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The gop is a fucking disgrace.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

Even though I know this is a bad idea, I’m off to do it anyway!

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.

We need to vote them all out and restore sane Democratic government.

If you still can’t see these things even now, maybe politics isn’t your forte and you should stop writing about it.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”

American History and Black History can not be separated.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Consistently wrong since 2002

with the Kraken taking a plea, the Cheese stands alone.

If you are in line to indict donald trump, stay in line.

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  2. 2.

    Jon H

    I hope SNL does a skit with a Jindal person making light of the Democrats’ crazy spending on "something called an aereo plane" and (air quotes)"horseless carriages".

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    Hah: Hannity won Countdown’s Worst Person in the World for the "Is it time to shell Fort Sumter" poll that was written about here earlier. Does Olbermann read this blog?

    -dms

  6. 6.

    themis

    @dmsilev: No kidding. I almost don’t have to bother watching Countdown because I’ve read the blogs. Hi interns!

    John and other furminator converts – I’m considering buying one based on the recs here. Any multi-use side effects?

  7. 7.

    Martin

    John and other furminator converts – I’m considering buying one based on the recs here. Any multi-use side effects?

    Not that we’ve seen. We have a corgi and have used it frequently the last 2 years – it’s just wonderful. If you have a dog, keep it out of reach because the handle is nice and chewy.

  8. 8.

    TenguPhule

    How is Tunch doing?

    Do we have to ask how the orbital battlestation is doing when we can just look out the window and check for ourselves?

  12. 12.

    themis

    @Martin: Good to know. I have cats but they are also chewers (mostly fingers, toes and plastic garbage liners).

    I’ve tried a few things over the years, but since I moved to places that actually have winter the shedding situation is getting crazy. I look good in black… I don’t look so good in black with orange, gray and white fur.

  13. 13.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    I hope SNL does a skit with a Jindal person making light of the Democrats’ crazy spending on "something called an aereo plane" and (air quotes)"horseless carriages".

    I strongly endorse this measure. Lorne Michaels should have the guy who plays Kenneth the Page on speed dial.

  15. 15.

    Ella in NM

    Got nothing to say? Pasty Jerry does:

    Jerome Corsi, author of the anti-Obama book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," remains (shockingly) unconvinced by the president’s first month in office.

    Speaking in the halls of the Conservative Political Action Conference here in Washington D.C., the libertarian author, who caused a brief campaign stir with the publication of his book, said that multiple questions and concerns remain, on everything from Obama’s politics to his citizenship.

    Asked by the Huffington Post whether recent comments by Sen. Richard Shelby – in which he seemingly questions Obama’s nationality – were fair game or whether the country needed to move beyond the issue, Corsi sided with the Alabama Republican.

    "It is not going off the table because people care about the Constitution. And it is in the Constitution that a president needs to be nationally born," he replied. "It is not settled. Barack Obama has not released his natural birth certificate.

    Oh, great.

    It’s no longer enough for the TFH crowd to demand he produce the original paper copy of his birth certificate for their personal examination.

    Now to be a citizen of the United States he has to prove his mother gave birth to him vaginally and with no pain meds.

    Fuck! These guys mean bidness!

  16. 16.

    Quicksand

    I hope SNL does a skit with a Jindal person making light of the Democrats’ crazy spending on "something called an aereo plane" and (air quotes)"horseless carriages".

    Maybe they can re-dub some old Phil Hartman Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

    "I’m just a caveman. Your modern magnetic levitation and volcano monitoring frighten and confuse me!"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfrozen_Caveman_Lawyer

  17. 17.

    Comrade Jake

    Obama really does need to invent a time machine so that he can transport people to Hawaii the year he was born, so they can be witnesses. If we can get a dozen witnesses, then the debate will be settled. Until then, it’s a slap in the face to all Americans. /wingnut

  20. 20.

    GSD

    Blow up the Coit Tower!

    Plant a truck bomb at the NY Times!

    Take ten stories off of the UN Building!

    Bomb. bomb.bomb.bomb. Iran!

    Nuke Chicago!

    Your conservative minds at work.

