Apparently there is a debate going on. Watch at your own peril.
I’m having a vodka tonic and watching season 1 of No Reservations, back when he was a real dick and made me laugh (“the day isn’t a total loss, we might run over Richard Gere on the way home”).
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Where ya bean frijole?
Elizabelle
I wonder if there will be any laughing at the death penalty today.
Wondering if it took a terminal hit yesterday, although it will take time to eliminate it completely.
russ
Mitt just told me I’m getting a pony, he’s got my vote!!!
Calouste
Succint commentary by the Guardian as usual:
MikeJ
Anthony Bourdain is on now? Food Feuds is on that channel now here, and I have no idea what that is.
beltane
@Elizabelle: It certainly did not take a terminal hit among the crowd assembled at this debate. Knowing wingnuts, if the death penalty is mentioned they’ll cheer even louder than they did the last time.
dmsilev
Is it just my connection, or is this debate literally being held in an echo chamber? Turn down the reverb!
licensed to kill time
I’m not actually watching it, just following here and at Think Progress’s live blog.
I’m sure the lying and obfuscation has commenced.
Elizabelle
Republican debate.
Meh.
I’d rather think about sea otters.
Or cassoulet.
JPL
Should we put out an Amber alert for Doug? He was suppose to live blog and obviously he’s been kidnapped.
Linda Featheringill
I usually watch the Republican debates with the sound muted so I don’t have to listen to their lies. This time, however, Rick Perry was talking before I got the sound turned down. It was like being in a time machine. He sounded so much like Bush did about 15 years ago.
Baud
FTFY
shortstop
@Elizabelle: Not together? In one dish?!
Elizabelle
@beltane:
Where are these weasels debating? Who is moderating?
Echo chamber. How perfect. What’s Huntsman doing?
Roger Moore
@Elizabelle:
I doubt it. If you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs; if you want to put people to death you’re going to wind up killing a few innocents. The true death penalty believers aren’t going to be convinced there’s anything wrong with it just because some poor innocent guy was executed.
dmsilev
@JPL: I think he’s laying on Cole’s living room floor, shedding furiously.
Elizabelle
@shortstop:
Nada. Sea otters in the wild, snacking on abalone.
Cassoulet as something delicious for fall, but not in 90 degree rooms.
Vote Obama for Otters
2012
licensed to kill time
9:08: Bachmann calls for absolutely no taxes. āYou should be able to keep every dollar that you earn.ā Then contradicts herself, āobviously we have to give money back to the government to run the government.ā
This woman is so……D’oh! She’s on the Vapidity Express.
shortstop
@Elizabelle: Whew.
dmsilev
Also, what’s with the lighting and/or makeup? With the exception of Herman Cain, all of the candidates are more orange than John Boehner.
Loneoak
Kinda surprised it’s co-sponsored by Google. I thought the wingnuts were boycotting Google because Muslims use it.
Samara Morgan
its better on twitter.
@Roger Moore: the troydavis march has just merged with anonops occupy wallstreet.
streaming video
Baud
I wonder if any of them will get a question about the Chinese military.
Cat Lady
No Red Sox FAIL on tonight, so may as well watch GOP FAIL. I just saw Contagion today, and it feels like the GOP is the virus right before the vaccine is developed. The question is whether there’s a vaccine.
Elizabelle
@Baud:
That’s great.
DougJ does seem missing in action.
handy
@licensed to kill time:
She’s talking about every dollar after money spent on bombs and stuff for all of baby Jeebus’s wars on brown people. Oh, and congresscritter and presidental salaries. Gotta account for those too.
Though I suppose in both cases she could have just said, “wip out the credit card” ala Dubya, but then that would have been too honest.
Omnes Omnibus
@licensed to kill time: What’s more, she is purportedly a trained tax attorney.
dmsilev
@Loneoak: I’m disappointed that the first question to Santorum wasn’t “Since this debate is sponsored by Google, would you mind googling your own name?”
