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… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

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Bark louder, little dog.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Let there be snark.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

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If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

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This fight is for everything.

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Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

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  2. 2.

    Alan

    Oh, I thought you going to link back to Brick Oven Bill’s comments in the Krugman post two entries back. :)

  3. 3.

    Sentient Puddle

    @Alan: To be fair, I’m sure Jonah’s tweet makes more sense on its face than BoB’s comment (I haven’t read it).

  5. 5.

    Joel

    jonah goldberg is doing his best groucho marx impression:

    “time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana”

  6. 6.

    4tehlulz

    >Jonah’s tweet makes more sense on its face than BoB’s comment

    Wow. If that’s not damning with faint praise I don’t know what is.

  7. 7.

    David Hunt

    Just last night John Rogers put this on his blog.

    What wakes liberal writers up at night — I mean that eye-snap of soul-gnawing, nauseating dread — is not social injustice, is not the fear of creeping fascism, is not rage against corporate greed …
    .
    It is the haunting certainty that Jonah Goldberg will die happily in his sleep without ever comprehending that he’s an idiot.
    .
    (Yeah, I tried reading Liberal Fascism. It’s just that bad.)

    Blockquote should end here

  8. 8.

    Comrade Dread

    I think I can translate. His statement was written in something sort of, but not quite like English, but I think Jonah is complaining that the government health care will determine whether or not you get necessary surgery and there is a possibility you might be denied funding/approval, and Democrats are okay with this, but if you tried to deny a woman funding for an abortion, they would scream bloody murder.

    Of course, in light of how many Democrats are not okay with Federally funded abortion and voted as much (some even threatening to vote against the health care bill if it included such), this is sheer stupidity and wankery.

  10. 10.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    That’s it. I’m taking a break from reading about these morons. I’m going to go finish putting up hay and getting the winter garden mulched. Jesus. At least I can have a reasonably intelligent discussion with my Newfie.

  11. 11.

    Ash Can

    I read that mess a few times, then finally said fuck it, who cares what he’s trying to say, anyway?

  12. 12.

    licensed to kill time

    __

    The underscore key is your friend! If you put two underscores on the line directly above your blockquote it will not bold .
    __
    If you put two underscores in the empty line between paragraphs, they all stay within the blockquote box!
    —
    AND they don’t show up, either.
    __
    Embrace your underscore key! Wield the authoritay!

    That is all.

  13. 13.

    Makewi

    Of course, in light of how many Democrats are not okay with Federally funded abortion and voted as much (some even threatening to vote against the health care bill if it included such), this is sheer stupidity and wankery.

    Yeah, that less than 25% of the Democrats that voted for the Stupak Amendment sure tells the tale eh? Oh, were you saying something about stupidity and wankery? Oops.

  18. 18.

    Evinfuilt

    It makes sense if he said exactly the opposite of what he meant. That he’d fight against Government interfering with his knee surgery but ask the Government to stop his poor raped niece from having an abortion.

  21. 21.

    Midnight Marauder

    OT, but can we all now stop pretending like their was ever anything legitimate about Fox News:

    Murdoch: Beck ‘Was Right,’ Obama Made Racist Comment

    “But [Obama] did make a very racist comment about blacks and whites and so on, which he said in his campaign he would be completely above. And that was something which perhaps shouldn’t have been said about the President, but if you actually assess what he was talking about, [Beck] was right.”

    Not to mention the trouble looming on the horizon for Murdoch over at the NY Post:

    NEW YORK POST LAWSUIT: Shocking Allegations Made By Fired Employee

    The New York Post editor fired after speaking out against a cartoon depicting the author of the president’s stimulus package as a dead chimpanzee has sued the paper. And as part of her complaint, Sandra Guzman levels some remarkable, embarrassing, and potentially damaging allegations.

    “On one occasion when Ms. Guzman and three female employees of the Post were sharing drinks at an after-work function. Defendant [the paper’s editor in chief Col] Allan approached the group of women, pulled out his blackberry and asked them ‘What do you think of this?’ On his blackberry was a picture of a naked man lewdly and openly displaying his penis. When Ms. Guzman and the other female employees expressed their shock and disgust at being made to view the picture, Defendant Allan just smirked… [N]o investigation was ever conducted and the Company failed to take any steps to address her complaints.”

