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by John Cole|  May 5, 20108:01 pm| 67 Comments

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I’m obviously in a pretty angry and volatile mood, so I’ll just stop here.

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  1. 1.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    May 5, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Throw something. Throw several things. It always works for me. Plus, you can effectively transfer your mood to Tunch.

  2. 2.

    Dreggas

    May 5, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    You’re angry so I don’t have to be.

    Seriously though John, people should be angry and if they aren’t it’s, to borrow the cliche, because they aren’t paying attention.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 5, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    John, take a couple of pictures of Tunch and Lily. Then post them for us. Everybody wins!

  4. 4.

    Mithras

    May 5, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    I’m in the same boat. I’ve been too mad to blog coherently since health care became a big debacle.

  5. 5.

    Midnight Marauder

    May 5, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    I’m obviously in a pretty angry and volatile mood, so I’ll just stop here.

    All right, ladies and gents! The action starts now! Over/under on the number of John Cole posts the rest of the night: 5!

    STEP RIGHT UP AND PUT YOUR MONEY DOWN!

  6. 6.

    LA Confidential Pantload

    May 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    What’s with all the pissing and moaning about a bunch of uniformed guys busting down a door in the middle of the night and coming in with guns blazing? We do that every fucking night in Afghanistan and Iraq, and neither of those is even our country. Man, y’all are some fainting-couch prima donnas.

  7. 7.

    mellowjohn

    May 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    you, john? angry and volatile? who’da thunk?
    pet the cat, scratch the dog’s ears, pop open a microbrew and have a good evening.

  8. 8.

    Dave Fud

    May 5, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    @Mithras: Hell, I’ve been too mad to blog coherently since Bush was selected by the Supreme Court in 2000.

    Of course, I could be blaming my lack of coherence on external factors rather than my own inherent incoherence, but, well, there it is.

  9. 9.

    gbear

    May 5, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    What you need is a gun. It’s great stress release when you’re feeling agitated.

  10. 10.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    May 5, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I’m obviously in a pretty angry and volatile mood

    I don’t know why. We have wingnuts, and maybe some others noodling around with eugenics for political discourse, cops wasting peoples caged pets, and Joe Lieberman wanting to create a People’s Court for citizenship and Gawd knows what else. The Gulf of Mexico is turning black, and Arizona declares war on brown people. I say just another tricky day here in the Land of the High and Mighty.

    Maybe a big bowl of Hola Fruita might take the edge off. I am going to watch Burn’s Civil War to see if history is repeating itself, all over again. And hug my dog, of course.

  11. 11.

    Violet

    May 5, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    John, do you have new bird pictures? Or how about a Lily or Tuncho photo? Those should be soothing.

  12. 12.

    Ruckus

    May 5, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    @Mithras:
    Sure do understand and second that.

  13. 13.

    Elroy's Lunch

    May 5, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    And I thought it was just me.

    Give Tunch an “Atomic Headrub” and things will be better for both of you.

  14. 14.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    May 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Here’s another cop story that will probably (at least it did for me) make me freaked out and angry:

    Post-op trans woman in DC gets housed with male prisoners, because…she lost her purse.

  15. 15.

    Bnut

    May 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    @gbear:

    They are. On rural private property or at a licensed range, with a registered weapon that you don’t feel the need to jam in the small of your back to go to church, shop, or generally “be”.

  16. 16.

    JohnR

    May 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Yeah, it’s been that kind of week. Me, I cut some wood, dug out my last 2 beers and a half-pound of leftover fried rice and am cooling down with Jon Stewart and Bob and Tom. Soon I’ll be asleep and I’ll feel much better tomorrow. Just a suggestion.

  17. 17.

    ellaesther

    May 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    …so I’ll just stop here.

    I’m guessing this means we’ll be seeing angry and volatile posts at roughly 15 minute intervals for awhile, then.

    Oh John, I know we’re not technically supposed to get too touchy-feely around these parts (though clearly, the pet contingent failed to get the memo!), but I have to say: Thank you for falling on these swords for us all the time.

    I’ll be honest – on bad days, I read this blog with a side-eye and often choose not to click on anything, because my frame of mind just can’t take it. But it is a real gift — and I mean that — knowing that you’re all here, keeping track of the shit for me.

    Thank you.

    And yes: Me, too. Angry, and volatile.

