Here’s a spot-free ladybug (I guess?) chowing down on some aphids.
Rock on, spotless ladybug! We’re having a monsoon here today. Makes me want to take a nap. What are y’all up to?
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aimai
Sturm and drang here with oldest daughter finally picking her college for next year and youngest daughter home with the croup. I would like to take a nap too but the barking from the younger one is preventing that. Must go out to get popsicles.
Just Some Fuckhead
Trying to get #Benghazi a project finished up #Benghazi before the end of the day so #Benghazi I don’t have to worry #Benghazi about it this weekend #Benghazi. Probably #Benghazi going to do a shrimp #Benghazi boil this weekend #Benghazi because someone posted #Benghazi a picture of #Benghazi a delicious looking one #Benghazi on Facebook earlier #Benghazi. Damn you Facebook #Benghazi!
satby
Cool gray day, so the lawn hasn’t dried out enough to mow from the last 2 days of rain. And it’s already ankle high. AND, I hate to mow anyway, so not sure if I’m happy I don’t have to today or sad at how much worse it will be when I can. One more potential frost may happen over the weekend, then it looks like clear sailing putting some veggies out in the garden. Maybe.
Origuy
Spotless ladybugs, it turns out, are a different genus from the spotted varieties. That is Cycloneda , probably C. munda. There are several genii (genuses?) of spotted ones.
Now the Latin scholars are going to jump in to tell me the correct inflection. Since back in the USENET days, the surest way to get responses to a post was to use Latin incorrectly.
raven
Things are winding down at UGA and the local schools. This time of year seems to come and go so quickly, the bike races last week, Human Rights Festival and a bazzilion parties next week and then the lemmings are gone for a couple of months!!
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@aimai:
Apparently a dose of cold air will clear croup up right quick, which may not be easy to do in early May. If you have AC, you may want to turn it on as cold as you can stand it.
schrodinger's cat
The current house I live in has an infestation of Japanese beetles in the cooler months, they look like ladybugs but they fly.
scav
@Origuy: Well, I clearly just haven’t hung around enough scholars of spotted v. non-spotted ladybugs of any genera (?) to contribute to the Latinist chum. Do you think we can organize a bit of self-propelling billiards with the existing teams? Are there, in fact, any striped options out there?
dmsilev
@Just Some Fuckhead: It looks like you have a bad case of Benghazi. If symptoms persist for more than two days, call your doctor. I’m told that there are drugs which can treat it (and those drugs are covered under Obamacare).
Fred Fnord
@schrodinger’s cat: Ladybugs fly. Indeed, they’re called ‘Ladybird Beetles’ in the UK. You’ve never heard the nursery rhyme, “Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home, your house is on fire, your children are gone”?
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: I thought Japanese beetles were those big, lumbering, iridescent critters that fly, but very poorly?
fidelio
@Origuy: Or maybe Cycloneda sanguinea? I am no beetle expert; I just have a google.
Just so you won’t miss the Latin criticism, the plural is “genera”, because it’s a wacked-out crazy form of a third declension neuter noun whose goal in life is to trip up the unwary by causing them to think it’s really in the second declension. Then it goes and hangs out with the other weird noun formations in their club house and they snicker a lot. Sometimes they have the irregular verbs over and play darts.
schrodinger's cat
@Fred Fnord: I had no idea! Japanese beetles are slightly paler than the red ladybugs.
BTW my thoughts on episode 6 of Cosmos.
Face
They’re non-Irish?
raven
This morning I went to brush my teeth and there was a stink bug on the brush!
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/brown_stink_bug_adult.jpg
Gin & Tonic
@Betty Cracker: Japanese beetles do not fly well, but they’re not an awful lot larger than ladybugs. And some of them are iridescent.
schrodinger's cat
@Betty Cracker: I googled Japanese beetles, that’s not the kind of beetles we have. They are tinier and paler version of the ladybugs. My neighbor who is studying to be a biologist called them Japanese beetles. I am no naturalist myself.
jeffreyw
If you’ve got it, flaunt it!
He’s just not our kind, Sally.
schrodinger's cat
@raven: eewww. Even the cats steer clear of them.
shelly
That’s a pretty little pepper plant.
Punchy
@Betty Cracker: You’re thinking of Volkswagen beetles.
fidelio
@scav: Here you are! Both more than you ever wanted to know about ladybugs, and a picture of a nifty striped one,
scav
@Punchy: Some of those have very sensitive declension pedals I hear and getting from second to third can be a little tricky.
Roger Moore
@Origuy:
Genera.
Schlemizel
My understanding is the Japanese ones around here were imported as “organic” bug control when really they are an invasive species. They also bite unlike our local ones.
Before the move to FLA our yard was a meeting place for real ‘Murican lady bugs. In fall we would get millions of them and it was really cool. We never had a problem with them coming inside but they would cover the West side of the house soaking up as much of the sun as they could. I learned what lady bug larva look like & that is even cooler. They look like black alligators with bright orange spots.
schrodinger's cat
The bugs we have are Asian Lady Beetles not Japanese beetles.