    When she would walk by certain offices at the paper, Guzman alleges, editors would routinely sing songs from West Side Story — a nod to her Hispanic heritage — including the tune: “I want to live in America.”

    Guzman also makes the following allegations to supplement her case that the Post harbored an environment that was offensive to women and minority employees.
    “A White male senior editor sexually propositioned a young female Copy Assistant, telling her that ‘If you give me a blowjob, I will give you a permanent reporter job.'”
    “The last five employees who were recently terminated by Paul Carlucci, the Publisher of the Post…. Have all been black and/or women of color.”

    If nothing else, at least they’re honest and open over their about hating those pesky women and minorities.

  22. 22.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @Comrade Dread: Now you’ve gone and confused Makewi.

    Jonah is complaining about Democratic hypocrisy over accepting the knee surgery amendment but throwing a fit over the abortion amendment. If Democrats get to decide which Republicans can have knee surgery, the Republicans feel they have the right to decide who gets an abortion. And by FSM, I want Jonah to be able to have one, and for that matter, get one.

  25. 25.

    Little Dreamer

    @licensed to kill time:

    That will change. We’ve had at least three different ways of performing these functions now, and each time the system is wiped and new functions are discovered to do the non-bolding and extra paragraphing in quotes.

  27. 27.

    Bubblegum Tate

    Pantload’s tweet makes perfect sense. He’s trying to spin this as a “women can control their bodies but men can’t” issue.

    In his world, knee = vagina.

    That explains a lot, actually.

  28. 28.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    Happy 243rd birthday, US Marine Corps! I didn’t know Marines could count that high ; )

  31. 31.

    slag

    Pursuant to a point John made in an earlier thread, I’m thinking this is a perfect opportunity for Democrats and Republicans to strike a deal. Democrats should now withdraw any restrictions on voluntary knee surgery coverage, and Republicans should now withdraw any restrictions on abortion coverage. Problem solved.

    Thank you, Jonah Goldberg, for being a true bipartisan leader!

  32. 32.

    licensed to kill time

    @Little Dreamer: Well, probably so, but for now I still say embrace the underscore key!

    @Notorious P.A.T.: This tip was built on the shoulders of giants like Steeplejack and others. I just get tired of my eyes being Blasted by Bold and though the failed attempts at blockquoting are funny I know from experience it’s embarrassing, too. Been there, etc..

  34. 34.

    Comrade Dread

    Yeah, that less than 25% of the Democrats that voted for the Stupak Amendment sure tells the tale eh?

    Yes. It’s the difference between saying All cats are mammals vs. All cats are orange.

    Had Mr. Goldberg said, “Hey, isn’t it wacky how some of these Democrats are hypocrites who want to control your medical decisions, but don’t want to control abortion?” it would be been less stupid.

    Aside from which, despite Republican hyperbole to the contrary, this has not been about taking control of your medical decisions, but about trying to address some of the problems in the current health care system.

    Even aside from that, this is exactly how the current health care system functions now, save it is your insurer who decides what medical care you will receive and, IIRC, many state laws force them to provide family planning services.

  35. 35.

    Rick Taylor

    Off topic, but this is just an excellent post by Booman directed towards impatient progressives like myself why process is important.

  36. 36.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    @Bubblegum Tate: Are we going to have to give Jonah an anatomy lesson:

    “Jonah, this is a girl. And your mom lied to you; girl’s do not have knee’s between their legs. It’s called a vagina.”

  38. 38.

    Brick Oven Bill

    Yes, Jonah is not too smart. But when interacting with an interviewer, Jonah says, ‘uhhhhh’ lots less than Barack.

    You know who is the worst ‘uhhhhh’ guy these days? Robert Gibbs.

    Obama must not feel emotionally threatened by this guy. What a dufus.