  18. 18.

    burnspbesq

    May 5, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Good on the Phoenix Suns for pulling out the “Los Suns” unis and wearing them on Cinco de Mayo to protest the new Arizona law. I’m betting this was Steve Nash’s idea – he is, after all, a well known DFH from Canuckistan – with help from Grant Hill, whose mom was Hillary Clinton’s college roommate.

  19. 19.

    Svensker

    May 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    I was gonna ask “why?”, then went and read the last few posts. Ugh.

    Snuggle with Tunch and Lily. Read a good book, listen to some good music. Drink something yummy, eat something yummier.

    Hey, maybe I’ll take my own advice!

  20. 20.

    Pigs & Spiders

    May 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    These are my favorite John Cole posts. I can picture him pacing back and forth in front of his keyboard, possibly muttering obscenities to himself, as Tunch lay sanguinely on the sofa and Lily hides beneath it.

    Warms the cockles of my heart, it does.

  21. 21.

    HRA

    May 5, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Oh, ya? Let me tell you about my anger with a question.

    How do you stop a stalker? Call his boss, call campus security, what?

  22. 22.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    May 5, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Eek, here is the link:

  23. 23.

    Svensker

    May 5, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    @HRA:

    Seriously?

  24. 24.

    SectarianSofa

    May 5, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    @HRA:
    Know any 2nd amendment vigilantes? That would probably work where I live. Cops and campus security and both good places to start, though.

  25. 25.

    Svensker

    May 5, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    You think you’re pissed off. Went out to pick some lettuce from the veggie garden tonight and our groundhog had eaten it. All of it. Every last leaf on every last plant on every last row. Finished it off with the parsley and spinach. Little fugger. Not a thing left but some stumps.

  26. 26.

    Mike Kay

    May 5, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker

  27. 27.

    Starfish

    May 5, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Maryland has started passing some laws against some of this crap after the Mayor of Berwyn Heights had his dogs shot.

  28. 28.

    WereBear

    May 5, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    The day stuff like this doesn’t get me upset, I know I’m deep in a clinical depression and I have to get help.

  29. 29.

    stuckinred

    May 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    @Svensker: Whistle pigs!

  30. 30.

    SectarianSofa

    May 5, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Noticed one of the site ads was for an e-card thing, and it showed a nice teddy bear carrying a big pot of lilies. Which is great, though it reminded me that, since we have cat owners in the audience here, I might as harp on this : do not under any circumstances bring those things (lilies) into proximity of your cat. Very toxic. Had to take my (now very expensive) rescue kitty to the vet for several days after it chomped on a wedding-related Easter lily. Only takes one leaf, apparently.
    Randomly googled supporting link:
    http://www.askthecatdoctor.com/catpoisoning.html

  31. 31.

    sloan

    May 5, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Happy Cinco de Mayo!

    Now I wish I had a dime
    for every single time
    I’ve gotten stared down
    For being in the wrong side of town.

    And a rich man I’d be
    if I had that kind of chips
    lately I wanna smack the mouths
    of these racists.

    Podrás imaginarte desde afuera,
    ser un Mexicano cruzando la frontera,
    pensando en tu familia mientras que pasas,
    dejando todo lo que conoces atrás.

    Si tuvieras tú que esquivar las balas
    de unos cuantos gringos rancheros
    Las seguirás diciendo good for nothing wetback?
    si tuvieras tú que empezar de cero.

    Now why don’t you look down
    to where your feet is planted
    That U.S. soil that makes you take shit for granted
    If not for Santa Ana, just to let you know
    That where your feet are planted would be Mexico
    Correcto!

  32. 32.

    HRA

    May 5, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    @Svensker:

    Seriously. I can’t even begin to explain how many times I have changed routes across the campus to where I have to go in order to avoid him. Now he hides near my office and comes out as I approach the door. About a year ago, he said hi as I was walking across our inner plaza and I said hi back. This is all it took.

    This never happened to me when I was young and single.

    @SectarianSofa:

    Yes, I will have to go to campus security.

  33. 33.

    demo woman

    May 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    @WereBear: True!

  34. 34.

    stuckinred

    May 5, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    @HRA: Don’t let him think you are afraid of him.

  35. 35.

    Corner Stone

    May 5, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    @LA Confidential Pantload:

    What’s with all the pissing and moaning about a bunch of uniformed guys busting down a door in the middle of the night and coming in with guns blazing? We do that every fucking night in Afghanistan and Iraq, and neither of those is even our country. Man, y’all are some fainting-couch prima donnas.

