Please tell me this is true. via.
Palin Hints At Independent Conservative Movement
Excerpts from TammyBruce.com
Enter now Sarah Palin with very encouraging comments that lead one to believe that she is indeed planning to do what she must: build an independent conservative movement and take this nation back from the liberals which now control both parties.Thanks liberals, for provoking Sarah into the national scene while vetting that family at the same time.
One thing I will say, the Washington Times with their headline for this exclusive interview reveal an anti-Palin stance. She is, don’t doubt, a threat to every existing political status quo.
What is a true conservative? Who the hell knows? If it’s Sunday then Conservatism means hating CBS and resisting communazi black helicopter government census spies. If it’s Tuesday or Thursday then America equals the President equals the troops equals shut the fuck up or you hate freedom. Wednesdays and Fridays are reserved for Muslim-hating, torture and police state powers. Pat Buchanan claims alternating Mondays opposite Randall Terry and the Discovery Institute.
Thank god for Sarah. Now she can tell us what conservatism means. This week.
In other news, John Cornyn just started drinking heavily(er).
Fair warning: the last link illustrates my point about as well as any link could, but it also goes to Free Republic.
gizmo
Actually, I won’t be surprised if Palin is planing to fire up some kind of grassroots wingnut operation to take the country back from the godless liberals and the dirty hippies. But the big loser if that happens will be the Republican Party. The wingdings who support Palin are a big part of the GOP base, and if she siphons them off into her army it’s going to rupture the Republican Party and reduce them to an even more pathetic irrelevancy than they already are.
Molly
I think the Republican party will eventually split into two parties, and what this article is saying is EXACTLY what I think is going to happen. The wingnuts, neocons, etc. will all take their toys and go home to a new party, and the Republican party will take itself back to some form of sanity.
Will have to happen if the Republicans ever hope to be anything but a joke moving forward. No one with half a brain cell would vote for Palin, and Sanford and Ensign are just the gift that keeps on giving. Waiting to see where the next scandal will happen.
Tim O
I always maintained that convincing the religious right that the corporatist right doesn’t have their back would be the greatest gift to the progressive movement.
Convince the true believers that the Republican Party would never really outlaw abortion because its always a campaign issue and never taken seriously as an actual policy.
Conversely, if the corporatist wing realizes its losses will be greater by cow towing to the religious psychopaths than moving left/center than again we win.
This secures the independents in the left column for a generation.
Thank you Sarah! I love you!
John Cole
@Molly: The neocons will not go to a new “conservative party.” That isn’t how they roll. They don’t create power bases from the ground up- they suck up to power.
SGEW
I hate to keep harping on this, but I warned y’all that Gov. Palin was finally Going Galt in order to bring forth the One True Wingularity. This is part of the program, duh. Joe the Plumber will be involved as a prophet, also. Shepard Smith will be their Judas, and he will pay.
Everyone keeps analyzing all this as if it was some modern political narrative. It is not: it is a passion play.
PaulW
Both parties??? Are they saying the entire GOP leadership – the Cantors, the Gingrichs, the FOX chattering class – is RINO??? Does this mean we can get in Limbaugh’s face and call him a Dirty F-ckin Hippie???
And *Palin* is the one to save the conservatives?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I think I just heard Ron Paul AND Pat Buchanan spin in their respective graves (wait, whadda mean they’re still alive?)…
Tom
I love the header of the WashTimes article:
This is based on Palin saying she WOULD stump for conservative democrats. Given the fact that Palin is going to have a hard time finding Republicans who’d want her to stump for them, I’m not going to hold my breath until this happens.
JK
FYI, Tammy Bruce called Barack and Michelle Obama trash when she guest hosted for Laura Ingraham’s radio show.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/23/tammy-bruce-calls-the-oba_n_178109.html. Bruce is every bit as much of a delusional asshole as Sarah Palin.
Palin is getting loonier by the minute. I can’t wait till she starts speaking in tongues.
Tim, you’re making conservatism sound as confusing as the rules for Fizzbin
Each player gets six cards, except for the player on the dealer’s right, who gets seven.
The second card is turned up, except on Tuesdays.
Two jacks are a “half-fizzbin”.
If you have a half-fizzbin:
a third jack is a “shralk” and results in disqualification;
one wants a king and a deuce, except at night, when one wants a queen and a four;
if a king had been dealt, the player would get another card, except when it is dark, in which case he’d have to give it back.
