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You are here: Home / Politics / Activist Judges! / Thursday Evening Open Thread: The Notorious R.B.G. Owns It

Thursday Evening Open Thread: The Notorious R.B.G. Owns It

by Anne Laurie|  July 31, 20148:11 pm| 83 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, Excellent Links, Open Threads, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

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“I certainly respect the belief of the Hobby Lobby owners,” she said. “On the other hand, they have no constitutional right to foist that belief on the hundreds and hundreds of women” who work for them.

Via NYMag:

It took her 17 years after his death, but 81-year-old Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is finally aware of the Notorious B.I.G. Ginsburg’s law clerks informed her after first showing her the “Notorious RBG” Tumblr that was created in the summer of 2013. Ginsburg revealed this and other fun facts in an interview with Katie Couric that touched on her women-hating male colleagues, her longevity on the court, and, most important, her new awareness of the Brooklyn hip-hop legend and her own meme-ification.

“I will admit I had to be told by my law clerks, what’s this Notorious,” Ginsburg said, phrasing that sentence in the most perfect way imaginable…

Complete video of Couric’s interview at the Yahoo link.
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Apart from celebrating wisdom when we can find it, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    BGinCHI

    July 31, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Heard the TV critic on Fresh Air today highly recommend “The Honorable Woman” on Sundance, premiering tonight (BBC co-production). It has Maggie Gyllenhall, who I don’t care for, but it sounds t-riffic.

    About the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so timely as well.

  2. 2.

    the Conster

    July 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Rectify is a great show too. I don’t get Sundance so I could only watch S1 on Netflix, but I’m really sorely tempted to order it.

  3. 3.

    tsquared2001

    July 31, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    I am listening to Salt-N-Pepa and laughing my ass off over the RBG tumblr. I could share that tumblr with nearly everyone I know and nary a one would get what I find so funny.

  4. 4.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Testing.

    FUCK FUCK FUCK.

  5. 5.

    Karen in GA

    July 31, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Took Iggy for a walk. He met neighbors. It went about as well as one could expect.

  6. 6.

    Karen in GA

    July 31, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: UM…. IT FUCKING WORKED?

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Okay, test went through. Imma try this one more time.

    Met Opera is about to lock out its unions (crafts persons, stagehands, orchestra, chorus, box office, many more.)

    Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a huge opera fan.

    I propose that she be brought in to mediate the talks.

  8. 8.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: MoDo wrote a column about it, most of it went over my head, though.

  9. 9.

    Mandalay

    July 31, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Your fuckometer appears to be in fine working order.

  10. 10.

    Anne Laurie

    July 31, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: “Little Nino” Scalia is also a big opera fan, IIRC. But if he’s brought in to mediate, the Met probably ends up as an overpriced parking structure, paid for by the city, all profits to David Koch.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    July 31, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Gyad, I didn’t think it was possible to love her more until I saw that! May she live in excellent health for a thousand years more.

    And screw anyone who wants her to retire so Obama can appoint a successor. As if those nihilistic fucks in congress would approve anyone to the left of Joe Lieberman — even of we had 8 justices until 2020 and beyond!

    Nope. The Notorious RBG has earned the right to retire whenever she damn well pleases.

  12. 12.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Does anyone know what exactly is happening with the immigration bill in the House.

  13. 13.

    Cervantes

    July 31, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Not John Boehner, that’s for sure.

  14. 14.

    Mike J

    July 31, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    I’m sure her spirit will smile down on us when she dies one year into Rick Santorum’s presidency and he gets to appoint her successor.

  15. 15.

    JPL

    July 31, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: hahaha… Call Senator Cruz’s office and ask.

  16. 16.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    @JPL: I can’t believe that they are following Crazy Cruz off the cliff, again.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    True, and made that very observation in my first comment, which FYWP gobbled right up.

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Yeah, I saw MoDo’s column. It was basically a tongue bath of Met general manager Peter Gelb. Worth clicking for the comments, though.

  18. 18.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Just finished making a gazillion Vietnamese spring rolls and all the dipping sauces. It took about 20.3 times as long to make them as it did to eat them. Time to relax a bit and watch the Notorious RBG

  19. 19.

    JPL

    July 31, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: There is no downside to their antics. The President gets blamed for the border crisis and the lack of road repairs. They get reelected.

  20. 20.

    Helen

    July 31, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    @Cervantes:

    ROFL. Thanks for the laugh

  21. 21.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    It’s interesting, as far apart as they are on pretty much every legal/judicial issue and every political stance, they are soul mates when it comes to opera.

