Bored today, so I’m just reading more fun stuff Rick Perry said.
[I]n a little-noticed passage in his first book, “On My Honor,” an encomium on the Boy Scouts published in 2008, Perry also drew a parallel between homosexuality and alcoholism. “Even if an alcoholic is powerless over alcohol once it enters his body, he still makes a choice to drink,” he wrote. “And, even if someone is attracted to a person of the same sex, he or she still makes a choice to engage in sexual activity with someone of the same gender.”In “On My Honor,” Perry also punted on the exact origins of homosexuality. He wrote that he is “no expert on the ‘nature versus nurture’ debate,” but that gays should simply choose abstinence. Perry’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment on whether he maintains this view.
I can’t wait to hear Bobo and David Gergen tell us all about how serious this cat is. This could be the most presidential election ever.
cleek
to complete the trifecta, how does he feel about sado-masochism ?
(FF spell-check corrects this to “soda-masochism”)
Paul in KY
Pretty sad that someone who would think that a person who has no control over what makes them wet would then think that person should have to experience abstinence-for-life, due to it making that person feel icky.
Edit: I bet Perry is all for lashing people, so there’s that.
Culture of Truth
Perry: “fr’instance, y’all is real thirsty, and there’s this real tall, dark, delicious drink, and it’s got a great body, and mouth feel, and you know it’s wrong, but dang you jus want a little taste…”
Villago Delenda Est
Also demonstrates little actual knowledge of how alcoholism develops.
It’s not as simple as “just say no”, no matter what Nancy Reagan may have told Rick via Family Ties.
aimai
Why like alcoholism? Why not like drinking wine which, in moderation (like all things) is a positive blessing? Even if you really thought that homosexuality was a choice, and even a bad choice *for your brand of christian* why on earth would you advocate total abstinence for everyone who doesn’t belong to your sect? What’s next? Are the Southern Baptists going to go all Prohibition on Dancing?
aimai
BGinCHI
Amazing he didn’t make the connection:
“First you take a little drink, and it’s good. Then before you know it you got a dude’s dick in your mouth.”
RandyH
So I am an alcoholic because I like guys? Who knew.
BGinCHI
@aimai: If Romney gets elected only criminals will have cards.
But they will not only be able to play basketball, they’ll be really good at it.
wenchacha
Rick Perry is indeed “no expert.”
That never stops Right-wing nutters from opining on everything under the Sun, as it slowly revolves around the Earth.
jeffreyw
Hey, don’t make fun of those poor souls. Soda shooting out of the nose is funny, yeah, but will no one think of the keyboards?
RandyH
@BGinCHI:
WIN!
So, SO True.
Villago Delenda Est
@wenchacha:
I see what you did there.
danimal
@aimai. You reminded me of the old joke about Southern Baptists (in a prior life, I attended a SBC college).
Why don’t Southern Baptists have sex standing up?
Because it can lead to dancing.
Southern Baptists already oppose dancing…ever see Footloose?
Samara Morgan
they will lurve him up.
hes another cowboy cat with a sixgun….aka a sociopath.
be sure and watch the VMAs..i think Foster the People might win.
theres a seachange coming….
:)
Arclite
Speaking of sodomy, silly me: here I thought Tunch farting caused the earthquake, when apparently it was teh gays.
Silly me.
Paul in KY
@aimai: Because Paul (the ex-Jewish one) said bad things about some Romans in Romans.
Also there is something in Leviticus, I think.
RosiesDad
@BGinCHI:
Laughing so hard I spit my soda [-masochism] all over my keyboard.
Comrade Dread
I think the decline to comment part is the best.
It’s saying, “I have moral convictions which I felt so strongly about I put them into a book… unless it will hurt my presidential campaign and then I won’t bother to defend my convictions.”
RandyH
Maybe that’s why long-neck beer bottles are so popular with the guys.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Paul in KY: The Walrus is Paul
ciaran
dude, respect on the musical references front! both for taste and relevance :0
dmsilev
Point of order: Some sources state that the proper form of the quotation is “Rum, buggery, and the lash”.
Google, normally the arbiter of such things, returns roughly the same number of hits for each, so I guess we’ll never know…
jl
My conclusion from the analysis of alcoholism is that Perry = Aristotle. We need this man.