    -GSD

  22. 22.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @Ella in NM: I really don’t think so. I remember when there were people — quite a few, actually — who used to go around talking about how the Federal Reserve Note and the Income Tax were unconstitutional. They were quite serious about it. There are still people going around saying these things.

    But the thing is, they are totally marginalized and ignored.

    The fools you are talking about are in that same category.

    Just ignore them.

  23. 23.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @Dennis-SGMM: I like that bumper sticker. I am in favor of cutting Tennessee and a couple other states loose. Let them form their own stupid country. And by that I mean, a country of stupid. They are adding no value to the USA at this point, are they?

    This kind of thing just speeds up the arrival of that day, I think.

  28. 28.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    "It is not settled. Barack Obama has not released his natural birth certificate.

    I love it. First it was a birth certificate, then it was the vault copy of the birth certificate (whatever that is)*, now it’s the natural birth certificate (whatever that is).

    Coming up: fReichtards demand to see Obama’s Supertriplegoogleplex Birth Certificate, his Jesus Certified Birth Certificate and his navel to make sure he’s human.

    *With a brief interlude to wrangle over whether a Certificate of Live Birth is the same as a birth certificate.

  31. 31.

    Fern

    @themis:

    I think if someone designed a line of attractive, but cat-hair-coloured clothing, they would be doing an act of kindness.

  33. 33.

    gbear

    Salma Hayek is naked on 30 Rock. Looking at you. Only you…
    and thinking ‘I don’t think so’

    reality
    sigh

  34. 34.

    Dennis-SGMM

    @TheHatOnMyCat:
    Some of the Southern-state wingers love to mutter about secession but muttering is as far as it ever gets. We could kill two birds with one stone though and promise every voter down there a brand new Ford, Chevy or Chrysler pickup if they vote to secede.

  38. 38.

    John Cole

    This is kind of sad. Some predator jumped into my uncle’s backyard, grabbed his papillon and killed it. He went looking for it, could not find it, and found it a way away dead and mangled.

    A papillon must look like a lure to a predator, but it still sucks.

  41. 41.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @Dennis-SGMM:

    I am convinced now that Republicans are the American version of the Cargo Cult.

    They just get by on magical thinking. They think that something called the Smaller Government and the Tax Cut will bring them the riches from the deities to which they are entitled.

  42. 42.

    themis

    @John Cole: Wow. Any idea what the predator was?

    (Pardon me if this is obvious to the regulars here – I’m new).

    Whatever it was, my condolences to your family. That is just really sad.

  43. 43.

    Josh Hueco

    @Dennis-SGMM:

    We could kill two birds with one stone though and promise every voter down there a brand new Ford, Chevy or Chrysler pickup if they vote to secede.

    Only if they’re those new government cars that are supposed to be Teh Evil Porkyouless.

  44. 44.

    Conservatively Liberal

    Salma Hayek is naked on 30 Rock and in my bed.
    How does it get better than that?

    Fix’t.

  46. 46.

    TheFountainHead

    Clearly, John, it gets better than that.

    Sorry about your Uncle’s critter. Even in domesticated animals it’s impossible to suppress that, "Small creature is running from me, must kill it!" instinct.

  47. 47.

    themis

    @TheFountainHead:

    Stoopid intertubez and its gender-masking!

    No problem. I’m convinced that in 6 months, all internet gender will be wiped out and we’ll all be Dude… or Republicans.

  48. 48.

    Ned R.

    Dang, sorry John. :-/ Horrid stuff.

    I’m feeling pretty good tonight — my latest article’s published, my birthday’s coming up, payday’s tomorrow, hung out with a cool person last night, got a lot of work done today, etc. AND I had a good time on here making fun of fools at CPAC and elsewhere. All good.

  49. 49.

    themis

    @Fern:

    I think if someone designed a line of attractive, but cat-hair-coloured clothing, they would be doing an act of kindness.

    I agree, but as much as I adore my orange cat, I will never ever look good in orange. I’ve attended or worked at a lot of universities, and Oklahoma State and Princeton taught me that I should never wear orange. Not even as a spray-on tan. Now if they could genetically manufacture a robin’s-egg blue cat, then we’re talking!