    Music hath charms, that’s for damn skippy.

  22. 22.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    @JPL: I am not so sure about that. They are pandering to their ever shrinking base, that is not a winning recipe.

  23. 23.

    Mandalay

    July 31, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a huge opera fan. I propose that she be brought in to mediate the talks.

    It would be nice if she could mediate on this as well, though I doubt if she is a huge Chris Christie fan:

    More than a dozen public-worker unions have updated their lawsuits aiming to stop Gov. Chris Christie from slashing scheduled payments to New Jersey’s pension system for government employees.

    And what did lying asshole Christie say about cutting pensions when he was running for governor?

    Your pension will be protected when I am elected Governor…I will protect your pensions. Nothing about your pension is going to change when I am governor.

    “Honest” Christ Christie for the Republican nomination in 2016!!!

    Please.

  24. 24.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I figured out the outline but my eyes glazed over the details.

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Celebrating Wisdom.

  26. 26.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    More seriously, this whole thing with the Met, from jump, has smacked of union-busting. Koch Brothers’ fingerprints all over the place.

  27. 27.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I’ve been following it all rather obsessively, but then I’ve been to almost every Met Live in HD transmission in the past seven years and was all signed up to be a “Met Ambassador” in Atlanta during the coming season. And as a former performing arts manager, I take this stuff kind of personally.

  28. 28.

    Cervantes

    July 31, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    they are soul mates when it comes to opera.

    Not sure. One of her favorites is Robert Kurka’s “The Good Soldier Schweik.”

  29. 29.

    Karen in GA

    July 31, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: For the same reason I don’t hang out with 14 year old girls, I avoid MoDo. Are you saying I might as well continue to do so?

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    July 31, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I can’t believe that they are following Crazy Cruz off the cliff, again.

    A lemming’s gotta do what a lemming’s gotta do.

  31. 31.

    Betty Cracker

    July 31, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    @Mike J: Unless you’re kidding, that’s a very stupid comment. Number one, Rick Santorum will never be president. Never. If I’m wrong, I’ll pledge a $100 dollar donation to the charity of your choice right now, payable upon Santorum’s swearing in, even if your charity of choice is something lame.

    Number two, what glorious successor do you think Obama could nominate that the nihilistic pricks in Congress wouldn’t reject? We’re talking about the suicide bomber Congress here. They’d reject Evan Bayh for being a commie. It would be unbelievably stupid to push a liberal treasure off the bench in favor of an empty slot. RBG knows what’s what. I trust her to make the right call.

  32. 32.

    Roger Moore

    July 31, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    They are pandering to their ever shrinking base, that is not a winning recipe.

    In the long term. In the short term, it can be a winning strategy, which is why they keep going back to it.

  33. 33.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @Karen in GA:

    Yes, I think you’re making a wise decision. I saw the MoDo column only because someone sent me the link, otherwise I would never have bothered. And now, of course, I wish I hadn’t.

  34. 34.

    raven

    July 31, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Just went to a goodbye party for a fresh new professor and her hubby. They are on their way to Morgantown and moving into a house that Cole knows. The peril of a college town is that really good folks are always moving on.

  35. 35.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Ah, there you are! I was just wondering what your take was on the Met situation. I’ve been hanging out much of the day on a private FB site dedicated to Met Opera discussion, so it likely seems to me a much bigger story than it really is. But given your own background in music, I thought you might have a useful perspective.

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    @efgoldman:

    :: wanders off innocently whistling the Ride of the Valkyries ::

  37. 37.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 31, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    @Roger Moore: Its not paying any dividends at the national level, even right now.

  38. 38.

    Cervantes

    July 31, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    @Roger Moore: Unfair comparison.

  39. 39.

    lamh36

    July 31, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Ugh, stupid Ted Cruz’s stupid spokeperson just now on twitter:

    @amandacarpenter
    Thinking back this week on things Cruz has worked on: Israel, border crisis, Internet taxes, NSA, FAA. Iran. Not holding Katy Perry concerts

    @amandacarpenter 24m
    For real? President Obama is having a Katy Perry concert at the WH? Do they even care about optics anymore.

    It’s a fuckin’ Special Olympics event at the White House. How dare Obama celebrate the Special Olympians? Ass!

  40. 40.

    Anoniminous

    July 31, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    @efgoldman:

    You know who else loved opera….

    Groucho?

  41. 41.