Anoniminous
You’d think, living in the desert & all, our local TeaBaggers would have some regard for the safety of the well water they drink. But … nope. Let’s FRACK! Fracking-r-good! Let’s pour a gazillion gallons of toxic crap into the water table!
And then drink it!
Morans. I’m surrounded by morans.
schrodinger's cat
@Schlemizel: They sometimes bite, but mainly they come inside for the warmth and die off, because they don’t have food.
BGinCHI
I don’t see anything in that photo that has to do with Benghazi, so I’m closing this comment down.
Amir Khalid
@Fred Fnord:
If I remember right, Penguin had an imprint for children’s books they called Ladybird. Those books were an important part of my early kidhood.
Bob In Portland
Reports of violent fighting in Odessa. Fascists setting fire to the trade union offices, maybe as many as 25 dead there, another four dead in the streets.
Which side are you on?
JGabriel
Betty Cracker @ Top:
That’s not a ladybug. It’s an ALIEN BODY SNATCHER SPORE! It infects the brain, completely rewrites your genetic code, and turns you into a far-right conservative!
Run! Run for lives!
Hungry Joe
Benghazi.
Now that that’s out of the way, on to the Bundy Buckaroos: “Intel on the Sitrep” will be the name of my band if I ever learn to play an instrument, and start one.
(Benghazi.)
West of the Rockies
It’s like the Sneetches all over again: spotted vs non-spotted!
Schlemizel
@Bob In Portland:
Joshua 5
13 And then this, while Joshua was there near Jericho: He looked up and saw right in front of him a man standing, holding his drawn sword. Joshua stepped up to him and said, “Whose side are you on—ours or our enemies’?”
14 He said, “Neither. I’m commander of God’s army. I’ve just arrived.” Joshua fell, face to the ground, and worshiped. He asked, “What orders does my Master have for his servant?”
15 God’s army commander ordered Joshua, “Take your sandals off your feet. The place you are standing is holy.”
scav
@fidelio: Oh. Seriously. There are backward beetles, black with red dots. This is going to be a fantastic league of bug billiards!
Pogonip
@Just Some Fuckhead: Benghazi?
JGabriel
@Bob In Portland:
I hate fascist nationalists, and I hate belligerent invaders. So I’m just gonna flip through the channels till I can find a team I like on a different playing field … probably in a different solar system, ’cause I am fucking sick of human beings.
Gin & Tonic
@Bob In Portland: Which side are *you* on? This one? When armed thugs attack a peaceful rally, they can’t guarantee that those attacked will remain peaceful.
Pogonip
@schrodinger’s cat: No, those aren’t Japanese beetles. Japanese beetles are big, clunky, iridescent green critters that smell awful. A trapful of them would gross out a skunk.
Schlemizel
@Gin & Tonic:
@JGabriel:
Bobby apparently wants to join the Marines & lead an invasion to repulse someone or something.
Bob In Portland
@Schlemizel: That didn’t answer the question. A shooting war has been provoked. That’s what the US has wanted. Do you support burning down union halls?
Schlemizel
@Bob In Portland:
Write me when you sign up, I will knit you some nice socks
BGinCHI
Benghazi.
Will settle for Obama is weak on Russia.
JGabriel
@Bob In Portland: And I’ll send you some old National Geographics. The ones with topless natives.
Bob In Portland
@Schlemizel: I served my time during the Vietnam War. I was against the war before, during and after my service. I continued to be against it when I worked in a VA Hospital after I got out of the army.
You want to make jokes about killing people you’re asking the wrong guy to laugh.
fidelio
@scav: There’s just no end to the crazy things those beetles will do.
JGabriel
Schlemizel: @Bob In Portland: Write me when you sign up, I will knit you some nice socks
beth
From the Newsmax article about the tattooed soldier suing the Army for $100 million:
Maybe this guy likes the idea of shooting people a little too much and the Army is doing us all a favor by implementing these new rules against large tattoos.
Long Tooth
Deep Thought: The last time the GOP miscalculated the horse-sense of the American people as egregiously as it has with Bengazi! Bengazi! Bengazi! is when Jeb prevailed on GW to cut short his vacation in order to butt in the business of the Schiavo family. Americans were both surprised and repulsed at the arrogance of that Executive action.
No sensible person is surprised, much less repulsed, about the flogging of the Bengazi! Bengazi! Bengazi! dead horse. Sensible people recognize the GOP’s odious dog and pony show for what it is. Incredibly however, the GOP itself remains blind to that glaringly obvious fact. That does not bode well for its future. The plummet of the national GOP towards transforming itself into the crater that is today’s California’s state republican party continues.
Pogonip
@schrodinger’s cat: Ah, the chihuahuas of the insect world. Vicious little bastards. I’ve had them land on me just to bite me and then fly away again. The beetles, not the chihuahuas.