  50. 50.

    Comrade Stuck

    @John Cole:

    AT first I thought a predator killed your uncle’s butterfly. Google comes to rescue once again. And that is sad. They are cute little canines.

  51. 51.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Comrade Stuck: Yeah, me you and one million nine hundred ninety nine thousand and nine hundred and ninety eight folks had to look it up. I guess "dog" is too ambiguous.

  53. 53.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @TheFountainHead: I think John is laughing his ass off that he can make people here talk with long faces about his uncle’s dead dog.

    Next week it will be an old army buddy who has sciatica.

  55. 55.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @TheFountainHead: No, but Teh Google said two million people searched for "What is a papillon" and who am I to argue with that kind of BOB-like mathematical precision?

  56. 56.

    gbear

    You think that many people read this blog?

    It may be that many hits per day, but it’s only because the 200 regular readers check in 10,000 times per day each.

  58. 58.

    themis

    @Ned R.: Just read the article – nicely done.

    I will admit that, musically, I’ve been a little stuck in the things I know. I usually discover new music by dating really cool, yet clueless, musicians who are way too young (in intellect, not years) to figure out that cool doesn’t mean good. (and yes, I mean that in the several ways it can be interpreted)

    Thanks for the link. Will bookmark that space for future education.

  60. 60.

    Conservatively Liberal

    A papillon must look like a lure to a predator, but it still sucks.

    More like a snack. Sorry to hear of the loss, that really sucks.

  61. 61.

    themis

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    No, but Teh Google said two million people searched for "What is a papillon"

    I was one of those hits. But I couldn’t believe that Dustin Hoffman escaped his uncle’s backyard, only to be found later. At least CNN could cover that.

  63. 63.

    bayville

    Reminder: Tomorrow is national Tea Party Day. Should be a lot of hilarity as the "revolution" begins…weather permitting.

  64. 64.

    Cat Lady

    Ha ha Wingnut Tea Parties, and Hayek makes me happy too and all, but I’m REALLY worried about the crazies, who have all been made REALLY crazy by Obama. Lou Dobbs ranted about Obama taking away our civil rights tonight on CNN- WTF? Hannity is polling about which form of sedition to act on in prime time! So much free floating fear and anxiety, and so many wingnuts to channel it. Talk me down!!!

  65. 65.

    John Cole

    I thought you jackasses knew what a papillon was. At any rate, they breed them and they have a bunch of show dogs, but the one that was killed was my uncle’s pet.

  66. 66.

    TheFountainHead

    OT: Anybody ever watch Treasure Quest on Discovery? It’s managed to trap me on my nightly channel surf two weeks in a row now. Tonight they’re trying to prove the Lusitania was carrying secret ammunitions to the Brits.

  67. 67.

    Comrade Stuck

    @themis:

    I was one of those hits. But I couldn’t believe that Dustin Hoffman escaped his uncle’s backyard, only to be found later. At least CNN could cover that.

    Themis, you rascal, I think I cracked a rib laughing so hard.

  69. 69.

    Ned R.

    @themis: Hey, thank ya Themis. I think the important thing to remember is that you can’t discover and/or find EVERYTHING you ‘should’ be listening to/reading/watching/whatever. Instead, catch as catch can — since I write about music as part of my living or public profile or whatever, I have a slight advantage I suppose, but that’s just in one area.

    Anyway, glad you liked it — best way to keep track of my musical writing doings is just follow my blog:

    http://nedraggett.wordpress.com

  70. 70.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @John Cole: I did, but that’s because I pal around with a terrorist dog trainer who talks about dogs all the time. I knew it was a dog, but I still haven’t seen a picture of one, and this pleases me very much.

    Speaking of things people didn’t know …

    This from GOS has a sort of jaw-dropping quality to it. I mean, we knew CPAC would be a circus, but aren’t they jumping the Papillon? Er, shark?

  74. 74.

    themis

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Yeah, I had the Dustin Hoffman flash too but damned if I could work it into a joke.

