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Smiling faces sometimes tell lies

by DougJ|  September 20, 201711:04 am| 49 Comments

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Senator Bill Cassidy is a lying piece of shit and Jimmy Kimmel just called him out on national television.

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  1. 1.

    satby

    September 20, 2017 at 11:06 am

    It’s long past time for the press to follow suit and call out the blatant lies put out by Republicans in pursuit of their goals.

  2. 2.

    Hunter Gathers

    September 20, 2017 at 11:07 am

    So what?
    A lying piece of shit is POTUS.
    If anything, Cassidy just made his re-election inevitable.
    He lied to a Hollywood Liberal.
    I don’t see a downside for Cassidy in all this.

  3. 3.

    Elizabelle

    September 20, 2017 at 11:12 am

    CNN has this in heavy rotation.

    Fuck Bill Cassidy. What an “awe shucks” physician-sociopath. I hope Kimmel opens another barrel on him tonight.

  4. 4.

    Elizabelle

    September 20, 2017 at 11:14 am

    @Hunter Gathers: Don’t be so cynical.

    Louisiana, of which Cassidy is senior Senator, has a Democratic governor, John Bel Edwards, because Bobby Jindal fucked up three ways to Sunday.

  5. 5.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Bill Cassidy has not been the only smiling face. Donald Trump had a big smile on his face when he made the big deal on the budget, debt ceiling, and hurricane relief with Pelosi and Schumer.

    From Rigby, and like Digby, I also agree with Padilla:

    FYI: I agree with Indivisible’s policy director, Angel Padilla, although it’s all spilled milk now …

    “Early on in September, we said, ‘Look at how crazy jam-packed this month is. This is going to be a tough month for them to do anything.’ But that deal that Schumer and Pelosi cut made it a lot easier for Republicans to pursue what they really want, including this.”

    In addition I think that all of that “good buddy” stuff from Trump towards Schumer and Pelosi plus McConnell and Ryan’s chagrin was playacting. And while Trump may be dumb in many ways, double-dealing and backstabbing aren’t among them, in that one way he is very shrewd and not to be underestimated. Schumer and Pelosi got played. And, while Digby says it is “spilled milk now” Schumer and Pelosi should be horrified they allowed themselves to be duped in spite of the fact their opponents have repeatedly shown their ruthlessness and mendacity. Schumcr and Pelosi looked at Trump, McConnell and Ryan as someone with whom you could make a deal for the good of their country. They aren’t. Schumer thought Trump liked him. No, he just liked the naivety and saw Schumer & Pelosi’s willingness to make a good deal for their country as an opportunity to screw them and the rest of us. Giving other people the shaft when they think they are making a deal is what Donald does. Ask the thousands of contractors who sued him in court.

  6. 6.

    randy khan

    September 20, 2017 at 11:15 am

    The best part of the whole thing is Kimmel saying not to like the video on Facebook, but to call Congress. (I think a lot of the rest is really good, too, but it’s really important that he included that action point in his monologue.)

  7. 7.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    September 20, 2017 at 11:18 am

    @Elizabelle: To be pedantic, Jindal fucked up 47 ways to Sunday. It would have been comparably great of he’d only fucked up three ways to Sunday.

  8. 8.

    randy khan

    September 20, 2017 at 11:20 am

    I just spent a minute looking at the comments on YouTube and, much to my delight, they are not all sociopaths who want people to die. In fact, the vast majority of them are very supportive, and the one sociopath (who told another commenter it would be better if that commenter’s child died) was getting flayed by other commenters. It gives me hope for humanity.

  9. 9.

    Scott P.

    September 20, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Schumer and Pelosi got played.

    No, they got exactly what they wanted and needed. They went in with a list of requirements and got every one of them.

  10. 10.

    geg6

    September 20, 2017 at 11:23 am

    @patrick II:

    You are buying into whatever meme Digby and Padilla pulled out of their asses. They got a three-month extension. Not the 18 month extension the Turtle and Eddie Munster wanted. Dumpster isn’t that shrewd because it assumes he has a clue about the arcane rules of Congress, especially the Senate. I do not make that assumption. You know what they say about people that do.

    As for the Turtle and Eddie, they were all sour grapes because they really did not get what they wanted. It wasn’t an act. How do you suppose they like the idea of going into the holidays and the mid-term election looking a government shutdown in the face?

    You can buy into the idea that all these idiots in the GOP are somehow chess masters, but I’m not. Digby isn’t any better at analyzing these people than I am. That’s why I don’t read her anymore. I don’t find her to be any more insightful than my average Facebook friend.

    ETA: Plus, she has signed on to write for Salon. Anyone who does that at this point simply has little to no credibility with me.

