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You are here: Home / Popular Culture / The Tinkerbell Strategy?

The Tinkerbell Strategy?

by John Cole|  August 25, 20054:29 pm| 29 Comments

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Alright- I know what the Chewbacca Defense is, but I have no idea what the ‘Tinkerbell Strategy’ is…

Fill me in, please.

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  1. 1.

    Mr.Ortiz

    August 25, 2005 at 4:32 pm

    Without reading either of those links, I’m going to say it’s clapping your hands while chanting “I believe!”

  2. 2.

    Andrew J. Lazarus

    August 25, 2005 at 4:35 pm

    Mr. Ortiz is right, but I think particular reference is being made to the claim Tinkerbell is still dead because we didn’t clap loud enough.

  3. 3.

    texas dem

    August 25, 2005 at 4:43 pm

    Yep. It’s the name for the notion that if we all believe and cheer really hard, and hold “pro-troop” rallies and beat up those damn dissenting hippies, that we’ll win the war. And when we don’t, we’ll blame the hippies who wouldn’t clap loud enough.

    I have no idea why Yglesias titled that post “the Tinkerbell Strategy;” what he wrote had very little to do with it.

  4. 4.

    Otto Man

    August 25, 2005 at 4:47 pm

    What Andrew said. That Crooked Timber link is a good one.

    Essentially, it’s a term of derision that is applied to people who believe that we’ll succeed at something, in spite of all the bad news and depressing facts, if we just cheer hard enough. The flip side is the belief by these same people that any bad news or bad outcome is a result of people not clapping or cheering hard enough.

  5. 5.

    Tim F

    August 25, 2005 at 4:55 pm

    No matter how badly the management has run the war into the ground, we can still win if we clap loudly enough at home.

    This is in fact the dominant strategy of the pro-war right. We cannot, nea must no criticize our leaders or else Tinkerbell will die.

  6. 6.

    tBone

    August 25, 2005 at 5:04 pm

    So the debate over Iraq is now being couched in a metaphor involving cartoon characters. Sounds about right to me.

  7. 7.

    BinkyBoy

    August 25, 2005 at 5:12 pm

    its being run by cartoon characters, why not describe it in such terms as well?

    I can just see Yosemite Sam, his great mustache bristling, charging through a marketplace, guns blazing, never emptying.

    And that waskily wabbit, constantly throwing exploding carrots at him. Ah, the beautiful artistic humor of it.

  8. 8.

    Tim F

    August 25, 2005 at 5:22 pm

    I can just see Yosemite Sam, his great mustache bristling

    He’s hard to miss, we sent him to represent us at the UN.

    speaking of which…

  9. 9.

    BinkyBoy

    August 25, 2005 at 5:23 pm

    thanks Tim, I was wondering if I needed to spell it out :)

  10. 10.

    BumperStickerist

    August 25, 2005 at 5:28 pm

    In point of fact, the Tinkerbell stategy worked.

    Though, perhaps, Kos & Ko. have chopped a version of ‘Peter Pan’ such that Tink dies.

  11. 11.

    Tim F

    August 25, 2005 at 5:32 pm

    the Tinkerbell stategy worked

    The magic of Peter Pan was the way that so much of the magic happened in your own head. Keep clapping Bumpist.

  12. 12.

    BinkyBoy

    August 25, 2005 at 5:40 pm

    Its almost like Bumpist is a poor clone of DougJ, one with severe mental defects and a hump.

  13. 13.

    Off Colfax

    August 25, 2005 at 5:42 pm

    Personally, I think of the Tinkerbell Strategy more along the lines of “Just think happy thoughts, and you can fly!” And I’m not that big of a defender of the line anyways.

    It’s not snarky enough.

    Go with the Pinnochio line instead. “When you wish upon a star…” Has the added benefit of making people’s noses grow uncontrollably, which should give Jon Stewart some good lines.

  14. 14.

    Andrew J. Lazarus

    August 25, 2005 at 5:48 pm

    Bumpersticker, try clicking my previous link. It seems even on stage, clapping doesn’t always cut it.

  15. 15.

    Shygetz

    August 25, 2005 at 6:01 pm

    BinkyBoy Says:

    Its almost like Bumpist is a poor clone of DougJ, one with severe mental defects and a hump.

    So, it’s almost like Bumpist is an exact replica of DougJ!

  16. 16.

    BinkyBoy

    August 25, 2005 at 6:21 pm

    No no, DougJ has mad skillz. Look how many people fall for his line every day, even after reading his comments for months! He’s brilliant. Bumpist is just a pale shadow of DougJ, a retarded sidekick, if you will.

  17. 17.

    Tim F

    August 25, 2005 at 6:43 pm

    Jeesh, no need for piling-on. I disagree with Bumpist and snark at him liberally but I’d never compare him with DougJ. Assuming that he’s real the Dougster belongs to a class by himself.

