his old boss’s screw-ups is certainly the least that Powell can do.
TexasMango
@General Stuck: I remember back in 2008 the continuous refrain was that white males would realize that Obama was about to become president and turn out in droves. Obviously it didn’t happen.
Also back in 2010, the turn out of Republican voters wasn’t a surprise. There was a clear trend that predicted the outcome of the election.
I suppose anything will happen, but there is a trend and it’s in Obama’s favor. In terms of percentages Romney needs Bush’s number from 2008: 40% of the Latino vote and nearly half of the women’s vote and he’s not getting it. Because of changing demographics he needs 65% of the white vote and he doesn’t appear to be getting that either. The fact that the MSM doesn’t want to talk about it anymore doesn’t change things.
hells littlest angel
Powell supports Obama because they’re both black.
Sununu supports Romney because they’re both jerkoffs.
Hill Dweller
@TexasMango: The MSM also doesn’t want to talk about the reason for Willard getting such a disproportionate amount of the white male vote. It can’t be about policy, because Romney doesn’t have a policy plan.
Spatula
@dslak:
Do you have any standards/principles whatsoever?
Colin Powell is a lying sack of shit war criminal, and because he just might help your guy get elected, you’re more than ok with that.
Fuck you too.
Cmm
@RaflW: Or as they like to call it in Regency romances, “the Cut Direct” …
Spatula
If Colin the Killer had endorsed Mittens, the BJ Kook Kids would be shrieking about how it was a net negative for Romney because Powell is a soulless MIC war criminal with no integrity or honor.
But because he is fellating Barack, all is forgiven.
This is what John has allowed BJ to become.
Sherlock Hound
@Violet:
I wish it were Ferhnstrom too, but the Romney staffer I truly despised during his term in Mass. was Eric Kriss.
He gave the warmup to Romney’s “47%” speech to the Boston Chamber of Commerce, the infamous “Givers and Takers” speech. Romney disavowed it at the time, of course.
In a blog of mine several years later, I said that I did not believe Romney for a moment as he and all his friends and associates were all of a piece., i.e. all assholes.
Surprise!
dslak
@Spatula: And what does Obama gain by taking on the crusade against Powell you so desire? If you only want coalitions of the pure and untainted, I would suggest a religious order, but you know how guys in robes can be . . .
Spaghetti Lee
I dunno, guys. Can we trust the judgment of a wily Palestinian like Sununu?
Spatula
@dslak:
You’re disgusting.
amk
@SFAW: Let’s call it foxistan, as some BJ’er did.
dslak
@Spatula: I sure hope you’re consistent in your principles and called for Obama to tell Bill Clinton where to shove it when the latter endorsed Obama.
After all, Clinton had those obstruction of justice issues, and that whole infidelity thing that took a toll on his party. Plus, he signed DOMA.
But I guess you’re okay with that, since the Big Dog will help Obama get elected. And, of course, you don’t find it all deplorable when Politico et al attempt to refute Clinton with references to his past infidelities. Because you’re all about principles!
Yutsano
@Spaghetti Lee: I thought he was Lebanese. He’s still a shitstain regardless of his ethnicity.
freelancer
@Spatula:
And you’re as subtle as the ‘b’ in ‘subtle’.
amk
Ah, spats, the aargle bargle is here. The poutrage cup runneth over.
Spatula
@amk:
Ah, Barack Obama’s Political Career Is the Most Important Thing Ever AMK is here. The lack of principle runneth under.
Spatula
@dslak:
Very weak.
Lying to the U.N./enabling hundreds of thousands of war dead and maimed/waste of trillions of dollars/serving as GWB’s SOS = blow job/DOMA.
Got it.
You suck.
The prophet Nostradumbass
Heh heh.
and more!
amk
@Spatula: Eyyup. Makes you wanna pop a pill, or better yet, pop a vein, doesn’t it ? Go ahead and have a meltdown, you clown.
Spatula
@freelancer:
Actually, the b in subtle seems pretty subtle to me, seeing as how it’s not pronounced and all.