  11. 11.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 11:23 am

    @Scott P.:
    What was on the list? And is it going to balance losing Obamacare?

  12. 12.

    randy khan

    September 20, 2017 at 11:24 am

    @patrick II:

    If they could find the votes, there always was going to be time to destroy health care. For Republicans, it’s a higher priority than the debt ceiling or a continuing resolution, or hurricane relief. I don’t know why people have some illusion to the contrary.

  13. 13.

    Elizabelle

    September 20, 2017 at 11:31 am

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): When I was sorting to move last year, I found a newspaper clipping from when Jindal was newly in office. He was promising to be a boring governor. Truly, words to that effect. LOL.

    47 ways to Sunday it is.

  14. 14.

    Hal

    September 20, 2017 at 11:32 am

    @patrick II: Schumer and Pelosi got exactly what they wanted. No one rolled them. Trump the great negotiator folded hard with no real effort on their part. Kicking the can down the road to after the midterms would have been a huge benefit to Republicans. And the idea that we wouldn’t be where we are now with Graham-Cassidy because the republicans would have been preoccupied by a government shutdown seems too fantastical to me.

  15. 15.

    NorthLeft12

    September 20, 2017 at 11:32 am

    Kudos to Mr. Kimmel for calling out Senator Cassidy and the Republicans by name for lying and trying to kill and/or bankrupt their fellow Americans.

    And also for owning his politicization of his son’s condition. There are good people out there that actually have empathy and compassion.

  16. 16.

    CaseyL

    September 20, 2017 at 11:38 am

    @patrick II: Actually, an argument can be made that what got this fetid Graham-Cassidy ball rolling was Wilmer shattering a truly bipartisan effort to protect the ACA by talking up a single-payer bill instead. That peeled off some Dems who would otherwise have supported the bipartisan effort, and so the GOP responded by cobbling up the Graham-Cassidy atrocity.

  17. 17.

    catclub

    September 20, 2017 at 11:42 am

    @Hunter Gathers: @Elizabelle:

    Louisiana, of which Cassidy is senior Senator, has a Democratic governor, John Bel Edwards, because Bobby Jindal fucked up three ways to Sunday.

    Cynicism still has its merits. Bel Edwards was running against David Vitter – who was ALSO hated by the GOP but still got the nom. If Bel Edwards had been running against any nameless GOP candidate he would have lost in spite of the Jindal borking of the state budget.

  18. 18.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 11:50 am

    @randy khan:

    This is the gist of our disagreement then. If the republicans had made healthcare a higher priority than the debt ceiling, budget and hurricane relief with out the Schumer/Pelosi deal that would mean a government shut down and bad credit and unfunded emergency in the midst of the aftermath of two, now three, hurricanes. The country would be in real trouble and Republicans could not get re-elected if they showed that level of incompetence. They, McConnell and Ryan, were always gong to need democratic votes because of the Freedom Caucus.

    And what makes you think they will keep the deal? McConnell has already bragged that he has put language in the bill that negates the deal. So now what do you have? 30 million without health insurance which will lead to about 35,000 unnecessary deaths annually.

  19. 19.

    dr. bloor

    September 20, 2017 at 11:53 am

    @Scott P.: This. The charming bit of revisionism from the left rump of the party makes me want to vomit.

  20. 20.

    Mike in NC

    September 20, 2017 at 11:54 am

    How did the hapless fool Bobby Jindal not end up with a job in the Trump Crime Cartel? Too swarthy, I imagine.

  21. 21.

    BlueDWarrior

    September 20, 2017 at 11:55 am

    @dr. bloor: It just strikes me that these are the kinds of people who seem to blame Democrats whenever Republicans gain power and do bad things. It’s always the (D)s fault for whatever the (R) does wrong, as if the people who vote R should be held blameless because if it weren’t for the D being stupid, they’d vote D instead.

    It’s extraordinarily infuriating to me.

  22. 22.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    @dr. bloor:

    @Scott P.: This. The charming bit of revisionism from the left rump of the party makes me want to vomit

    I will try to make this clear.
    First, the driving force behind the evil being done in congress and White House are Republican functional sociopaths, not Democrats.
    Second, The Replican establishment (as opposed to the freedom caucus) are getting pretty much what they wanted. No government shutdown or debt crisis during a time of crisis. Plus it looks as if Obamacare will be repealed.
    Third. The democrats lost what they needed. A crowded calendar with real crisis crowding out Ocare Repeal.

  23. 23.

