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We Will Remember What They Have Done Here

What Would Thomas Jefferson and John Adams Do?*

by Tom Levenson|  January 24, 20264:54 pm| 79 Comments

This post is in: Breathtaking Criminality and Lawlessness, Open Threads, Resistance to Trump, Today in Fascism, We Will Remember What They Have Done Here

*Noting that there are many things that those two worthies did that we might not want to replicate…;-)

I have nothing unique to add to an interpretation of today’s news. I am as angry, frustrated, and mortally sad as any of us here, John, Betty, Watergirl, all of us.

But maybe this is worth sharing:

On learning of the latest ICE murder, I did something I haven’t for a very long time: I sought out the Declaration of Independence and read its first section with an ear to its present day resonances.

It’s striking, and useful. (Adjusting for the assumptions of the day. All people, that is, not merely all men…)

…

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness….To prove this [the existence of tyranny], let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

The catalogue indictments Jefferson and his co-authors came up with was extensive, and seemingly specific to the abuses of (episodically) mad King George. But reading through that tally again just now I am struck by how readily many of them translate to our current moment. Some examples:

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

…

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

…

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

…

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: [emphasis added, obviously]

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

…

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

…

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

…

To be sure, there are a few offenses attributed to George R. that reflect more poorly on the signatories of the Declaration than on that distant king. And there are others that have analogues in Trump’s behavior now but do not map onto current offenses as clearly as those above.

But damn! The armed assault on our people; the impunity claimed and so far maintained for the paramilitary murders and assaults we daily witness; the capricious viciousness around immigration; the idiotic and arbitrary tariffs…all of Trump’s greatest hits are there.

Which leads, of course, to the next, obvious thought: if the end sought in the Declaration of Independence made sense in that moment, how should we respond to our like grievances now, in our current, quite different circumstances?

I don’t have a good answer. But ISTM that’s the question right now.

Open thread.

NB: this is a lightly edited cross post of a rant I put up on Substack’s “notes” app just now.

Image: Léon Cogniet, Massacre of the Innocents, 1824

What Would Thomas Jefferson and John Adams Do?*Post + Comments (79)

Speaking of Virginia, Beto O’Rourke Held a Town Hall

by WaterGirl|  July 20, 20251:48 pm| 125 Comments

This post is in: Dark Days Before the Dawn, Dems Fighting Back, Keeping Receipts, Open Threads, Refusing To Let Those Fuckers Win, The Only Way Out Is Through, We Will Remember What They Have Done Here, Why We Fight

Speaking of Virginia, where we held a raffle and are holding the auction for a Native-made star quilt, Beto O’Rourke held a town hall there.

h/t Another Scott

What is Beto doing in Virginia?  He cares about democracy.   And organizing.  And doing our part in this fight.  Fighting and winning.

Here’s an excerpt, but there is much more at the link.  And video for those who prefer that.

But one of the things that we learned in this last election and we should have learned it long before is that you will not have a political democracy if you do not also have an economic one. If folks cannot get what they need from a government of the many, soon enough they are open to getting what they need from a government of the few or a government even of just one. Now, we expect our fellow Americans to strive to get ahead, to serve, to sacrifice even. All of us have had to do that in our lives. But we do not expect you to have to struggle just to survive. And that’s what so many millions of our fellow Americans are doing right now.

So, I want you to imagine a future where we guarantee that your take-home pay is enough to live on so you don’t have to work a second or a job just to get by. I want you to imagine a future where when you’re sick, you can see a doctor before you’re sick. You can see a doctor so that you do not get sick in the first place. We guarantee that you have access to fresh and healthy food, clean drinking water, the time and space to exercise and move your body, to spend time with your kids, with your family, with your loved ones. I mean, this is the stuff that makes life worth living. That’s an economic future that we can all agree on and believe in. It is giving people what they’re asking for. And if we’re honest with ourselves, it is what they need and what they’re not getting right now. And I want you to remember, we are the wealthiest, the most powerful country in the entirety of human history. We do not lack for the resources to get this done. Only the political will to accomplish it.

Speaking of our power and the fact that we are the most powerful country on the planet today, I want you to imagine this future. An America that no longer turns its back on its allies and its friends, but instead chooses to work with them on matters great and small. We alone will not be able to defeat the spectre of climate change before it’s too late. We need the other countries of this planet. The issues and challenges of international migration. We need the other countries of this hemisphere. Nuclear non-prololiferation. I sure as hell do not want to get into another war in the Middle East with Iran. What about nonviolently, peacefully resolving our differences diplomatically, bringing the nations of the world together if that’s what it takes to make sure that we end wars and do not start them? We sow peace and reap prosperity for the people of this world and also for the people of the United States. And imagine us, imagine us standing on the principles of human rights and self-determination and no longer being complicit in the bombing and starving and slaughtering of children and families in Gaza, innocent civilians who are killed by the tens of thousands with the help of this country. Imagine a future we are not part of that. But instead, we use this awesome power to bring the nations of the Middle East together, the nations of the world, if that’s what we have to do, to ensure that we can establish a sovereign, independent state for the Palestinian people, guarantee their safety and security, the security of the Israelis and everyone who lives in that region. It’s good not just for them, it is good for the United States, for our people and our future.