/snark
Carnacki
So Rick Parry chose to be straight and wasn’t born this way? Interesting and explains a lot about why he triggers so many gaydars.
cleek
TPM says Perry now has a double-digit lead over Mittens.
but… based on what ? he hasn’t been in any debates yet, right? he hasn’t given any prime time speeches, right? what are they basing this opinion on… his hair?
jacy
@cleek:
I have soda-masochism. I blame the Coke Zero.
Jenny
Check out Parry’s rambling, retarded answer on abstinence that cause the audience to laugh
http://youtu.be/ngiJhmoFKkw
dmsilev
@cleek: I’m pretty sure it’s new-toy syndrome. Hopefully, within a week the GOP electorate will be spending more time playing with the box that their brand new Perry came in, along with whining for a Tickle me Palin.
RandyH
@Carnacki:
Rick pArry doesn’t trigger my Gaydar at all. Not one bit. His overbearing Marlboro-manliness triggers my ewwww sensation. The guy gives me the creeps.
Hal
He wrote the book in 2008. He has never indicated any other opinions, so why wouldn’t he still believe this?
Paul in KY
@dmsilev: The Pogue’s album is titled ‘Rum, Sodomy and the Lash’
Dennis SGMM
Elect an experienced teabagger!
Perry 2012
Paul in KY
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): I always thought so too.
RandyH
@Hal:
Do you honestly think this guy can write – a whole book?
I doubt he could even stay attentive if someone attempted to read him a book. Dude’s a fucking moron.
Ghostwriters can really ruin your career if you don’t actually read the book they wrote on your behalf. And I doubt that Rick pArry can read.
Thoughtcrime
DougJ,
Bored, are you? Maybe you should try having this in your ear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpL8XICJrc
Stooleo
So if I extrapolate this to Rick Santorum, you’d wake up with the dogs dick in your mouth.
Tonybrown74
@BGinCHI:
Internet has been won for the day! Everyone can go home now.
gnomedad
And even if someone is an idiot, he still makes the choice to run for office.
scav
@Stooleo: hell, we include mittens into the menage-á-n, and we’re with a dog on the roof of a moving car and things are really getting kinky.
RandyH
@BGinCHI:
I hereby nominate that to be one of the little blurb-links at the top of the blog. That is so awesome. Best quote in some time – since the dildos and wet-suits stuff, anyway.
John Puma
May we assume that in one or, perhaps, both of Perry’s books he has told the detailed story of his “conscious choice” of heterosexuality?
dmsilev
@Paul in KY: I know, but I’m referring back to the original source, Winston Churchill’s description of the “best traditions” of the Royal Navy.
Zifnab
In a sane world, every libertarian would turn his back on Perry on those words alone. “The government says you’re not allowed to f-ck” seems like a big freak’n slap-in-the-face to any small government conservative.
JGabriel
Choose your future. Choose life.
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Origuy
@Arclite: So the Jewish Jerry Falwell thinks that G-d sent the earthquake because of toleration of homosexuality? Vanuatu gets 5.0+ quakes almost monthly. What sort of abominations are going on there? Mixing linen with wool?
Thoughtcrime
@BGinCHI:
And is your deliverance through the backdoor if you’re drinking Moonshine?
RandyH
Must. Repent. Must. Repent.
Rick Perry meets Marcus Bachmann.
Ian
@wenchacha:
You believe in Fancy Schmancy Science, thus making you a non-believer. The Sun revolves around the Earth :p
BGinCHI
No way Molly Ivins stays in Heaven if this guy gets nominated.
She’s gonna be back to haunt his ass for sure.
BGinCHI
@RandyH: You can see which guy has the experience right there.
Ocular proof if I ever saw it.
Silver Owl
A lot of people are wishing today’s conservative man would practice abstinence. They are showing to be defective mentally and emotionally. Not to mention lacking character on nearly every level. lol
Bulworth
Perry will bring bipartisanship back to DC. Meaning all passing legislation will consist of the entire Republican caucus plus “Democrat” Heath Schuler.
Brachiator
Isn’t this in sync with current Catholic doctrine?
I don;t like Perry, and I certainly do not agree with him.
But clearly his views here share much in common with conservative theology of many faiths.
The Dangerman
you ho, you ho, a butt pirate’s life….