Did you work on that analogy for a while?
Spatula
@amk:
No, neither of those, actually. It just makes me want to point at you and laugh at what a clueless cultist you are. And so I do.
dslak
@Spatula: But this is a difference in degree, not kind. Where have your precious principles gone?
Not to mention, there likely would not even have been a second President Bush, absent that blowjob. So do you repudiate Clinton?
Spatula
@dslak:
Hmmm… seeing as how those degrees are about 5,000 miles apart, I’m pretty OK with it. You’re the one implying that purity is the issue here, not me.
I just draw the line somewhere before we get to facilitating mass murder on behalf of GWB.
You, your line is somewhere on beyond that.
Narcissus
@Yutsano: You gotta admit he’s got a sweet sail barge
dslak
@Spatula: Oh, so purity isn’t the issue here? You were the one who invoked “principles/standards,” but I see you’ve jettisoned those now that they’ve become inconvenient to your preening. Well played, Sir!
James E. Powell
@Spatula:
You completely miss the point. You either have never read the commentary here or you didn’t understand it when you did.
The Most Important Thing Ever aspect of this campaign is that Romney, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, and all the Republicans, and their corrupt corporate sponsors, and the ignorant, hateful bigots that are their base voters, and the religious fanatics, and the whole policy package of “Let’s give the rich more money and we’ll all be fine!” have to lose.
If they don’t lose, we are screwed. So if that means I have to pump up the all too human Barack Obama, then that’s the way it has to be. It’s either him or the party of Everything That’s Wrong About America and Has Been Wrong Since the Founding.
Which do you prefer?
Spatula
@dslak:
I haven’t jettisoned anything, you prevaricating idiot. My principle is that there are lines that are not crossed; not that there are NO lines (that’s YOUR schtick). One of them should be drawn before accepting the endorsement of war criminal liars who worked for GWB.
Let’s play a little game: The endorsement of PBO by Dick Cheney would probably move some Republitards toward the Dem. Cheney endorses PBO publicly. You’re PBO’s campaign manager. Do you accept and embrace this endorsement?
Yutsano
@James E. Powell: Jill Stein. Duh.
Spatula
@James E. Powell:
So wait a minute: So no discussion is allowed anywhere, even on blogs 99.9 percent of the American people do not read?
I’m asking about the core values/principles of your president. Does he have any? Apparently not regarding the past administration and its horrendous war crimes.
And now some idiot claims that Obama can’t reject Powell’s endorsement because the Beltway hacks love him, the same beltway hacks you folks spend a great deal of time mocking and bemoaning.
Again, I have no doubt this blog would be screaming about Powell’s mendacity had he endorsed Mittens. Please try to at least pretend to have some cohesive principles or values. It’s kind of stunning.
Spatula
@Yutsano:
Jill STein is actually kind of awesome.
I live in Massachusetts which will go for PBO. He doesn’t need my vote to continue his Republican Light occupation of the White House, so I may well vote for Jill Stein.
Unlike you, I’ve matured past the point where I feel the need to vote for the winning “team” to help shore up my self esteem. That’s your thang.
Also too: I’m rather fond of a theory I heard recently, contending that the election of Mittens to the White House would cause the Dems in the Senate to so firmly unite in opposition to the potential destruction of the Republic by this horrible robot president, that they would pull tight and play like Republicans, completely blocking Mittens’ ability to get anything done.
Why wouldn’t that work? After all, the only thing standing between us and the fall of America is the Democratic party, or is it just BO, The One?
James E. Powell
@Spatula:
I thought I stated my principles pretty clearly. Romney and all the Republicans need to lose. Unless and until that happens, we can’t move forward on anything else.
Spatula
@James E. Powell:
ALL the republicans? AS long as one is elected you’ll have an excuse, is that it?
Do you work directly for the DNC or as a freelancer?
James E. Powell
@Spatula:
Jill Stein is actually kind of awesome.