And now imagine this. We bring that same logic back home to this country. And you and your loved ones and your neighbors and your fellow Americans no longer have to fear a masked plain closed federal agent without a warrant or a badge sweeping you off the street, illegally arresting you, detaining you, imprisoning you, deporting you to a country to which you have never been. perhaps sending you to that goolag in El Salvador out from which you will never come. And we we meet that challenge by rededicating ourselves to the Constitution, to the rights and protections contained therein, like due process, which is so sorely missing from this country today. And then back to my fellow Democrats. Listen, I am uh 52 years old and for my entire adult life, the Democratic Party has been promising immigration reform. I don’t even like to utter the phrase anymore because we have so badly failed to deliver on this promise. We had the White House, the House, and the Senate in 2009. We did some wonderful things with it, but we did not move forward on immigration. We had the White House, the House, and the Senate in 2021. We did some wonderful things with that power, but we did not move forward on immigration.

So I want to imagine a future when the Democratic Party once again has control of the levers of government that we use that to rewrite these laws in our own image reflecting our own values legalizing for example every dreamer in this country every Dreamer’s parent in this country every hardworking American who’s putting food on our table working jobs that our kids are not willing to take and make sure that they can contribute even more as US citizens and for those who want to come here who just want to join their family they live in another country right now or they want to work a job because they can’t find back home and this job is unfilled by an American here or they are fleeing certain death for themselves or their kids back in the country where they currently live. We want to make sure and I don’t think this is asking too much that there is a safe legal orderly path to come to this country and to do it the right way. We’re we’re the United States of America. We can figure this stuff out. And look, you see what’s going on. The pastor mentioned it earlier. This is not who we are. These are not our values. These sweeps that we’re seeing through cities large and small. Sewing fear on purpose, terrorizing people who are innocent literally of any crime. And it’s not just immigrants. It’s deporting US citizen children, kids who were born in this country, some with stage four cancer, deported from America without their medications. I mean, who are we at the end of the day if we stay silent and become complicit in what is happening right now to our fellow human beings? We can all agree that we want to have control of our borders. I live in El Paso, Texas, the largest border community in the Western Hemisphere with CEO’s 2.5 million people. We’re raising our kids there. Of course, I want it to be secure. We want to know who’s coming into the United States of America. I think we can agree on that. We want to protect one another from violent criminals. Whether they were born in Virginia or born in Honduras, it doesn’t matter. We just want people to be safe. But I also want you to remember this. Immigrants are not taking anything from any of us. They are contributing far more into this country than they are ever drawing down. They are helping to make this still the greatest country on the planet. I just mentioned it is one of the safest cities in America. Not in spite of the fact that it is a city of immigrants but because it is a city of immigrants. So we forget this at our peril.

But I don’t really think this is about immigration. Just like I don’t think that the attacks on DEI are really about attacks on the idea of diversity or equity or inclusion in this country. Just like I don’t think the attacks on trans Americans are about denying your ability to be who you want to be. That might be an ancillary side benefit for the MAGA movement right now. But what they’re really trying, and I want us all to pay attention to this, is they want to divide us and they want to distract us. They don’t want us to pay attention to the really important big thing that is happening right now, which is that the Republican party and Donald Trump and the billionaires who back them up are robbing us absolutely blind. Is that working? That ‘big beautiful bill’ which is transferring trillions of dollars of trillion is so big I cannot get my head around that number and it’s not just one of those trillions it is four of those trillions adding to the deficit in the short term to the national debt over the long term so not you and me breathing this there right now. But your kids and grandkids and great grandkids and great great grandkids are going to be paying off the debt for money that we sent to the wealthiest people on the planet, bar none, who live in this country, the 1%.