Xecky Gilchrist
gays should simply choose abstinence
“Simply choose” is one of those red flag phrases that lets you know you’re dealing with an ideologue – I usually hear it from libertarians explaining that if consumers are unhappy with a completely unregulated business, they will simply choose to vote with their dollars, etc.
BGinCHI
@Xecky Gilchrist: Yes, Republicans are pro-choice, as long as it’s a predetermined choice that fits a moralistic framework and there are no alternatives.
RandyH
@BGinCHI:
I really miss Molly Ivins.
Jay in Oregon
@dmsilev:
Are you channeling Jon Stewart? He says almost the same thing in this clip:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-17-2011/indecision-2012—elephant-stampede-to-the-white-house—the-media-turns-to-paul-ryan
RandyH
@Jay in Oregon:
Link leads to “Page not Found”
Makewi
This is totally different than Obama’s wink-nudge take on homosexuality. Totally different.
Because Obama is a Democrat.
Joel
@JGabriel: Look, I’m not a fucking buftie, and that’s the end of it!
scav
@BGinCHI:
Just as teh devout are always intent on taking away the free will over our actions that their god supposedly gave everyone.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Origuy:
We’ve had two little earthquakes in the San Francisco area in the last half-day. Does G-d make them proportional to the amount of homosexing going on? And, if so, does that mean we’re less gay (b/c much smaller quakes) than Mineral County, VA, or does it mean we’re twice as gay because we get more of them?
Or would that require Malkin Math to solve?
shortstop
Even if a person was born bone fucking stupid, he still makes the choice to advertise it to the entire world via a national political campaign.
I’m torn between thinking that Romney (shouldn’t but) will be a tougher opponent for Obama and not believing that this cartoon character from Texas — stop sending us your gubernatorial refuse! Please! We’re asking nicely! — is the leading candidate for a major party’s nominee for president of the United States of America.
Carnacki
@RandyH: Perry certainly knows how to handle a corn dog in a manly man way.
RandyH
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
That wasn’t an earthquake. No, just the boys homo-sexing downstairs. Boys will be boys.
RandyH
@shortstop:
Perry is Obama’s dream opponent. Romney, on the other hand, could give him a serious run for his money in a general election.
ed drone
@shortstop:
So, you’d recommend abstinence, would you? Can’t say as I’d disagree.
Ed
dmsilev
@Jay in Oregon: Heh. Not deliberately, but I did watch that clip a week or so ago, so maybe it just stuck in my subconscious.
Paul in KY
@dmsilev: Should have realized that. Nevermind ;-)
RandyH
@Carnacki:
Oh my. He really does know how to “Take it like a man” doesn’t he? That’s a foot-long dog, by the way.
shortstop
@RandyH: That’s what I just said. Perhaps unclearly, so let me try again:
1. Romney will be a much tougher opponent — the only one, in fact, who will give Obama a run.
2. Knowing #1 is true, I’m still appalled at the notion that Perry, who will not be competitive in a national election and thus would presumably be Dems’ preference as an opponent, has even made it to the running as a major-party nominee. This, even more than Palin, even more than Bachmann, speaks to the depth of our degradation. At some point this shit stopped being funny.
b-psycho
And unless the alcoholic insists on driving and causes a car accident or the gay person forces your head towards their crotch at gunpoint their choice has sweet fuck all to do with you. So leave them alone.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
So does this mean it’s alright to look while in the barracks’ shower as long as you don’t touch?
cat48
Mittens is being flattened by Goodhair in the PPPoll & Gallup, too. If Mittens has any charm or political gamesmanship, now would be the time to use it on old white people b/c they loves them some Perry!
RandyH
@shortstop: Yup.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Need a break from all this misery? It’s Safe to Dance!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Where ya bean frijole?
Tonybrown74
@RandyH:
Look, Ma! No teeth!
RandyH
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
Look all you want. Trust me – everyone else is. Everybody’s always “sizing up” the competition, whether they’ll ever admit it or not. Enjoy the view.
Hal
@RandyH:
Up to this point, Romney seems to me to be a very weak front runner, hence Perry’s sprinting ahead in the admittedly way too early polls. Plus, there’s still the unanswered Mormon question (will Evangelicals vote for a Mormon?), and Romney’s RHINO reputation among many conservatives.