    Agreed. Except pretty much all the time we indiscriminately kill several actual people. No one here’s going to blink about it. Except to tell you a little sum sum bout political realities and setch.

  36. 36.

    Annie

    May 5, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    @Pigs & Spiders:

    LOL…Me, too. Great image.

  37. 37.

    J.W. Hamner

    May 5, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    I don’t know whether this has already been addressed or not, but it looks like Netflix fixed the sound on the instant watch of Ken Burns’ Civil War.

  38. 38.

    jeffreyw

    May 5, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Hungry?

  39. 39.

    jeffreyw

    May 5, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Vanity

  40. 40.

    Svensker

    May 5, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    @HRA:

    Seriously. I can’t even begin to explain how many times I have changed routes across the campus to where I have to go in order to avoid him. Now he hides near my office and comes out as I approach the door. About a year ago, he said hi as I was walking across our inner plaza and I said hi back. This is all it took.

    Who is the guy? Does he work on campus? Do you know anything about him?

    The problem always is you don’t know what kind of crazy he is. If he’s just a timid slightly nutty guy, having campus security have a talk with him could end his infatuation toot sweet. (This worked for me with a peeping tom, once.) But maybe he’s vengeful or really weird. Talk to security, definitely — and ask them to see if he has any record or history. In the meantime, make sure your interactions with him have no emotional weight — no fear, no disgust, no anger — all those things could just feed whatever sickness he’s got going.

    Another possibility — don’t think I’m totally weird, but this worked for me not with a stalker, but with a guy who tried to molest me once. It totally freaked him out: I acted strange and disgusting. Snorted, burped, blew snot out of my nose, scratched my pits while making strange noises, laughed insanely to myself while muttering. He let go of me and ran off to find a more appetizing victim. You might want to talk to co-workers and friends before trying this but it could work. Also talk to co-workers and friends/acquaintances on campus and ask them to “buddy” you — keep an eye out for you and on him.

    So sorry you’re going through this. Ugh ugh ugh.

  41. 41.

    jeffreyw

    May 5, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Pissed off?

  42. 42.

    jeffreyw

    May 5, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Really Hungry?

  43. 43.

    South of I-10

    May 5, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I am still pissed from watching the video, I have about a million things due at work and now Little South is running fever. Guess who is working from home tomorrow?

  44. 44.

    ellaesther

    May 5, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Ok, how’s about some good news: You know the whole “Muslins r all radikul terrorists” meme?

    It turns out that the first person who called attention to the would-be car-bomb in Times Square was… A MUSLIM!

    No, really! Muslims can be heroes too!

    http://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/update-update-update/

  45. 45.

    jeff

    May 5, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    I’ve told HR about your outbursts. Not to be a snitch–I just thought I was doing you a favour, since you obviously have emotional trouble.

  46. 46.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    May 5, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Yes, I announced it last night late. Am about to dive in.

  47. 47.

    HRA

    May 5, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    @stuckinred:

    I am doing my best in that respect.

  48. 48.

    J.W. Hamner

    May 5, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    @General Egali Tarian Stuck:
    I figured as much… but I’m honestly shocked that it’s as awesome as I remember.

  49. 49.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 5, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Replying to your question in the Obey thread. My kittehs have were at war for almost 6 weeks, one of my cats attacked the other one (it was case of redirected aggression, he saw a cat outside the house, just outside the french windows got agitated and attacked my other cat. It was really bad, my husband tried to intervene and he got badly scratched. I had to keep them apart, because cat that was attacked was terrified and there was low pitched growling even when saw my other cat. This stalemate continued for weeks and weeks things are cooling down, with occasional skirmishes. My kittehs have been the best of friends before this incident and been together for about 6 years.

  50. 50.

    HRA

    May 5, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    @Svensker:

    Yes, he works for the Grounds dept. on campus. I tried calling his supervisor twice and all I got was a voice mail. I don’t want to leave a recording. This was on the recommendation of a friend who also works as a carpenter on campus.
    A student that I talked to for all her years on campus did not recommend calling the supervisor. She wanted me to tell him I was not interested in any relationship. I can’t take a chance on his reaction.

    He has been acting psycho IMO. I totally ignore him and he just does not get it.