The top hand is a “royal fizzbin”, but the odds against getting one are said to be “astronomical”
h/t http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Fizzbin
lotus
OT and let’s hope it’s true:
JK
Two Different 2 1/4″ Sarah Palin Buttons that Will Make You See Russia From Your Bedroom Window: Wear ‘Em or Collect ‘Em. Talk of the Party!
http://www.buzzflash.com/store/items/1749
JenJen
C’mon. Don’t you think her interview with the Weekly Standard clears everything up?
Holy Jeez, you gotta love that. It would seem that Palin is suggesting that anyone curious about her real reasons for being a Quitting Quitter must be guessing it’s Internet Porno. No nuance, no in-between, no “she seeks celebrity” or “she’s following the money” or “she has higher political ambitions.” Nope! Just porno.
That’s our Sarah!! And also too, if you’re not following her Twitter feed, you must not enjoy being consistently amused as much as I do.
Anyone catch John McCain on his new weekly Sunday show, “Meet John McCain,” hosted by David Gregory? It was painful to watch, and Gregory was actually very good with the follow-up questions about his Palin pick.
KG
Isn’t the Washington Times pretty much a wingnut daily? A quick perusal of their opinion page: DOJ covering for Black Panthers; a defense of speculators; and a couple of things about cap and trade (I’m guessing by the summaries, not good things); oh, and some commentary that Obama didn’t accomplish anything by going to Russia.
But the WaTimes is now part of the liberal establishment.
Congratulations, wingnuts, you have officially made at least three words simultaneously meaningless: liberal, conservative, and moderate (if you don’t have a definition for the first two, you can’t have one for the last one).
Skepticat
Listen to her “I quit” speech again and you’ll realize that she already has.
GregB
By the way, Tammy Bruce makes Sarah Palin look like an island of emotional stability.
I have never heard a more psychotic partisan verbal spew than that which emanates from the jabber jaws of Tammy Bruce.
Seriously, she’s just incoherent.
Hopefully Palin will become the Ross Perot for the snake handlers and the racists and they can be run further off into the cornfield.
-G
General Winfield Stuck
@Skepticat:
Exactly. i can’t understand a thing she says anymore. A mishmash of slogans strung together with dubious conjunctives and wrapped in boiler plate patriotic mumbo jumbo. Oh, and an occasional religious rhetorical cherry on top.
JK
Just came across a reference to this book about Palin
TheoPalinism: The Face of Failed Extremism
by Leah L. Burton
h/t http://www.theopalinism.com
steve s
So, Bill Kristol, please tell us again how much you wuv wittle Sarah.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
MattF
Oh, boy. Death Wish VI: Republican.
JK
@GregB:
I had the misfortune of seeing Tammy Bruce on Fox News Channel a few times and she is one deranged wingnut asshole. She’s like Michelle Malkin and Pam Geller.
@KG:
Tammy Bruce is certifiably insane. As I noted in a previous post, she went on the air and called the Obamas trash. Don’t pay attention to anything this whackjob says.
The Washington Times is still owned by the Moonies. I don’t know if Tony Blankley still works for them, but he’s one of the few pundits who thinks Palin’s resignation was a master stroke.
zhak
I’ll tell you what “conservatism” isn’t — the right-wing rump of angry & disenfranchised white folks who profess to be “true conservatives” and “patriotic.”
Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt & Lincoln would be, I suspect, greatly bemused & not a little alarmed by what happened to their party.
But they’d be even more alarmed by what happened to their country.
We’re a country with center-left views led (very badly) by a center-right govt & with a Fourth Estate that is both barren of ideas & self-awareness (hence, far-right).
Sarah Palin is stupid. She’s not without ambition, goodness knows, but she is stupid. The idea of her being a presidential candidate is absurd.
Uloborus
Don’t have time to think about this in detail until later. I’m just fascinated by one thing: These people really think they’re the majority. They’re certain of it. They think liberals are this tiny abberation with disproportionate power.
amorphous
This is the best post you have ever written, Tim. I’m going to frame it and put it on my wall.
Dennis-SGMM
Forming a new party would be too much like work. OTOH, a non-profit to Promote the Values of Real America™ would be just the ticket. There would be hefty salaries for Palin, her family, and for her hangers on, along with lots of press releases, a ghost-written blog and numerous speaking opportunities, corporate sponsorships, fund raisers, fund raisers, fund raisers. Did I mention fund raisers?
