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I Guess The VP Negotiations Went Poorly

by John Cole|  May 23, 20085:47 pm| 188 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

Do Hillary’s remarks today mean we can stop all the Hillary as VP nonsense and we don’t have to pretend she is like “OMG THE SMARTEST LIKE WOMAN IN THE WORLD” anymore?

Because along with ending her tedious “anything can happen” campaign that is now several months old, those other two would be welcome developments.

Consider this an open thread.

*** Update ***

Here is the apology video:

It starts with the Clintonian non-apology apology (Sorry if any of you rubes misunderstood me, but, gee, shucks, I was just tired from working so hard on your gas tax holiday! Plus, it is Friday and you know how I love my shots of Crown!), and then just devolves into babble and nonsense. Not to mention, she fails to apologize to Obama (I bet Michelle is just pissed right now).

One thing I do see, though, and have not seen this entire campaign- fear. You can see it in her eyes. She knows she has shit the bed with this one, and that is why she is reeling and babbling about holding Kennedy’s seat.

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And Now For Some Good News

by John Cole|  May 23, 20084:27 pm| 80 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

While we all digest the latest outburst of craziness from Hillary, I would like to announce some really good news for the website.

He was supposed to announce this yesterday, I waited 24 hours, and since he has not done it himself, I am doing it:

Tim F. passed his thesis defense on Thursday and is now-

DR. TIM F.

Congrats, Doctor!

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A New Low

by John Cole|  May 23, 20082:49 pm| 350 Comments

This post is in: I Can No Longer Rationally Discuss The Clinton Campaign, Assholes

Hillary is breaking barriers alright, with yet another victory for feminism:

Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it,” she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Sociopath. What else can you really say?

*** Update ***

Yep, I watched the video (link here to the POS video player) and she said it, while claiming she was a victim because all the mean people are trying to push her out of the race she can’t win. Video here, probably about 20 mins in and after the energy talk.

Pretty amazing. Hillary is now claiming that she is partially justified staying in the race because let’s face it- someone might kill Obama.

Stay classy, Hillary.

*** Update #2 ***

Video:

*** Update #2 ***

The Rude Pundit, discussing Clinton’s RFK gaffe:

To Clinton’s campaign and its supporters, who have been holding out for some gaffe by Obama that would take him down: How’s that working out for ya?

Yeah, really. They have been waiting for something big to happen to change this race. Merry Christmas.

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Dingoes Ate My Website

by John Cole|  May 23, 20082:32 pm| 55 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

Sorry for the outages, and we will be moving to a new platform in the next month or so, and we need to discuss what kind of platform to move to, becuase I am clueless. Some of you have suggested scoop. I only have several requirements:

Better performance
The ability to import the archives
Ease of use for the user
The ability to use video, audio, and polls
And comments that will not be rated (I hate it when comments are troll rated)

For now, though, we will have to deal with the Denial of Service attacks from the Great Orange Satan. Bastard.

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Like Three Little Fonzies

by John Cole|  May 23, 20082:28 pm| 31 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, I Can No Longer Rationally Discuss The Clinton Campaign

Yeah, you mocked me a couple weeks ago when I likened the current primary to a hostage crisis. Who is laughing now:

In a move that could foreshadow a public push from the Hillary forces to get Barack Obama to invite her on the ticket, Hillary’s top campaign fundraising official said in an interview that there’s a “risk” that Hillary’s political and financial supporters won’t get behind Obama in time for him to win in November if she’s passed over for the veep slot.

The fundraiser, businessman Hassan Nemazee, is Hillary’s leading finance chair and one of the most influential money men in the party. He’s the first prominent Hillary campaign official to raise the possiblity of an Obama loss should she not be invited on the ticket, and his comments suggests that this argument could emerge as central to any Clinton camp push to make her veep.

“There’s a desire on the part of the party to come together under any circumstances, and Hillary and her supporters will do everything in their power to help Obama win, should he become the nominee, whether or not she’s on the ticket,” Nemazee said to me this morning.

It is pretty clear what is going on- after the suffrage/Zimbabwe/civil rights/Florida 2000 nonsense of the other day, we see published reports that Bill Clinton is pushing behind the scenes for the VP slot for Hillary, Clinton surrogates are filing lawsuits (which will be laughed out of court), threats from prominent supporters that just any other woman on the ticket won’t do, and yet another push from the big money Clinton backers (remember the threats launched at Pelosi earlier this spring) as noted above shows what the clear game plan is- show the DNC and Obama what nuclear means, and now CNN is reporting there are formal talks under way to negotiate a spot for her on the ticket (both campaigns deny this report).

To unify the party, of course.

Take it away, Hilzoy:

I have been thinking about Clinton’s conduct ever since she compared her efforts to get the Florida and Michigan votes counted to abolitionists, suffragists, and the current crisis in Zimbabwe. I agree with Josh Marshall that her attempts to gin up resentment and a sense that the nomination was stolen from her are toxic. Even Ezra Klein, who has been a lot more open to Clinton than many people, has concluded that she is trying to ensure that Obama loses. Since then, there have been a lot of stories wondering what on earth she is up to. And while I haven’t heard what the NYPost describes as a “Groundswell Of Calls For O-Hill Union”, there has definitely been a groundswell of stories about that alleged groundswell, much of which seems to be coming from the Clinton campaign itself. There have also been a lot of stories asking: what does Obama need to do to keep her on board?

