If Wiles has actually stepped away from her job as Chief Nanny — by her own choice or not — it’s a sign that the WH courtiers have started ripping the copper wiring out of the walls. By all reports, she’s the closest to a governor on the flailing Trump juggernaut… he didn’t snap ‘Quiet, Piggy’ at female reporters while his surrogate mom (note the unfortunate hairstyle) was around.
Donald Trump’s longtime supporters are coming for White House gatekeeper Susie Wiles, blaming the president’s so-called “Ice Maiden” for his missteps on everything from the Jeffrey Epstein files to his America First agenda.
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast.bsky.social) November 14, 2025 at 9:30 PM
“MAGA Finds Woman to Blame for Trump’s Spiral Into Crisis”:
… After a turbulent week marked by criticism of the president’s comments on “affordability,” skilled worker visas, Chinese students, and his halting response to the newly released Epstein emails, MAGA loyalists have openly accused his chief of staff of steering the president off-course.
Wiles, long viewed as one of the architects behind Trump’s 2024 campaign revival and now a central force inside the West Wing, has spent years cultivating a reputation as a disciplined, discreet operative—someone who not just advises Trump, but tries to keep him focused and filters out the noise for him.
But for some hardline conservatives and MAGA loyalists, her gatekeeping is now the problem…
“She needs to go before she gets him destroyed in the midterms,” wrote one social media user, who describes herself as “just a red girl living in a blue world.”
“Too many boomers as gatekeepers. Get a young COS with the pulse on modern American issues,” wrote another…
But Trump has long been a staunch defender of his top aide, whom he affectionately calls “Ice Maiden” and once praised as “the most powerful person in the world.”
The 68-year-old was the first major staffing appointment the president made after winning the election last year, marking the first time a woman has held the position of chief of staff in the White House.
“Susie Wiles just helped me achieve one of the greatest political victories in American history, and was an integral part of both my 2016 and 2020 successful campaigns,” Trump said on Nov. 8, 2024, four days after defeating Kamala Harris.
He added that Wiles, a former adviser to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, was “universally admired and respected.”
But not everyone in Trump’s orbit initially agreed with the pick. In his new book Retribution, ABC journalist Jonathan Karl revealed a last-ditch effort by two other contenders, Linda McMahon and Brooke Rollins, to derail Wiles’ appointment ahead of Trump meeting her at Mar-a-Lago on Nov. 7 to offer her the job…
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Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. defended top Trump administration aides Susie Wiles and Stefanie Spear Friday after some of his supporters accused them of working against Kennedy’s ‘Make America Healthy Again’ movement.
www.politico.com/news/2025/11…— Lauren Ashley Davis (@laurenmeidasa.bsky.social) November 15, 2025 at 9:06 AM
Another bad sign:
…Kennedy’s post in support of Wiles came after one recently fired Department of Health and Human Service employee said that he believes Wiles is behind a plan to destroy Kennedy and his MAHA movement.
“They didn’t want the status quo changed, and they’ve jumped into bed with Big Pharma,” Steve Hatfill said in an interview posted on X Wednesday, referring to Wiles and other aides who he believes are getting in Kennedy’s way…
In his X post Friday, Kennedy said that “a small number of chaos agents are now targeting Susie out of ignorance or malice.”
Mary Talley Bowden, a physician known for promoting ivermectin to treat Covid-19 despite FDA warnings that the drug is ineffective against the disease and can cause harm, responded to Kennedy: “Calling dissenters “chaos agents” is a CIA tactic,” she wrote in an X post…
War for Ukraine Day 1,362: More Missiles on Monday Afternoon
rikyrah
Oh well.
Like she deserves any sympathy😒😒
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊
Gretchen
@rikyrah: Good morning!
Gretchen
I hope she and everyone else who brought us to this place get everything they deserve. None of this “she was the guardrail “ . If you hadn’t helped elect a felonious moron we wouldn’t need guardrails.
Ramona
@rikyrah: Good morning!
Ramona
@Gretchen: Hear, hear!
Betty Cracker
Hurricane Susie left a wide swathe of destruction in her wake in Florida, and now the storm is wrecking the whole country.
lowtechcyclist
@Gretchen:
Bingo.
So the MAGAts are after her head? Too bad, so sad.
lowtechcyclist
Ignorance, malice – that pretty much sums up Trump’s GOP. And Lord knows they’ve got plenty of chaos agents. So welcome to the bed you’ve helped make, you privileged scum. May they come after you as well.