The prospect of harvesting bushels of cash while letting others do the actual work will be irresistible. And having her ass kissed, also.
Edit: It will take the MSM less than three minutes to start referring to the enterprise as “the prestigious Palin foundation.”
Allan
Tammy Bruce claims to be a lesbian.
I didn’t know that masturbating with the barrel of your pistol while viewing pictures of Abu Ghraib detainee abuse counted as lesbian sex. Learn something new every day…
kth
Now that Andrew Sullivan has mostly given up accusing his opponents of treason, no one in our time resembles Roy Cohn more than Tammy Bruce. Anyone GLBT signing up for that movement is a whole other level of sick beyond that which afflicts the ordinary straight white bigots that fill their ranks (I hasten to add, Dems shouldn’t have a monopoly on gay votes, and there’s a lot of reasons an urban gay person might support a big-city GOP. But enlisting in the Palin crusade is another matter entirely).
gopher2b
Rebirth of the Confederacy? Todd did leave his fishing trip for the presser. Food for thought.
Isidore
DAVID LETTERMAN’S HATE, ETC. !
David Letterman’s hate is as old as some ancient Hebrew prophets.
Speaking of anti-Semitism, it’s Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who’ve gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
Wrong! It’s the ancient Hebrew prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that’ll outdo even Hitler’s by stating that “Judah hath dealt treacherously” and “the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this” and asks “Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?”
Haven’t evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and persons perceived to be Jewish? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard and Kathy Griffin) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin’s continuing “crucifixion”!
While David, Sandra, and Kathy are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
(For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in “Separation of Raunch and State” and “Bible Verses Obama Avoids.”)
JK
“Red State Marion Barry” – Cato Institute’s Brink Lindsay on Palin
http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/21007?in=53:27&out=55:45
RedKitten (formerly Krista - the Canadian one)
Funny, and slightly OT, but thought you guys would find it an interesting story: I was just having a discussion today with one of the conference delegates about stuff like that.
She was here in 2007, when our Minister of Defense was at our closing dinner, and made a lengthy speech, part of which involved saying some rather unkind things about Iran. One of our delegates that year was a very gracious and kind Iranian lady.
In a very small, one-horse village like ours, one would assume that the residents would be somewhat wary or distrustful of the Iranian.
Instead, almost to a person, they all expressed sympathy with her, and utter disgust with our Minister of Defense. The person with whom I was speaking today found that really eye-opening, that these older folks from a small fishing village (many of whom have never traveled farther than Halifax) would express so much pride in their country, yet still happily raked their own Minister of Defense over the coals, in order to come to the defense of an Iranian stranger.
RedKitten (formerly Krista - the Canadian one)
Wow — it’s been awhile since we’ve had a genuinely crazy person on a thread. How refreshing!
Rick Massimo
Forming a new party, as with governing a state or being in any important elected position, also requires that you actually listen to your advisers and constituents and do what they say. You don’t get to just put your feet up and tell people what to do all day. This is what Sarah Palin has realized, to her dismay.
Yup. Now even the Washington Times is librul. They’re going to whittle themselves down to about 4% of the country, and then wonder why they can’t bludgeon and threaten people into voting for them and their awesome theories.
“Conservatism” has failed. Everywhere, every time. It must continually be redefined so that it is always something that hasn’t been tried yet.
Jennifer
What is a true conservative?
Well, if you take them at their word, it’s somene who’s a) dumber than dirt, b) gullible to the point of “thank you sir may I have another” and c) proud of both a & b.
El Cid
I guess I’ll now have to call it the Palin Party of the Dixie Confederate Baptist Alaskan Tea-Bag Uprising.
Anton Sirius
@gizmo:
Totally disagree. If a Palin-led movement syphons off the wingnuts, that frees up the Republican Party to actually start trying to appeal to the middle again. Something like that happening is really the only thing that can save the GOP from obsolescence.
ruemara
@Tim O:
kowtow, also.
cow tow=pulling a cow behind a truck. Also known as, road hamburger.
Proper Gander
Beg pardon, but I had no idea that it was physically impossible, in Sarah’s universe, to photograph a pregnant woman naked. Or perhaps to view those photographs. Cause my Internets tell a different story.