    J R in WV

    September 20, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    @geg6:

    I don’t care for Salon either, but perhaps Digby needs the money? She’s well know, even famous, in the blogosphere, but that and $5 will get you a cuppa at Starbucks. Note that I don’t say a cuppa what?

    anyhoo, WASF.

  24. 24.

    Chyron HR

    September 20, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    @patrick II:

    Republicans could not get re-elected if they showed that level of incompetence.

    I’m sure you guys would find an excuse to stay home and let them win regardless. Are you still gripped with incontinent rage over that time the Democrats served doughnuts at a meeting?

  25. 25.

    LurkerNoLonger

    September 20, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    If they wanted to pass this shit under the cover of darkness, that plan is now fucked. Jimmy Kimmel put a big shining light on them.

  26. 26.

    Kathleen

    September 20, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    @geg6: I quit reading her years ago. No great insight and too much tsk tsk and hand wringing.

  27. 27.

    JaneSays

    September 20, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    @geg6: RE: Salon writers, Amanda Marcotte is pretty good, and still has loss of credibility with me.

  28. 28.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    I haven’t missed a presidential election since 1968 when I was aboard the USS Ranger in the Pacific. How about you?
    The donuts were great.

  29. 29.

    JaneSays

    September 20, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    @CaseyL: That’s not exactly true – Graham-Cassidy was in the pipeline long before Sanders put his single-payer bill on the table. I agree that Sanders timing was certainly unhelpful (he should have waited until October 1st), but it’s not as if the GOP’s efforts to kill Obamacare one last time only exist because of Sander’s bill.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 20, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    @J R in WV: Oy, Salon. And I thought they were bad when Joan Walsh was publishing Camille Paglia. I finally deleted that bookmark when they fired Simon Maloy, even though I guess they do still publish a few decent people, it’s hard to wade through all the “Why Bourgeois Liberals Are the Real Problem” shit

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 20, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    @sylvania: also, trump likes Alphas, generals, billionaires, tuff guys… Jindal was half Kenneth The Page, Half Gilligan

  32. 32.

    Boatboy_srq

    September 20, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    @Elizabelle: It took Jindal fvcking up three ways to Sunday AND his replacement being David “Huggies” Vitter. It took THAT level of fvcking up.

  33. 33.

    patrick II

    September 20, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    @geg6:

    They got a three-month extension. Not the 18 month extension the Turtle and Eddie Munster wanted

    What does this buy them? McConnell has bragged that as Senate leader he drafts the Bill and Schumer and Pelosi did not get what they wanted. But my biggest problem is the democrats using debt ceiling relief for leverage at all. I don’t think they are sociopathic enough to actually destroy the country’s finances. The Freedom Caucus would so that’s an actual threat, but not the democrats. It’s no good holding a gun to their head if they know you won’t use it.

  34. 34.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 20, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    @BlueDWarrior: That’s my biggest frustration too. I see people protesting Pelosi because she made a deal to save DACA for an unspecified “border security” funding agreements that would have passed anyway without Democratic help.

    I even got into a facebook fight with a professional activist friend of mine. He wanted me to stop calling the protesters idiots because they have a valid point of view (that we shouldn’t be ‘elevating’ DACA recipients into the ‘good immigrants’, because that implies the rest of them are bad). I persisted, because that’s a fine argument to make but you don’t publicly embarrass the person that saved 800,000 lines because you think they did it wrong. That just divides the entire party when we’re all on the same side, and it makes us look like idiots to the independents.

  35. 35.

    Steeplejack

    September 20, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Don’t cry for Bobby fucking Jindal. He took a job last month as an “operating adviser” for Ares Management, a global investment firm based in Los Angeles.

    The publicly traded company says it has $104 billion in assets and has 15 offices around the world.

    “The firm is large enough to make an impact, and the people are high quality,” Jindal wrote in an email to friends obtained by the Business Report. “I have enjoyed the private equity work I have done over the last several months, and am confident this platform will allow me to help portfolio companies accelerate their growth while also making a real impact in the changing health care environment.”

    Also, someone needs to hate-edit the shit out of Jindal’s Wikipedia entry. It’s like a long, glowing résumé for himself, including such details as: “In 2006, he and his wife delivered their third child at home, with him receiving medical coaching by phone to deliver their boy.” WTF?!

  36. 36.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 20, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    @patrick II: I don’t think the Democrats would use the debt ceiling to push for new policy. They can easily shrug and say they’re entirely willing to relieve the debt ceiling in exchange for keeping certain Obama-era policies in place. There’s enough republicans that will cave to public pressure to do that, and all the Dems are doing is extending the old (non-crazy) status quo.