    I didn’t even try, but could use the paycheck from whatever bad-comedy-welfare-thingie the other side has for making fun of us. ‘Cuz I really do need the paycheck – joblessness will be a year in 3 days (yipee Ph.D.!)

    @John – we’re not all jackasses. I did look it up, I did see, and I was appropriately sad. Hell, I’ve lost my 15 year old cat to "something in the Jersey woods" and never found the body. That hell lasted for awhile. So again, my condolences to your family.

  75. 75.

    Ned R.

    My lord, my last two responses have been eaten! Let me just try right now and thank Themis for the kind words. Hopefully this goes through!

  77. 77.

    Jon H

    "Tomorrow is national Tea Party Day. Should be a lot of hilarity as the "revolution" begins…weather permitting"

    The Great Teabagger Fiasco

  78. 78.

    Comrade Stuck

    @themis:

    we’re not all jackasses.

    Not to worry, he calls us that or something similar at least once a day. It may even be a term of endearment sometimes.

  81. 81.

    John Cole

    OT, but is Jeffrey Goldberg schizophrenic? One day he is joining league with hysterics like Goldfarb and Peretz going after the guy appointed to the NIC, today he is telling people to calm down about Hillary Clinton. Does he not realize that the people he daily joins with to smear people only have one speed and that a good bit of the time he is part of the problem?

  83. 83.

    themis

    @Comrade Stuck:

    Themis, you rascal, I think I cracked a rib laughing so hard.

    My dear C Stuck… You’re only leaving the impression that I’m welcome here, which may be dangerous. However, in my own defense, I will provide both intentional and unintentional humor.

    For example, I believed John’s sad story (no humor), but I appreciated some humor on the subject (everyone else) and then made a joke (just me and you).

    Unintentional humor? Your cracked rib… let me get the ice… and the scotch.

  85. 85.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @John Cole: Schizophrenia is not exhibited in that way John. Perhaps you are thinking of multiple personality syndrome.

    /annoying wikipedant

  87. 87.

    TenguPhule

    Does he not realize that the people he daily joins with to smear people only have one speed and that a good bit of the time he is part of the problem?

    No. SATSQ.

  88. 88.

    themis

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Schizophrenia is not exhibited in that way John. Perhaps you are thinking of multiple personality syndrome.

    As a psychologist who isn’t one of those clinical folks, THANK YOU. I’ve been teaching this to Intro Psych students forever.

    Just goes to show you… after 8 long damn years of Bush, I’m excited about someone knowing differences we knew in the 20s. The 1820s.

  91. 91.

    TenguPhule

    I mean, we knew CPAC would be a circus, but aren’t they jumping the Papillon? Er, shark?

    Only if it’s into the shark’s mouth.

  92. 92.

    bootlegger

    Olberman reported that JTP sold 5 books at his Big Book Signing today. I suppose that’s 5 more than I sold.

  95. 95.

    themis

    @TenguPhule:

    Just wanted to say haggis. Haggis haggis haggis.

    But really, where do you think we get the bits that we eat (and I don’t mean really). I’m thing rebubs are offal.

    Yep lame joke, but you win on the Velveeta thing.

  96. 96.

    Comrade Stuck

    One day he is joining league with hysterics like Goldfarb and Peretz going after the guy appointed to the NIC, today he is telling people to calm down about Hillary Clinton.

    Aside from the surreal fact he is defending the right’s previous enemy numero uno, the hysterical food fights between certain wingnut factions IE Limbaugh v. Ace/Allahpundit and others is taking on the air of a full blown party nervous breakdown. You have people like Frum writing articles of incipient Right wing insanity and Hannity spinning himself into a revolutionary froth. If the leaders of the GOP are coming this undone, what does that say about where their followers heads are at. I mean ,it took a couple of years, and a stupid bloody war for the left to get the BDS./ Obama’s been at it a month and the crazy has already surpassed the red line. pun intended/./

  97. 97.

    Mike in NC

    Salma Hayek is on 30 Rock.

    How does it get better than that?