  41. 41.

    licensed to kill time

    @slag: Put two underscore characters in the empty line between paragraphs. Blockquote seems to hate empty lines.

  45. 45.

    Max

    @ John Cole – Hush! You’re being an East Coast Elite. That’s how they talk/write in “real america”.

  46. 46.

    Alan

    It’s almost like the RW faithful are being metaphorically teabagged by their pundits. The stupid, it steeps.

  47. 47.

    Brick Oven Bill

    When you give a presentation in the military, you are not allowed to say ‘uhhhhh’. The persons preparing your for your presentation yell ‘what are you, a fucking retard?’, if you say ‘uhhhhh’. So pretty soon you learn not to say ‘uhhhhh’.

    Barack did not learn this at Harvard. They were nice to Barack at Harvard. I got to the point where I was counting Gibbs’ ‘uhhhhhs’ during any particular question at the press conference. He was well into the twenties.

    ‘Umm’ is another no-no word gwangung.

  48. 48.

    slag

    @Brick Oven Bill: You’ve already proven that you don’t watch the speeches you claim to watch. And now we’re supposed to believe you watch the press conferences?

    I would ask whether or not you are a “retard”, but I’ve known many a “retard” much more aware and intelligible than you.

  50. 50.

    Ann B. Nonymous

    @Brick Oven Bill: I find it very hard to believe that you’ve never been called a fucking retard yourself, whatever your speech tics in person.

    (Since you’ve obviously never had sex, and most mentally retarded people are at least personable, perhaps your critics wanted to think of something more appropriate.)

    Hey, what’s a second-order differential equation again? That was really funny.

  54. 54.

    ellaesther

    This Jew sez:

    Jonah Goldberg: #2 on the list of Jews that I’d like to throw back into the humanity pool.

    (Who’s #1, you say? What, have you never heard of Connecticut?)

  55. 55.

    Tim F.

    @Comrade Dread: So Jonah is saying that Democrats want to outlaw kidney surgery except in cases of rape and incest? Wow. A verbally coherent form of his argument is even dumber than the original.

  56. 56.

    jibeaux

    Why do you need reminders of that fact? Personally, I am in no imminent danger of forgetting that.

  57. 57.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Barack did not learn this at Harvard. They were nice to Barack at Harvard.

    What the hell are you babbling about? He was elected head of the Harvard Law Review. That’s nice, I guess, but he did earn it.

    Your moronic posts are the visual equivalent of one long uhhhhhhhh. “Plato’s Republic . . . uhhhhh. . . Fannie Mae. . . . . ummmmmmm. . . Glenn Beck is right! and . . . . . uhhhhhhhhhhhh. . . . .teleprompter!”

  59. 59.

    jibeaux

    Sheesh, we are either going to have to ban BoB or most of the rest of you guys, it’s like moths to a flame these days. Yes, it’s a dull, insipid flame, and that’s exactly why you should not be attracted to it.

  60. 60.

    ChrisZ

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    I really am fascinated by you. I don’t understand the workings of a person’s mind that can lead him to think the things you write in comments are at all relevant. Really, it’s fascinating.

  61. 61.

    Brick Oven Bill

    Re: Second Order Differential Equations and Barack Obama

    When Barack makes the sound ‘uhhhhh’, he is not actually deep in thought. This is instead the hamster accelerating.

  62. 62.

    Anoniminous

    @Ann B. Nonymous:

    A second order differential equation is made after you’ve finished your first order differential equation and are still hungry. (I prefer mine with Worchestershire Sauce.)

  64. 64.

    Bullsmith

    So I guess they write the uuuuuh’s on his teleprompter so the hamster knows when to speed up. Makes sense. My only question is how hard is it to indoctrinate the hamster to Islamocommufacism?

  66. 66.

    lamh31

    OT, but Barbara Starr, CNN’s Pentagon Correspondent said on CNN, that the Fort Hood memorial is not just a memorial for the victims of Fort Hood, but all Americans who have lost loved one in the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars who didn’t have a “public” memorial, but private memorials and they get to hear their C-I-C, speak to not only the Fort Hood family pain, but their pain as well.