Samara Morgan
the three headed dog of AllahP/Brietbart/Malkin is throwing crazy eyes bachman under the bus.
allahpundit Allah Pundit
RT @ExJon: Debate prediction: Gary Johnson will come out for the recreational use of Gardasil.
21 minutes ago
allahpundit Allah Pundit
RT @robertcostaNRO: My Huntsman hope: he cites Mother Love Bone. youtube.com/watch?v=lH0gnwā¦
26 minutes ago
allahpundit Allah Pundit
Bachmann: I’m a “Teavangelical” twurl.nl/scrvfm
31 minutes ago
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Loneoak: Bet Santorum is thrilled.
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: /yawn.
handy
@handy:
folks this is why I am here to help you through the “apparent” contradictions in Gooper thinking.
licensed to kill time
@handy: Well, priorities ya know. She haz ’em!
@Omnes Omnibus: I heard those rumors.
russ
Taxes. They are the solution. Just less of them.
9:20 has a “Survivor” feel to it.
Samara Morgan
Six Americans arrested and jailed for protesting.
dmsilev
Is Perry referring to himself using the royal we?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Mitt callin Perry flip flopper
Linnaeus
@Roger Moore:
Agreed. I’ve been talking with acquaintances of mine who favor capital punishment, and while most of them are also genuinely troubled by the notion of an innocent person being executed, some (more than I thought) consider the risk that an innocent person will be executed an acceptable one. As long as we get more bad guys than good, it’s not really a problem.
dmsilev
Now Perry and Romney are arguing about different editions of their respective books. “But the paperback edition doesn’t have that line”.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Linnaeus: It’s the underlying rationale for Afghanistan.
beltane
Even the Wonkette commentators can’t manage to make this showcase of human degeneracy amusing. It would be more fun if Sarah Palin were there.
Omnes Omnibus
@dmsilev: Yeah, but the limited edition UK import 12″ single did.
dmsilev
30 minutes to the first Reagan reference. They’re slipping.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Ignoring Newt
Samara Morgan
@Omnes Omnibus: yeah, anonops is not relly relevent for old white ppl.
:)
i think the juxtaposition is hilarious. Bachman and the teavangelicals “debating” while people in the aptly named Liberty Plaza are gettin beat up by the NYPD while protesting Troy Davis’ execution and the souless rapacious bankstahs.
my country tis of thee, L-O-fucking-L.
MikeJ
@beltane: Rumproast is good: “This is like Alex Jones. You can say the craziest shit you can think of, and get a round of applause.”
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@JPL: I’m beginning to get worried as well.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Oh Newt is soooo tough.
licensed to kill time
@dmsilev: I heard if you read the book backwards the line is still there.
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: Dumbass, look at what my “/yawn” linked to.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Omnes Omnibus: What?
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Simple attack of good sense. It happens to the best of us.
Meredith
The only way I would watch this is if Ricky Gervais was moderating.
dmsilev
I know Ron Paul is supposedly the crazy one, but it’s pretty hard to tell the difference between him and the rest of the clown show. Different accents, I suppose.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: “Purportedly” being the operative term in that statement. I suspect that collections drone is a more accurate description of that period of her career, the majority of which, I read, was spent on maternity leave. Heh.
Omnes Omnibus
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): m_c is willfully misinterpreting things again. No surprises.
suzanne
I’m watching the debate on my DVR, so I’m a bit behind (surprise), but did Mitt Romney just accuse Rick Perry of flip-flopping? Holy shit.
different church-lady
Who is pubads.g.doubleclick.net and why has the loading of Balloon Juice been hanging for the past 48 hours because of them?
dmsilev
@suzanne: You have to admit, Romney is an expert in the field of changing ones views.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Omnes Omnibus: I just didn’t see a link.