And this is not just a new thing. I mean, Trump did this in his first term. But presidents of both parties have been complicit to a degree over the last five decades. $50 trillion dollar of wealth has moved from lower and middle inome and working Americans to the very wealthiest in this country. If I were part of that heist, I want you to look the other way as well. Right? So, I want you to imagine this, a future where we no longer have socialism for the rich in America. And instead, we make sure that those trillions flow to the people who actually created that wealth in the first place. The folks who work day in and day out in this country, some in states like mine earning $725 an hour. You don’t have one $7.25 an hour job. You have two or three. It’s the only way that you’re going to feed yourself, that you’re going to be able to pa rent, that you’re going to be able to provide for your kids. It is so wrong and it is so unnecessary. Imagine using some of those trillions to cure cancer or Alzheimer’s or the diseases that our loved ones are dying from right now. Imagine using those trillions to build millions of new homes across this country so that people can actually afford to live with their families with a roof over their head because they can’t afford to do it right now. Imagine using those trillions to the benefit of everybody in America. Again, we can do this. It is a function of political will. But to get there, we have to lay out that vision.

The last piece of it that I want to share with you, imagine a Democratic Party that actually fights for these things. that doesn’t submit, that doesn’t roll over, that doesn’t bend over, that doesn’t tell us the fight is over before it has even begun, but fights each and every single day on every front in every state in every county. And so, yes, we would love to see the Democratic Party continue to invest in Northern Virginia. You know, they’re going to go where they’ve always been successful, but how about central Virginia and coastal Virginia and Western Virginia? How about the places that have been written off or taken for granted altogether? And instead of those seven states that the Democratic Party poured $1 billion into and lost every single one of them, how about Mississippi, Alabama, or Texas, too, right? If you think about this, whether we want to agree with this or not, whether we like it or not, probably better said, Texas is our future. And it will either be a future of these extreme abortion bans, a state that leads the nation in school shootings. Nearly two years after the massacre at Uvality that claimed 19 lives, 19 beautiful children, and two teachers, not a single thing has changed in our state to make it any less likely that any other child meet that same fate. We are the state that is the least insured in the nation, that has refused to expand Medicaid even though we invented Medicaid in 1965 with LBJ. Either that is our future, or as Texas continues to pick up electoral college votes, which it will after this next census, and there will be no path to the White House for a Democrat unless we win it, we start investing and working and volunteering and meeting and registering those voters right now.

But if we wait until 2026, if we wait, god forbid, until 2028, if we wait till that census and the reaportionment, I think it will be too late. We have to work now. Which brings me to this. We have the vision. We have the dream. And it must be met with action. Action is the antidote to that despair that tempts us. It is the absolute key to the victory that we seek. And it cannot begin in 2026. And if it hasn’t already started for you, it has to begin today. In this room or just outside this room, there are volunteers who will sign you up and take your free hours this coming week to get out there and meet and register the voters who will decide the outcome of this next election in Virginia and ensure that Abigail Spanberger is the next governor of the great Commonwealth of Virginia. And so let’s make sure that we’re all doing that work right now. We cannot take anything for granted, any person for granted. Let’s get out there. Everyone is important. We talk and listen to each and every one of us. And let us no longer judge or cancel or excommunicate and instead say, ‘Look, if you voted for Donald Trump in this last election, we are glad that you are here today. If you voted for Kamala Harris, the same goes for you. If you did not vote for whatever reason, even better. We are here to listen and to learn from you to make sure that you have a reason to cast that ballot in 2025.

First, and then I’m going to turn this microphone over to you. There are some among us who will doubt whether any of this or certainly all of this is possible. And perhaps for all of us, there are those moments where we doubt whether any or all of this is possible. And I count myself among you. In these moments of doubt, I just want you to remember where we come from and who we are and what we’re made of. I mentioned Thomas Jefferson and the fact that we were just in Philadelphia last night. We are the people against the longest of odds who defeated the most powerful empire on planet earth to secure our independence.

And we did so not easily, not conveniently, not sitting on a couch, not in front of our phones. We did it by willing to by being willing to lay down our lives. And countless numbers did. It wasn’t but 80 years later that we faced another even bigger test. and more than 300,000 from the Union willingly laid down their lives to defeat the Confederacy and to end slavery in America.

We are those people. We are the people who in 1944 landed on those beaches in Normandy once again willing to lay down our lives to defeat fascism half a world away so that we could protect this fragile democracy here at home. And then in the next generation that followed in the 1960s, we marched, we protested, we stood up. Some lost their lives in the process to secure civil rights and voting rights. And we did that not because it was easy, as JFK reminded us, but because it was hard.

Think of the odds that each one of those generations faced. And the fact that they persevered and overcame them and triumphed and make us so godamn proud at this moment. 249 years of history flow into this room at this moment. We are the heirs to all of that struggle, to all of that service, to all of that sacrifice. And what we do with this inheritance, whether in Lincoln’s words, we noly save it or meanly lose it, is going to define us in the eyes of our kids. And it’s going to determine what is possible for America. So no pressure, but we cannot be found wanting at this moment of truth. We absolutely must come through.

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