It’s not that hard to be awesome when the burdens of actually governing are not part of the package.
dslak
@Spatula: Well, let’s consider this: In the lead-up to the war, we can assume that Clinton was privy to estimates regarding Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs.
So why then did Clinton not contradict the Bush administration’s claims about those programs? If he believed the same as Powell did, and thereby facilitated an interventionist policy in Iraq, how is he any better than Powell? If he did not believe the same as Powell, but did not publicly repudiate the claims made by the Bush administration, doesn’t that make him worse?
Just curious where these uncrossable lines are.
amk
mittbot’s & meatloaf’s Epic Ohio Fail.
good gawd.
Spatula
@dslak:
I know where one of them is. It’s the one regarding Colin Powell and his endorsement, you know…the subject of this post.
Would you accept the endorsement of Dick Cheney?
Narcissus
@Spatula:
Tough titty for anybody who might be depending on a not-crazy supreme court, huh?
dslak
@Spatula: I’m sorry, but if we’re not supposed to discuss people who aren’t mentioned in the post, I’m afraid I can’t answer your question about Dick Cheney.
Once we’ve got the okay to discuss people other than Colin Powell however, let me know why the Clinton endorsement shouldn’t be repudiated, and then I can can tell you my response to a hypothetical Cheney endorsement of Obama.
dslak
@Narcissus: Or for anybody depending on the PPACA being properly administered rather than gutted by the executive branch.
freelancer
@amk:
Saw that at Rumproast. Didn’t make it all the way through until I clicked on your link. Sweet fucking Christ. I will lose faith in the internet if that doesn’t go viral by Sunday.
Just awful.
Spatula
@Narcissus:
Oh gosh no! I’m relying on the same Democratic Senate, which I am certain would stand united against any untoward persons nominated by the presidential robot.
Why, aren’t you certain of that?
Spatula
@dslak:
Fair enough.
So let’s go back to CP: You’re OK with the endorsement of GWB’s lackey/liar, whom he sent to the U.N. to do his dirty work regarding the Iraq War, as a result of which hundreds of thousands are dead and maimed, lives destroyed, and trillions wasted.
I am not OK with that.
And that’s where we stand.
dslak
@Spatula: Right, because repudiating endorsements by people who aid his re-election chances should be the prime focus of the Obama campaign. You’ve really crystallized this election down to its essence, and that is endorsements.
Yutsano
@Spatula: When she actually bothers to build a party apparatus and gets candidates in local, state, and Congressional elections, then I would take her seriously. Otherwise she’s nothing more than a vanity project.
My state will go Obama easily. I will vote for him to strengthen his mandate in the next two years. You vote on your feelings.
dslak
@Yutsano: I think it’s fine if he votes on his feelings. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for when those feelings finally result in a winning political coalition.
Spatula
@dslak:
Again: No standards/no principles. You’ve made your position clear. ALL that matters is the re election of Supreme Leader PBO.
All else is static. Got it.
Spatula
@Yutsano:
Spare me. Yutsano alone, among all voter humans, is free of the influence of those nasty feeeeeelings…even as he votes based on his feeling that doing so aids PBO’s mandate.
Got it.
dslak
@Spatula: And you’ve made yours clear: ALL that matters is erecting a straw man of your opponents’ positions.
All else is preening. Got it.
freelancer
@Spatula:
Easy to be absolutist and dissatisfied when you’re in a blue state fortress like Mass. As much as you hate Ben Nelson or say Bob Kerrey, being a Nebraska Democrat, he is what you are given as a Democrat, so you fucking vote for them because it’s not about what you want, it’s about voting as close to your principles as you can, and repudiating the principles of the other side.
In the last few months, there have been discussions by high profile people in uncontested states making principled stands about voting or abstaining from voting because they didn’t want to make a choice between “the lesser of two evils” cliche. The sane percentage of the commentariat on the web landed on the side of voting and engaging in democracy right up until the point has been reached where you feel morally compelled to take up arms against the government.
Yours seems to be the flip side to that. My state is safe, so I’m going to shit on everything that claims to represent my side because they aren’t addressing my niche concerns.