  67. 67.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    That’s funny, Bill. To a freshman in high school, maybe. But still, funny.

    You really need to develop some new material. You have turned into a parody of a parody of yourself.

  69. 69.

    ChrisZ

    @Tim F.:

    That is a pretty amazing performance, I think you need to frame those pictures with that caption. But even if I decided to troll, I think I would have a hard time coming up with topics as tangentially relevant as BoB does. Maybe my creativity just sucks.

  74. 74.

    Tiparillo

    Damn, why did you link this….I try to avoid the moronisphere, but then you get this past my shields.

  75. 75.

    Little Dreamer

    @TheHatOnMyCat:

    He secretly can’t wait for Obama to set up all those concentration camps so he can make it with all the dead people. He’s a nazi serial fucker.

  76. 76.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @Little Dreamer:

    Yes, I hear that they will build the death camps out there in the high desert where Bill lives. Gives a whole new meaning to the Burning Man event, really.

  77. 77.

    Makewi

    Had Mr. Goldberg said, “Hey, isn’t it wacky how some of these Democrats are hypocrites who want to control your medical decisions, but don’t want to control abortion?” it would be been less stupid.

    Some being a euphemism in this case for overwhelming majority of, but whatever.

    Aside from which, despite Republican hyperbole to the contrary, this has not been about taking control of your medical decisions, but about trying to address some of the problems in the current health care system.

    It may be hyperbole, but at the end of the day if both roads arrive at the same place then the underlying point remains true.

    Even aside from that, this is exactly how the current health care system functions now, save it is your insurer who decides what medical care you will receive and, IIRC, many state laws force them to provide family planning services.

    It’s the difference between private dollars being used and federal dollars. I would imagine you are aware of the difference.

  79. 79.

    The Populist

    Shoot, my African Gray Parrot is smarter than most of these idiots on the right. My Cocker Spaniel shows more interest in understanding his ball than these idiots take interest in working on compromise.

  80. 80.

    The Populist

    Ah yes, Jonah “If only we could truly govern this country conservatively for awhile” Goldberg. The guy who thinks nazis were liberal.

    He’s a catch.

  81. 81.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    __

    The underscore key is your friend! If you put two underscores on the line directly above your blockquote it will not bold .
    __
    If you put two underscores in the empty line between paragraphs, they all stay within the blockquote box!—AND they don’t show up, either.
    __
    Embrace your underscore key! Wield the authoritay!

    Is this true?

  83. 83.

    lamh31

    And…I’m done with CNN’s coverage of the Fort Hood memorial. They have some former speech writer of George Bush who just said, that “Bill Clinton and GWB wore their hearts on their sleeves, but that is not “this President’s style”. He that the President needs to “show more heart” today.
    Much respect to the fallen, but that speechwriter can in the words of former VP Cheney “go F*&k himself”!

  85. 85.

    The Populist

    When you give a presentation in the military, you are not allowed to say ‘uhhhhh’. The persons preparing your for your presentation yell ‘what are you, a fucking retard?’, if you say ‘uhhhhh’. So pretty soon you learn not to say ‘uhhhhh’.

    Explain to me why the Generals who get the most face time on television do it then?

    Barack did not learn this at Harvard. They were nice to Barack at Harvard. I got to the point where I was counting Gibbs’ ‘uhhhhhs’ during any particular question at the press conference. He was well into the twenties.

    Gee, most of us don’t “learn” this dude. We pick it up. I tend to see people who uhhhh while speaking to be THINKING. Beats the breathless Sarah Palin/Bachmann/Beck types who talk, talk, talk and have nothing to say.

    Sheesh, you are a troll aren’t you.

  87. 87.

    Scott H

    slightly ot: I just installed greasemonkey (thanks cleek!).

    This thread is much better with brick oven pie.

  88. 88.

    The Populist

    Yes, Jonah is not too smart. But when interacting with an interviewer, Jonah says, ‘uhhhhh’ lots less than Barack.

    Thus proving my point above. Those who speak and don’t stop to think are dumb.

    PERIOD.