Well, she did say “thanks, but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere Money. Several times, in fact, while stumping for her VP ticket. That she did something else entirely doesn’t seem to bother her, or even present itself as historically relevant, tips her hand and shows us her fatal character flaw.
Narcissism is really ugly when taken to such an extreme.
I do, however, wish her great success leading the Rednecks of the Outer Party into the deep wilderness. It’ll be a great day for this country when everyone sees where the power lies in the Republican Party, and who the dupes are, because those are the two camps remaining under that tattered Big Tent. And Palin’s pouring the kerosene and packing the matches .
Kyle
The neocons will not go to a new “conservative party.” That isn’t how they roll.
Given the number of Dems (Hillary, Schumer, Lieberwhore, etc.) who reflexively suck up to the Israeli Likudniks, I’d say the greater danger is greater infiltration of the AIPAC neocons into the Dems. They bring money, politicians will follow.
Good article by Frank Rich in the NYT on Palin
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12rich.html?_r=2&ref=opinion
Dennis-SGMM
@Rick Massimo:
True. And who wants to deal with all those mean old rules about donations, disclosure, and how the money can and can not be spent?
Eric U.
@Anton Sirius: I don’t think there is anyone in the Republican Party that can appeal to moderates any more. Back when Nixon was prez, there were actually liberal republicans. When Bush I was prez, there were still moderates. The Reganites had drummed out the liberals. Bush II marked the end of any moderates in the party, they were all wingnuts or kept their heads low.
Elroy's Lunch
@Isidore
Wow, that was stupendous! Thanks for bringing the crazy. Sandra Bernhard? I’m impressed that anyone even remembers Sandra Bernhard.
El Cid
That’s true, but electorally they may have a formally or informally split party between the majority of the nation and the Crazy South and the Wacky West.
So, yes, it would be good for the reconstructive efforts of some, will potentially drawing off the base of the party. The Republicans, even if moderated, are not going to win by giving up various bases but looking for just Democratic and liberal independent crossovers.
Second, the most dangerous prospect is that though electorally not likely to be successful, it provides an organizing movement for the sorts of right wing ultra-crazies who were screaming “kill him!” at the Palin anti-Obama rallies.
On the plus side, it’s just as likely to mean nothing, or mean that Palin realizes how much money and attention she could gather by another half-assed narcissistic effort.
MikeJ
King of Comedy is one of the greatest movies ever made.
malraux
@Anton Sirius:
If the wingnuts leave the Republican Party, who is left? Palin appeals to something like 3/4 of the current Republican Party. Moreover, once you remove the wingnut ideas, what ideas are you left with to rebuild the party?
El Cid
@malraux:
They were anti-regulation and pro-tax cuts before the rise of the Republican post-Civil Rights South, and they would be again.
Nylund
Surely Palin will find a way to convince people that the best way to ensure that they don’t have a $10 increase in their taxes ($10 they desperately need as working class folk!) is to “donate” $100 to her. And the people will see no irony in this.
But come on folks! This is a long thread and I have yet to see any snarky comments about what this new party will be called. Get it together people!
El Cid
@Nylund: “the Palin Party of the Dixie Confederate Baptist Alaskan Tea-Bag Uprising”
The Grand Panjandrum
Nice title for the blog post Mr. Franklin. You should gather up all these posts and put them in an almanac of collected Balloon Juice wisdom.
Too many competing constituencies for this to be good news for anyone but the Democrats. The Democratic Party elders would be wise to encourage and support this move on Governor Palin’s part. While the crazies flock to Palin for affirmation that they are the aggrieved ones in all the evils of the mean ol’ Dems, the GOP will still be stumbling around in the dark looking for a talking point disguised as real policy to run on.
With all that schadenfreude looming on the horizon it will be up to rank and file Democrats to keep an eye on the Congress and the Obama administration. So far I’ve heard and read more complaining in this first six months about this new adminstration from our own than I heard or read for almost the entire eight years of the previous regime. If by next January we’re still wondering whats up with DOMA, DADT, Iraq, abrogation of the 4th Amendment, reigning in Wall Street, and healthcare legislation I won’t be a happy camper.
flounder
She should call her new independent conservative party the ‘Alaskan Independence Party’, since she is from Alaska.
Dennis-SGMM
The ‘Real American Party.’ They’ll reach out to minorities by referring to themselves as rappers.
JK
@MikeJ:
Rupert Pupkin in King of Comedy.