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    Tim F

    August 25, 2005 at 6:47 pm

    Personally, I think of the Tinkerbell Strategy more along the lines of “Just think happy thoughts, and you can fly!” And I’m not that big of a defender of the line anyways.

    It comes from the passage late in the play when Tinkerbell drinks poison to keep it away from Peter Pan. The only way to save her is for the audience to show how much they believe in fairies by clapping. Somebody uses a rheostat to ‘wake up’ Tink as the clapping gets louder. Works on many levels.

  19. 19.

    Profbacon

    August 25, 2005 at 7:18 pm

    In point of fact, the Tinkerbell stategy worked.

    Um… see ing as there is no tinkerbell. Tinkerbell and the neo-con dream are just that, dreams, flights of fancy, childish hopes that parents indulge. The neo-cons have been indulged too long.

    Tinkerbell isn’t dead, the bitch never existed.

  20. 20.

    Jim Caputo

    August 25, 2005 at 7:20 pm

    I guess when shit is flying at you from all sides (including your own people), you’re willing to try anything. Bush has to be shitting in his pants over his poll numbers. The self-proclaimed capital that he thought he’d won last November has faded away like so much fairie dust.

    There’s an entertaining article on CapitolHillBlue.com today. If the sources for this article have relayed accurate information, then it’s pretty scary.

    Here are a few excerpts…

    “I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”

    Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them “motherfucking traitors.”

    He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore “bullshit protectors” over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to “tell those VFW assholes that I’ll never speak to them again is they can’t keep their members under control.”

  21. 21.

    Geoduck

    August 25, 2005 at 10:07 pm

    Anything CapitalHillBlue says should be taken with a shakerfull of salt; they’ve been massively burned by a source at least once.

  22. 22.

    BumperStickerist

    August 25, 2005 at 11:13 pm

    Nothing like being called a retarded sidekick by a self-designated ‘BinkyBoy’ to put teh intertrons all into perspective. Thought having somebody mention that Tinkerbell never actually existed is a bonus – sort of calls the Left’s use of that non-reality-based icon into question, so

    …. anyway, I’d like to propose a counter-meme to the ‘TinkerBell Strategy’, one that describes the approach favored by the Democrats and their fellow travellers.

    Call theirs “The Tonto Gambit” or the ‘What’s This We, White Man?’ (WTW,WM?) Strategy.

  23. 23.

    John S.

    August 26, 2005 at 8:53 am

    Bumpist-

    You live up to your name.

    Your comments aren’t intelligent enough to be taken seriously in this forum, but are pithy enough to inhabit a $1 bumper sticker on the back window of a car.

    Keep up the good work.

  24. 24.

    Bob

    August 26, 2005 at 9:35 am

    The post is about the liberal hawks, and how they’re kind of out of touch. Shinseki said we needed a half-million troops to win the peace in Iraq. Otherwise, chaos and civil war. You know, like we have.

    The problem is that there aren’t a half-million US combat troops. That’s where the unreality comes in. In order to put 500,000 soldiers into Iraq the US would have had to convince its allies to join in this foolhardiness or would have had to created a draft. That’s where the Tinkerbelle comes in. Neither of these things were going to happen, so instead of supporting an alternative way to have waged a war that wasn’t going to happen, and still isn’t going to happen, the liberal hawks who wish to rejoin the reality-based community would do better to just say that the US did not have sufficient combat forces to occupy a country that big.

    Better to stick with the Grenadas if we want to occupy a country.

    Of course, that would be an admission of the limitations of our military might. We can bomb the shit out of you, but once you crawl out of your rubble we can’t occupy you, you stubborn world, you.

  25. 25.

    John S.

    August 26, 2005 at 10:06 am

    The post is about the liberal hawks, and how they’re kind of out of touch.

    Damn that’s funny Bob.

    The liberal hawks are out of touch? Maybe.

    But the conservative hawks are definitely out of touch. A British general over 100 years ago theorized that for every 100 civilians you need 1 soldier to control an area, and that formula holds true even today.

    Out of touch is knowing you need more troops than you have, and sending what you’ve got in anyway – consequences be damned.

    While we’re at it, let’s have a land war in Asia or attack Russia in the middle of Winter. We know we can’t win either of those scenarios either, but we have to prove we’ve got the balls to do it, right?

  26. 26.

    BinkyBoy

    August 26, 2005 at 11:17 am

    I’m still clapping. My hands are bleeding.

    When will I forget how right the liberals have been about iraq?

  27. 27.

    jobiuspublius

    August 26, 2005 at 2:06 pm

    Zee Tinker Bell Strategy, is the heart and soul of the snake oil industry. You think heroine sales are a big part of the world economy? You don’t want to know about snake oil. Oi!

  28. 28.

    Andrew J. Lazarus

    August 27, 2005 at 12:11 pm

    You think heroine sales are a big part of the world economy?

    I’d like to buy a heroine. Send details quick.

  29. 29.

    goonie bird

    August 28, 2005 at 9:12 pm

    Of course fairies exist who else cuases trouble for the liberal weenies?

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