Roger Moore
@Linnaeus:
I think that it really boils down to something that I brought up in the Class Warfare thread earlier. Liberals are most worried about protecting the needy while Conservatives are most worried about punishing people who have gotten away with something. Liberals are willing to support welfare cheats as an acceptable cost of helping the many poor people who depend on it, while Conservatives are willing to hurt the many poor people who depend on welfare to prevent the few cheats from taking advantage.
When it comes to criminal justice, you see the same pattern. Liberals are most worried about protecting the innocent by providing comprehensive protections for the accused and are willing to end the death penalty to protect the wrongfully convicted. Conservatives are most interested in punishing the guilty, so they want long sentences, capital punishment, and fewer procedural protections, even if it means innocent people will be executed. Conservatives are genuinely more worried that a murderer might escape justice than they are that an innocent man might be executed.
Samara Morgan
truthsay, lol.
allahpundit Allah Pundit
RT @andylevy: Oh God one of these people is gonna be the GOP nominee. #tweetthepress
2 minutes ago
Omnes Omnibus
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Oh, I meant replied, not linked. My bad.
ETA: I was mocking her rightwing pundit quotes and she chose to see it as mocking the anonops dudes.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: But I never expected it to happen to Doug J, of all people!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Omnes Omnibus: Whew!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): He was under fire for no Troy Davis thread, maybe he’s gun shy.
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Feet of clay, my dear, feet of clay.
Samara Morgan
@Omnes Omnibus: there has been no BJ thread, and no mention of either #occupywallstreet or #riptroydavis.
the two marches just merged.
Cacti
Mitt Romney would be a shoe-in, but for the fact that most people don’t like him.
JPL
who is winning???
Frankensteinbeck
@Roger Moore:
Yes. I believe you are one hundred percent correct there. It goes to foreign policy as well, where liberals fall along the range of ‘Do we really NEED to to use force?’ while conservatives fall along the range of ‘Are you looking at me funny?’ What is the common thread, do you think?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Four DIE CENTING votes.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Samara Morgan: sammy
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: Actually, it was was mentioned on previous threads, including the merger.
licensed to kill time
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): That had to be Crazy Eyes, right?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@licensed to kill time: Ricky
JPL
So according to the debate pollution is good and education is bad? I did try to stream but the echo effect drove me nuts… Okay it wasn’t the echo, it was the candidates.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Bubble headed bleach blonde talking about google search. . . . Senator Santorum?
Wee Bey
My sources tell me Newtmentum is up 347 percent. Also, too, DougJ is still missing?
grandpajohn
@Linnaeus: Did you ask them if they would feel the same if they were the innocent person being executed?
Short Bus Bully
@Frankensteinbeck:
Being a sociopath?
Samara Morgan
@Omnes Omnibus: link or it didnt happen.
the merge happened like 20 minnits ago.
licensed to kill time
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I’m not watching, but I read it as Bachmann’s Uninent Choots-pah Hoot-Smalley accent.
Linnaeus
@Roger Moore:
I think that’s a very plausible explanation. It’s all about someone else “getting theirs”, unless of course, it’s the conservative “getting his”. Then it’s, “hey, let’s not rush to judgement here!”
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Frankensteinbeck: Fear and loathing.
different church-lady
@JPL:
Tampa Bay. Really big.
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: Fuck it, maybe you mentioned the merger. Now shut up.
Jenny
Peggy Noonan (the Widow Reagan) called Parry, “cheap, base-playing buffoon”.
It’s so funny watching them bite and kick each other.
Cris (without an H)
Charlie Sheen
Chris
@Cacti:
Almost feel bad for the guy, he just wants SO BADLY! to be president.
lamh34
woops.
just finished watching x-factor. what did i miss?
Samara Morgan
@Omnes Omnibus: make meh.
just like Tehran and the Greens!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Victory in Iraq!
Loneoak
I’d give my left nut just hear someone say frothy mix.
