Apparently, LaRouche supporters interrupted the Democrat debate tonight. I watched about three minutes of the debate, and the pander factor was so high at the historically black college that I could not take anymore (really- when Dean announced his favorite song was by Wyclef Jean and Lieberman vowed to keep fighting for ‘Dr. King’s message,’ I knew it was over the top). At any rate, some Democrats see a consipiracy with the demonstrators:
Members of the Morgan State community worried the hecklers’ exposure on national television would reflect poorly on the university.
“I think they gave Morgan a bad name, even though it wasn’t us being disruptive,” said junior Danielle Cotten, 20.
Deanna V. Ikhinmwin, the university’s director of community services, said the hecklers made her uncomfortable.
“You feel paranoid, with homeland security and terrorists – anything out of place, you get nervous,” she said. “Before the terrorists, you could laugh at this.”
Morgan State, a historically black university, was the site of the debate co-sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus and the Fox News Channel.
“This is a historic occasion – the first time that the CBC has hosted a debate at an HBCU,” candidate Al Sharpton said after one interruption. “Will you respect our time the way we respected yours?”
“Do they do that to Republicans?” asked former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun.
No, Carol- they don’t do that to Republicans. Normally the people interrupting Republicans are DEMOCRATS AND GREENS, with their assorted riff-raff ANSWER friends and other members of the Trotskyite left.
At any rate, from what I saw, the only thing that would make any of those candidates on stage look electable is a favorable comparison to LaRouche supporters, so all of them should be grateful those clowns showed up.
Sean Hackbarth
Does the Duck (Dean) even know who Wyclef Jean is?
M. Scott Eiland
The amusing thing about those seeing conspiracy is that LaRouche is a registered Democrat–always has been. I’ve often mused in the past about the possibility of a cooperative effort between the Republicans and Democrats, whereby the Democrats would grab LaRouche and the Republicans would grab David Duke, tie them both up, and toss them into a room full of rabid, starving pit bulls–after which it would be Miller Time. Win-win, I say.
Moe Lane
Put me down as endorsing Mr. Eiland’s proposal – provided that we’re permitted to drink something else besides Miller afterwards. I’ll happily supply my own, seeing as I’m the one making the objection.
mark
I watched last night, and the whole debate was a contest on which candidate could come up with the best “Bush-bashing one liner.”
Most amazing was Bob Graham. He was the most vicious of them all. And to think I once respected the man.
JT_Hunter
I had to turn it off just as soon as the first reference to Bush not being an elected presedent. Must be that the Dems really do not have anything new to say.
Kimmitt
What can I say? It takes a while to get over a coup.
David Perron
It appears Kimmitt has reentered his troll phase. Wonder if he’s synched up with the lunar cycle?
Robin Roberts
Evidently, David.
But JT has it correct, they had literally nothing to say.
Dean
I find it mind-boggling that people can state “It takes a long time to get over a coup,” yet it apparently takes no time at all to get over the murder of 3000 fellow-citizens or an attack on two of our cities.
Oh, sorry, I suppose it DOES take a long time to “understand why they hate us.”
Kimmitt
Look, I understand, deep down in my heart, that conservatives truly do not give a shit about democratic processes. That the important thing is that their person win and that people who do not share their views be kept, by whatever means necessary, from achieving elected office. I get it. I really do. But you’re going to have to deal with the fact that I am among the millions who remain enraged at the specious reasoning of “Bush v. Gore” which amounted to a palace coup. The case was not decided on any merits — the decision as handed down explicitly stated that no one could use it as precedent! Instead, a majority within the Supreme Court decided that it really wanted Bush to be President, so it would invent a new justification and section of electoral law, then keep it from being applied ever again.
The events of 2000 should give any decent American pause and a hunger for repair to an obviously damaged system. The fact that they do not give conservatives this motivation illustrates to me the basic right-wing contempt for democratic processes. I mean, at least give a rat’s ass about cleaning up the system!