All of which is to say, I’m not so sure he’s much of a candidate at all, and seems to be a media fixation more than an actual strong competitor. After his hideous “Corporations are people too, my friend” comment, he should be on his way to the dust bin.
Mark S.
@Makewi:
I’m sure you have plenty of links to Obama advocating abstinence for gay people.
Dennis SGMM
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Thanks, Raven. That old dude has some moves!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Dennis SGMM: And the kids are totally uninterested.
Hal
@cat48:
One other point this comment reminds me of; Romney’s strategy, if you can call it that, has been up to this point to lay low, largely based on the assumption he would be in competition with a bunch of lackluster candidates like Pawlenty, Newt, and Huntsman, or that he would be up against fire breathers like Palin, Bachmann and Santorum.
If your strongest move out of the gate is to lie low and hope everyone remembers you when the smoke clears, you can’t be that much of a competitor.
Jay in Oregon
@RandyH:
Blah. Too late to edit my post, try this: http://bit.ly/qkiBIJ
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Hal: But you can be a dumb-ass motherfucker.
RandyH
@Hal:
I agree with your points but John McCain’s campaign was dead at this point in the last round. And he struggled through. Then all Republicans fell in line behind him as they always do. He then gave Obama some serious competition for a while.
I think what may have killed McCain was his not knowing just how many homes he owns. Then he “suspended his campaign” and bailed on Letterman (big mistake – HUGE) to fix the economy…
Romney’s got a similar problem right now where he, as an “unemployed guy,” is bulldozing his 3,000 SqFt multi-million dollar California home to build an 11,000 SqFt multi-million dollar home in its place.
Dennis SGMM
If Obama can’t figure out how to goose the economy and get numbers of people back to work at least six months before the election then his ideal opponent will be a cheese sandwich. Granted, a Republican cheese sandwich would still get 40% of the vote but Obama should be able to convince the rest of the voters that he’d outperform the sandwich.
Violet
@Hal:
When all your other competitors are crazy people shooting at each other, the best decision may be to lie low and be able to stand up when the smoke clears. Not that that’s necessarily what Romney is doing, or that he’s not crazy, but it’s not always a bad strategy.
Makewi
@Mark S.:
So you’re saying that Obama is secretly gay? On the downlow as it were? Interesting.
Villago Delenda Est
@RandyH:
I don’t think the entire Letterman thing gets enough attention, after all, the Village just doesn’t want to acknowledge what that represented.
If McCain had been honest with Letterman (Katie Couric offered me an interview, and there’s a time conflict with you, I’ve got to go with Katie, sorry, can I take a rain check?) it would not have been the big deal it was.
Instead, McCain lied to Letterman, and then Letterman exposed the lie in real time and was able to mock McCain (“can I call you a cab to JFK, John?”) incessantly for doing so.
Millions saw this, and drew the conclusion that McCain is not just a liar, but a really stupid liar.
jibeaux
This analogy would seem to suggest that Rick Perry thinks it’s o.k. to be gay in moderation. Socially gay. Just stay in control of your gay.
Dollared
@RandyH: Perry will not make mistakes. He is very, very good at his role. And he will get the full whitewash from the national media.
Nothing prevents the MSM from declaring Obama Toast because of the economy, then trumpeting the Texas Miracle, then declaring that Perry wins the “have a beer with him” beauty contest. And that much whitewash and love could give him the winner halo by June.
It’s exactly how Reagan went from “crazy, dangerous right-winger,” to Our Next President, between March and July 1980.
Perry really does scare me much more than Mittens.
JGabriel
Irene. Crikey.
Those bright yellow areas in the linked map (GFS 60hr @ 2am Sunday night, 1280×1024) are literally off the chart; i.e. it’s at the top of the chart , which means there’s no telling how much higher above 9″ the rainfall will be.
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Uncle Clarence Thomas
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@Mark S.:
No, no, and no. You’re thinking of abstinence of getting gay married – Mr. Obama, who has in the past opposed same-sex marriage, has said his views are “evolving.” Totally different. Because President Obama is a Democrat, you see.
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RandyH
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yup. I think the quote was “Hey John, You need a ride to the airport?”
DFH no.6
@Makewi:
Yeah, because Obama’s take on homosexuality is objectively the same as Perry’s and, as with racism, it’s the Lieberals who are the real homophobes.
You really are a tiresomely dumb-as-fuck asshole-troll, aren’t you?