Don’t swat them, they stain something awful. The beetles, that is. Not sure if chihuahuas stain or not.
Mnemosyne
@Bob In Portland:
I see you’re assuming that the voices in your head are telling you the truth again. Really, the US wants a shooting war in Ukraine? Russia was totally trying to avoid one, which is why they were secretly sending in Russian troops for the past two months?
Bob In Portland
@JGabriel: Your point? You want this war? You want killing? You got it. I’m surprised there’s even an acknowledgement of it.
Now you stand shoulder to shoulder with Kagan, Nuland, McCain. See how easy it was. Just keep your mouth shut and look the other way. Maybe you can march in the next parade for Stepan Bandera.
JGabriel
Schlemizel:
And I’ll send you some old National Geographics. The ones with topless natives.
Mnemosyne
@Bob In Portland:
By the way, Bob, where exactly did the pro-Russian demonstrators get weapons capable of shooting down helicopters? Did those little old Ukranian ladies you love so much build them in their garages out of soup and tea?
Schlemizel
@Bob In Portland:
Funny, I made my bones at that time too, I am unmoved. My response to you is the one you have earned. Since I have never seen you actually engage in a sincere debate I refuse to play the game. But if you must, please enlighten us all with exactly what you would do in this situation and exactly how that would work. Please try not being hysterical when replying and, if you are incapable of replying without insulting then feel free to continue screeching into the wind.
Larv
@Bob In Portland:
Yes, it’s the US and Ukrainians who have provoked this, not the Russians. Gotcha. It’s not like the Russians have been sending heavily armed militants into Ukraine or anything like that. The Ukrainians should just lie there and think of Mother Russia, no doubt.
BTW, Bob, aren’t you the guy who thinks HIV was created by the US govt to kill off the blacks and gays? Forgive me for not thinking much of your critical thinking skills.
BGinCHI
Keep Portland Weird.
Mnemosyne
@Bob In Portland:
Dude, you’re the one who’s been cheerleading for this war since the day Putin started sending troops in. Putin gave you what you want.
That finger you’re pointing at us? Three of them are pointing back at you, because you’ve been cheerleading Putin since Day One.
schrodinger's cat
@BGinCHI: Do we know that he is still in Portland?
Bob In Portland
@Mnemosyne: Mnem remember when the US sent five billion to the fascists? How was that money spent? Remember when the head of the CIA secretly visited Kiev and the first military attack by the army against the civilians happened the next day? Perhaps you remember Biden’s visit and the second military attack happening the next day?
How about all the times that Lavrov and Putin asked the west to negotiate with the people of eastern Ukraine?
I guess we can expect NATO troops soon. Who gets to shoot the old ladies with the soup ladles?
MaryRc
Ladybugs are the best!
JGabriel
@Bob In Portland:
My points are that I’m not the global supercop; I don’t think either side in the Ukraine conflict has clean hands at this point; and in any event I’m not in a position to do anything about it.
And unless you’re planning on enlisting, neither are you.
Gin & Tonic
@Bob In Portland: A shooting war has been provoked.
Please remind the class who used surface-to-air missiles to shoot down two Ukrainian military helicopters in Sloviansk yesterday.
Schlemizel
@Bob In Portland:
Whats the frequency Kenneth?
scav
Is the tough boy back giving us all the SitRep again? We’re so honored he could find the time. All that dis-info out there, wandering about without its minders.
Schlemizel
@Gin & Tonic:
YOU MADE ME HIT YOU!!!
BGinCHI
@schrodinger’s cat: A Portlandia of the mind.
Bob In Portland
@Larv: Larv, are these the heavily armed units based on the fake pictures which the NY Times admitted were fakes last week?
Meantime, are you for the fascists burning down the trade union hall in Odessa? Damned unions.
You are starting to look an awful lot like John McCann. Better do something hip this weekend to get some of that reactionary skank off you.
JPL
So NewsCorp is adding to its portfolio of classy companies. The News Corporation said on Friday that it would acquire Harlequin Enterprises, the publisher of bodice-ripper romance novels, for 454 million Canadian dollars, or $413 million, in cash from Torstar, the publisher of The Toronto Star. Will O’Reilly soon be on the cover of a romance novel.
also, must thank the NYTimes for the copy and paste
Schlemizel
@Blob In Portland:
Larv has reactionary skanks? – Larv you sly ol dog!
BGinCHI
@JPL: They won’t even have to train the new writing staff.
Baud
Benghazi is to the GOP as Hodor is to the GoT.
BGinCHI
What is the color of the boathouse at Hereford?
Mnemosyne
@Bob In Portland:
I remember you linked to a crazy conspiracy theory website that made that claim. However, that does not make it a fact.
Yes, a secret trip that was widely reported in the press. You’re not very clear on the meaning of “secret,” are you?
Also, I find it fascinating that you classify Russian soldiers as “civilians.” I guess they were just stopping by on vacation and got accidentally caught up in events, right?