    Suffern ACE

    July 31, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: it’s odd. For once there is an immigration battle that they are losing. I think they figure they can go home to town halls and listen to people talk about lice infested, disease carrying little gangsters and turn this around. I don’t think they can.

  42. 42.

    lamh36

    July 31, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    @lamh36: Sorry, it’s Cruz’ speehwriter I believe

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 31, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Elmer Fudd?

  44. 44.

    scav

    July 31, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    @lamh36: funny how the admin shouldn’t make political hay about being sued and impeached while simultaneously worrying about optics during multi-tasking — this helpful critique from the team accomplishing nothing and looking silly flailing at single-tasking (granted, they have a plethora of competing monomanias about the real monomania).

  45. 45.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    @efgoldman: That is the case with John Marshall Harlan.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    @efgoldman: Lemmings are perfectly decent little rodents (who incidentally are not suicidal). The GOP are vicious and disease-ridden (I am speculating here) animals.

  47. 47.

    Cervantes

    July 31, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    @efgoldman: Yes, precisely.

  48. 48.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 31, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    @Mandalay: He’s the fightin’ general America needs to take the war to its real enemies — public employees.

    A crab in every bucket.

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    A crab in every bucket.

    Can we add some shrimp, sausage, corn, potatoes, and Zataran’s seasoning and then boil it?

  50. 50.

    SarahT

    July 31, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Thanks, Anne Laurie, for the Notorious RBG post. Bought the T-Shirt many moths ago & it every time I wear it at least 2 or 3 people compliment it and want info on where to buy their own. The woman who runs the tumblr seems like a good egg – glad to help her print up more shirts.

  51. 51.

    SarahT

    July 31, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    Um, that should have read “months”, not moths. I think…

  52. 52.

    danielx

    July 31, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    From Betty’s earlier thread:

    But no worries: CIA Director John Brennan has appointed former Senator Evan Bayh to chair an accountability board. I’m sure he’ll handle the role with the same levels of integrity and judgment he displayed throughout his political career. Oh wait.

    All too true….my man Evan is notorious for never stepping out of a very narrow zone of opinion on any issue you care to mention, and equally notorious for not taking a leak in the morning without checking an opinion poll first. Hey; it worked for him – two terms as governor and two terms as senator as a Dem representing the northernmost southern state, what’s not to like? But it did turn into an exercise in frustration writing letters to his office, to the point whereI finally wrote hey, the wingnuts are going to hate your ass no matter how you vote, you might as well do the right thing. To no great effect….

  53. 53.

    Hal

    July 31, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Was Bayh the guy the village media kept insisting was going to run for President in 2008 and run away with the Dem primary, and Rachel Maddow kept saying was really, really boring?

    Also, how does Dick Morris get anyone to pay him?

    Dick Morris: ‘I Wouldn’t Be Surprised if Obama Resigned’

  54. 54.

    Roger Moore

    July 31, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    @Hal:

    Also, how does Dick Morris get anyone to pay him?

    By telling them what they want to hear.

  55. 55.

    lamh36

    July 31, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Ok. I am seriously starting my search for a hotel in Hawaii. I plan to either reserve the room or pay outright for pre-booking in 2 weeks.

    So in that time I need to find a good place for the trip. I will be there from Nov 3rd to Nov 10th. So that’s 6 days 7 nights.

    So anybody who’s been or know someone who’s been please hit me up with suggestions.

    The next phase of planning will be for activities to do while I’m there. But right now it’s all about the hotels.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    I’m having potato chips and tortellini soup for dinner. Because if you can’t eat badly when you’re feeling sickly, when can you?

  57. 57.

    Anoniminous

    July 31, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    A classic interpretation to which all must pay homage!

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    @lamh36:

    I forget — did you pick one island or decide to island-hop? If you’re staying in one place, a condo (or at least a hotel room with a kitchenette) is best just so you don’t have to eat every meal out.

  59. 59.

    danielx

    July 31, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    @Hal:

    Was Bayh the guy the village media kept insisting was going to run for President in 2008 and run away with the Dem primary, and Rachel Maddow kept saying was really, really boring?

    Aye, the very same! He’s had to console his disappointment with politics with a position at Apollo Global Management. Color me unshocked.

  60. 60.

    lamh36

    July 31, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne: One island, Oahu. But I don plan to hope to one other island, the Big Island for some site seeing. But only as a day trip.

  61. 61.

    Anoniminous

    July 31, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Conservatives are now arguing that stating a scientific consensus is the Appeal to Authority Informal Logic Fallacy.

    These people are fucking stupid.