ETA: Man, the autocorrect in the new MacOS is pretty bossy.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Samara Morgan: sammy, we hardly knew ya
suzanne
Mr. Poo/Lube is under the impression that undocumented immigrant children are loaded. Awesome.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re a hoper, aren’t you? Bonus points to anyone who gets the theatrical reference there.
gogol's wife
@Jenny:
What does “base-playing” mean? Oh, I just got it, he’s playing to the base. I thought you meant he was a bass player, the first halfway decent thing I’ve heard about him.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Newt liked the moron question.
Jenny
@Chris:
It’s a daddy thing. He’s trying to even the score for his father’s disastrous 1968 run.
ruemara
So glad I’m just running with the group, downing Cho’gall.
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: Just like Wisconsin… There is even a place taking worldwide orders for pizza.
Jenny
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
That’s so 2003.
gogol's wife
I shouldn’t ask this, but what is m_c on about and what does it have to do with the Republican debate?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Jenny: no it’s so jejune!
Omnes Omnibus
@gogol’s wife: Demonstrations in lower Manhattan. She suspects that the Arab Spring is here.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@gogol’s wife: She’s just here to keep everyone on their toes.
Elizabelle
A dog was saved from a crevasse in a boulder today, near San Diego.
Salad oil did the trick.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/dog-boulder-rescue-alpine-san-diego-county.html
Firefighters suggest naming the pup “Lucky” or “Rocky.”
Why not “Wesson?”
(cute dog.)
gogol's wife
DougJ’s live blog is now up.
Short Bus Bully
@Chris:
I hear ya. I always die a little inside when I see the rich having to struggle with achieving their heart’s desire…
Samara Morgan
Cole just caved.
he is tweeting.
chrome agnomen
@Frankensteinbeck:
the common thread is FEAR.
Elizabelle
Oh, we were supposed to talk about the debate.
But the dog was more appealing.
Andrew Sullivan has a pic of the debate audience up on his blog.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/live-blogging-the-google-fox-gop-debate.html
Looks like a bunch of white people with costumed movie extras in the front seats.
Chris
@Jenny:
Hey, I remember the last time we had a president with daddy issues.
Good Lord, is EVERYONE trying to be The New Bush?
wilfred
“Who the hell is prepping this guy?!”
Douglas Feith, Cole. Has been for months.
Omnes Omnibus
@wilfred: For a second there, I read that as Doug E. Fresh.
Short Bus Bully
@chrome agnomen:
Yes, you’re right.
Can we just tell them to stop being such scaredy little bitches all the time?
Anne Laurie
@gogol’s wife:
Two separate groups of
her fellow trustafariansearnest young hipsters have merged their joint protests in downtown NYC. The NYPD are demonstrating the VILINCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM, as will happen. Since this indicates, in chanese, that Amerikkka is now witnessing its very own Jasmine Revolution, why why why have the running dogs of the BJ collective failed to dedicate the front page to live-streaming? ! ? Or at least changed the color of the blog’s backdrop to indicate where we stand?It’s got sweet-fvck-all to do with the Republican debate, but then, m_c’s not gonna waste her beautiful mind on mere WEC politics…
Samara Morgan
Could this be why wallstreet lost like a thousand points this week?
have there been any questions about jobs yet?
birthmarker
@Elizabelle: I actually hurt for these people.
Samara Morgan
@Anne Laurie: sorry JAFI queen, but its relevent. AllahP said so.
wanna take a few shots at us poor oppressed “shariah-ridden” muslimahs and our harem culture again?
scav
Give her credit though: loca_chinwag’s giving an entire combined debating team’s worth of republicans a stiff run in the idiocy stakes. Universe might not be able to take the strain, but it’s certainly a sight.
Omnes Omnibus
@Samara Morgan: And Allah Pundit is relevant, why?
Short Bus Bully
@birthmarker:
Not as bad as they typically hurt other people. See: Penalty, Death.