You wanted Putin to do this, and now you got what you wanted. Why are you trying to blame everyone else for what your guy did?
Bob In Portland
@Schlemizel: They called the people who objected to the Nazis’ rise to power as “alarmists”. Meanwhile, the Nazis applied the salami tactic, a little slice at a time.
I know that I bring on criticism if I cite the Nazis, but the coup government in Kiev has people who have marched in celebration of the Nazis of the 14th Waffen SS, who hunted and killed ethnic Poles, Russians and Jews during the war. These people are racists.
So maybe you should be trying to find out what the frequency is. Whatever it is, the NSA is probably listening in. Maybe you didn’t notice that happening either.
raven
@Bob In Portland: You’re a sanctimonious motherfucker aren’t you? Your shit makes me weary.
Mnemosyne
@Gin & Tonic:
See, there you go, trying to confused Bob with your “facts” again.
scav
“When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles
and the bottle’s on a poodle and the poodle’s eating noodles…
…they call this a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle
bottle paddle battle.”
Schlemizel
@Mnemosyne:
I notice he also is avoiding my request for an explanation of what we here at BJ should be doing right now in order to get this reactionary skank(sic) off us.
Mike in NC
Last summer we saw for the first time what are called Kudzu Bugs. Pale brown with black spots. The size of Ladybugs but with a slightly square body. Introduced from Asia a few years ago and now spreading around the US as they have no natural predators.
raven
@Schlemizel: Get on a plane to Ukraine and give us a sitrep!
Villago Delenda Est
Oh, this is rich. Noisemax headline:
Tattooed Soldier Suing Army for $100 Million
This is going absolutely nowhere. If this idiot wanted to be in the SF, he should NEVER have tattooed himself like that.
I swear, these kids nowadays…
Schlemizel
@Blob In Portland:
I asked you this a couple weeks ago and you never answered but your frothing hysteria seems familiar so I have to ask again:
Are you now, or have you ever been, a brick oven?
If you want reasonable responses turn down the hysteria, turn off the tin-foil BS and present your case.
Mnemosyne
@Schlemizel:
I’m trying to figure out how Obama’s call for more economic sanctions magically became armed troops in Bob’s head, but I think I’ll have to hit myself in the head with this ball-peen hammer a few dozen more times to really get it.
raven
@Mike in NC: They seriously knocked back the kudzu in our yard. They were so thick on the fig tree branches you could not see the wood!
Schlemizel
@raven:
I will if I can take a reactionary skank with me.
EDIT: SIR! Sorry, sir, I forgot to add “Roger Alpha Bravo Tango over and out” sir!
Villago Delenda Est
@Bob In Portland: So the solution to the fascists in the Ukraine is to support fascists in Russia?
You are really a dumbass, did you know that?
Larv
@Bob In Portland:
No, these are the heavily armed units which had the wherewithal to shoot down two military helicopters in Slovyansk. One might be luck, two is pretty good evidence of non-civilian weaponry and/or training.
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: HODOR!
Or, in South Park speak: TIMMEH!
raven
@Larv: Not that much to shootin down a chopper these days.
Bob In Portland
@raven: Sorry if I harshed your buzz. America is starting a war in Ukraine. Did those marchers against invading Iraq harsh your buzz back in 2002? How about the people who talked about the death squads in El Salvador? While the FBI was dumpster diving in my union’s trash in the 80s you probably had no worries about government spying, did you? So maybe you take pause when the fascists burn up a trade union hall in Odessa, but maybe they had it coming and you don’t belong to a union, and what playoff games are on TV tonight? What a bummer these people are. How about the Gulf of Tonkin? Were you around for that one? How about Lumumba in the car trunk? How about Chile? Argentina? Bolivia?
I’m a sanctimonious motherfucker because I don’t want another war, eh? What does that make you?
Mnemosyne
@raven:
Not that much for someone with military-grade weaponry, but I’m pretty sure I can’t stand in my backyard and do it with a shotgun.
Schlemizel
@raven:
Like my daddy always said “You never know what you can do until you try. I never thought I could shoot down a German plane until I tried. The folks at Lufthansa are still pretty pissed at me though.”
Mnemosyne
@Bob In Portland:
Of course you wanted this war, Bob. You’ve been cheering the Russians on since Day One and making every excuse in the book for them. You love this war. You own it.
This war is your baby. No fair trying to pawn it off on other people because it turned out to be uglier than you thought it would be.
Bob In Portland
@Villago Delenda Est: The solution is to sit down and negotiate the rights of the ethnic minorities.
Are you against negotiating? Against ethnic minorities? Or maybe you’re for ethnic minorities here by not there?
You can’t help but resort to ad hominems, can you? Remember the villages in Vietnam that were destroyed to save them? Or don’t you even understand what your name means anymore?
