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A Question

by John Cole|  November 13, 20099:47 am| 91 Comments

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Without google, who are AC Wharton and John Peyton?

Answer: The mayors of Memphis and Jacksonville, respectively, both of whom govern cities with population sizes comparable to Alaska. I’m betting 99% of you have never heard of them.

So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

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  1. 1.

    b-psycho

    November 13, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Because Alaska doesn’t have that pesky negro problem those outposts of librul evil in Real America do.

    /whatwingnutsarereallythinking

  2. 2.

    EdTheRed

    November 13, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Tom Regan: I don’t blame her. She sees the angle–which is you–and she plays it. She’s a grifter, just like her brother. They probably had grifter parents and grifter grandparents and
    someday they’ll each spawn little grifter kids…

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    November 13, 2009 at 9:54 am

    I think it’s a safe bet that neither of them were ever brutally savaged by Katie Couric, so there’s your justification right there.

    -dms

  4. 4.

    EdTheRed

    November 13, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Oh bother, it’s Tom Reagan, not Regan…I just hate typing that name. I should’ve just gone with “Gabriel Byrne.”

  5. 5.

    geg6

    November 13, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Because…

    Starbursts! That’s why!

  6. 6.

    John Cole

    November 13, 2009 at 9:58 am

    I’m just frustrated. Her two accomplishments as Governor were to give Rich Lowry a boner and to pass an ethics bill that SHE COULDN’T LIVE UP TO.

    And now we have to hear her for the next month. Just kill me.

  7. 7.

    cleek

    November 13, 2009 at 9:58 am

    when it comes to the media: what the GOP wants, the GOP gets.

  8. 8.

    NickM

    November 13, 2009 at 9:59 am

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    Starbursts and Wolverines, that’s why!

  9. 9.

    Zifnab

    November 13, 2009 at 9:59 am

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    Teabaggers would protest otherwise.

    :-p In all seriousness, John Edwards got a fair amount of attention after the failed ’04 race on the assumption that he was going to run for President in ’08 with a big grass roots public backing.

    He didn’t get the massive media blow job Princess Sarah received, but then the Dems don’t have the media in the can like the GOP does.

  10. 10.

    Svensker

    November 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Her two accomplishments as Governor were to give Rich Lowry a boner

    From what I’ve heard, that’s a pretty, um, small accomplishment.

  11. 11.

    Karen S.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

    As long as there are people buying what she’s selling, she’ll have an audience. That audience includes reporters and their conglomerate masters who are convinced that what she sells — “Real American Authenticity” laced with bitterness and resentment toward anyone they perceive to be a member of the “elites” — bumps up their ratings and page views.

  12. 12.

    Max

    November 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

    I knew who Peyton was. I used to live in Jax. He’s nothing to crow about. Jax has issues that go far beyond the Jaguars.

    But, it’s Georgia Bulldog Red and they love them some Sarah Palin. I have a friend that is planning on going to see her when she’s there.

    Fun fact, Jax is the largest city (in area) in the U.S. The St John’s River that flows through Jax is one of the few rivers that flow north.

    I recommend skipping Jax and going to St Augustine instead. Great downtown and perfect for eating oysters and doing a pub crawl.

    /travel guide

  13. 13.

    Lolis

    November 13, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Well, her self-pity tour is just one more reason she will never win in politics again. Republicans love whiners. I read a comment the other day at NYT about how Palin was teh awesome because she attacked Obama. Next sentence was about how sad it was that the media and political opponents “trashed her.” The bizarro disconnect boggles the mind. I guess the MSM never covered people who thought Obama was a Kenyan infiltrator, a terrorist wannabe, or “a racist.”

    As HRC made popular again, “If you can’t stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen.” In Palin’s case it is get out but then write a self-serving book about how unfair the kitchen was to you. Gag.

  14. 14.

    Cat Lady

    November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

    I hope President McCain will be asked to explain this to us on my TV on Sunday, and then pull a Tancredo. This would be the one time I actually would watch him on a Sunday show.

  15. 15.