Fuck, spats. I know you claim to share misanthropic tendencies with Cole, and are disappointed by Democrats, but it’s baffling. Even purists like Cornell West and PZ Myers who regularly flame the party are going to hold their nose and pull the lever for Obama. Then they are going to make their voices heard.
As a lib who grew up in red states and lives in a probable red state/possible toss-up, your “Jill Stein rawks”, “safe protest vote in Massachusetts” bullshit sounds fucking stupid to everyone else in the country that doesn’t have the privilege of setting their ballot on fire in a whinging fit of pony-deficiency.
Give it a rest.
Citizen Alan
@Spatula:
Your game is stupid. You are stupid. This comment is stupid. You’re like a little kid asking who would win in a fight between Batman and Jesus except that the little kid isn’t as stupid as you are.
I mean shit, “If Dick Cheney were to endorse Obama, SHOULD he accept the endorsement?” is literally comparable to saying “If Obama ripped off his mask tomorrow and revealed that he was a brain-sucking alien from planet Zog, would you still vote for him?” That is literally the level of stupidity you just wrote. And I mean literally literally. Because I literally believe that the Planet Zog scenario is more plausible than Cheney endorsing Obama. Jesus H. Christ!
Narcissus
@Spatula: Better than PO but still rote, pro forma.
C+
Spatula
@freelancer:
Blow me, you self righteous dingle berry.
Are you really saying that even in a state that is going to go your way, and my vote for someone other than Obama will not deprive him of his god given right to inhabit the white house, that I STILL don’t have your permission to cast my vote as I see fit?
I spent most of my life as an unwilling hostage in the state of Kansas. Don’t lecture me; I’ll vote as I choose, and fuck off.
Your candidate does not OWN my vote. Haven’t you picked up on that?
Spatula
@Citizen Alan:
blah..blah…blah…and still no answer of course.
How can you plausibly pretend that Darth Cheney is such a beyond the pale monster, yet Colin Powell, the snake who did its monster master’s bidding in front of the U.N., is A-OK?
Could you explain that?
Thanks. I’ll wait.
dslak
@Spatula:
Shorter Spatula: “Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”
Spatula
@dslak:
Wow. You’re really pathetic.
dslak
Now you’ve done it: You’ve killed irony. I hope you’re happy with yourself.
El Cid
So Sununu likes Mitt because of Mitt’s Arabic ethnic background?
freelancer
@Spatula:
What I’m saying, if you choose to employ some reading comprehension is that we, all 330 million of us should be so lucky as to be able to have a realistic choice between Obama, Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, Al Gore, and Chomsky. You do. You can. That’s great. Bully for you, you lucky sumbitch.
Stop being a raging hemorrhoid for those who face definitive and stark choices like Romney vs Obama, or Brown vs. Mandel, or Flake vs. Carmona, Bob Kerrey vs Deb Fischer, Akin vs. McCaskill.
Am I self-righteous for telling you that your state may be sugar-gumdrop-fairyland and it’s capitol is the Big Rock Candy Mountain, but for the rest of the left, it isn’t?
I might be. But there are bigger choices in the fall of 2012 than the risk of the further enabling of the Democratic Party of the United States. That is the danger of the further empowerment of the conservative faction of the American electorate. And someone who chooses to ignore that and lecture everyone on them just to say “I told you so” at some unforeseen point in the future isn’t operating in good faith.
Vote for Stein, and that’s fine. Thinking that trolling a liberal website on how much Democratic candidates suck, and that that commentary will inspire readers to move to the more principled, liberal, progressive, alternative position or candidate? Twelve days before a national election?
You’re dreaming. Grow the fuck up.
amk
@freelancer: You’re arguing with a politically impotent idjit.
Citizen Alan
@Spatula:
Wait as long as you like, jerk-off. You’re pie’d.
freelancer
@amk:
He’s a good painter. Also, I don’t think he’s stupid, fwiw.