    That said, I’m uncomfortable with ANYONE using the Debt Ceiling as a policy vehicle. I suppose there’s a lot to be said for the fact that republicans have been doing it for years, and you don’t bring just a knife to a gunfight.

  37. 37.

    Mnemosyne

    September 20, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    @patrick II:

    But my biggest problem is the democrats using debt ceiling relief for leverage at all. I don’t think they are sociopathic enough to actually destroy the country’s finances. The Freedom Caucus would so that’s an actual threat, but not the democrats.

    So if the Democrats weren’t going to blow up the country’s finances, why not make a deal to get something they wanted in exchange for not doing something they wouldn’t have done anyway?

    And Schumer and Pelosi can still step back and say, “You guys broke your leader’s promise, so the deal’s off” and hand the bag of stinky poo right back to McConnell and Ryan.

  38. 38.

    Belafon

    September 20, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    @patrick II: The only way your scenario makes sense is if Pelosi and Schumer promised that they would back the next vote, no matter what it was. That didn’t happen.
    Republicans are going to keep trying until they get that sweet Koch cash, which is hinged upon cutting taxes on the 1% to 0.

  39. 39.

    bystander

    September 20, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    @BlueDWarrior: I’m glad I realized the profile before the second, tl;dr post. Saved some eyesight.

  40. 40.

    TenguPhule

    September 20, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    So if the Democrats weren’t going to blow up the country’s finances, why not make a deal to get something they wanted in exchange for not doing something they wouldn’t have done anyway?

    Because we’d be beaten over the head with it as a precedent forever.

    Rules only apply to the Democrats.

  41. 41.

    TenguPhule

    September 20, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    @patrick II:

    The country would be in real trouble and Republicans could not get re-elected if they showed that level of incompetence.

    Have you not been paying attention for the last 24 years?

  42. 42.

    randy khan

    September 20, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @patrick II:

    If the republicans had made healthcare a higher priority than the debt ceiling, budget and hurricane relief with out the Schumer/Pelosi deal that would mean a government shut down and bad credit and unfunded emergency in the midst of the aftermath of two, now three, hurricanes.

    Dealing with those other issues in a slightly-compressed time frame because they also were passing a health care bill would have been somewhat more inconvenient, but not by any stretch of the imagination undoable. My point is that, from a political perspective, health care is more important to them than those other items (two of which actually are politically difficult), so they would have found the time if they had the votes, regardless of whether there was a deal between Trump and the Dems on the other issues. Heck, they could have done health care while they were trying to figure out the other items.

    All of the commentary about how hard it was going to be to deal with the budget, the debt ceiling and the hurricane relief bill was not about whether there wasn’t time in the legislative calendar – there was plenty of time. It was about whether they could figure out a deal that would pass at all. That’s why it’s nonsensical to say that Schumer and Pelosi cutting the deal they did enabled the health care vote.

  43. 43.

    randy khan

    September 20, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    @patrick II:

    McConnell has bragged that as Senate leader he drafts the Bill and Schumer and Pelosi did not get what they wanted.

    And you believe him? Keep in mind that the bill wouldn’t have passed the House without the support the Dems gave it, and it seems unlikely that Pelosi wouldn’t have had the caucus vote for it if it didn’t contain what she negotiated for.

  44. 44.

    TenguPhule

    September 20, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Most states used the ACA’s funding to expand Medicaid; some Republican-run states, liberated by the Supreme Court’s decision to make the funding optional, did not. As a result, 14 of the 15 states that would stand to gain from block grants are run by Republicans; Democratic megastates including California, New York and Massachusetts would lose billions of dollars, a feature both Graham and Cassidy have talked up to conservatives.

    Cleek’s Law. Updated daily.

  45. 45.

    zhena gogolia

    September 20, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @NorthLeft12:

    It was excellent. People were giving him a hard time the first time for not pointing the finger at Republicans. But he set them up so that he could specifically show the lying liar and the lies he told.

  46. 46.

    Raoul

    September 20, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    Both Cassidy and Graham seem super-pissed that Kimmel called him out. They were counting on a pliant news media. Bt Kimmel isn’t news (though he makes news sometimes).

  47. 47.

    NorthLeft12

    September 20, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    I realized something about that lying sack of shit Mr. Cassidy…..despite his public posturing did he not vote for the repeal of the ACA without any identified replacement?
    Did he think that passed the Kimmel Test?

  48. 48.

    Dice

    September 20, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    Cassidy == Darren Stevens (“Bewitched”) on crack.

  49. 49.

    dp

    September 20, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @Mike in NC: He has the deep stench of failure about him. If you screw up to the point that a Democrat can succeed you in a deep red state, you’re a loser that the Orange Overlord wants nothing to do with.

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