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by DougJ|  January 21, 20114:04 pm| 44 Comments

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Balloon Juice is choking for me, it’s trying to connect to fastclick.media.net and it never does.

If you disable javascript, it loads more or less okay. This site is probably always going to have problems loading from time to time, and in my experience the best way around it is to disable javascript. It screws up the ability to reply to comments, but it doesn’t seem to affect too much else.

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  1. 1.

    BGinCHI

    January 21, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Could also be cuz it’s really cold out.

  2. 2.

    chopper

    January 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    FYJS!

  3. 3.

    blahblahblah

    January 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Annnnnnd, so Doug J recommends to the readership that we disable scripting so the advertising trackers can’t target ads for revenue generation!

    How long before this open thread is closed and tossed into the dustbin of histerjuice?

  4. 4.

    MikeJ

    January 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    While we’re on site mews, the new version of the pie filter for Chrome is now available. Click my name.

  5. 5.

    blahblahblah

    January 21, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Also, what happened to the avatars? I rather liked my ‘Animal’ muppetar.

  6. 6.

    BGinCHI

    January 21, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    @blahblahblah: Cole drank the avatar milkshake and found it bitter, like his heart.

  7. 7.

    CaptainFwiffo

    January 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Actually, I keep adblock around (without a subscription blacklist) for exactly this reason. I only block really annoying ads and let the rest go through to pay the bills. There’s always some third party doo-dad on every site that causes the site to choke, so I just add an adblock rule. Fastclick is one such doo-dad, quantserve is another annoying one.

  8. 8.

    Davis X. Machina

    January 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    NoScript for Firefox is another option

  9. 9.

    Punchy

    January 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    What’s wrong with Kansas this time?

  10. 10.

    Kryptik

    January 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    @CaptainFwiffo:

    I use NoScript for that exact same reason.

    If Ad providers didn’t let such buggy, virus and/or malware laden shit go through, or performance choking buggy flash ads that just about hijack the rest of the page until you find the painstakingly hidden close button on the flash object, most people probably wouldn’t feel the need to use adblock or NoScript or whatnot.

  11. 11.

    Martin

    January 21, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    The Flash blockers don’t block the connection to the remote server, just the flash execution. Pretty much have to remove Flash entirely (which is advised) to prevent the site choking in a case like this.

  12. 12.

    handy

    January 21, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Pretty much have to remove Flash entirely (which is advised)

    Pretty much this all the way.

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    Ruckus

    January 21, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I use no script and adblock on FF. The site looks great and works like it is supposed to for me.

  14. 14.

    jharp

    January 21, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I’m using ubuntu 10.04 and javascript is disabled and your site works better than any of the others I visit.

    No problem at all with comments. I’m happy as can be.

  15. 15.

    Adblock User

    January 21, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    There are ads on the Internet?

  16. 16.

    jharp

    January 21, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Oh, and I use firefox and have NoScript running.

  17. 17.

    MikeJ

    January 21, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    @Martin: The flash blocker in noscript blocks the remote connection. If you have an inferior flash blocker, get a better one.

  18. 18.

    Punchy

    January 21, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Even better for Kansas: passing a state amendment to block the new health care, even though every fucking 4th grader worth his sodium bicarbonate knows that a state law/amendment cannot trump a fed law. But hey, what’s a complete waste of time when the economy sucks, right?

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    blahblahblah

    January 21, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    adblock+ and noscript = heaven

  20. 20.

    licensed to kill time

    January 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I’ll chime in with another paean for NoScript and AdBlockPlus on FF. Using them makes the Internet a much calmer place and makes my elderly laptop run much faster and most importantly, more securely. You never know what’s lurking under those ads.

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    John Cole

    January 21, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    I think I need a blahblahblah blocker.

    At some point, people will realize the problem is, get this- a lot of people trying to access the website at the same time. And it just isn’t worth it to get more bandwidth to cover a few peaks every day.

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    Lee

    January 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    I’ve taken screenshots from home of the broken CSS when new visitors arrive at balloon juice.

    Screenshots

    Hope that helps,

  23. 23.

    Lee

    January 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    @John Cole:

    Sounds like it is not your site that is the problem but whoever serves up your ads.

    You might want to send them a little note letting them know the natives are talking about using adblock if they keep bogging down your site.

  24. 24.

    Ash Can

    January 21, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    @Punchy: Sounds like Brownback just wanted to get a buddy of his on the state payroll.

  25. 25.