And here we were with a pleasantly-diverting and amusing little comment thread – from BGinCHI’s hilarious “…before you know it you got a dude’s dick in your mouth” to wenchacha’s Sun revolving around the earth to RandyH’s well-considered doubts that Perry could actually read, let alone write, “his” books and even to matoko-c’s OT segue shout-out to a truly excellent new band (Foster the People) – but then we get your shitstain stinking things up.
Why don’t you go away and play with the goobers at Redstate or somewhere whose worldview is as fucked-up as yours?
What the hell motivates smug-asshole rightwing trolls to be trolls? Never mind – I don’t really want to know what makes rightwingers brains squirm like toads. But squirm they most certainly do.
JGabriel
@Uncle Clarence Thomas:
Actually, it’s totally different because, unlike Perry, Obama believes in evolution.
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Makewi
@DFH no.6:
Oh, you poor baby. Did I totally interrupt all the jokes where the punchline amounts to “he’s gay”. That shit is funny right there.
Chyron HR
@Uncle Clarence Thomas:
Remember, kids, you can’t be a true progressive unless you agree with everything that right-wing trolls say. Now say 50 Hail Hamshers and pray for forgiveness, you Obotomized Obots.
RandyH
@Dollared:
Good points. But will it work? The media tried to make 2008 about Rudy! and Hillary! FAIL. FAIL. FAIL.
And whose stomach doesn’t turn from George Dubya Bush indigestion whenever they hear Perry speak? Really. I need some Prilosec quick.
rikryah
and this book, is what 3 years old?
but, I guess it’s ok to disavow what you put your name to only 9 months ago…..3 years ago…..
if you’re a White Republican.
Violet
@JGabriel:
I hope people in NYC, Long Island, NJ along the coast, etc. are paying attention. The last model runs have shifted west somewhat and Irene seems to have slowed down a tad while she undergoes eyewall replacement. None of that is good news for those areas. If the current EURO model verifies, it could be an utter disaster for those areas. The region hasn’t had a strong hurricane in decades. Obviously it’s still days out, but it could be an ugly weekend.
wrb
@Violet:
Or Conn, RI, Mass, & Maine, which are in the center of NOAA’s latest probability cone. NC gets brushed too
Samara Morgan
dont be bored DougJ.
here you can read some good stuff in the new wikileaks data dump.
heres something good.
heres something glenn greenwald found
send any finds to #wlfind
its a treasure hunt!
Spaghetti Lee
@Makewi:
And your point was what, again? Oh yeah: “Obama = secret gay! LOL!”
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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@Chyron HR:
Your lying misrepresentations do not result simply from a lack of brainpower, poltroon. Please do not have your organ grinder leave you alone again.
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gocart mozart
I give Perry the benefit of the doubt. He probably hadn’t read to that chapter in his book yet. how was he supposed to know what was in it?
Violet
@wrb:
Yeah, it definitely goes as far north as Maine, but by then the water is colder and the interaction with land should lessen Irene’s intensity a bit. No guarantees, though. Things could be bad in Cape Cod, RI, etc.
The models shifted eastward enough last night that NC looks a little safer than it did, but people living anywhere that is still in the NHC cone need to be paying attention and plan accordingly.
New England does get hit by hurricanes but it has been decades since the last time a big one hit. I don’t think most people have any idea how bad it can be.
Stooleo
I apologize in advance, but FDL is selling Firebagger T shirts. What the hell happened over there?
The Main Gauche of Mild Reason
@dmsilev:
It’s actually well established that Churchill never made the “Rum, sodomy, and the lash” quip about naval tradition (he apparently denied it at some point). It’s probably an apocryphal variant on the old saying that sailors are “wine women and song” onshore and “rum, bum, and concertina” at sea.
Samara Morgan
INCOMING!
wikileaks WikiLeaks
Stay tuned for an important announcement.
5 minutes ago
JGabriel
@Violet:
Well, I’m a New Yorker and I’m paying attention. I’m sure I’m not the only one, though there’s really not much any of us can do except sit it out, or decide to get out of the city for the weekend.
I’m keeping an eye on it in case it gets dire enough to consider visiting Pennsyltucky before Christmas — i.e., pretty fucking dire.