    Uhhh Brick Oven Bill is uhhhhh lame.

    Obama must not feel emotionally threatened by this guy. What a dufus.

    Why should he? He’s a reasonable Republican. Yes, Gibbs, buffoon, is a REPUBLICAN.

    Get a clue uhhhh okay?

  91. 91.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    @The Populist:

    True story, I used to work for a guy who would be talking to you, and would just stop talking mid sentence, mid thought, for as long as 2-3 minutes at a time. Just silent. And then pick up where he left off.

    One of the most disconcerting habits I have ever been around. You would be surprised what you can imagine in 2-3 minutes of total silence in the middle of a conversation with your boss.

  93. 93.

    Sad_Dem

    MAYNARD: It reads, ‘Here may be found the last words of Joseph of
    Aramathea. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail
    in the Castle of uuggggggh’.
    ARTHUR: What?
    MAYNARD: ‘… the Castle of uuggggggh’.
    BEDEMIR: What is that?
    MAYNARD: He must have died while carving it.
    LAUNCELOT: Oh, come on!
    MAYNARD: Well, that’s what it says.
    ARTHUR: Look, if he was dying, he wouldn’t bother to carve ‘aaggggh’.
    He’d just say it!
    MAYNARD: Well, that’s what’s carved in the rock!
    GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating.

  95. 95.

    Little Dreamer

    @The Populist:

    No need. Obama doesn’t have a long list of idiotic statements that prove he is just grasping at idiocy when he makes that sound, such as one man who has an entire collection of Bushisms named after him.

  96. 96.

    licensed to kill time

    @The Populist: It is beyond my comprehension that anyone could not feel an overwhelming sense of relief listening to an articulate, thoughtful man like Obama after the bumbling mouthgargle that W barfed up for eight years.

    I try to put myself in the erm, footwear of those who live in rightwingistan and tell myself, “well, perhaps they get the same cringe factor/blood pressure spike when they hear Obama speak as I did whenever GWB appeared on the teevee” but try as I might, I cannot fathom it.

  98. 98.

    The Populist

    One of the most disconcerting habits I have ever been around. You would be surprised what you can imagine in 2-3 minutes of total silence in the middle of a conversation with your boss.

    I had a boss like that. He was ADD from what we can tell.

    I was being a bit sarcastic above but really, we can sit here and call people who say Uhhhh alot are dumb but it’s just not true.

    Some might be in the case of GW Bush. I firmly believe GW said Uhhhh so much because he’s slow. Too much drinking and too many parties probably killed some brain cells.

    In the case of Obama, it’s kinda annoying but you can still tell he’s 100 times smarter than Bush and many others. I took one of those IQ tests for kicks (not an online one but one administered by a company where I had to answer a ton of tough questions) and I scored a 120. Now I don’t feel like a smart guy or anything. I have areas where I have an expertise and other areas where I defer to people smarter than me. When I speak I think too much and sometimes get the uhhh in there. I try to pay attention to it, but it happens. So according to the likes of BoB, I must be dumb because I say UHHHHH between thoughts sometimes?

    Please.

  99. 99.

    LD50

    If Democrats get to decide which Republicans can have knee surgery, the Republicans feel they have the right to decide who gets an abortion. And by FSM, I want Jonah to be able to have one, and for that matter, get one.

    The real tragedy here is that Lucianne didn’t have one.

  100. 100.

    The Populist

    No need. Obama doesn’t have a long list of idiotic statements that prove he is just grasping at idiocy when he makes that sound, such as one man who has an entire collection of Bushisms named after him.

    Agreed Little Dreamer. As I said a few posts above this one, I do it and I know many smart people who do too. Sometimes it’s slowness, sometimes it’s due to being tired/up all hours dealing with things (most likely in Obama’s case), sometimes it’s just how some are wired.

    This idea that Uhhhhh means somebody is dumb makes me question the idiot saying such things. Obama is articulate, Bush is not. I am one who thinks Bush is slow but not totally dumb. Bush isn’t a rocket scientist either…he’s of average intelligence at best who acts like a kid who thinks he knows it all.