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    @efgoldman:

    She didn’t ask me to come bail her out yet, so I guess it’s OK.

    FIFY

  63. 63.

    SarahT

    July 31, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    @efgoldman: itchy !

  64. 64.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    @SarahT: And Scratchy.

  65. 65.

    MikeBoyScout

    July 31, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    Justice Ginsburg …. change and stability I can believe in …. because of her record. Think about it.

  66. 66.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    @lamh36:

    I haven’t been to Oahu since I was a teenager (which is longer ago than I care to admit) so I don’t have any specific recommendations. The Giant Evil Corporation wants me to remind you that they have a massive resort on Oahu now, and the prices can be pretty good.

    But it’s definitely nice to have a kitchenette so you can have cereal and coffee in the morning without having to get up and get out just for a bite to eat.

  67. 67.

    Mike J

    July 31, 2014 at 11:18 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Rick Santorum will never be president. Never.

    And there is no possible way Americans could be stupid enough to vote for Bush.

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 31, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    @Mike J: Bush could pretend to be something he wasn’t (a decent person). Santorum is exactly what he seems to be.

  69. 69.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2014 at 11:22 pm

    @Mike J:

    And there is no possible way Americans could be stupid enough to vote for Bush.

    They only voted for Bush in 2004, when he was the incumbent. In 2000, Gore got 500,000 more votes than Bush did.

  70. 70.

    catclub

    July 31, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    @Hal:

    Also, how does Dick Morris get anyone to pay him?

    Josh Brown of The Reformed Broker had a post with a picture of Dick Morris. He did not explicitly say that Morris is a thief/broker and what he (Josh) does at his blog is useful in protecting investors from people like him, but that was the vibe I got.

    Can you imagine trusting Dick Morris for investment advice? Nonetheless, somebody is paying him to be a headliner at some investment conference. Wow.

  71. 71.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Plus, of course, the Bushes are part of our unacknowledged aristocracy. George W was the Right Kind of People — son of a president, grandson of a senator. The Village didn’t believe he could fuck up as badly as he did since he came from a good family.

    I do think that W poisoned the name of Bush too badly for Jeb to be able to win, though we may end up having to deal with George P in another 20 years when the memories have faded a bit.

  72. 72.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    July 31, 2014 at 11:35 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Those were my sentiments exactly as I watched BIG RGB. I love that woman.

  73. 73.

    catclub

    July 31, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    @Mandalay:

    “Honest” Christ Christie for the Republican nomination in 2016!!!

    I wonder if he has some deal with Andrew Cuomo to distract attention from his scandals. Maybe they will try to run as non(bi)-partisan assholes ticket.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    Don’t fall for the scrubbing of his actual name that has taken place on the ‘net since he announced he was considering standing for office.

    It is George P. G. Bush.

    Why such steps to erase his Hispanic second middle name (also his mother’s maiden name) when running in Texas seemed like a good idea, who knows?

  75. 75.

    PurpleGirl

    July 31, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    @efgoldman: Besides there is a cadre of people who will make sure a certain search engine search finds a certain word to be the number One result for his name — in ALL the search engines, not just the one that starts with a “G”.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    August 1, 2014 at 12:12 am

    @NotMax:

    I think it’s more that most people — myself included — think it’s stupid to have two middle initials.

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    August 1, 2014 at 12:44 am

    @Mnemosyne

    Messrs. Tolkien and Martin might have a bone to pick with you.

    :)

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 1, 2014 at 12:45 am

    @Mnemosyne: It does make monogramming difficult, much like having a de or a van as a part of one’s name.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)

    August 1, 2014 at 1:27 am

    @NotMax:

    I never realized it until now, but isn’t it a little weird that Tolkien and Martin have the same double middle initials?

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 1, 2014 at 1:42 am

    @Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): No.

  81. 81.

    Anne Laurie

    August 1, 2014 at 1:47 am

    @Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): It may just be an Irish Catholic thing, when it comes to Mr. Martin (I have two middle initials apart from my double-barreled first name, and my dad had four.)

    Then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if George Raymond Richard used his initials as a minor tribute to John Ronald Reuel…

  82. 82.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    August 1, 2014 at 1:49 am

    @Anne Laurie: Did you ever listen to Prince Charles recite his name at his wedding? I doubt it is an Irish Catholic thing.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    August 1, 2014 at 1:52 am

    @NotMax:

    Messrs. Tolkien and Martin might have a bone to pick with you.

    At least they were frugal and used the same initial twice.

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