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Violet
@Stooleo:
What the hell. And they’re basically charging $20 for the shirts. It says on the front page:
But if you click the “Join us” button, you get options for:
What the hell is a Gosprey Circle? Anyway, according to those levels, you don’t get the t-shirt unless you join at the Benefactors level. But wait! There’s a special link where you can get the t-shirt for $65, but you only get the Friends membership level. That means they’re charging $20 for their stupid Firebagger t-shirt.
chopper
@JGabriel:
as a new yorker, i’m watching irene like crazy. unfortunately the new model runs are predicting west movement of the highs in bermuda and texas, and thus a westerly track for irene. a few of the high-value models are calling for her to hit long island as a decent CAT 2. with the pressure of a CAT 3, and probably a big-ass surge.
certainly my weekend vacay in cape may is off, now i have to plan for bugging out sometime friday.
Violet
@JGabriel:
Well you can stock up on water and food. Things could get pretty ugly in NYC if the city flooded badly and the power was out for an extended period.
scav
Query. I’ve forgotten my favored Hurricane sites — well, other than Jeff Masters at Wunderground. Which are you lot going to? Thanks.
Violet
@chopper:
That would be the nightmare scenario. I really hope it doesn’t happen. I’ve seen the models you’re talking about…
RandyH
@Stooleo:
There’s money to be made… Jane’s no fool. But she knows her readers are.
Tom Q
@Hal: This is why my point of comparison for Romney has always been Ed Muskie. The argument for Muskie was, Well, nobody DISlikes him. Came time to vote, turned out not enough people LIKED him, either.
wrb
Speaking of Churchill , will Irene be Obama’s Coventry?
Based on secret intelligence that he concealed from the regular Americans in her path, he fled Washington ahead of the storm.
Makewi
@Spaghetti Lee:
That wasn’t my point. My point is that Obama is a horrible, terrible, no good president. Good thing he’ll be gone soon.
JGabriel
@chopper: Which models are those? I’ve been watching the GFS. The NAM doesn’t see that far in advance. I haven’t checked the Euro or anything else yet, mainly because I like the java loop models NOAA provides.
Frankly, the GFS is bad enough.
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Stefan
If your strongest move out of the gate is to lie low and hope everyone remembers you when the smoke clears, you can’t be that much of a competitor.
Oh, I don’t know. It works for me in the bars at closing time.
Dennis SGMM
@chopper:
Oh, shit. I wish you the best. Losing power for an extended period is bad anywhere. In a densely populated area it would be a nightmare. Considering that NYC isn’t exactly rich in areas for the water to soak in, even the rain that’s dumped when a good-sized hurricane comes ashore could create hazards.
Tom Hilton
What I hear, Perry keeps falling off the straight wagon…
Dennis SGMM
@Tom Hilton:
Perry was just reinflating that dude.
wrb
@scav:
This site aggregates most everything and has some good original content
http://flhurricane.com/
shortstop
@scav: “Favorite hurricane sites”? Aren’t you my neighbor? We haven’t had one on Lake Michigan for, like, decades.
RandyH
@Makewi:
Don’t count on it. He’ll likely be around another 4 years, regardless of what you think of him because there is no SANE opponent out there who could possibly become the Republican nominee.
Yutsano
UCT just made a veiled racist comment. Ratfuckers gotta ratfuck I guess.
RandyH
@Dennis SGMM:
LOL. Too funny. Don’t you love being re-inflated?
JGabriel
@Dennis SGMM:
Whadday mean? We have the FDR Drive. All the water goes there whenever we have a rainstorm.
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Svensker
@Violet:
Hub and the kid just went back to NJ/NY for a quick visit through the weekend. Ugh. I hate worrying, especially when I’m not there to use my superpowers to protect everyone.
Fingers crossed for all.
scav
@shortstop: Well, it’s not a batten-down the personal hatches type interest, I just like big storms and stalking them digitally. Seeing one blow up on Lake Mich would be rather a shock.
JPL
@Violet: Well I have a wonderful calendar and coasters thanks to Balloon Juice. Yeah I know we only help rescue animals but still that’s important.
Are we doing another calendar?
edit..just in case someone doesn’t realize I’m teasing ..I think what John is doing for rescues is great. I’d gladly send in a few dollars for him but that’s not what he wants.
shortstop
@scav: Uh huh, I suspected you were a violent-weather junkie. Living with one for lo, these 20 years, I can spot y’all a mile off!