  101. 101.

    The Populist

    It is beyond my comprehension that anyone could not feel an overwhelming sense of relief listening to an articulate, thoughtful man like Obama after the bumbling mouthgargle that W barfed up for eight years.

    Licensed, Agreed 100% my man. If I am not wrong, Reagan was good at reading his prepared scripts but he also liked to Uhhhhh all the time. Using the rightie logic on this issue, he must be a big dummy too!

    I try to put myself in the erm, footwear of those who live in rightwingistan and tell myself, “well, perhaps they get the same cringe factor/blood pressure spike when they hear Obama speak as I did whenever GWB appeared on the teevee” but try as I might, I cannot fathom it.

    Good point. I see it. If somebody hates or despises a public figure or politician they pick at the obvious flaws.

  102. 102.

    Randy P

    @TheHatOnMyCat:

    True story, I used to work for a guy who would be talking to you, and would just stop talking mid sentence, mid thought, for as long as 2-3 minutes at a time. Just silent. And then pick up where he left off.

    I’ve actually had to train myself to insert noises like ummm into my pauses. They weren’t 2 minute pauses, but apparently they were disconcertingly long. Somebody would ask me a question. I’d be thinking, working out a well-thought out response as correct as I could make it, and they’d be sitting there wondering if I even heard the question. Five seconds, say.

    My progeny in particular complained about this all the time. So I’ve tried to consciously develop the habit of inserting audio feedback to indicate that I heard the question and the processing machinery is working on answer.

    My wife has never complained, so she must just be used to me.

  104. 104.

    slippy

    What will really be fascinating is seeing Brick Oven Bill give his public speaking performance.

    Because, regardless of whether he says “uhh” a lot, I plan on being there to shout in his face that he’s a dumbass everytime he says something stupid. Which, given his track record on BJ, would be about every other sentence.

    I plan on enjoying this a lot, should it ever come to pass.

  106. 106.

    Little Dreamer

    If I combine the subjects of the previous thread and this one, can I consider it “knee-jerk?”

  107. 107.

    Comrade Dread

    Some being a euphemism in this case for overwhelming majority of, but whatever.

    The latest Gallup poll I saw broke it down with 61% of Democrats being pro-abortion and 33% of Democrats being pro-life.

    That is hardly an insignificant minority that can be dismissed as a rounding error. (Even if you and Goldberg, and probably some liberals here might like to dismiss them.)

    It may be hyperbole, but at the end of the day if both roads arrive at the same place then the underlying point remains true.

    No, because in the hyperbole, you paint a group of people as cackling communist supervillains just waiting to decide whether or not granny lives or dies. It’s a strawman.

    Instead of acknowledging the fact that your health care decisions are not made by you and your doctor. They are made by a third party corporation with a limited appeal structure which is concerned with making a profit.

    Now, one may certainly argue that this situation is more preferable to a system where these decisions are made by a government employee working in an office building, but let’s not let rhetoric about freedom and liberty obscure the essential fact that you and I are NOT really in control of our health care decisions.

    It’s the difference between private dollars being used and federal dollars. I would imagine you are aware of the difference.

    Ah, okay, so if I sign the check over to Kaiser which is mandated by law to provide family planning services in my state, and they hand it over to the family planning clinic/division, that is morally acceptable, but if I sign the check to the Treasury which hands out money to a family planning clinic, then it becomes something completely different and morally unacceptable?

    Even if every other private insurance company does the same or is forced to by mandate?

    Okay, then.

  108. 108.

    LoveMonkey

    @Randy P:

    The boss who did these long silences on me would, during the little blackouts, get an expression on his face which I can only describe as the expression of someone who has just discovered that his left leg is inexplicably missing. Just a frozen look of perplexed amazement, as if trying to process information that had just come in from outer space.

    I was always afraid that if I spoke during these interruptions, he’d explode like the fat man on Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life. Just, bang, and I’d be standing there covered in viscera.

  109. 109.

    Shoot for the Mooon

    Aw – just just your average conservative WASP family fighting over the coffin at poppy’s funeral for his Rolex.