Mister Harvest
@Spatula:
You seem to be confusing your “principles” with your privileges and entitlement. This is not uncommon on the Too Pure For This Fallen World pseudo-left.
El Cid
On the plus side, I don’t think Obama nominated cheap careerist pathetic lying sack of shit war-promoting hack propagandist and My Lai cleaner-upper Colin Powell for anything.
Batocchio
I applaud Colin for standing with him.
He’s not his most snide delivering this, but damn, is that patronizing. Sununu has always been a bully and an asshole, but he’s hit new lows this campaign.
SFAW
@gex:
I’m OK with that, I should have thought of it. Thanks for covering my butt.
@amk:
Tempting, but it doesn’t really encapsulate That Nation’s ethos quite as well, because it’s still a bit of inside-baseball.
Unsympathetic
Colin Powell couldn’t vote for Obama because Powell actually believes Obama is better than Romney. In Sununu’s beautiful mind, Powell was Head of the Joint Chiefs because of affirmative action. As Sununu knows, black people don’t get anywhere without whitey to help them out!
SFAW
One of the bestest things in the whole entire world is waking up and seeing Spatula get on his/her self-righteous high horse, then tell myriad opponents to go fuck themselves (in more or fewer words).
What if Cheney endorses Obama? Right.
Why stop there? What if a resurrected Nathan Bedford Forrest endorsed Obama? What if a resurrected Joe McCarthy endorsed Obama? What if David Duke endorsed Obama? What if “Free Republic” endorsed Obama? What if Erick Ericksdottir endorsed Obama?
and so on and so forth.
What if that giant meteor hits tonight? What if dinosaurs rule the earth? And … what about Naomi?
I could probably come up with a shitload more hypotheticals that have zero chance of occurring, but I have a life beyond this joint. I would have said “but you (Spatula) get the point”, but I realize you (Spatula) won’t.
And your weaseling in and out of justifications for your purity would be charming, if it weren’t so pathetic.
Patricia Kayden
@General Stuck: Wow. I knew that he had the White male vote, but didn’t know it was that large of a gap..
Lurking Canadian
@aimai: They have cut off their own nose to spite their face, it seems. I have passed on the news. Mrs LC shares my shock and dismay and hopes you will return.
SFAW
@Batocchio:
Sorta like “Peak Wingnut”, in that every time we think they can’t get any “X”-ier, they prove us wrong.
SFAW
@Lurking Canadian: Not to betray my stupidity too much, but … “DWIL”?
I’m sure that, after you explain, I’ll have a facepalm moment or some such.
arguingwithsignposts
@SFAW: I’m not the only one who wonders what DWIL means. Whew.
SFAW
@arguingwithsignposts:
I am a walking, talking embodiment of the old adage: “There are no stupid questions, only stupid people what asks them.”
Well, I’m not walking and talking as I type this, but everything else is accurate.
SRW1
@robotswillstealyourjobs:
I can imagine it happening if they actually believe their own spin that Romney is surging and on Nov 3 their own internal polls cut that last straw. Having got nothing left to lose but frustration, the temptation could be just overwhelming.
Aimai
Thanks LC. It’s a bit like becoming a soviet era nonperson so quite freaky.
For the others it’s a website called ” dealing with the in laws and family of origin.”
SFAW
@Aimai:
Thanks for the explanation.
Sorry to hear about it, but if it’s any consolation, you’ll never be a non-person or shun-ee to me/us.
But what’s with the upper case in your name/nom?
arguingwithsignposts
@SFAW:
Unless she gets some of that UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH!
Lurking Canadian
@SFAW: Aimai lives two lives. We know her as a penetrating and witty political commentator. In her other life, she dispenses wise and sage advice to parents (mostly women) dealing with difficult situations with extended family.
In one of life’s funny coincidences, Mrs LC and I realized some time ago that each of us had encountered one of the two aimais, and that both personae lived in the same, apparently tireless, woman.
Lurking Canadian
@SFAW: Aimai lives two lives. We know her as a penetrating and witty political commentator. In her other life, she dispenses wise and sage advice to parents (mostly women) dealing with difficult situations with extended family.