Midnight Marauder
@Makewi:
I remember when you at least tried in your attempts at tomfuckery. This shit right here is just abysmal.
scav
@shortstop: Well, I don’t do sports and there’s all the techie modelling detail, massive datasets and geography to go with the other big wave blowy things down stuff. I’ve got the usgs earthquakes site practically memorized as well.
ETA: FInk, I really wish I could remember that site I had that explicitly compared all the hurricane model tracks on the same map.
aimai
@danimal:
Yeah, I know they oppose dancing but they’ve never yet proposed a federal law against it.
aimai
boss bitch
say what? Oy!
Jay C
@shortstop:
“Violent-weather junkie?” Heh. I guess once the hurricane strikes – somewhere – and it gets into your body (or computer) – you can’t help but make that choice to glue yourself to the Weather Channel (as long as the satellite signal holds up)….
Anyway, we’re way up here in the Scenic Berkshires, so most of the bad forecasts for Sunday top out (or have done so far) as “heavy rain and wind” – not much of an Apocalypse, given the, what, a week’s notice? But still: best to stock up on the basics (cat food, rum and DVDs) just in case. Though frankly, the City would probably be a better choice: Gotham’s infrastructure is pretty damn sturdy, and one can always get take-out Chinese come Hell or (as likely) high water.
boatboy_srq
@dmsilev:
I SO did not need that visual just now.
*reaches for the brain bleach.
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Seriously, though, given how fond Perry is of The Lash – or at least lethal injections – it’s surprising how opposed he is to the rest of that little litany. Makes you wonder how much of a drinking sodomite he might be under all that hair.
Isn’t there a campaign on right now to find the men/boys he’s had while in Austin? Maybe we should be looking at the bars and liquor stores he’s frequented as well.
Makewi
@RandyH:
We only need someone who can balance a checkbook – seeing as that is a job too difficult for the current spender-in-chief.
aimai
@Makewi:
Look, Makewi–what’s your position on homosexuality? That’s the question. Obama’s is that he is probably opposed to it on religious grounds, but increasingly feels that the federal government should be neutral and get out of the legislating other people’s sex biz. Perry’s is the opposite: he is opposed to the federal government legislating all kinds of things, but for personal religious reasons he is sure that an exception should be made for gayness and gays should a) abstain and b) be prevented from forming life long partnerships by government action. Those are two completely different points of view on homosexuality, gay sex, and the state. They couldn’t be more opposed to one another.
If your point is that Perry is “no worse” than Obama you are flat out wrong. But if that is your point–ok then, which of those two positions most accurately reflects your own?
aimai
shortstop
@Jay C: I ought to clarify that my violent-weather junkie assuredly does not take pleasure in or make light of others’ wind- and precipitation-related misfortune. Like scav, he’s just fascinated by the technical and statistical stuff.
Makewi
@Midnight Marauder:
Perhaps, but not as abysmal as pretending you can spend your way out of debt. Or that you can be pro gay rights while at the same time using gay as a slur. Or pretending that the process of reconciliation between the biblical notion of homosexual sex as sin and loving your neighbor as yourself is something that is mock worthy.
Violet
@Jay C:
Weather Channel is lame. Real weather junkies usually go elsewhere for their info, although the tropical update when they do go to the NHC can be somewhat informative.
Mark S.
@aimai:
Admirable, but I think you’d be better off asking those questions to your dining room table. The table will give a much more intelligent and nuanced response than whatever makewi is about to vomit forth.
Makewi
@aimai:
I’m going to want a cite on that.
scav
@aimai: Makewii doesn’t have a position other than Obama and the rest of us are evil and wrong and dull and polka-dotted and don’t properly admire his trollfu and innate superiority. It can be distinguished from derf in that it whines less about what John fails to post and from loca_chan by the absence of cud and wikileaks: Makewii leaks wee, it’s on the tin. We really could work up a field guide to trolls with defining characteristics by now.
aimai
You want a cite for the fact that the entire Republican line up is pro DOMA, DADT, and opposed in every way to the legalization of gay marriage? That’s like asking for a cite to the fact that the sun rises in the east. Mark S. was right–you have less intellect, and far less moral integrity, than the average cut price dining room set.