    Max

    November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

    @John Cole: Cheer up buckaroo. Looks like her book is full of lies and the McCain campaign is disputing it’s “facts”. For example, that she had to pay the expenses for her own vetting.

    Gonna be fun to watch.

  16. 16.

    maye

    November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

    She’s a phenom. An ordinary, mediocre intellect, beauty queen-turned-politician, got selected to run for VP on the ticket of one of the two major political parties in the U.S. She turned into a media disaster/spectacle, and now she’s cashing in. She’s adored, reviled, and marketable for only a limited time. It’s what makes America great.

  17. 17.

    Scott H

    November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Where’s B.O.B.? Nobody’s talking about pie today…

  18. 18.

    Zifnab

    November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

    @John Cole:

    And now we have to hear her for the next month. Just kill me.

    See: Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole Smith, John Bennie Ramsee, Michael Jackson, OJ Simpson
    Then you’ve got Newt Gingrich, Dick Army, and John McCain in the political sphere.

    The media gets a fixation and they’ll dog that “story” to death for as long as they can pump it. Sarah’s just a variation on a theme.

    Don’t worry. Once the next season of the Kardashians comes out, this’ll fall to the back burner.

  19. 19.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:04 am

    John Cole:

    … now we have to hear her for the next month. Just kill me.

    Nah. The book comes out in four days, then it’s good for another 7-10 days of mocking.

    So don’t fret. We only have to hear from her for the next 2 weeks.

    On another note, the book retails for $28.99. Amazons price? 9 bucks.

    .

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    November 13, 2009 at 10:04 am

    @John Cole: You’re forgetting the time that she spent $200K on clothing in a month. That’s an impressive accomplishment, in its own way.

    (and frankly, I’d much rather have GOP donor money go to the Sarah Palin Wardrobe Fund then to the Attack Ad Fund).

    -dms

  21. 21.

    Demo Woman

    November 13, 2009 at 10:05 am

    @Svensker: John needs to post a warning that it’s harmful to your keyboard if you drink while reading the comments.

  22. 22.

    EconWatcher

    November 13, 2009 at 10:05 am

    And yet, and yet–isn’t she one of our favorite topics on this site? Let’s face it, she’s interesting. Not in a good way, but still, she’s interesting.

  23. 23.

    CatStaff

    November 13, 2009 at 10:06 am

    What cracks me up is how much Katie Couric gets under Palin’s skin. Of course, much of that is because Katie is doing what Myth Alaska always wanted to do, but didn’t have the required marginal talent for, and so she ended up shoveling fish guts or whatever in the back of beyond while Katie’s on TV all the time.

    Palin is wearing a higher quality hair extension these days, I’ll give her that.

  24. 24.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:07 am

    John Cole:

    Her two accomplishments as Governor were to give Rich Lowry a boner and to pass an ethics bill that SHE COULDN’T LIVE UP TO.

    And, don’t forget, according to Sarah, she finished the 4 year job of governor in only 30 months. Cuz she’s such a hard worker, doncha know?

    .

  25. 25.

    CatStaff

    November 13, 2009 at 10:08 am

    @JGabriel: Yeah, but Wal-Mart apparently started a price war several weeks ago, dropping the price to $9, and then Amazon followed suit.

  26. 26.

    Betsy

    November 13, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Without google, who are AC Wharton and John Peyton?

    Answer: The mayors of Memphis and Jacksonville, respectively, both of whom govern cities with population sizes comparable to Alaska. I’m betting 99% of you have never heard of them.

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    She’s hotter than they are.
    SATSQ

  27. 27.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:11 am

    EconWatcher:

    Let’s face it, she’s interesting.

    I think you mean “hysterical”. In both senses.

    .

  28. 28.

    geg6

    November 13, 2009 at 10:12 am

    @Max:

    The St John’s River that flows through Jax is one of the few rivers that flow north.

    There is nothing in this world that could ever induce me to want to live in Florida, let alone the hellhole that is Jacksonville.

    And having navigated both, I’ll take the north-flowing Monongahela over the St. John’s any day. ;-p

  29. 29.

    Singularity

    November 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

    @2 EdtheRed

    God, I love Miller’s Crossing.