  51. 51.

    RedKitten

    May 5, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I’m obviously in a pretty angry and volatile mood, so I’ll just stop here.

    Here, stare at this for awhile…you’ll feel better.

    Or if that doesn’t work, stare at this.

  52. 52.

    WereBear

    May 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    @HRA: You are totally right to be apprehensive about this. I just finished reading The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker, and you don’t want to confront, you don’t want to send anyone around to scare him, and you can’t handle this yourself.

    You do need to enlist real professionals; not well-meaning amateurs. Which brings me to the end of my expertise.

    But honestly; I would listen to my apprehension. And fast.

  53. 53.

    Fern

    May 5, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    @HRA: Some schools have someone on staff who deals with harassment issues. Is there one where you work?

    And I agree with the person who advised you not to talk with him.

  54. 54.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    May 5, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    It is spring, when this young man’s fancy turns to thoughts of slaughtering every single ant in the universe.

    No, really. Fuck the circle of life, the bastards got in my god damn Corn Pops.

  55. 55.

    scav

    May 5, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    @RedKitten: definitely the two-piece jammies!

  56. 56.

    RedKitten

    May 5, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    @scav: I know. The little tiny feet poking out of the jammies, and the little edge of his diaper peeking out — it just slays me.

  57. 57.

    donnah

    May 5, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Enjoy that little doll baby, Redkitten. I just took my middle son (who turned 21 last week) to the airport this morning. He’s going to work for Americorps until November. I miss him already.

  58. 58.

    HRA

    May 5, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    @Fern:

    We don’t have anyone at our place to deal with harassment. I think that may be under Human Resources.

    There is a worker upstairs at the Circulation dept. whose husband is with campus security. I was thinking of going to talk to him about it.

    @WereBear:

    I came to the need for action yesterday. I was coming from the parking lot over to my office when I spotted him in his golf cart circling my office door. I waited under cover for 10 minutes, crossed the street, and was almost to the door when he came out of nowhere barreling past me too closely and waving his hand. I did not acknowledge him and got in the door without looking back.

  59. 59.

    WereBear

    May 5, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    @HRA: It just set off all my spooky detectors; it’s just not normal for someone to persist when they are being ignored, but you are absolutely right to not engage.

    The problem is that dealing with such people is not common; and people’s advice is going to be based on normal people; which it would seem he is not.

    I would use such university connections as you might have to seek out advice from a psychologist or someone who has actual experience.

    If you seek help from security people; they will have a security solution. Friends will have bad date solutions… and so forth.

    You need someone with spooky experience; like the FBI or a psychiatrist or something like that.

    Sorry for butting in and carrying on, but I feel strongly that this is something that a) men don’t understand, and yet are responsible for handling it, and b) you’ve already got alarms going off, which means taking it seriously is not overreacting.

  60. 60.

    Corner Stone

    May 5, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    @donnah:

    Enjoy that little doll baby, Redkitten. I just took my middle son (who turned 21 last week) to the airport this morning. He’s going to work for Americorps until November. I miss him already.

    I’ve chimed in before on this as have others. But hell yeah. Live every second you can with him. Right now, today, tomorrow, this weekend. Just enjoy it and soak it up. I may never say another useful thing on this blog but this is true.
    Mine is 5 yrs old, 4ft tall and 50lb’s. I talk with him, wrestle around, BS, etc every day, and it’s never enough.

  61. 61.

    russell

    May 5, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    I’m obviously in a pretty angry and volatile mood, so I’ll just stop here.

    “Stop here”? Don’t be a wimp. Let your freak flag fly.

  62. 62.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 6, 2010 at 12:48 am

    @HRA: I’m glad you are taking it seriously, and I third or fourth the decision to talk to the security guard. Stalkers are not normal people. They have something broken in their heads that allow them to think, “This person, despite all actions to the contrary, wants me.” He sounds like he’s stepping up his behavior, too, which is worrisome. If security can’t handle it, you may need to go to the police. Oh, and having a paper trail of all your interactions can be helpful, too (I mean just jot them down, as repellent as that idea may be). Please keep us updated.

    @gbear: Man. You really bring the MN folks showing their asses, don’t you? On the good side, the SC ruling on Ratface Pawlenty stepping over his boundaries with the draconian unallotment measures he took!