Deputinize America
OTish, but I’ve been thinking about Nuzzi/Kennedy, and want to reiterate that this is the sort of prose that nets you a primo journalism management position, a lucrative book deal, and a New York Times profile for the cognoscenti:
I did not like to think about it just as later I would not like to think about the worm in his brain that other people found so funny. I loved his brain. I hated the idea of an intruder therein. Others thought he was a madman; he was not quite mad the way they thought, but I loved the private ways that he was mad. I loved that he was insatiable in all ways, as if he would swallow up the whole world just to know it better if he could. He made me laugh, but I winced when he joked about the worm. “Baby, don’t worry,” he said. “It’s not a worm.” A doctor he trusted had reviewed the scans of his brain obtained by The New York Times, he said, and concluded that the shadowy figure was likely not a parasite at all. He sighed. It was too late to interfere with what had already vaulted from the sphere of meme to the sphere of screwy legend, but at least I did not have to worry about the worm that was not a worm in his brain.
I don’t blame her – I blame the morons that hired her.
Nukular Biskits
DeMs In DiSaRrAy!!!!!!!!!
Betty Cracker
@Deputinize America: My hubby doesn’t pay attention to politics and had never heard of Nuzzi, but we were giggling like middle-schoolers during cocktail hour yesterday while reading passages aloud.
I mean, come on, man! 😂
J.
I wonder if Ivanka and Jared are gloating.
Wilson Heath
They think they’ve still got room for the “good tsar, bad boyar” schtick. That’s just precious. Ask Nicholas and Rasputin how well that worked out for both.
Deputinize America
@Betty Cracker:
If you REALLY want to get a hate read on, take a gander at Lizza’s retort to the book. These are all tedious, unserious, talentless people astride prestige platforms, grabbing piles of cash and accolades while ruining public discourse by a combination of mediocrity, avarice and malice.
telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out
Our relationship was improbable in so many ways, but every time it survived its own contradictions and weathered another storm, we took it as a sign of strength and a shared fate. As we exited that era, Olivia wrote me a note reflecting on “all that we’ve made it through together.”
“Sometimes,” she said, “I feel like I’ve lived a hundred lives, and when I look back, the only really sad ones, even if nothing particularly sad occurred, were the ones before I found you.”
Now, the dark clouds had passed, and we were enjoying a period of tranquil domesticity. We moved into a three-story townhouse in Georgetown, where we hosted intimate dinners and threw parties for our friends in media and politics. Olivia wanted to get married in the next few years—“Before I’m old,” she would say, meaning 30—and our Georgetown chapter was a test run for whether that might work. I politely demurred whenever the subject came up and spent my free time in the garden tinkering with fountains and battling the bamboo.
There were also new pressures on us. We were under contract to write a book about the presidential campaign. The primaries were in full swing, and it felt like we were falling behind on our project. But there was one bright spot. Olivia was spending more and more time in South Carolina, from where she had just returned, which was a good thing, I thought, considering how politically important the state was. In the fall, she had published, in New York magazine, a profile of a long-shot but intriguing presidential candidate, and he continued to be a helpful source. Maybe this book would come together, after all.
It was early March. I looked out the window at the garden and noticed the first flowers blooming. Then, squinting, I also thought I saw some new shoots of bamboo. I would have to get out the machete.
But one mess at a time. As I tidied up the desk, something on the Kimpton stationery caught my eye. I started to read.
“If I swallowed every drop of water from the tower above your house,” Olivia had written, “I would still thirst for you.”
I mean, Jesus….
MagdaInBlack
@Betty Cracker: I “heard” she left the DeSantis campaign because of Stacey DeSantis and then tanked/sabotaged the DeSantis campaign.
Dunno if its true but its an interesting story and I’m not above a little gossip about that crew.
Tony Jay
@Betty Cracker:
Make my cheque out to ‘Shameless Tat Productions’.
Steve in the ATL
@Tony Jay: that’s awesome, as always!
MagdaInBlack
@MagdaInBlack: … it was Rick Wilson dropped that little nugget, the other day on Mollie Jong-Fast podcast. They were talking about knives being out for Ms Wiles.
Betty Cracker
@Deputinize America: I saw a link to that on Bluesky and assumed it was parody!
@Tony Jay: It would have to be Chalamet! 😂
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Susie Wiles has thoroughly earned whatever misfortunes come her way but the idea that she’s solely or primarily responsible for Trump’s political swan dive is just so ridiculously stupid you’d think they were kidding until you realize ridiculously stupid is, like, what these people are.