  30. 30.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

    CatStaff:

    Palin is wearing a higher quality hair extension these days, I’ll give her that.

    Yeah, what’s up with that hairdo in the Oprah clips? It looks Palin’s hair is falling from a dome that floats 1.5″ above her skull. Kind of like Lisa Marie in Mars Attacks, but brunettish instead of blonde.

    .

  31. 31.

    SGEW

    November 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

    To be totally fair, mayors usually do not have the same breadth of executive power over their constituents’ lives as state governors do. Even though Alaska has a smaller population than, say, Providence, RI, it is still a full State of the Union, and is vested with its own quasi-sovereignty and constitutional powers; powers that a municipality simply cannot exercise.

    In other words, when it comes to executive offices, I would probably treat a state governor’s resume more seriously than I would a mayor’s; even if said mayor’s constituency was of equal or greater size (exceptions would be made for particularly massive or challenging municipalities, such as NYC, LA, or whatnot).

    [However, of course, so saying, the powers of the office one has held has only so much to do with one’s qualifications; for instance, I would much rather hear about Mayor Cory Booker policy ideas (Newark, pop. 281,402), then ex-Governor Mitt Romney’s (Massachusetts, pop. 6,497,967).]

  32. 32.

    Michael D.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:17 am

    @geg6: I remember growing up in Canada, thinking of Florida as the happiest place on earth – when you grow up in the North, you think that way. Then I moved to Atlanta and had to drive through Florida. It is, without question, generally populated by the most backward, uneducated people in this country. Especially in the northern part. It is a godawful stain.

    There’s a reason Fark.com has a Florida category.

  33. 33.

    They Live By Night

    November 13, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Can we please fast-forward to the time when she’s doing dinner theater in Branson?

  34. 34.

    Napoleon

    November 13, 2009 at 10:18 am

    @geg6:

    Or the Cuyahoga, or Chagrin, or Black, ect, etc. I live w/i 50 miles of a dozen rivers that flow north (one about a mile from my house), so I don’t know what the big deal is.

  35. 35.

    SGEW

    November 13, 2009 at 10:19 am

    Huh, moderation. Out of practice w/ th’ spam filter, I am!

  36. 36.

    Max

    November 13, 2009 at 10:20 am

    It is, without question, generally populated by the most backward, uneducated people in this country. Especially in the northern part. It is a godawful stain.

    Having lived in both Orlando and Jax, I can say that “Florida” stops around Daytona Beach. Everything north of there is really South Georgia.

  37. 37.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Michael D.:

    … Florida. It is, without question, generally populated by the most backward, uneducated people in this country. Especially in the northern part.

    I’ve always heard that the Panhandle, in particular, is filled filled with Alabamian refugees who left there because it got too intellectual.

    .

  38. 38.

    R-Jud

    November 13, 2009 at 10:22 am

    @EdTheRed: This is also what I think of whenever I hear “grifter” mentioned. And I’d much rather think about Gabriel Byrne than Sarah Palin.

  39. 39.

    GReynoldsCT00

    November 13, 2009 at 10:23 am

    @Scott H: \

    shhhhhh! it would be nice to have one thread that he wasn’t trying to dominate

  40. 40.

    cmorenc

    November 13, 2009 at 10:23 am

    We’d be lots more relaxed about this whole Sarah Palin publicity phoenomenon and lots less annoyed if we were 100% confident she has absolutely no chance to succeed in gaining any actual power, instead of only 99.5% confident.

  41. 41.

    JGabriel

    November 13, 2009 at 10:24 am

    Napoleon:

    Or the Cuyahoga

    Didn’t the Cuyahoga lose it’s status as a river after it burned down the third time?

    I mean, seriously, a river catches fire once, and it’s a freak event. The second time, maybe you say, “Wow, what a coincidence.”

    But three times? That’s just fuckin’ careless.

    .

  42. 42.