    Please pass the popcorn – heavy on the butter :^)

    The Sunday firings of executives at the Washington Times and the possible exit of its top editor are apparently being driven more than previously known by last month’s transfer of power of the Unification Church and associated business empire from Rev. Sun Myung Moon to his children.

    A newsroom source familiar with church politics tells TPM that the root of the shakeup at the Washington Times is a feud between Hyung-jin Moon, 30, and Hyun-jin Moon, 40, also known as Preston, both U.S.-educated sons of church Father Rev. Sun Myung Moon. The church announced in early October — in an exclusive given, notably, to the Associated Press not the Washington Times — that day-to-day operations were being handed over to Preston, Hyung-jin, and a third son.

    Preston is chairman of News World Communications, the church-owned parent company of the Washington Times.

    The youngest of the three sons, Hyung-jin, was selected last year to be the church’s religious leader, presumably a responsibility that will fully vest when his father, who is nearly 90, dies. Hyung-jin may have won Rev. Moon’s favor with feats such as his reportedly performing 21,000 “full body” blows bows in honor of his parents over the summer.

    But the selection of Preston’s young brother for the high-profile role — along with Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s doling out of powerful posts to other siblings — rankled Preston, a Harvard MBA who has competed in two Olympics on the Korean equestrian team, the source tells us.

  110. 110.

    YellowJournalism

    I don’t get it. So is he saying that only men have knees? And that they have no control over these knees?

  113. 113.

    Da Bomb

    And it even gets better.

    In a news release, Fat and Greay Assed Limbaugh suggested Hall was singled out because of his notoriety.

    Seriously?? So throwing 19 USED condoms all over this woman’s front yard probably didnt’ have anything to do with it? He was singled out? Do they have roving gangs of condom discarders in Idaho Falls? Is this some sort of weird hobby that men like to go to yards and throw their used condoms all over the place like leaves? Is this the equivalent of toilet papering a house on Halloween?? I really wanna know how he was “singled out.

    This the modern Republican party.

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    Anne Laurie

    Jonah’s just convinced that his mother would have aborted him if she’d been allowed to do so… possibly because that’s what Lucianne told him. And, frankly, could you blame her?

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    licensed to kill time

    @Da Bomb: Fat And Greasy Assed Limbaugh probably thinks he was singled out because of his notoriety on the drug charges, NFL fiasco, boner pill problems, etc. It’s never what you actually do or say that is the problem, it’s always a conspiracy to make you a victim for political reasons.

    Because that’s what they do.

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    slag

    @Anne Laurie: If only she had someone around to help her make a more responsible choice. Sadly, this is what happens when people don’t have good role models. Just imagine how many more kids will end up like Jonah Goldberg as a result of our cultural failures.

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    bemused

    @Da Bomb:
    I’m waiting for rightwingers to say Prejean is just being picked on for her homemade video Another stupid dimwit. Did it not occur to her that her little video had a pretty good chance of surfacing sooner or later? She doesn’t seem like the brightest bulb in the room but there are so many instances when R’s just don’t look before they leap. Maybe they get away with it so often, they think they don’t have to.

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    Da Bomb

    @Citizen_X: Yes, precisely. How gross!

    @bemused: She is such a flippin’ idiot. After she said opposites’ marriage, I was done listening to her. Who the hell calls marriage between a man and a woman, opposites marriage?

    Damned Idiot!

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    Tax Analyst

    RE: “He actually threw USED condoms all over the yard of his ex-girlfriend. 19 of them.”

    Nothin’ says “Look what I’ve been reduced to since you spurned my love.” than throwing 19 used condoms on to your ex-girlfriends front lawn. I wonder if the number has some significance? Naw, probably just whatever he had handy, so to speak. Or maybe he was building up to something, sort of like “ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall”, only with used rubbers. “Ninety-nine condoms of…” well, you can probably catch the gist of that…I’m sure he certainly could.

    Consider this the desperate actions of a lost soul crying out, “Oh God, why won’t somebody lock my sick ass up in jail before I do something even more disgustingly lame, sick and repulsive”

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