Sarah Palin was queen for day when she gave her acceptance speech at the 2008 Republican Convention. Now she can return to being a schmuck for a lifetime. Palin is too stupid to lead anything. She wouldn’t know how to pour water out of a shoe if the instructions were printed on the heel.
The Grand Panjandrum
@Nylund:
Real Americans Tea Federation Under Christ the King and Evangelical Resentment Society …
Dennis-SGMM
@The Grand Panjandrum:
LOL! It took me a second to get it.
Fern
@flounder:
Well, the though had crossed my mind that she may be up to something with regard to Alaska independence!
Batocchio
Well done – I liked the crazy bullshit of the week rundown. I think they pick cards, spin a wheel or use MadLibs to decide what specific batshit they’ll fling on any given day, since the particulars don’t matter at all to them.
ricky
Your Freeper link reminded me of what I read at many “progressive blogs” in the commentary. Just substitute “Green” and “Nader” for the names.
JK
Possible Names for Palin’s New Party
The Palinistas
The Palinators
The Drillers
The Rapturists
The Theocrats
The Bible Thumpers
The Left Behinders
The Troglodytes
ricky
Dennis-SGMM
Your cognitive reflex beats your typing reflex by three minutes.
Marco
I still don’t get why wingnuts like Bruce think we fear Palin. We sent her packing in November as second-fiddle to Santa and she’s ben crying we made her quit her current job.
Tammy and other wingnuts, I encourage… no, beg you to run Sarah Palin.
ricky
JK @ 56
Salmonistas
Tim F.
Such as? I remember the Nader wars at Kos. They were a massacre. The battle only went on because a tiny number of Naderites refused to shut up, leave, or do anything bannable.
To the left of Kos you have…BooMan Tribune. They also despise Nader. I don’t believe that there is an influential blog to the left of BooMan (if that happened BooMan would move).
By all means, support your argument with the devastating list of references that I am sure you have at your fingertips.
Dennis-SGMM
@ricky:
My typing reflex was done under by the aftereffects of spending over twenty years as a machinist. If my thumbs ever pack up I’ll have to type with my nose.
ricky
Tim F. @ 60
Glad to oblige.
I won’t be gone long. I am not talking about the blogs, but their commentariat.
JenJen
@ricky:
As far as I can tell, so is Tim.
O/T, but don’t miss Auto-Tune The News #6. Classic Bachmann and Boehner cameos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OzxvClwoU
El Cid
@Tim F.:
I think it’s pretty healthy to make sure to read lots of very leftist non-influential stuff, arguing against capitalism, arguing for socialism / anarchism / participatory economic democracy, arguing against unjust distributions of international power, etc., just like I’ve done for the past 20-odd years as such left arguments were dismissed as fringe craziness until such time as it was fashionable to consider them again.
I mean, at least if the one reading it is genuinely convinced that in a particular essay or article there is something worth engaging.
Thank goodness for that, too, as I’d rather make sure and read essays from, say, the Monthly Review which maybe no one else of influence reads, or debates on participatory economics that may have zero effect in my lifetime, than waste my time with peoples’ discussions of the inane yet elite central garblings of a Megan McArdle.
calipygian
Living in DC, I actually read this article on real dead trees, the lead article in the Technology pullout section of the Times:
Young Cons a YouTube surprise hit, White rappers in suits
Yup, the Sarah Palin era will be a fucking hoot.
Proper Gander
@ JK: A la the Bull Moose Party, I second the Quitbull Party
calipygian
Off topic a bit, but I saw a real, live PUMA in the wild today, and they live down the street from me.
I saw a car leaving my neighborhood with a Hillary sticker, a McCain sticker and a little white oval that says “PUMA”.
Seriously.
Tim F.
@ricky:
Fair enough. Don’t mind the snapping; other arguments made me testier than I should be on a fair weather Sunday.
georgia pig
Palin could be the focus of a splinter group leaving the Repubs, but at least two things work against that. First, Palin herself. I think she’s more likely to go the wingnut book contract/talk show route, because scrounging for perks is really what she and First Dude are about, and she can get more emotional fulfillment in the echo chamber. Second, because we don’t have a parliamentary system, there’s not much leverage for a narrow minority party, e.g., they can’t leverage a coalition like in Israel.