    GReynoldsCT00

    November 13, 2009 at 10:25 am

    @Michael D.:

    Agreed, I lived there briefly and left as soon as I could. We should just saw it off and let it drift

  43. 43.

    cleek

    November 13, 2009 at 10:29 am

    I’ll take the north-flowing Monongahela over the St. John’s any day.

    and put me down for the north-flowing Genesee

  44. 44.

    flukebucket

    November 13, 2009 at 10:29 am

    @Max:

    Georgia Bulldog Red and they love them some Sarah Palin.

    It gets no redder than Georgia Bulldog Red. I think Sarah would carry the state of Georgia as the Republican nominee. But that is no great accomplishment. Whoever the Republican nominee is will carry the state of Georgia. It is a god damn political disgrace down here.

  45. 45.

    Napoleon

    November 13, 2009 at 10:31 am

    @JGabriel:

    I actually think it has burned more then 3 times, but regardless it is still technically a river.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 13, 2009 at 10:33 am

    @Napoleon: The Fox River in Wisconsin.

  47. 47.

    Joey Maloney

    November 13, 2009 at 10:34 am

    @Max:

    Having lived in both Orlando and Jax, I can say that “Florida” stops around Daytona Beach. Everything north of there is really South Georgia.

    I have friends in Birmingham. They call the Florida panhandle “Lower Alabama”. Their theory is the name came about so people living south of Auburn would have someone to feel superior to.

  48. 48.

    SGEW

    November 13, 2009 at 10:35 am

    [reposting to escape moderation: who knew the mayor of Newark’s name is a spam filter word?!]

    To be totally fair, mayors usually do not have the same breadth of executive power over their constituents’ lives as state governors do. Even though Alaska has a smaller population than, say, Providence, RI, it is still a full State of the Union, and is vested with its own quasi-sovereignty and constitutional powers; powers that a municipality simply cannot exercise.

    In other words, when it comes to executive offices, I would probably treat a state governor’s resume more seriously than I would a mayor’s; even if said mayor’s constituency was of equal or greater size (exceptions would be made for particularly massive or challenging municipalities, such as NYC, LA, or whatnot).

    [However, of course, so saying, the powers of the office one has held has only so much to do with one’s qualifications; for instance, I would much rather hear about Mayor Cory B00ker’s policy ideas (Newark, pop. 281,402), then ex-Governor Mitt Romney’s (Massachusetts, pop. 6,497,967).]

  49. 49.

    Pasquinade

    November 13, 2009 at 10:36 am

    Alex Castellanos, a conservative media strategist and regular presence on CNN, raised questions of Sarah Palin’s viability for office..

    “I think it is going to be very tough for Sarah Palin, who has stepped back from the governorship under the explanation that her state would be better off without her, to now explain why the other 49 states would somehow be better off with her,” he concluded.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/13/castellanos-whacks-crist_n_356601.html

  50. 50.

    Michael D.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:36 am

    @flukebucket: I actually have faith that the people of Georgia would NOT elect Sarah Palin. I live here, and have for ten years.

    I’m probably naive, but I don’t get the sense that the “tea party” movement is as wing-nutty here as it is elsewhere.

  51. 51.

    geg6

    November 13, 2009 at 10:36 am

    @JGabriel:

    Didn’t the Cuyahoga lose it’s status as a river after it burned down the third time?

    Giggle.

    Sorry, but we Pittsburghers never get tired of laughing at that.

  52. 52.

    Max

    November 13, 2009 at 10:39 am

    @Joey Maloney: You just gave me flashbacks of my move to the Bay Area and that long drive east on I-10 from Jax. After Florida, comes Alabama, then Mississippi, then Louisiana, then Texas… it’s a red state nightmare and a horrible drive in the summer.

    I will say this, Florida and Texas have the nicest rest stops that I have seen.

  53. 53.

    GReynoldsCT00

    November 13, 2009 at 10:39 am

    @Joey Maloney:

    see Riviera, redneck

  54. 54.

    Max

    November 13, 2009 at 10:40 am

    @Max: edit: long drive “west”

  55. 55.

    arguingwithsignposts

    November 13, 2009 at 10:41 am

    @Max:

    I will say this, Florida and Texas have the nicest rest stops that I have seen.