Villago Delenda Est
@Long Tooth: It’s fortunate that they’re too blinded by all that BENGHAZI! to heed your words, because they are in a headlong rush to become the Whigs of the 21st century.
raven
@Bob In Portland: YOU make me not give a fuck fucking troll asshole..
Villago Delenda Est
@Bob In Portland: Oh, by “negoitate the rights of ethnic minorities” you mean give the Russian nationals everything they want?
You’ve committed yourself to being a patsy for the Russian fascists. You’ve made your disgusting bed, now lie in it, dumbshit.
You’re beneath contempt.
Bob In Portland
@Mnemosyne: Stop it right now. Stop the shooting. Sit down and negotiate. That’s what I want. I want protection for the ethnic minorities and I want people to finally understand fascism. I know, good luck for you. You’re all on board. All you have to do is keep your mouth shut, like every other time.
If Kiev is unable to negotiate, then let Merkel negotiate. Germany doesn’t want this war, the US does.
Your tax dollars, maybe your little brother’s blood, all for oil profits.
Roger Moore
Please, everyone. Trolls that receive handouts may become dependent on them and my lose the ability to find their own food. Worse, they may begin to associate people with food and become aggressive in attempts to get it. A fed troll is a dead troll. Do not feed the mother fucking trolls!
Schlemizel
@Blob from Portland:
No dip shit, you are a sanctimonious mother fucker because you stomp & scream – incoherently for the most part – around here for no apparent reason tell us we are all scum covered in reactionary skank(sic). When asked to provide evidence of your most ridiculous claims you insult and demean and only occasionally provide links. Links that tend to got to tin foil hat sites with unsupported drivel.
sanctimonious:
adjective:
making a show of being morally superior to other people.
While I am unsure of your carnal knowledge of your maternal unit I will give raven a pass as its more common meaning fits in your case.
You still have not responded to my request for your solution and its outcome.
Belafon
@Bob In Portland: I couldn’t care less about Odessa. Hopefully, they’ll take Midland, and the rest of the Permian basin, with them. I hated watching my high school play their football team in the 80s.
Bob In Portland
@Villago Delenda Est: The eastern Ukraine voted Yanukovich into office. Now their votes don’t count.
What do the eastern Ukrainians want? They don’t want to be absorbed into the Soviet Union, but they want a federation that protects them from the fascists in Kiev. Anything wrong with that?
No giving anything. Negotiations. You probably haven’t seen any calls for negotiations in your corner of the media, have you?
Betty Cracker
@Bob In Portland:
Self-aware much?
Villago Delenda Est
You know, if the Russians stop being imperialist assholes who insist on shooting before talking, then we could talk. But you see, they won’t get their way 100%, so they start shooting.
So we have the situation we have now…with Russians aggressively using violence to get their way.
They’re a lot like Cliven Bundy and the militia clowns.
Pogonip
@Mike in NC: Same as with brown marmorated stink bugs. My cousin in Pennsylvania gets those by the thousands on the ceilings and walls every fall. They don’t bother anything, they’re just hibernating, and in the spring they wake up and leave, but it’s annoying to have them there all winter.
Downpuppy
@Fred Fnord: In Oklahoma, that rhyme is “Doodlebug, fly away home”
Doodlebugs dig large funnel shaped holes in sandy ground which kids fill in while chanting the rhyme, in hopes of making the bug emerge.
It never does – but it turns out they’re real :
Downpuppy
Link fail – http://www.whatsthatbug.com/2005/05/12/doodle-bug/
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Anybody ever heard of a North Carolina Cataloochee hound? I saw a guy walking a smart looking dog unlike any I’d ever seen before, and he told me it was a North Carolina Cataloochee hound. I’d never heard of them before. I thought that if there were anywhere I could ask where somebody knows anything about them, this would be it.
SatanicPanic
@Roger Moore: Seconded.
Villago Delenda Est
@Schlemizel: Do not use “over and out” on one of MY radiotelephone networks.
Your battalion Signal Officer.
catclub
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I have heard of Catahoula hounds. At least in books.
Betty Cracker
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Never heard of it. What did it look like?
Bob In Portland
@Schlemizel: You’re right. You don’t understand any of what I’m saying. When I complained about government spying thirty years ago you just thought I was a loudmouth. And what was the crap I was moaning about death squads? When I marched against the war in Vietnam you were all aboard with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. Right? What was your position when we got the weapons of mass destruction story? I’d like to think that you had one, but you probably shrugged your shoulders and said, “It’s not my problem.” How many years did it take until you figured out that we didn’t invade Afghanistan to catch Osama? Or have you? Do you still believe that the Syrian government did the poison gas thing last year?
It must really bother you that someone challenges you to get out from behind the curve. You just stay there and hide. It’s safe there for intellectual cowards.
beth
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I knew someone who had something called a Plott Hound which had something to do with North Carolina. Could that be it?
Bob In Portland
@Villago Delenda Est: Because they want to speak Russian?