In one of life’s funny coincidences, Mrs LC and I realized some time ago that each of us had encountered one of the two aimais, and that both personae lived in the same, apparently tireless, woman.
arguingwithsignposts
@SFAW:
Until/Unless she gets some of that UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH!
Lurking Canadian
@SFAW: Aimai lives two lives. We know her as a penetrating and witty political commentator. In her other life, she dispenses wise and sage advice to parents (mostly women) dealing with difficult situations with extended family.
In one of life’s funny coincidences, Mrs LC and I realized some time ago that each of us had encountered one of the two aimais, and that both personae lived in the same, apparently tireless, woman.
arguingwithsignposts
FYWP!
SFAW
@Lurking Canadian:
Thanks for the insight.
But, you didn’t have to post multiple times to make the point about “two lives,” I would have gotten it anyway.
Yes, I know it was just WP F’ing with your post.
gocart mozart
@Steve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Sununu
So, a Hispanic/Palestinian/Hamas-Loving/Jew-Hating anchor baby.*
As we all know, the anti-Jewish/anti-colonial gene is inherited from the father.
KXB
@J R in WV:
For an example of a Republican who actually dealt with black voters in a responsible way, I’d encourage you to watch Boardwalk Empire. The fictional Atlantic City treasurer Enoch “Nucky” Thompson is based on Enoch “Nucky” Johnson. Johnson was a Republican who actively assisted bootleggers during Prohibition. He had a reputation for courting the black vote in Atlantic City, which by some estimates was 15% of the city’s voting population. Many of these black people fled Jim Crow, and established their own independent businesses in Atlantic City. He made sure they got enough goodies (legal and otherwise) between elections, city contracts – you know, actually trying to win their vote. Black voters rewarded Thompson by consistently voting GOP in election after election.
Sad that you have to go to television to see such depictions now.
Spatula
@Citizen Alan:
Awww…you mad, bro?
Spatula
@freelancer:
Reading this, a number of our analysts issued sad, mordant chuckles…
BJ is not a liberal web site; BJ is an OBAMA FIRST LAST AND ALWAYS web site.
Spatula
@SFAW:
yeah yeah yeah…and yet, still no answer to my question, nor an explanation of why Cheney is beyond the pale, but the monster who did the monster’s bidding re the Iraq War is a groovy dude.
You’re quite stupid.
Brachiator
@TexasMango:
White male privilege is in terrible danger dontcha know?
Which privilege is that? The privilege to have plutocrats put a boot up their ass? The privilege to have neo-cons fire up another war to consume millions of lives?
It amazes me that the media, including progressive media, is either to lazy or stupid to have ever done much in the way of interviewing these morans to plumb the depths of their dissatisfaction with Obama and the Democrats.
@KXB:
Or not. Black people still largely supported the Republican Party in the 1920s and 1930s, so Enoch Johnson was not an exception to the political norm. In addition, blacks in Atlantic City had to accomodate themselves to forms of segregation very similar to the crap practiced in the South:
This takes nothing away from the excellecnce and complexity of Boardwalk Empire. And some of the production notes HBO provided to the series dealt honestly with the perisistence and expansion of racism against black people in Atlantic City.
Brachiator
@Spatula:
Ya got something to show that Powell knew that the evidence about WMDs, etc., was totally bogus and willingly joined in with Bush and Cheney’s little game?
What’s been published about the era indicates that Cheney and his little cabal within State and Defense deliberately played on Powell’s integrity at home and in the world. It’s also noteworthy that Cheney in interviews later shit on Powell and even Condoleeza Rice for not being loyal enough to the neocon cause.
And I will bet good money that you will falsely presume that this means that I am absolving Powell and Rice of responsibility for their role in Bush and Cheney’s murderous deceptions.
Spatula
@Brachiator:
Well, gee..it does kind of sound that way.
Jebediah
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
I got a picture of a piece of pie! I didn’t know the pie filter sometimes gives pictures!