    I give this to Texas, they actually have wifi at all their rest stops, even the ones around Midland-Odessa, which is the pit of hell as far as I’m concerned.

  56. 56.

    CatStaff

    November 13, 2009 at 10:42 am

    @JGabriel: Hahahahahahah!!!

  57. 57.

    bemused

    November 13, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Our media prefers gossipy, tabloid style “news”. It’s fun & entertaining for them & so much easier than doing real journalism.

  58. 58.

    Bill H

    November 13, 2009 at 10:45 am

    Listen people. You do realize that Alaska is populated by people who moved there to get rich? And, since there was nothing there to get rich on at the time, went crazy?

    Wyatt Earp was Marshall of Dodge City at no salary, being paid $2.50 for each guy he arrested. He decided he could not get rich that way, so he moved to Tombstone, AZ where he bought taverns and silver mines and became moderately rich. Then there was the OK Corral thing. He moved to Alaska, where he met a lady named Palin.

    Okay, I made that last part up. But Earp was all about getting rich, and look where he headed. Alaskans think about one thing all the time; getting rich. The lower 48 think about sex, mostly; Alaskans think about money.

  59. 59.

    Third Eye Open

    November 13, 2009 at 10:49 am

    @Michael D.: I have said it before, so I will say it again: Please do not come here; Do not send your parents and grandparents here; Drink our fucking orange juice, and then leave us the fuck alone. The sooner we can hit the bottom of our tourist-based economy, the sooner we can build a real one, or at the very least a reasonable facsimile. We have failing schools thanks in large part to the northern and midwesterners who come here, then refuse to actually pay any taxes, spending their leisure hours playing shuffleboard, protesting government involvement in their Medicare, and apparently, humping like rabid baboons.

  60. 60.

    Demo Woman

    November 13, 2009 at 10:50 am

    @Michael D.: lol, lol, lol
    You need to leave downtown once and a while.

  61. 61.

    kay

    November 13, 2009 at 10:51 am

    I’m just hoping “grifter” catches on, because it’s perfect.

  62. 62.

    gypsy howell

    November 13, 2009 at 11:00 am

    What makes it even more fun is that Palin has publicly dissed two of the Villagers’ own — Katie & Charlie– and now they don’t quite know how to act. On the one hand, they should be slobbering all over Palin because they are right-wing tools, but on the other hand, Thou Shalt Not Talk Smack About One of Our Own.

  63. 63.

    An Outhouse

    November 13, 2009 at 11:03 am

    “So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?”

    For the chance to laugh at Tina Fey.

  64. 64.

    Michael D.

    November 13, 2009 at 11:05 am

    @Demo Woman: I know. Which is why I added the “naive” part.

  65. 65.

    New Yorker

    November 13, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Since we’re been talking about Rochester here recently, I should bring up the fact that Monroe County, NY has more people than the state of Alaska, and that the county executive, Maggie Brooks, is a female Republican with far more executive experience than Palin.

    http://www.monroecounty.gov/executive-index.php

    So why didn’t McCain pick Maggie Brooks to be his running mate last fall. I asked my wingnut uncle this question last year and he didn’t answer, instead looking at me like I was crazy.

  66. 66.

    ET

    November 13, 2009 at 11:17 am

    Because for men, they aren’t nearly as attractive to look at as she is and because she wasn’t picked to be the vice presidential candidate. Other than that I haven’t a clue. It sure isn’t because she is intelligent or has something constructive to add to the national political dialog.

    I just wish her 15 min. was past so the media with their short attention span would go obsess over some new trivial made up scandal du jour or fame whore of the moment.

  67. 67.

    abrxas

    November 13, 2009 at 11:27 am

    John: we’re not just stuck with her for the next month, but likely the rest of our lives. She has no incentive to disappear and plenty of incentive to stick around.

    And I blame McCain as much as anyone. As I posted on my FB account last night:

    I understand that McCain is a war hero and suffered greatly in Vietnam and should therefore be accorded much respect. BUT there is no amount of suffering that could atone, no penance he could perform, now to make up for his decision to foist this interminably grating, insufferably obnoxious woman upon the nation. Thanks a-fucking-lot!