Belafon
@Bob In Portland:
I realize this blog likes to joke about being up for a long time, but that wasn’t real.
Larv
@Bob In Portland:
Okay, that’s right up there in the running with the ridiculous HIV conspiracy theory for the stupidest thing you’ve ever said here. It takes some serious fucking contortions to conclude that the US is more to blame than Russia for this. Try getting your news from something other than Russia Today, maybe.
Protection from what, exactly? Was the Ukrainian gov’t killing ethnic Russians before they started taking over government buildings and agitating for Russian intervention? No government in the world is going to sit quietly for sedition like that, be they communist, fascist, democratic, or whatever.
scav
@Villago Delenda Est: Uh oh. There are a few of us who’ve been using oo as a final signoff while chatting. How much below shangheid private will you bust me to?
Trollhattan
@Bob In Portland:
Fascist helicopters repressing Patriotic, Freedom loving ground-to-air missiles by occupying the same space in the air, also, too! Bastards.
Applejinx
This is pretty nuts: http://pastebin.com/qh6Tta3h
I find it very plausible from what I’ve heard out there. The funny thing is I have a bunch of old music industry friends who HATE Google and the whole anti-copyright brigade and act very tinfoil hat about it all. Their idea (shared by Jason Lanier) is that it’s ridiculous to abandon all hope of earning a living but what you get from hosting advertising. The ‘google world’ of ‘all content is FREEEEE so host advertising to be paid’.
It does seem particularly bullshit if Google is actively going to conspire to not pay people the money they are owed FROM hosting advertising :P
Meet the new boss. Yikes! That is literally no different from the excesses of the music biz.
tesslibrarian
@fidelio: I enjoyed this comment more than is reasonable.
hilts
In case anyone didn’t know,
Boehner to Establish Select Committee on Benghazi
“Four Americans died at the hands of terrorists nearly 20 months ago, and we are still missing answers, accountability, and justice. It’s time that change.”
http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/boehner-establish-select-committee-benghazi
Fuck You Boehner
BGinCHI
Benghazi or it’s crap.
Roger Moore
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
They’re not listed by the AKC, but AKC does mention the Catahoula Leopard Dog that @catclub mentioned.
Epicurus
@Betty Cracker: Isn’t that a rhetorical question? Res ipso loquitur and all that…
Bob In Portland
Thirty-eight now reported dead in the fire at the union trade hall set by the fascists in Odessa. Reports are the bully boys were bused in from Kiev.
Those damned unions. They’re so violent when they jump out windows and smash on the pavement.
Smell the smoke? This is your side doing the killing. Enjoy it. Or just have a nice weekend. Generally the MSM cuts out when the fascists start killing. That’s what they did with the death squads.
Pogonip
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Was it splashed with different colors and had at least one blue eye? If so, it was a Catahoula Louisiana Leopard Dog. Mark Derr writes about them frequently.
Roger Moore
@scav:
I’ll agree that you shouldn’t use it. “Over” means your statement is over and it’s the other guy’s turn to talk. “Out” means the conversation is over and you’re switching off. It doesn’t make sense to combine the two.
Bob In Portland
@Trollhattan: Troll, you standing shoulder to shoulder with neo-Nazis who just killed 38 union members in Odessa, or maybe you didn’t get the story in your local newspaper?
Don’t you understand that this is what the Kochs want?
The Kiev coup government cannot continue in power without the west intervening immediately. Ready for more blood to be spilled?
Belafon
@hilts:
Roger Moore
@Trollhattan:
I bet those Fascist helicopters are not laughing.
SatanicPanic
@hilts: Prediction- America will continue to not care. I know, I’m a regular Nostradamus
Pogonip
Whoever thought BIP might be Brick Oven Bill: I don’t think so. Bill tended towards weird non sequiturs, not raving fury on one particular topic. In any case, I suggest not feeding the trolls with anything but “Hodor!”
scav
@Roger Moore: Oh dear, and it’s become quite the little leitmotif of the interactions. Calling rewrite. Onward Oriented? Outward Orangoutang? Omnibus Option?
Larv
@Bob In Portland:
Okay, you’re going to have to spell this one out for those of us who aren’t tuned in to the conspiracy theory channel (or Russia Today). I can’t stand the Kochs, but why exactly to they want a war in Ukraine? It seems to me that the person who stands to gain the most is named Putin, not Koch.
Roger Moore
@scav:
Omnes Omnibus?
Gin & Tonic
@Bob In Portland: Hey Bob, I’ve got a short memory, can you provide me a link where you displayed your concern after 40+ people died when Yanukovych’s police set fire to the Trade Union building in Kiev on February 18?
Bob In Portland
@Larv: From what just happened in Odessa, Larv. 38 dead. You down with that? Can’t I even get one “Yeah, well, I dig their uniforms but maybe they shouldn’t burn people alive.”
Pathetic.
Bostondreams
@Bob In Portland:
Yes, because Russian hands are so clean.