    My favorite economic philosopher, and what a rack, too.

  100. 100.

    themis

    A sixties-vintage Catherine Deneuve is naked on and in my bed.

    I’ve never been gay, but now I’m thinking about it.

    Can I look like her when I’m 50? And yes, I am shallow from time to time.

  103. 103.

    L. Ron Obama

    Juxtaposed with the dick-in-a-vacuum article was the headline, "How hard will they be to remove?"

    Hmmm. That was funnier in my head.

  106. 106.

    themis

    Really, with a nice sauce? Go for it.

    I will agree forever that we disagree on haggis. But when the bees die and the human race clamors for protein, you can come over for dinner.

    I’ll even make veggie sausage.

  107. 107.

    Mike in NC

    Anyone see the monkey segment on TDS?

    Aside from Brian Williams? Where are David Gregory and Chris Matthews? Monkey city! Me want wingnutz!

  109. 109.

    Wile E. Quixote

    I’m just about done with season one of Breaking Bad. It’s awesome, Bryan Cranston as a terminally ill high school chemistry teacher who decides that in order to make money for his family he needs to start cooking meth, and he’s damned good at it. Watching his metamorphosis from put-upon nebbish to dangerous meth dealer is nothing short of brilliant.

  112. 112.

    JasonF

    OT: For a good laugh, check out law professor David Bernstein lamenting the ppor plight of the yuppie. Won’t anybody think of these poor couples who have to scrape by on a mere $300,000 a year while paying for a nanny and a mortgage!

    As someone who makes a six-figure income in a relatively high cost-of-living area, I will be the first to say that I am not light-my-cigars-with-hundred-dollar-bills rich. I will also be the first to say that I have it better than 99% of the country, and I see nothing unreasonable about asking me to go back to Clinton-era tax rates.

  114. 114.

    gbear

    It appears Michelle Bachman has discovered that hip-hop thing.

    NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. That’s just WRONG!!

    Maybe she was saying ‘ Yah, Be Da Man!’ Ehh? She IS from MN.

    I’m so glad to have the blogs to go to talk about Bachman. People in MN are just too polite to mention her anymore. They look down if you bring her up.

  115. 115.

    D-Chance.

    Looks like Obamamerica’s DOJ is calling the dogs of the medical marijuana facilities.

    Good.

    Now, how about getting the Hell off the backs of Neteller and other eWallet websites?

  118. 118.

    TenguPhule

    NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. That’s just WRONG!!

    Not Joe the Plumber Bellydancing in a grass skirt while Ann Coulter does high kicks in a g-string to the beat of Reggae.

    Enjoy your nightmares.

  119. 119.

    Cain

    @dmsilev:

    Hah: Hannity won Countdown’s Worst Person in the World for the "Is it time to shell Fort Sumter" poll that was written about here earlier. Does Olbermann read this blog?

    I’m starting to believe a lot of people in the MSM read this blog. You gotta admit, we are some entertaining motherfuckers. That orbital satellite/tunch joke made me laugh my ass off. But then I’m at +3 right now.. I might laugh at anything.

    cain

  121. 121.

    Cain

    @themis:

    Unintentional humor? Your cracked rib… let me get the ice… and the scotch.

    Welcome to your new obsession. I suggest you stay awhile. The commentariat is what makes this blog. Don’t mind the the dumb ass who keeps posting.

    +3

    cain

  122. 122.

    Johnny Pez

    What should Republicans do after Teabag America Day? I think they should go with National Slave Auction Day, because paying taxes is just like being sold into slavery.

    Vote it up here.

  123. 123.

    pattonbt

    Since Im always a day late / ahead here down under, I always miss most of the fun round these parts.

    But I thought I would share what the Sydney Morning Herald had as the top story headline on its website this morning.

    ‘Boy Blunder’ in big letters with a big picture of Jindal’s oversized head.

    There were none too kind to him.

  125. 125.