    BR

    January 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Semi-relatedly, I highly recommend the Ghostery browser addon to block click tracking, etc.

  26. 26.

    fasteddie9318

    January 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Fucking internet, how does it work?

  27. 27.

    soonergrunt

    January 21, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Sarah Palin’s “Choose Your Own Path Presidency Adventure” from The Onion, FTW.

  28. 28.

    General Stuck

    January 21, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    @fasteddie9318:

    Fucking internet, how does it work?

    Like it always has. When the pod signal gets weak, just take another blue pill, relax, and leave the driving to us.

  29. 29.

    les

    January 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    @Punchy:

    And f’n Kobach is wasting time and money going after non-existent voter fraud, while he revises his Arizona anti-immigrant law for us. Honest to FSM, we’ve got the worst Federal/state politician lineup outside of S. Carolina. This will not end well. How long before they resurrect Phil the Panty-Sniffer Kline?

  30. 30.

    HyperIon

    January 21, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    I just installed No Script. And when i started FF again, this site loaded instantly. Thanks to whoever mentioned it.

  31. 31.

    ant

    January 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    This happen to me me today, as well. I turned the abp red stopsign back to red, and the problem went away.

    So much for the green abp experiment.

  32. 32.

    Bill Arnold

    January 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    I use NoScript, but in allow-everything mode, and then block specific sites that are causing trouble.

  33. 33.

    uptown

    January 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Use Opera, it has a site/ad blocker built in. Right click on page and select “Block Content…”. You can also select “Edit Site Preferences” to turn off javascript, stop pop ups, block third party cookies, etc…for any site.

  34. 34.

    Maude

    January 21, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Can you turn off stupid with site preferences?

  35. 35.

    HyperIon

    January 21, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    @Maude asked:

    Can you turn off stupid with site preferences?

    To escape the stupid, avoid the ‘tubes.

  36. 36.

    jbb

    January 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    John —

    In this case, the slowdown is caused entirely by a third party (one of your advertising services). You buying more bandwidth would have zero positive or negative effect.

    You need to ask your tech people to load all of your javascript asynchronously, which will prevent third-party slowdowns from affecting the site — the browser will continue to attempt to download the script, but it won’t block the rendering process in the browser.

  37. 37.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 21, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    No shit, it’s 62 here now and I want more!

    Something in the page is preventing my system from going into standby or hibernate. Since I leave this browser open all of the time and let the system cut back/shut down between perusing and posting, I have to close this tab between rounds. The Hosting Matters ad had to be blocked because I can’t hit ESC any more to get it to stop running. I hate web pages that have non-stop moving crap on them and I prefer to stop the shit while reading.

    Thank goodness for NoScript, FlashBlock and SeaMonkey. They make surfing the web a lot cleaner, faster and less annoying.

  38. 38.

    debbie

    January 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    As someone stuck with dial-up who disables javascript so the site will load in a decent amount of time, I was really happy to see whatever changes were made between Wednesday night and Thursday morning. Where before it was a solid block of hard-to-read grayness, the page now looks better than ever! Plus, even with javascript enabled, it loads more quickly so there’s time for editing. Thanks!

  39. 39.

    PurpleGirl

    January 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    I get better loading time results when I block Flash. I’ve said before that I have trouble with flashing, blinking and animated ads. Blocking Flash has made a big difference for me, and if I want to see a video I can always okay Flash for just that item.

  40. 40.

    Maude

    January 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    @debbie:
    I use K-Meleon and block image animation. It loads better and the browser is faster than FF. Also have dial-up.

  41. 41.

    mclaren

    January 21, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    I have zero problems getting this site to load, Doug. But of course I’m running Windows 2000 Pro. So I never have problems getting anything to run, from Flash 10 to javascript to…you name it.

    You were the one who unwisely decided to move to Windows 7, Doug. Now your computer is choking up on you and you just…can’t…understand it.

    People like me warned you.

    Windows 7 is shite.

    Okay. You went ahead and loaded Windows 7 on your computer anyway.

    Now deal with the consequences.

  42. 42.

    p mac

    January 21, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    For IE users: put the offending sites into “restricted” security group. It makes a huge, huge difference. Especially on Balloon Juice.

  43. 43.

    Nik

    January 22, 2011 at 1:38 am

    stupid palm pre still isn’t redirected to mobile site.

  44. 44.

    Patrix

    January 22, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    On a related note, why have two search forms on the left sidebar. Keep the Google Custom Search and get rid of the WordPress default one.

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