Quaker in a Basement
Aiiieee! Mutant!
scav
@Roger Moore: Indeed. Would it be entirely kind to use that as a signal that the conversation is definitively over?
Chris T.
New (?) joke: “I was driving the other day when my car quit on me. I called for help and the Republicans told me to remove all the regulators!”
Trollhattan
@Bob In Portland:
If a troll calls somebody a troll, is that a double-trolling or do they cancel out? I’m not sure….
Your pony: it needs trick #2.
Trollhattan
@Pogonip:
Hodor! Hodor! Hodor!
Larv
@Pogonip:
Yeah, Bob’s been around here for a long time, longer than BOB. He used to go by Bob in Pacifica. I recommend this thread from back in 2006 for anyone who wants to get a feel for Bob’s willingness to believe arrant nonsense and his love of ridiculous conspiracy theories. They’re both kooks, but at least BOB was an entertaining kook. Bob’s just fucking nuts.
Belafon
@Larv: Wait until he tells you that George Soros is funneling money to the Kochs that is to be spent only in Ukraine.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Bob In Portland: Don’t give a shit, it’s not my country. Let them hash it out and we can buy oil from the winner. Don’t give a shit who that ends up being, either.
Bob In Portland
@Gin & Tonic: Since you got your reports from the Pravy Sektor you can probably answer you own question. It’s like those photos of the Russians that the NY Times disavowed last week, right? It’s like the CIA denials of Brennan’s secret visit to Kiev, right?
So you are saying that burning 38 people alive is cool because maybe Yanukovich did the same, although your sources have continually been lying to you? Except that this time it’s true.
Gin, share with us how the hell you learned to speak Ukrainian. Was Spanish too challenging. Or maybe your school stopped teaching Latin.
You can’t even say you are against burning up people. Sad. That’s what nationalism does to you, and you’ve apparently been raised with it by Nazi residua.
Bob In Portland
@CONGRATULATIONS!: Didn’t give a shit about Iraq and Afghanistan? Don’t give a shit about the cost to America?
Good. Have a great weekend.
Chris T.
@Origuy: Or, more generally, just make any claim that’s wrong.
Ask “what’s the right way to spell supercalifragialistic” and get no answer; write “it’s suppercalafragelistic” and you get flooded with corrections.
https://xkcd.com/386/
Trollhattan
Wow, had no idea this was the latest gun-fondlers’ hobby. Sickening.
http://wonkette.com/548155/you-should-listen-to-this-responsible-gun-owner-murder-these-teenagers-even-though-you-do-not-want-to#more-548155
Pogonip
@Trollhattan: Hodor?
fidelio
@tesslibrarian: *bows*
SatanicPanic
@Trollhattan: uh, that was horrible. Just terrible. What an awful person.
Jebediah, RBG
@catclub:
I’ve got one. She looks like this and this.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Larv: Miss the guy. His blatant racism and misogyny, which was frequently hilarious in spite of itself, really bought the best out of the rest of the commenters.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@Bob In Portland: Not even a little.
I will have a fantastic weekend! You make sure to have one too.
fidelio
@Roger Moore: I have concuded it might as well be performance art, and I grade it accordingly.
Jebediah, RBG
Raven – if you are still in this thread – thanks for the dog-stealing-gloves vid from a previous thread. It was a hoot!
I didn’t get to it till the thread was dead, so didn’t reply there.
Cacti
@Bob In Portland:
Do you support burning down union halls?
That’s a funny question from someone who approves of kidnapping journalists.
Betty Cracker
@Trollhattan: What a sick, twisted fuck. I’m glad he got convicted. It’s fitting he was done in by his own audio. Chances are if he could have restrained from gloating, he would have gotten away with it.
Trollhattan
@CONGRATULATIONS!:
Confess to being amused right up to his stalking anecdotes, which cast him in a very different light.
The breezy “Off to meet with our Glenn Beck group” signoffs after cutting and pasting some supposed Aristotle always cracked me up. These people really do manage to find one another.
Trollhattan
@Pogonip:
Hodor!
Gin & Tonic
@Bob In Portland: I never said it was cool, and you know it. It’s a horrible outcome, just as was the outcome of the torching of the Trade Union building in Kiev, which I know the truth of because I know people who worked in medical crews in that building (it was a de facto field hospital) and in a nearby hospital.
I find your selective outrage sad. 80+ people died in Kiev February 20 and not a word out of you; on the contrary, you were gleeful.
I’m done. My apologies to the rest on this thread.
Cacti
Some prominent features of the Russian Federation:
Authoritarian, centered around a strongman leader, hyper-nationalist, militaristic, and believes it has the right to acquire territory by displacing smaller nations.
In what type of State are these attributes commonly found?
An anti-fascist one if you live in bizzaro world.
Cacti
@Gin & Tonic:
I find your selective outrage sad. 80+ people died in Kiev February 20 and not a word out of you; on the contrary, you were gleeful.