    You know we’re stuck with her for the rest of our lives, right?

  68. 68.

    Punchy

    November 13, 2009 at 11:39 am

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    Because the names you mentioned sound negroid, while Sarah Palin has front junk and winks. And plus.

  69. 69.

    Dan robinson

    November 13, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Because she has big hair, great teeth, and bodacious taa-taas, but I’m just guessing ’cause I’ m really drunk.

  70. 70.

    Kirk Spencer

    November 13, 2009 at 11:45 am

    @Michael D.:

    I’m probably naive, but I don’t get the sense that the “tea party” movement is as wing-nutty here as it is elsewhere.

    That’s because you’re in Atlanta. Try up here where Mullis is the state Senator – the man who wants to move the Georgia-Tennessee border a mile north so we can access the Tennessee river. Or take in the political discussions in the small towns near Helen or Dahlonega. Maybe go south to Perry where they had a MASSIVE tea party rally (a bit over a quarter of the county attended despite it being during a work-day).

    As Blake Clark says, “Be careful when you leave Atlanta, because once you leave Atlanta you’re entering Georgia.”

  71. 71.

    Mike in NC

    November 13, 2009 at 11:49 am

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    Few weeks? More like ten years. See: Barnum, P. T., and Mencken, H. L., if you need to know any more…

  72. 72.

    fbjakes

    November 13, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    @Max: As a resident of Savannah, GA, I would point out that we refer to everything south of our Historic District as “North Jacksonville.” (and the rest of Georgia as “out there”)

  73. 73.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    November 13, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    So why are we going to spend the next few weeks listening to the lies of a grifter from up north who couldn’t even finish her term?

    Trick question! I’m not going to be listening.

    I couldn’t give less of a shit about Palin unless I were a rabbit dropping little raisin-turds.

    Although it’s amusing to see what the bloggers have to say about her.

  74. 74.

    flukebucket

    November 13, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    @Kirk Spencer:

    As Blake Clark says, “Be careful when you leave Atlanta, because once you leave Atlanta you’re entering Georgia.”

    I have lived here for over 50 years and that pretty much sums it up. Atlanta and Georgia are two entirely different ball games.

  75. 75.

    carolatl

    November 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    @Kirk Spencer

    You don’t even have to get that far outside of Atlanta. Come up to Cobb County, where I live, and you’ll find plenty of folks who think just like those in the rural parts of the state.

    @Michael D

    I wish I could agree w/you but I do think you’re naive. Get outside the Perimeter and try talking just about anyone you run into. Everyone in my freakin’ family (except, thankfully, my brother, and he’s a member of the “liberal MSM”) thinks Sister Sarah is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That’s b/c she’s a “good Christian woman.”

  76. 76.

    Kirk Spencer

    November 13, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    @carolatl: I don’t think of Cobb County as Atlanta. I remember reading why MARTA doesn’t have ride-share for I-75 North travelers. I remember the Cobb gun control law. I remember that Barr was Cobb’s representative.

    Yep. Cobb ain’t Atlanta. Of course, neither is Stone Mountain or Forrest park or, well, a LOT of what’s outside the perimeter.

  77. 77.

    andy

    November 13, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    I hear the Mayor of Memphis can see Graceland from his window.

  78. 78.

    Annie

    November 13, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    @Svensker:

    LOL…..

    Unfortunately, after the book tour, Palin will keep reinventing herself.

    Now, we have Palin the author. Last month, we had Palin the Asian Economic Expert. Next, it will probably be Palin, the ex-Navy Seal (prove she wasn’t…); Palin, the Compassionate Conservative; Palin, the Home Schooling Mother, etc.

    It will never end.

  79. 79.

    Michael D.

    November 13, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    @carolatl:

    Get outside the Perimeter and try talking just about anyone you run into.

    OTP? Gurl, is you on crack?

  80. 80.

    Nutella

    November 13, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Are AC Wharton and John Peyton and carrying out their duties for their full elected terms of office? B-O-R-I-N-G!!