Starting with the DOGE wilding spree through tariff mania and ICE raids, FEMA fuck ups, MAHA craziness etc it’s easy to name the advisor responsible and in all cases Wiles isn’t at the top of the list. Especially the tariffs, which are so obviously Trump’s decision. But more infighting is better than less so please proceed morons.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
I though “Old, Out of Touch, and White” was the entire point of MAGA.
Tony Jay
@Betty Cracker:
Exact same advert for Chris Hemsworth, except the man-spray is called “Allure”.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
As for Nuzzi that’s a lot of flowery language to say “I always wanted to fuck a Kennedy and finally found one I had a shot with.”
Betty Cracker
@MagdaInBlack: The DeSantii have burned all manner of bridges! From what I hear, they ousted Wiles after (falsely?) accusing her of leaking info, then unsuccessfully tried to sabotage her career with other Repubs. But DeSantis is such a repellent character that it backfired, probably with Wiles’ assistance.
All of the players in that drama are thoroughly awful people, so rooting for injuries is the default. ;-)
Jeffro
um wut??!?
yes…YES, you neo-Nazi nitwits…it’s WILES who will get trump destroyed in the midterms…
(not enough eyerolls in all the world)
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker:
how ’bout this one, from Lizza, once he found out she had been banging (of all people) Mark “hiking the Appalachian Trail” Sanford(!)
Princess
Wiles is effective and if she goes, Trump will be weaker and there will be more infighting, so pass the popcorn.
Trump is too smart to let her go though. If she does go, that itself will be a sign of great weakness.
Deputinize America
@Betty Cracker:
Nope – Lizza put it on his. I MAY have said something really shitty and critical to him on said page, figuring both of them will read it, as well as their handlers and paymasters.
Deputinize America
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
She’s not that much different than a starfucker – she just has better connections and access.
Jeffro
very much related: Ted Cruz was talking just last night about running for the GOP nom in 2028(!)
this whole thing gonna collapse a lot faster than people think!
MagdaInBlack
@Deputinize America: Didya read down to the Keith Olbermann entanglement?
“Not that long ago, I had helped her untangle herself from an unusual relationship with Keith Olbermann, the former MSNBC host. She had messaged him out of the blue. They started talking, and soon after, she fled her unhappy home in suburban New Jersey and started living with Keith in Manhattan. He paid for her to attend college, outfitted her in Tom Ford and Hervé Léger dresses and some $15,000 worth of Cartier jewelry. Later, he covered her rent and furnished her apartment in a doorman building in the West Village. While Keith, who was 34 years older, was generous, there were strings attached. Olivia had concealed the relationship from me and other friends, but one day she told me everything—too much, actually—and together we hatched a plan for her escape.”
Jeez
p.a.
If 1% of Kennedy lore is true, she had lots of other shots and just proved her “worth” with her choice.
Deputinize America
@MagdaInBlack:
Olbermann would have spent less money hiring a top tier escort off and on during the same time period that he was stuck with her. Instead, he saddled himself with a high-maintenance greedy, needy bundle of pretentiousness and fictive neuroses and no actual friends. I’d say that the sex would have to be great, but you know in your heart of hearts that it wasn’t.
Princess
You all made me read the Lizzo thing and Omg the writing is so bad. Can’t believe he wrote for the New Yorker.
Tony Jay
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
@p.a.:
Fixed for anti-sexiness
lowtechcyclist
@Deputinize America:
Like something you’d write about some Washington insider couple to show how connected and insidery they are, only he’s writing it about himself and Nuzzi. “This is how we see ourselves.” Clearly no notion of how it would strike anyone outside that world.
Anne Laurie
Ryan Lizza, according to Lizza, selflessly rescued little Olivia from that aging monster Olberman… and promptly fell into her, uh, arms. Of course, Lizza already had a wife and three kids (not mentioned here), but he was only nineteen years older than Nuzzi, so practically classmates!
I just keep imagining what a half-decent advice columnist would say — original Ann Landers, or Carolyn Hax — if he’d written this whinge & addressed it to them. You knew she was a scorpion when you picked her up! You were breaking faith with your own family! The technical term for your situation is ‘just desserts!’…
Scout211
So Make America Great Again back to the . . . ‘90s?
Seems like someone didn’t think that one through or maybe going back to the ‘50s is not as popular as one would expect from the MAGA crowd.
As we decided yesterday in the comment section, the only normal looking competent woman in the Trump administration will definitely be blamed for not letting “Trump be Trump.”
I am fine with letting Trump be Trump but are all these complainers really ready for that?
moonbat
Re: The affairs of Nuzzi, ew, ew, ew ,ew ,ew. Everyone involved who has written about them seem to be vacant sycophants to power and prestige trying to sound emotionally ‘deep’ and dramatic but come off like AI aping a teenager writing their first romance novel.