Oh, forgot to say “fuck off and die” especially for that craptacular piece of amoral reasoning about “love thy neighbor as thyself.” Its not mockworthy and no one but Christians makes any kind of mockery of it. Consider yourself mocked for trying to equate your party’s rampant homophobia with Christian love.
aimai
'Niques
Regarding Irene … I’m in Florida, and usually go to weatherchannel dot com for satellites and updates.
TenguPhule
Makewi
@aimai:
You could have just said I don’t have a cite, but I choose to believe it because of the caricature of conservatives that I cling to like my life depends on it. But instead you decided to pretend that your very existence entitles you to some moral high ground. Hero.
Mark S.
@Makewi:
Here ya go:
As always, the real victims are the states full of homophobes.
TenguPhule
This would be Perry’s “Amendment banning Gay Marriage” which everyone knows about unless they’ve been braindead for the last three months……oh right, its piss boy.
gwangung
Given that this has actually happened in reality, I would say “abysmal” is not the right term to use.
Try harder. Original thought works better than knee-jerk thinking. You’re being a lazy-ass twit. Again.
Makewi
@Mark S.:
He’s also said it’s a state’s rights issue and that New York’s decision to allow gay marriage was “fine with me”. So I guess his position is “evolving”.
Villago Delenda Est
@Makewi:
Well, given that he was handed gazillions in debt by his spendthrift, warmongering, deserting predecessor, who intentionally cut revenues in order to pay off his cronies, I’d say he’s not doing that bad.
Makewi
@gwangung:
Sure it has champ, sure it has.
Makewi
@Villago Delenda Est:
I know you would say that. But you don’t exactly have a firm grip on reality and your views aren’t exactly mainstream. I do appreciate your, and Obama’s, insistence on the “It’s not my fault” school of leadership and your absolute refusal to understand that spending has skyrocketed under Obama. It’s gotten so bad in fact that attempts to compare this level of spending with that under Bush, even with the wars, just marks you as a no nothing dead-ender.
Jay C
@shortstop:
Dude(or Dudette): no intent to insinuate anything untoward in the VWJ attraction: like you, I’m more fascinated by the technological advances that let us contemplate and prepare for these weather events so far in advance (Jeez, it’s only Wednesday, and we get a heads-up about possible “hurricane effects on Sunday”??) – vs. the, what, two days vague cautions for the Great Hurricane of 1938 , or the 19th-Century storms that (AFA the locals were concerned) sprang out of nowhere on a few hours – via plummeting barometer – warning?
And Another Thing...
@Makewi: cite on DOMA
ETA answered by others upthread
RandyH
@Makewi:
You mean Orange-Julep? Mr. Boner is responsible for the congressional body who authorizes spending. Ask him about it. Maybe we should fire him. I suspect the “American People,” he’s so proud of speaking on behalf of, WILL do that come election day 2012… because he has no idea who he thinks he’s speaking for.
Go away, Troll.
Makewi
OK, Bye
shortstop
@Violet: True, but let’s not write off the pleasure potential of seeing that Jim Cantore idiot standing around getting seriously rained, hailed and otherwise blown on.
RandyH
@Makewi:
Don’t let the door hit ya… or something like that.
Villago Delenda Est
@Makewi:
You are a cretin.
Lojasmo
@Brachiator:
Nobody said conservative theologies of many faiths are not as full of shit as perry ks
licensed to kill time
your wank was weak today, wiimaker
chopper
@JGabriel:
GFS and GFDL both are shooting for a mid-LI hit. the HWRF is IIRC calling it landing on the eastern end. NOGAPS is a joke half the time.
chopper
@Dennis SGMM:
also, we’ve gotten like 10 inches of rain in the last two weeks, so the soil is as moist as it’s ever been.
Brachiator
@Lojasmo:
Damn, people are thick headed. Perry’s views here may be close to what is moderate mainstream conservative religious thought. You can dismiss and mock it all you want, and here I agree with you.
But if you look at it from the point of view of numbers, and cold hard political analysis, Perry is not only appealing to a broad range of conservatives, but he is also separating himself from the most obnoxious of the “The Deity hates f^gs” crowd.
niknik
@Makewi:
And say hello to the pie filter, douche-nozzle!
Is it so much to ask for a better quality of troll? Dissenting opinion is really only interesting if it’s grounded in reality.