Note what’s missing here: any sense that Clinton herself is a responsible moral agent. People are writing about her as though she were a bomb that needed to be expertly defused, as opposed to a person who can govern her own life, and is responsible for her own choices.

***

Instead, she’s throwing tantrums, making demands that she has no right to make, and threatening civil war.

I can’t imagine a better demonstration of why she should not be President or Vice President. Nor can I imagine a better demonstration of why some of us who are committed feminists are not happy with her as our standard-bearer. She lost. It happens. If she were an adult or a professional, she would deal with it. Apparently, she is neither.

I don’t know if there are actual negotiations going on, but the rest of this post is completely verifiable. She has shown that she will blow the party up if it suits her needs, and people should stop trying to analyze the Clinton campaign and listen to Rachel Maddow:

After the primary calendar has ended, Clinton’s campaign can only justify or explain her staying in the race if she makes the case that the Democratic Party still has not chosen a nominee conclusively. Clinton needs an argument that the game should go into extra innings. Overtime. Bonus round. Detention. Whatever. Clinton has now found that argument — she says she will not stop campaigning until the issue of the Florida and Michigan delegates is settled to her satisfaction.

The Florida/Michigan issue get settled, of course, by the Democrats’ Rules and Bylaws Committee… unless of course that committee’s decision gets appealed to the Credentials Committee… unless of course that decision, too, gets appealed… to the floor of the convention.

Do you see where this is going? If there is an open, unresolved procedural issue involving the Florida and Michigan delegations, Senator Clinton will be able to cite that as her justification for staying in the race until the convention even though she is not ahead in the nomination contest at the end of the primary calendar.

This is not about party, or country, or overcoming sexism and glass ceilings, or fairness, or following the rules, or even about counting every vote or whatever other bullshit the Clinton campaign chums the water with the next few weeks. This is not about principles, this is about Hillary.

Quite the victory for feminism.

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Early Afternoon Open Thread

by Michael D.|  May 23, 200812:43 pm| 29 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

So the police helicopter is flying above my house and there are a few patrol cars around. Obviously looking for someone. I think I’ll go outside and see what’s going on (as Darwin smiles upon me.)

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Don’t Know Much About History

by John Cole|  May 23, 200811:36 am| 12 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Republican Stupidity

Buried within this hissy-fit by John Hawkins over John McCain’s position on immigration is this gem:

Put very simply: John McCain is a liar. He’s a man without honor, without integrity, who could not have captured the Republican nomination had he run on making comprehensive immigration a top priority of his administration. Quite frankly, this is little different from George Bush, Sr. breaking his “Read my lips, no new taxes pledge,” except that Bush’s father was at least smart enough to wait until he got elected before letting all of his supporters know that he was lying to them.

What ahistorical nonsense. This is completely different from Bush 41, who did campaign after making an anti-tax pledge, but, as leaders often do, they sometimes have to put aside campaign promises and reverse course when reality on the ground dictates that they do.

Bush, faced with a recession, a rising deficit, and a hostile Congress, and confined by Graham-Rudman-Hollings, had two choices- he had to either make deep cuts that neither party favored (and probably would not pass Congress), or he had to cut a deal. And cut a deal he did. You might want to look into this time period- some really interesting names show up- Dick Darman, Dan Rostenkowski, John O’Neill, etc.

But back to the point- this is nothing like the Bush tax pledge- Bush wasn’t secretly excited about raising taxes, it was something he did out of necessity. To the contrary, it appears that McCain is quite clearly running on a platform of immigration reform. Were this to be “little different” from Bush, McCain would need to run on the anti-immigration rhetoric you all want to hear and then, in the middle of his administration shift course.

I really don’t know how people who claim to be Republican die-hards would not remember this pretty important piece of the GOP collective history, although I suspect it is part of the effort to maintain the Reagan legacy as someone who did nothing but slash taxes (also nonsense- the great gizgoogle can lead you to all sorts of interesting things, such as TEFRA, the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the Omnibus Reconciliation Acts from the time period-notably 85 and 87, and so on), and it was the elder Bush who came along and betrayed conservative principles and started raising taxes.

Back to the point. As James Joyner points out, this isn’t even a switch for McCain:

McCain is not feeling his way around on this one. He’s represented a border state in the Senate for 31 years and has been a passionate leader on this issue. Why would anyone think he’d turned 180 degrees in the middle of a presidential run? For that matter, why would they want to trust the leadership of their country to someone who had?

Instead, he took his beating on the issue like a man, announced that he’d learned that he’s not going to get his way without addressing the security issue first, but reiterated that he thinks we need a comprehensive, humanitarian approach to the problem.

No wonder all these folks can do when asked to recite history is break out their “USA #1” foam finger and scream “appeaser.” That being said, maybe it is a good thing they do not remember history, as it was widespread conservative disapproval with Bush that helped lead to his defeat. If conservative outrage over immigration is going to help lead to President Obama, I am more than ok with that.


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