    Cain

    The drug war came into focus today when my wife who is a dentist tells me that her assistant fell in love with a drug dealer and ended up with a felony even though she herself wasn’t taking drugs but was a accomplice. For that bit of youthful stupidty she’s paying for it for the rest of her life with a felony record that can’t be removed. She has trouble trying to rent apartments or a house or even get a house. That’s fucked up. We all do dumb shit when we’re young but we shouldn’t have to artifically pay for it for the rest of our lives.

    We SERIOUSLY need to some changes w.r.t to drug policy and the war on drugs. I hope we can convince Obama to get rid of some of this shit. If you’re in this position as this young woman, she should have the charge removed if she’s clean after 3-4 years.

    cain

  126. 126.

    AnneLaurie

    Coming up: fReichtards demand to see Obama’s Supertriplegoogleplex Birth Certificate, his Jesus Certified Birth Certificate and his navel to make sure he’s human.

    I have the image of President Obama responding to one of the Media Village Idiots’ "Some people say… " version of this demand with a comment like "Okay, guys, if it’s that important to you all, I will show you my navel, on camera. But no matter HOW much you beg, I am NOT lowering my waistband any further than that."

    Srlsy, Mr. Cole, I’m very sorry to hear about your uncle’s Papillon. We have yet to spot coyotes in our immediate neighborhood — and our three Papillons are all rather larger than the average showdogs, around 12lbs. each — but there have been dogs killed in nearby towns. Even more depressing, tonight’s local tv news featured a report on a farmer in Raynham (stone’s throw from the Patriots stadium complex) who’s lost several baby goats to a pack of "10 or 12" coyotes. One of his toy dogs was attacked & killed last night even though his wife was in the yard just a few feet away… and he says the biggest coyote was "almost like a German Shepherd, mostly black, maybe 60 – 70 pounds." Unless his estimate is ridiculously grandiose, this means a coyote-dog hybrid, and coydogs have a truly evil reputation. Of course, this is also coyote mating season — if your uncle’s favorite was still "intact" the poor little bustard might have seemed like competition, too?

  127. 127.

    Chuck Butcher

    Coyotes aren’t much of an issue in town, here, but when a mountain lion decides to bed down 1 block off downtown there’s a certain amount of consternation. Yes, a town of 10K pop with a cougar laid up in it. Cops shot it. Two years ago IIRC.

    We have plenty, no need to try to relocate and that’s usually a disaster since they won’t tolerate another cat on their range and their ranges are very large.

  128. 128.

    Josh Hueco

    @Chuck Butcher:

    I remember living in Salem several years ago and there were reports of cougars encroaching on new housing developments in Silverton. At the time I thought, "Don’t they live on the east side of the mountains?" :)

  129. 129.

    Conservatively Liberal

    Damn you and your perfect marriage!

    @cain: My wife knows that I would only take pictures. Sad but true. . .lol!

    About Obama calling off the drug dogs on medical marijuana growers; I just picked up a new grower for MM patients. Retired firefighter turned green thumb, doesn’t smoke it and is willing to put in a facility to grow for as many as 10 patients (seventy plants) on his property. We are getting him set up (paperwork-wise) now.

    Retired firefighter and former Republican who voted for Obama because ‘my party left me and went off a cliff long ago’. Since we had talked in the past about it, once he heard about the drug dogs being called off he gave me a call and offered his services. He is as clean as a whistle and is friends with most of the cops in our area.

    Hell yeah!

  130. 130.

    Chinn Romney

    I, too, was speechless when I heard Tom Terrific and Gisele tied the knot. But you’ve had a few hours to digest the biggest story in the NFL since the NY Giants got lucky last year, so it’s time to put up a dedicated thread, don’t you think?

  131. 131.

    gil mann

    ConLib, any chance yoy and your ex-firefighter buddy can help me out with my debilitating glaucoma? Also—and this might seem like an odd question since I suffer from it chronically—what is glaucoma?

  132. 132.

    Jeff

    Aisha Tyler is naked on and in my bed.
    How does it get better than that?

    Fix’t yet again.

    Sorry about the butterfly-eared doggie (you "jackasses" making butterfly jokes were closer than you knew! [grin]). I’ve known more than a few pappilions and they were all great dogs.

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