The one thing that worries me about Palin is that she’s relatively young and sees herself as the heir of Reagan. She may envision passing through a preparatory phase in which she gains experience as a frontman spouting empty wingnut slogans for corporate paymasters a la the early Reagan. Thus, she could pad her bank account, use the haze of memory to gin up a mythology about her Alaskan origins and create the illusion that she has “experience.” Then, maybe ten or fifteen years down the road, she could lead a movement to take over the Republican party from its hapless loser leadership. It’s not a high probability, but she could position herself that way. However, I don’t think she’s as politically talented or grounded as Reagan, and her nuttiness and narcissism will probably do her in. Also, events have to cooperate.
JK
@Tim F.:
OK, they’re not influential but I consider them to be left of the Booman Tribune and worth reading to get perspectives you may not find elsewhere
http://www.counterpunch.org
http://ww4report.com
http://thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com
http://leninology.blogspot.com
http://www.defenestrator.org
http://threewayfight.blogspot.com
http://lefti.blogspot.com
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com
http://doughenwood.wordpress.com
Bubblegum Tate
Palin’s party = The States Rights Republican Party, or the Teabagicans.
El Cid
The Dixie Tundrabaggers.
Jason
What, Tammy Bruce said something crazy? I mean it’s not all that unexpected. She needs market share.
LD50
But the factor you’re overlooking is that in 10-15 years her looks will no doubt have diminished a good deal. This wouldn’t be a big deal for a politician whose appeal is his/her ideas or, uh, brains, but for someone who seems to get a big chunk of her support from 40-something male wingnut losers who’ve convinced themselves that “the stripper really likes them” (remember that Palin polls substantially better among men than women), her packing on another 10-12 years of hard living is not a trivial matter. Seems to me that whatever power she grabs has to be now, not later.
Besides, the kind of long game you’re describing is simply not in SP’s nature. She’s too impulsive, has too short an attention span, and is too averse to hard work. She does NOT plan things carefully long in advance. If nothing else, she’d be certain to commit some big blunder between now and then that’d fuck it all up.
Dennis-SGMM
Palin’s followers seem to be most numerous in the Old South. Combine that with the First Dude’s secessionist tendencies and it would seem only natural for the Palinites to reconstitute the Confederacy and take it back out of the Union. The present Supreme Court would likely sign off on it.
Wouldn’t it be exciting to see the birth of another Third World nation?
ricky
Tim F. @ 68
After plowing through the collected commentaries of my favorite suspects I have decided to back off. It will help me avoid a flame war if I visit again. Besides, while typing this concession I hit some stray key and was diverted to a window containing Jesco White. I took the latter as an omen to cease and desist.
Cat Lady
@georgia pig:
Her sell by date is 5 years more, max. Once she gets into her fifty’s and isn’t teh hawt anymore, the spell will be broken and game over. Her appeal is not her policies or her speechifyin’, I assure you. A bitter resentful menopausal crone is not who Real Americans (TM) want to support.
Edit – and what LD50 said, also, too.
Dennis-SGMM
@LD50:
Think Kate O’Beirne with the intelligence of broccoli.
shelley matheis
YES! Sarah will lead the wingnuts to the Promised Land. And let them go, to whatever delusional reality they somehow think she can provide. I’m always amused at those who sneer at Obama being seen as ‘the messiah’, are usually those who project such incredible faith in Palin as a candidate.
Thing is. If this played out, i.e., Palin forming a third party and siphoning off the crazier crowd. Would that give the Republican Party a chance to regroup itself, if it didn’t have to constantly appeal to the loonier ‘base?’
LD50
@Dennis-SGMM: I assume this is what’s meant by “bitter resentful menopausal crone“?
Sorry. That was mean.
Anya
I am wondering if the Republican party is headed to the same fate as Canadian conservitives. Some conservatives in 1987 founded the Reform Party of Canada as a Western Canada protest party because they were disatisfied with what they deemed as the marginalization of the west. Although the party tried they could never expand to eastern Canada because most Canadians viewed them as xenophobic, homophobic, and sexist party (sound familliar). This split in the conservitives put them in political wildreness till they merged with the Progressive Conservatives.
Comrade Dread
A “True Conservative” (per the Palin/Limbaugh model) is one who believes in perpetual war at home and abroad (as long as the targets are not rich and well-connected); cutting all government sectors except for police, law enforcement, and the legal system; one who believes in the Constitution except when it inhibits their ability to do as they please with government power or if they feel scared; and they wish to do it all without taxes because deficits don’t matter unless the money is being spent by a dirty Democratic hippie.