    @ellaesther: Ditto this. I really appreciate you, Cole, and the other front pagers for wading through all this shit so I don’t have to read/watch it all. When I first started blogging, I had planned to be the lefty version of Michelle Malkin (still irks me the most prominent Asian woman in politics is her), but then I quickly realized that unless I wanted to be like her in every respect, I would have to do some serious research. I couldn’t stomach it. So, thanks. And, Cole, I like you angry. Most of your best posts come out of your righteous anger.

    RedKitten, SamKitten is way too cute for his own good. Still, as adorable as he is in the jammies, there’s something about him grinning under a Megadeath toque that warms the cockles of my heart.

  63. 63.

    OriGuy

    May 6, 2010 at 1:52 am

    I have friends who have had problems with stalkers. One moved to another state and the guy followed her. You’ve gotten some good advice here. Contact campus security, but also the local police. Keep records, like asiangrrlMN said. Restraining orders can be effective in some cases. On the other hand, do you have any friends in biker gangs?

  64. 64.

    Svensker

    May 6, 2010 at 7:28 am

    @HRA:

    A student that I talked to for all her years on campus did not recommend calling the supervisor. She wanted me to tell him I was not interested in any relationship. I can’t take a chance on his reaction.

    Do you have a big ugly guy friend who could tell him that he has noticed this guy watching HIS GIRL and he is getting very pissed off and it BETTER STOP. Make it not like it came from you and that he is protecting you — but that your friend is jealous and territorial and this creep had better not be looking at his woman or else.

    And talk to campus security.

  65. 65.

    Svensker

    May 6, 2010 at 7:28 am

    @RedKitten:

    Here, stare at this for awhile

    So sweet, so snuggly. What a darling. The pjs are slaying me.

  66. 66.

    carolatl

    May 6, 2010 at 9:28 am

    @RedKitten: RedKitten, I don’t comment here much, but wanted to let you know that I had to look at that jammies pic twice. So precious! He is really a doll.

    Mine are 13 (daughter) and 9 (son). That picture brings back great memories. I remember the days of two-piece baby pajamas like they were yesterday.

    I also remember thinking they couldn’t be any more adorable than they were when they were babies, but I was wrong. It just gets better and more interesting all the time.

  67. 67.

    Larkspur

    May 6, 2010 at 11:25 am

    @HRA – Hey, I don’t know if you are going to re-visit this thread, but I can’t stop thinking about your unpleasant stalker situation. And of course I have suggestions. Like were-bear, I am trepidatious about barging in like I know stuff, but I am worried.

    So: get ready for a combat situation. Do I mean carry a handgun? Lord, no: nothing that can be easily wrestled away from you, plus guns: never a good idea in daily life.

    But do carry something. It could be one of those lemon juice dispensers that look like a lemon, and you squeeze and squirt. Or a travel-size can of hair spray. Something to deploy directly in his face that you know isn’t lethal, but that he doesn’t know whether it is, and something that will give you opportunity to run the hell away. A non-toxic spray paint might work too.

    Also a big whistle or other noise-maker. Don’t wear it around your neck. And let folks in the vicinity know what type of noise-maker you’re packing.

    Make extra-sure that your cell-phone is charged, that you’ve gathered up all of your papers and folders before you leave anywhere (so that you aren’t distracted and fumbling). Wear shoes you can escape in. Check your car carefully, underneath and in the backseat. Be aware that he might try to disable your car, so if your car doesn’t start, be on super high alert.

    Don’t engage, as everyone has said. A stalker doesn’t get that you want him gone; he just gets that Yay! you talked to him again.

    Don’t do that thing where you thread your keys between your knuckles – one man-sized paw squeezing your fist can really do some damage.

    Also, you might want to think about hiring a PI to do a thorough, discreet background check – without talking to the guy directly.

    Finally, you might want to spent some time right now in some personal war-gaming strategizing. That is, what are you willing to do? How far are you willing to go? If he escalates to a physical attack, are you prepared to do some repellent things? Forget the knee to the groin. Can you use your fingers as weapon and stab them into his eyes? Can you shove your fingers way up his nose? Can you kick his fucking golf cart down a staircase? Can you do stuff that might make him dead?

    Like everyone else, I am hoping that a non-engagement strategy will cause him to lose interest. But you know the saying: Train hard, fight easy.

    I apologize in advance for being all presumptuous and possibly strange and off-putting.

    You have my best wishes.

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