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I loathe that woman.
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These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.
Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.
“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”
The unpunished coup was a training exercise.
Washington Post Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.
No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.
People are complicated. Love is not.
Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity
One lie, alone, tears the fabric of reality.
… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact
It’s the corruption, stupid.
Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.
When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.
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This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.
Their freedom requires your slavery.
With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.
We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.
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Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.
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We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.
There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.
“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”
Pb
Then we agree. Why does she have a show, and who watches it? Other crazy bitches? It must be the Dr. Laura demographic, which I’ve never understood.
Davebo
A link to the actual post should anyone be interested.
Andrew
I blame the liberal media.
Pug
Nancy Grace and Wendy Murphy. They’re despicable! [in best Daffy Duck voice].
Faux News
loathsome is a perfect adjective to describe this creature called Nancy (dis)Grace.
Pb
Scarborough actually ran with that one last night (“Nancy Disgrace?”), it was fun to watch. He had three panel members on, only one of whom actually supported Nancy Grace, and only then at the end. Joe can be a dick sometimes, but it was nice watching him use that to stick it to Grace, nonetheless.
Punchy
OT–
MR COLE–WHERE’S THE WV/UM THREAD? GAME TIME IN A FEW HOURS, EH? Or are you only a Pitty fan?
Krista
She’s absolutely vile. And on a more practical note, I’m betting the investigators aren’t too thrilled with her for having driven their best source of information in that case to suicide.
The Other Steve
Oh man, I thought you were talking about the Dog the Bounty Hunter arrested thread, as it was on top.
I’m no fan of Nancy Grace. She’s a nasty woman, and I don’t think she’s at all helpful.
You know, I actually liked Greta Vansustern before she went over to Fox.
canuckistani
I glimpsed her on CNN during the post Jon-Benet nut escapade; she was furious because, as far as I could tell, releasing a whacko who could not have killed Jon-Benet made it impossible for any other progress to ever be made in the case. It made no sense to me, but I watched for a few minutes and thought “Man.. are you ever desperate to be outraged. I guess dismissed charges are real ratings killers.”
Kimmitt
This is completely irrelevant to the fact that Michael Moore is fat.
DougJ
I loathe her as well. She’s truly awful.
carpeicthus
I am so glad I have no idea who she is.
jg
I bet she has the same audience as Jerry Springer and Judge Judy. Not that that makes Michael Moore any slimmer.
scs
I tell you who likes her – me. I saw the whole thing, and I support Nancy Grace. She had the mother on of the missing child and was acting very supportive of her. Until the BS started. First Nancy asked if she had taken a polygraph or if the police asked her to. The mother hemmed and hawed, ala Scott Peterson, saying she wasn’t working with the police, the police told her not to tell, etc. Nancy asked the father- he immediately said they did, he took it, and the police never told him not to say whether he did.
Then Nancy asked her where she was the day before. The mother said she was driving around with her son, and she went shopping. Nancy asked her politely where she drove around and where she went shopping. Nancy was like- name one store you went into because it may help people out there remember something. The woman hemmed and hawed again, saying the police told her not to tell. I think Nancy then asked the father if that was true and he said no it wasn’t.
Now come on. What more do we need – even though there was more about the window screen, etc. The story didn’t add up. Nancy figured it out as well and started asking her in a harsh voice- WHY won’t you tell us what stores you went into if it will help your child? Why don’t you want to help your child?”
I think it was an appropriate question given the cirumstance. See what you all don’t get is Nancy is tough, if you consider being honest about criminals tough. Thank god there is someone out there willing to speak up for victims. I think it’s pretty safe to say we know what the women’s suicide means. She knew she was called out on national TV by Nancy Grace. There was no hiding from that.
chopper
yes. it means she suffered from extreme depression.
rbl
scs,
First of all, GFY
Second, polygraph tests are inaccurate, they measure stress,
Third, maybe the father didn’t know everything about the case, especially considering that they were going through a divorce at the time.
Fourth, she was lured into thinking Nancy Grace was understanding, and then ambushed.
Fifth, not everyone is a good enough public speaker that they can handle being accused of murder on national television articulately.
Sixth, Nancy Grace isn’t honest about criminals, she is obsessed with presumed guilt, facts be damned. See the JonBennet guy for further proof.
Seventh, It’s NOT HER JOB to interrogate witnesses on national TV, if anything, it hinders prosecutions by making fair trials more difficult and messing with persons of interest.
Eighth, I assume that if/when someone else is implicated and the mother is exonerated, you will come back here and appologize to all of us for subjecting us to your glaring wrongness, and then write a letter of condolences to the family, appoligizing that you would ever watch, and therefore encourage, filth like Nancy Grace. Or not.
Ninth, ALWAYS presume innocence until proven otherwise. Or, at least, respect that that is the way our system works, and is how it should work.
scs
First of all, she never really suspected that Jon Benet guy- she made it clear she was suspicious of his story. Second of all, I will bet a million dollars that mother either killed or child or knew what happened to her child. She wouldn’t have acted like that otherwise. If she is found innocent, I will eat my hat.
I guess the really sad thing is that now that she’s dead, it will make it harder to figure out just what happened to the little boy.