Frankensteinbeck
@Samara Morgan:
No. It couldn’t be. Seriously, not in snark, no. It couldn’t be. Protests are not uncommon in the US. Every time the WTO meets you get a mess dwarfing this. Investors do not care two rubs of a penny over these protests and they are not affecting stock prices. Wall Street doesn’t care, and there’s no reason for them to care. Whether or not the actual government itself is moving towards greater regulation or taxes is important to them. Europe’s financial problems are important to them. A street protest is not important to them.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re bored again, aren’t you?
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Sorry.
ETA: I’ll be good.
Samara Morgan
AllahP twittering Conservative Thunderdrome is even funnier than Cole.
cmorenc
@Roger Moore:
A key part of the conservative mindset is dividing society into the circle of blessed and deserving folks like themselves and the circle of dammed and undeserving “others”. As a member of the “deserving” citizenry, most of them genuinely cannot imagine themselves as ever potentially being the subject of the criminal justice system as the unfairly accused rather than being among the unfairly victimized it is supposed to protect. They are worthy citizens of society, and the kind of folks subjected to the criminal justice system are unworthy predators and low-lifes. They utterly fail to see how a just society requires sharing any common interests with the latter, as opposed to removing as many of them as expeditiously as possible from circulation.
Samara Morgan
@Omnes Omnibus: because Cole isnt twittering.
je m’amuse
Frankensteinbeck
@cmorenc:
An inability to empathize in the old fashioned sense? They just can’t place themselves there? When ‘There but for the grace of God go I’ is said, they hear ‘I’m God’s favorite!’ rather than ‘That could have been me’? It would go well with all their other IGMFY policies. But the argument about fear is persuasive, too.
chrome agnomen
@cmorenc:
and if perchance any of these deserving citizens are accused, they are immediately rebranded as undeserving. this ultimately results in solitary units of ‘deservedness. “i suspect everyone but me and thee, and i’m not too sure about thee.” a lonely, fear-ridden, paranoiac existence.
Omnes Omnibus
@chrome agnomen: Maggie said there is no such thing as society.
suzanne
@Samara Morgan:
You should take up masturbation.
Short Bus Bully
@chrome agnomen:
Not true. Watch what happens when one of their kids gets arrested for anything.
Texas Dem
Romney ran rings around Perry tonight. I think it’s going to be increasingly difficult for the party to ignore the fact that Perry is simply not ready for prime time, at least insofar as running for president is concerned. Perry should have been better prepared, given how much was riding on his performance tonight. Yet his attack lines fell flat, and at times he seemed incoherent. Almost like he took a sleeping pill this afternoon and it never quite wore off. Then again, maybe Perry just isn’t capable of much more. Perhaps that’s why he went out of his way to avoid debating opponents when he was running for reelection in Texas.
Anne Laurie
@Texas Dem:
During the short clip played on the local late-night newscast, Perry seemed to be nodding his head too much, and holding his shoulders very stiff — he looked odd, even standing next to Willard Romney, who’s a longterm denizen of the Uncanny Valley. I’m beginning to believe the rumor that Perry’s not fully recovered from his back surgery, and the pain pills aren’t making him any more coherent. (He seems to be fine in the clips I’ve seen of grip’n’grins and such, but not in the evenings, at least when it’s an event that he can’t duck out of, like tonight.)
Bago
@different church-lady: Doubleclick.net is an Internet advertising company that was bought by google roughly two years ago. Through their market segments and tracking cookies (because the ad spans or divs are served from the Doubleclick domain) are used to target advertising towards you based on your browsing history.
Now, because of the timeout you are seeing, I would suspect that google is attempting to do some sort of domain/geoip based targeting, and, using that to leverage the content delivery network(local caches) to get you the closest copy of the ad. But, the dns resolution is failing. The browser is blocking on that content, meaning it is not rendering the full Dom because it isnwaiting for the content to download to define the Dom.
schlemizel - was Alwhite
I know its late to the thread but I just read that the crowd boo’ed an active duty military member last night. Any of you souls brave enough to sit through the shit fest able to detail what actually happened?