But then, the same kind of reasoning applies to the latter criticism. After all, if I’m more interested in finding and bringing to justice the people who actually were behind the September 11th attacks, rather than some random tinpot dictator who was uninvolved, I must not be interested in protecting the American people. Why bother with reason or sense, when you’ve got an excuse to kill some more towelheads?
I can deal with John Cole. But his readers are contemptible.
Dean
And you, Kimmitt, are laughable.
I’ve seen your posts over at Misha’s, and other places in the blogosphere. That you believe, “deep down inside” that conservatives are, in fact, fascisti, if not downright Nazis, has been evident for the longest time.
Presumably, you don’t think blacks owe KKK members the benefit of the doubt. Why in the world should I give you any, if you’re going to “deep down inside” believe this tripe?
David Perron
I don’t make fun of Kimmitt’s elaborately constructed belief system unless he makes fun of mine. No fair, Dean.
Kimmitt
Again, you don’t give a rat’s ass about the fact that the election produced an ambiguous result which had the potential to provoke a Constitutional crisis — or that we simply do not know who won the election in Florida, New Hampshire, or New Mexico. Your guy won; that’s what matters. What y’all want isn’t democracy.
David Perron
Ah, but we do know who won. It’s you that doesn’t know. Apparently, ignorance is the opposite of bliss.
But since you responded, let’s examine your elaborately constructed belief system, ok?
-Look, I understand, deep down in my heart, that conservatives truly do not give a shit about democratic processes.
Lemme see…who was it that insisted on the hated butterfly ballots in Florida? Oh, yes. It was the Democratic supervisors of election. So much for giving a shit about the democratic process.
-That the important thing is that their person win and that people who do not share their views be kept, by whatever means necessary, from achieving elected office.
Whatever turns your crank, Kimmitt. This one appears to have you about 3000 RPM over intellectual redline.
-I get it. I really do.
No, you really don’t. But that’s not going to stop you, is it?
-But you’re going to have to deal with the fact that I am among the millions who remain enraged at the specious reasoning of “Bush v. Gore” which amounted to a palace coup.
Yeah, yeah. It was JUST like a palace coup. Troops, tanks, a mobilized population taking up arms… I get your rage, Kimmitt. I just think that it’s you that needs to deal with it, not me.
-Instead, a majority within the Supreme Court decided that it really wanted Bush to be President, so it would invent a new justification and section of electoral law, then keep it from being applied ever again.
Is this really an issue? I rather thought SCOTUS had done this a few times previously. Additionally, one could make the argument that a majority within SCOFL really wanted Gore to be President with just as much factual backing.
-The events of 2000 should give any decent American pause and a hunger for repair to an obviously damaged system.
Precisely why Florida Republicans pushed for and enacted electoral reform. Remember? Republicans, who don’t give a shit about the will o’ the peeple.
-I can deal with John Cole. But his readers are contemptible.
Thanks for caring enough to summon that level of emotion. I find I can’t be concerned enough to work myself up to contempt.
Kimmitt
Nice long post for that small amount of emotion.
For the record, some of the Florida voting reforms are excellent. But they still failed to address the lack of funds available in minority districts or the thousands of African-American men who were erroneously placed on an ex-felon list and therefore denied suffrage. Even when they clean up, Republicans keep their priorities in place.
David Perron
Whatever, Kimmitt. Just tell me what the Democrats in Florida have done to reform election polling in excess of what Republicans have done, and I’ll happily concede that you are correct.
Kimmitt
Florida Republicans control the House, Senate, and Executive mansion. Any onus for reform is on them.
David Perron
Of course! Why didn’t I think of that? Probably the Democrats can just be dismissed and replaced by Republicans, since they’re relieved of all responsibility to do anything at all. They had 120 years to get it right; Republicans only had four. So, I agree with you, Kimmitt. Shame on the Republicans for not getting it done sooner.
Kimmitt
That’s misleading, and you know it. In 1950, the Democrats were the Party of Jim Crow in Florida. The Party platforms have changed massively over the past 50 years, on both sides of the aisle.
David Perron
Point taken.
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