Mike G
MooseBlaster Trash and the Furious Hive
SiubhanDuinne
Fine Upstanding Conspiratorial Klansmen Talking About Republican Dynastic Scenarios
Nellcote
Seconding what JK linked to above. See also:
http://www.theopalinism.com/blog/2009/07/06/palins-sense-of-duty-to-a-higher-calling-is-the-answer/
It’s not about politics it’s about power.
It’s not about government it’s about religion.
It’s not about the 2012 presidential run, it’s about local school boards etc. and working it grass-rootsy style to hasten the End Times. Focusing on national politics misses the point of her “mission”.
and WTF? Now the Washington Times is too liberal?
Nellcote
@Dennis-SGMM:
SarahPAC?
Nellcote
@Dennis-SGMM:
SarahPAC?
JK
@Tim F.:
More leftwing web sites for your consideration
http://www.democracynow.org
http://www.fsrn.org
http://www.pacificaradioarchives.org
http://lawanddisorder.org
http://www.expertwitnessradio.org
ricky
I am not sure I take your meaning. Kate O’Beirne already strikes me as having the intelligence of broccoli, so wouldn’t it be easier on your thumbs to just type “think Kate O’Beirne?” Unless you are suggesting Kate has a higher order intellect, like, say brussel sprout.
georgia pig
@LD50: I don’t disagree, note I said it isn’t a high probability. As for the looks, that’s what got her in the door, but she probably won’t look all that awful in 10 years if she’s making money and can hire the right plastic surgeons. Mature porn may not sell as well as MILFs, but is still sells. Anyway, it may not matter then. The lovelorn wingnuts will forget her appeal to their loins and make up an alternative history that supports her being the next Reagan. Look, conservative personality types tend to the authoritarian, and are always looking for the next Great Leader. Remember, they managed to make a B-movie actor into their FDR and a spoiled fratboy/fake cowboy from Connecticut into the second coming of Winston Churchill. Making Sarah Palin into Margaret Thatcher would not be any bigger of a stretch.
As for her having no taste for hard work, I’m not sure that matters. Trolling the wingnut circuit is far from hard work, unless you count insufferable cruises with Jonah Goldberg and crew as hard work, which she probably doesn’t. In contrast, actually running a government is hard work, which is why she’s bailing in Alaska. It’s too hard without a national party apparatus that will tend to her every whim and take care of all those nuisance ethics thingys. She’s already seen proof of concept with Bush. Remember he had a lot of skeletons from Texas that somehow stayed in the closet.
I agree that her impulse control appears weak, which may mitigate against a long game. I just think she’s dangerous because she seems to have aroused a wingnut errogenous zone, and Americans have shitty memories and poor judgment when they’re pissed off and confused.
matoko_chan
Lucky for us, she can’t read, or she could see how it could happen in Richard Morgan’s Thirteen.
But actually Jesusland, or The Confederated Republic would just be the seven red states where the palinbots are thickest.
Isn’t that a great name?
Ima suggest it at SarahPAC…..bet those sub-sapients can’t read either.
The Confederated Republican Party.
hahahaha
Elie
She is a giant gas ball of hot air, now untethered to any real role or work obligation. The Republicans will support her for a time, but she isnt really interested in THEM per se, but celebrity and grifting that last bit of money.
She is the talisman of the dying American love of empty celebrity not associated with any performance or outcome worth anything.
People will see her light orb floating above and say OOOOO-and point for a while.
She distracts us from weighty things like health care and our damaged economy…
Here she comes back over the net — a big empty gas volleyball to be kept in play from one side to the other…
Who is keeping score?
steve s
The slight problem is that 2 out of 3 republicans want Palin for President. The wingnuts aren’t a small fraction of the party, they Are the party.
steve s
Taking America in the Right Direction!
A Cat
I’m late to the party, but..
I had a huge movement and after I was done I used a refreshing cottnnelle wipe this “Is A Sign That God Loves Me And Wants Me To Be Happy”
Ed Drone
And Saturday? What happens then, man? Enquiring citizens want to know. Personally, I think that’s saved for JesusLand staff family picnics, featuring gay-bashing (with real gays), 10-minute hates, and mandatory Faux Noise porn.
But I could be wrong. Perhaps it’s devoted to rewriting the Constitution…
Nah, they don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution!
Ed