  81. 81.

    carolatl

    November 13, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    @Michael D

    I live OTP! It’s very lonely out here for me. Actually, I’m a native – born and raised in north Cobb. My whole family are wingers. I also have step-family in small-town northern Alabama, which is even scarier than this area. My dad went to a tea party in Birmingham on Wednesday. Sometimes it’s just impossible to find anything to talk about that doesn’t leave us screaming at each other.

    My brother and I are the family’s “token libruls.” Strangely enough, we’re also the only two w/college educations. Hmmm, think there’s a correlation?

  82. 82.

    Michael D.

    November 13, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    @carolatl:

    I live OTP!

    My bad! It’s far more likely you are on Meth than crack.

    Well, at least I know you didn’t get your degrees from Berkeley – because Sean Hannity says that’s a bastion of leftists and commies and your family would have been ordered to perform post-natal abortions on you both. Because, you know, for wingers, it’s perfectly OK to kill people after they’re born.

    Be careful.

  83. 83.

    Common Sense

    November 13, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Yeah but can you see Russia from Memphis?

  84. 84.

    skippy

    November 13, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    without google, who are ac wharton and john peyton?

    ah, john, without google, who are any of us, after all?

  85. 85.

    binzinerator

    November 13, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    @Max:

    Having lived in both Orlando and Jax, I can say that “Florida” stops around Daytona Beach. Everything north of there is really South Georgia.

    As a friend who lives in south Fla said, you gotta go north to go south.

  86. 86.

    binzinerator

    November 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    @Michael D.:

    I’m probably naive, but I don’t get the sense that the “tea party” movement is as wing-nutty here as it is elsewhere.

    Hmm. Drive 10 miles out of Atlanta (any place except Athens) and I wonder what you’d find then.

    I remember the tensions in Forsyth County in the years following the civil rights marches and the Klan counter-demonstrators there in 1987. I am certain that kind of ingrained hate that I saw there is going away without a peep. Even after more than 20 years.

    I lived in Atlanta in the late 80’s and early 90’s — for a while just down the street from the Eagle, the gay bar that was in the news a few months ago when the cops came in and threw everyone on floor and arrested them for being gay.

    That incident makes me confident, sadly, in believing Teabaggerism will thrive in GA.

    Maybe not as nutty. Doubt it. But they know what they’re really in it for, and protesting taxes is just the abstraction of it.

  87. 87.

    binzinerator

    November 13, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    @binzinerator:

    Correction: It is NOT going away without a peep.

  88. 88.

    Deborah

    November 13, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    If neither of those guys is willing to stand up and demand to know why the phrase “In God We Trust” has been moving around on the nickel and doesn’t it, you know, show that Obama is a godless communist, then you have your answer. They probably talk about property taxes and stuff.

  89. 89.

    Splitting Image

    November 13, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    As annoying as it is to have Palin as a potentially permanent fixture on the noise shows, just think how much worse it would have been if McCain had picked somebody else.

    Before he picked her, Palin was viewed as a popular, fairly reasonable Republican with some unorthodox opinions and not really tainted by the stink of the Bush regime. Palin would have finished her term, likely been re-elected, and would have been available in 2012 as a fresh and relatively unknown commodity, with considerably more experience and the gravitas that comes from having been re-elected.

    The first thing that came to my mind when McCain picked Palin and the bus started going over the cliff was a baseball team calling up a prize pitching prospect into the middle of a pennant race and blowing out his arm in a futile attempt to salvage a losing season.

    Palin could have been a valuable asset to the national ticket in 2012 or the logical candidate to take Mark Begich’s Senate seat back when it comes up in 2014. Instead the Republicans have fumbled her away to the talk-show racket.

    Good riddance. And maybe the one thing to be grateful to John McCain for.

  90. 90.

    Chuck Butcher

    November 13, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    @abrxas:

    You know we’re stuck with her for the rest of our lives, right?

    Nah, she’ll start losing her looks pretty quickly and that’ll be it. Sure, the dooling wingers she apes will hang for awhile after, but the media?

  91. 91.

    carolatl

    November 13, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    @Michael D

    Thanks for the advice, but it’s unnecessary. Around here I’m always lookin’ over my shoulder!

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