Jackmormon
Jesus Christ, that’s heartless.
capelza
Whenever I accidentally see Nancy Grace (just can’t hit the remote button fast enough)..I think she would be a perfect host for one of those sci-fi game shows where criminals are there for the entertainment of the drooling masses.
capelza
I left out an important word..make that ALLEGED criminals…who needs a jury or actual evidence when you got Nancy.
Krista
It’s a talk show, not a courtroom. Her job is not to determine innocence or guilt. She browbeated a mother who was going through every mother’s worst nightmare — a missing child.
If you ever have children, and suffer the horrible misfortune of losing your child, and then have total strangers accusing you, on national television, of killing your child, then perhaps you might be in a position to pronounce judgement on how eloquent and persuasive one should be under such circumstances. Until then, you’re only coming across as a heartless jerk, much like your heroine.
HyperIon
AND she has a cornpone accent.
why am i not surprised?
Larry
You are quite right, of course. Truth is, millions of dollars and a lot of time could be saved by quickly and judiciously trying cases on television.
Tell me one real courtroom that works better than the one on Judge Judy?
Fancy lawyers and fancy judges aren’t necessary when you have straight-talking tv show anchors.
I don’t know why people give you such a hard time.
scs
And you’re coming off as a shallow thinker again. Nancy Grace never accused her of killing her child. She asked her aggressively what stores she shopped in the day before.
A little bit different, don’t you think?
The Other Steve
Welcome to Stalin’s America.
Evilbeard
I seriously doubt any reasonable human being could see that and not come away thinking that Nancy Grace was insinuating the mother had something to do with the disappearance of her child.
The Amazing Jambi
Scs, do you perhaps have prior experience in law enforcement? As a profiler perhaps? If not, please keep your assumptions to yourself. As for Nancy Grace, I find her vile, but she’s hardly the only one. Our modern media is ghoulish and this sort of trash sells. Of course, the public eats it all up…yet another reason I no longer watch TV.
DougJ
Who’s writing scs? Seriously. There’s no way she’s real.
DougJ
Because anyone who hems and haws is likely a murderer. That’s like saying “went to McDonald’s, a la OJ Simpson.”
Pb
We have found the Nancy Grace demographic!
The Other Steve
scs is Barbara Bush.
Cyrus
scs, have you seen the clip of Nancy Grace and Elizabeth Smart? If her conduct there is motivated by anything other than ghoulish, sociopathic ratings-mongering, then you’ll eat my hat.
My best guess is she started out as real, and some/most of the outrageous things she says are real, but at some point during Schiavo she heard the seductive siren song of trolling (or more charitably, spoofing. I seem to remember she’s come right out and said she’d like the latter). But who knows?
Krista
Oh, so sorry, my bad. She didn’t have a total stranger, accusing her on national television of killing her child. Instead, she had a total stranger, insinuating on national television that she was suspect in her child’s disappearance.
My, that makes all the difference in the world! Why, if I was in her shoes, I wouldn’t have been in the least bit upset about being cross-examined, like a suspect, during the most nightmarish thing a parent can go through.
Pb
What are the odds that scs *is* Nancy Grace?
dedgeorge
“…scs Says:
I tell you who likes her – me. I saw the whole thing, and I support Nancy Grace. …”
scs :
Nancy, don’t you have more important things to do (such as prepare for the upcoming lawsut filed against you by Melinda Duckett’s relatives for intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress upon Mrs Duckett or aiding a suicide by your actions) rather than hanging around various blogs writing letters supportive of yourself which were supposedly contributed by some third party?
I thought that dishonest ploy was exposed by the Mary Ware disclosures…..
kchiker
Tom in Texas
I find it absolutely unbelievable that the same woman who insists that no evidence is enough to show Schiavo was beyond help finds a tabloid TV hosts’ baseless accusations enough evidence to convict a young woman. How quickly you lost your profound respect for innocence, the rule of law, and life.
Larry
Luckily, none of that is a requirement for posting here.
scs
A couple fallacies in your argument “Tom”. One we were going to let Terri die, hence I would think you’d need a lot of evidence there 2, I am not on the jury of Melinda Duckett, it’s a TV talk show. I am allowed to draw my own conclusions based on my perceptions of the woman’s behaviours, just like I am with anyone else I see or meet.
scs
I don’t see how aggressively asking her where she went shopping = you killed your child. If anything, it insinuates she is not forthcoming and straight about information about her child. And that was obviously true. Still not the same as saying “you killed your child”.
DougJ
What about all the autopsies that showed that Clinton’s brain was mush? The liberals don’t like to talk about that, do they?
VidaLoca
scs —
However, to accuse somebody of murder — why, we hardly need any evidence at all!
That kind of stuff is easy, we can do it right on TV!
I really hope, in the disastrous circumstance that you ever get called for jury duty, you at least have the tiny speck of integrity it would take to repeat that.
lard lad
From personal experience, I can assure you that people like scs get tapped for jury duty every day… it’s one reason why our prison population is one of the highest in the world.
And by the way, Nancy Grace is garbage wrapped in skin.
CaseyL
Nancy Grace appeals to the same kind of people who gawk at lethal car accidents, hang around bar rights hoping to see someone get killed, and want executions to be televised.
Kimmitt
All of whom are Democrats, of course.
chopper
and piss into empties in their own living rooms.