Yesterday BIP was defending the abduction of journalists, because the anti-fascists just wanted them for “prisoner exchanges”.
Trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Am hoping the APA begins researching whether gun acquisition can be correlated with mental illness. I’m the wrong one to do the research–I already “know” the answer.
HRA
@Amir Khalid:
Would you believe I have been cataloging Ladybird books yesterday and today for our library? It is true. They were donated as gifts.
hilts
@Belafon:
This committee will go down as Boehner’s biggest boner
Bob In Portland
@Cacti: Okay, Cacti, which journalists are you talking about? Are you talking about the two guys from VICE? They were freed a week ago.
No, I don’t condone taking journalists hostage, even if they are only spewing out the Company line. But considering that these people in the east are supposed to be “terrorists” why would you go into terrorists’ territory? How would the terrorists confirm that they were merely journalists? Because the US never uses journalists to spy for them?
Like I said, since the two guys from VICE had already been gone a week when you asked the question, I presumed you meant the bus full of NATO officers behind the line.
So who are the reporters you’re talking about? Any names, where were they captured, who acknowledged their capture?
While you’re working on that your side just burned 38 people alive.
Bob In Portland
@Cacti: What’s the country that listens in to everyone’s phone call and reads everyone’s internet? What country did away with trials for accused “terrorists”? (Yes, I know the 38 people, er, terrorists, in Odessa didn’t get trials either.) What country invaded Iraq on a lie? What country has supported death squads around the world. What country lied our way into a million deaths in Vietnam? Whose State Department said, “We just wrote the lists” for the mass murder in Indonesia in 1965? Who supported the generals in Argentina when there were all those disappeareds?
So, really, we’re just arguing about which oligarchy you support, right? Go team go!
raven
@Jebediah, RBG: Yea, pretty funny wasn’t it!
Bob In Portland
@Gin & Tonic: You’re done. I’ve been asking you for weeks how you chose to learn how to speak Ukrainian and you never say. Did your grandfather or father come here with the Nazi residua after WWII, like how Hans von Spakovsky’s folks came over?
Oh, that’s right. You’re done. But your fascist friends in Ukraine aren’t done. There will be more blood before your idealized country is bankrupt and ruined. And the best part is you will still blame the Russians when you were played. Scoot along.
raven
@Bob In Portland: What are you a jack russell or what? Go away.
raven
@Bob In Portland: Three million shit head, get your numbers straight.
Cacti
@Bob In Portland:
Okay, Cacti, which journalists are you talking about? Are you talking about the two guys from VICE? They were freed a week ago.
You really should read something other than official Kremlin sources:
Irma Krat, abducted on April 20, last seen on a video released by her captors on the Russian internet channel Life News.
Yevhen Hapych, abducted on April 22 near Artemivsk. According to separatist spokesperson Stella Khoraeva, he was kidnapping was because of his “incorrect way” of reporting events in eastern Ukraine.
As far as the “how did they no they were journalists” fig leaf, you have the example above, as well as the fact that the Vice camerman had his AV equipment vandalized while he was recording a demonstration.
A Belarussian, French, and Italian journalist were also forcibly detained and had their AV equipment and identity documents seized by separatist forces.
Also disappeared without a trace on April 16 was journalist Serhiy Lefter.
But considering that these people in the east are supposed to be “terrorists” why would you go into terrorists’ territory?
A pitiful variation of the “why was she wearing that short skirt argument”. Journalists cover stories in dangerous locations all the time.
Larv
@Bob In Portland:
Well, it’s a good thing that the Russian government has never done anything bad in the last 60 years, or else your riposte would look pretty silly. I mean, the Russians are famous for their fair and lenient treatment of accused terrorists, right? Chechnya, you say? Never heard of it.
Omnes Omnibus
@BGinCHI:
Nice. Also, a movie in which Sean Bean doesn’t die.
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est: Wilco, over.
Pogonip
@Omnes Omnibus: A movie in which Sean Bean doesn’t die? Inconceivable!
SiubhanDuinne
@BGinCHI:
Quelle est la couleur de la remise à Hereford?
Thanks for the fun new exercise! Makes a nice change from La plume de ma tante…
Long Tooth
@Villago Delenda Est: Right. Used to be a day (and not all that long ago, either) when republican powers didn’t really swallow the bullshit they fed their T-Bagging crowds of yore, and dealt accordingly. Those days are long gone, never to return. That party hasn’t simply jumped the tracks, it took a header off a cliff and is laughing maniacally as it approaches the jagged rocks below.
Pogonip
@Betty Cracker: I agree. People don’t like burglars, but they don’t like gloaters either. Had he adopted a more socially acceptable “more in sorrow than in anger” tone he would probably have got off with probation.
Jackie
@Pogonip: Speaking of skunks… It is now officially Spring in SE Washington St. Smelled skunk tonight. Very fresh skunk. GAG! And my daughter actually LIKES the smell. Bleech.