Re: Susie Wiles, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Makes perfect sense that MAGA would target the only person in the West Wing who has a functioning brain because she also happens to be an icky girl.
Matt McIrvin
It’s so strange how Lizza falls into practically the same purple mode of writing as Nuzzi when he talks about it. Maybe he figured he was parodying her style–that’s how it comes off.
YY_Sima Qian
If Wiles has gone, there goes any last bit of method in the madness that is the Trump47 WH.
stinger
Why are we criticizing her hair? Mine doesn’t look all that different. Shall we go after her weight, her clothing choices, her makeup? At least she doesn’t wear pantsuits, amirite?
there go two miscreants
That was the line that made me laugh!
SFAW
@Jeffro:
You’re forgetting the age-old maxim:
Behind every great [sic] man, there’s a woman — who will get all the blame if he ever screws up.
Tony Jay
@there go two miscreants:
It’s all in the details.
SFAW
@Anne Laurie:
Well, they’re both classless, so I guess they could be classmates.
Geminid
@MagdaInBlack: I’m pretty sure Wiles was the source for the “DeSantis eats pudding with his fingers” story.
Wiles is shrewd. I expect that by the time Wiles and DeSantis parted ways, she knew DeSantis better than he knew himself.
Miss Bianca
@Deputinize America: Somehow, I find myself able to blame both.
Prose that fucking embarrassing reveals a willfully-cultivated rot in the center of the brain. As does finding Leatherface Kennedy the slightest bit attractive.
@Tony Jay: *weak with laughter over here*, just sayin’.
MagdaInBlack
@Geminid: And if she leaves the administration, the cork will be off the crazy bottle.
Interesting times…..
Geminid
@MagdaInBlack: I don’t Wiles will leave. Trump knows he needs her, and so do people around him like Witkoff, Rubio, Bessent and Vance.
I saw complaints about Wiles on MAGA social medis from the start of this administration. She is seen as an establishment, “corporate ” Republican, because she is and always has been. So it’s no surprise the knives are out for her now, when Trump is failing in a number of areas. But ditching Wiles won’t turn these failures around because she is not the problem, Trump is.
strange visitor (from another planet)
olbermann has two ‘n’s.
when i was younger, i fell in love with a woman who cheated on her fiancé by hooking up with me. sex was great, and i thought, “she’d never cheat on ME, right?!?!”
yeah, no. not my best judgement call. was heartbroken but ALSO realized i was an IDIOT.
this level of introspection is apparently not available to ryan lizza.
Paul in KY
@rikyrah: I hope she gets it good and hard.
Paul in KY
@Betty Cracker: Her prose desired a competent editor :-)
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: You do have a gift, good sir.
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: He allured being allured. To allure the not yet allured and the already allured…
Paul in KY
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: That’s probably it right there.
Paul in KY
@Jeffro: Yeah, they should definitely kick her out right now! Embarrass her while they are at it.
Paul in KY
@Geminid: Feel a bit sorry for her…
Bill Arnold
@Princess:
Laura Loomer (AKA “Trump’s Fellatrix”, H/T Gin & Tonic) is opposed to S. Wiles, so … it could get interestingly stupid.
Miss Bianca
@strange visitor (from another planet): Yeah, pro-tip from the future to younger and dumber selves: Anyone you hook up with who is cheating on a partner to hook up with you, WILL cheat on you with someone else. I wouldn’t call it as inevitable as the sun rising in the east, but…close.
WTFGhost
@Gretchen: Yeah, like “Anonymous.”
“You may think a lawless President is a danger. So do I! That’s why we don’t respect the chain of command! If the President says to do something, we sit on it, until he comes to his senses! Because, after all, the most important thing is, if the President is inherently unfit for office, we’ll cover for his worst tendencies, so his lawbreaking doesn’t ruin Republican poll numbers. So, thank us, for failing to obey orders, and for failing to raise the alarm that the President is a grave danger to the constitutional order!”
Wiles is the same thing, only, you know, taking credit for unleashing fascism.
Do you think Hitlers COS was also fascist? Or just a Nazi who rode along, didn’t really want to murder millions of Jews, just, you knew, went along to go along, damn shame about the Jews and all, but, hey, don’t call her a collaborator, call her a *GUARD RAIL* against even worse crimes that should be tried at Nuremberg…?
ETtheLibrarian
She is likely the biggest reason all that is going on right now didn’t happen earlier.