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Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

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How stupid are these people?

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So apparently, when Obama was a young boy, someone fed him dog meat in Indonesia.

Which, according to wingnuts, is exactly the same thing as a grown man making the decision to strap his dog to the roof of the car and terrorize it on a cross country trip.

SUCK ON THAT LIBERALS! And of course the WH press corpse is on the job mainstreaming this bullshit.

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  3. 3.

    Beth in VA

    So living in a country so poor you’re given dog meat to eat (as a child, when you don’t exactly pick the menu) is equivalent to the millionaire dad deciding to carry the family pet on top of the car in a crate? Hardly.

    Whatever. It’s a stupid argument, but focusing on the dog isn’t the way to win the election either, imho.

  4. 4.

    EvolutionaryDesign

    the WH press corpse is on the job mainstreaming this bullshit.

    ..and Jake Tapper, also, too, for that matter. Hey Jake FUCK YOU, YOU TRIVIAL UNINFORMED CORN KERNEL IN THE EXCREMENT OF SOMEONE SLIGHTLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU.

    ETA – ya beat me to it Punchy

  5. 5.

    JGabriel

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    John Cole @ Top:

    So apparently, when Obama was a young boy, someone fed him dog meat in Indonesia. … SUCK ON THAT LIBERALS! And of course the WH press corpse is on the job mainstreaming this bullshit.

    And yet no one ever mainstreamed the stories of President Fuckwit torturing animals (sorry, can’t remember if it was dogs or cats) with fireworks* when he was kid.

    Tell me again about our liberal media.

    *Edited to Add: By torturing, I mean sticking the fireworks in various animal orifices, not just randomly scaring them with loud bands — in case that wasn’t clear.

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  9. 9.

    gocart mozart

    Fifteen years ago in Bali, Indonesia, at the base of Mount Agung (rural area) I’m pretty sure I ate some dog meat.* Of course, I ordered chicken & rice but that was no chicken! It was tough and gamey and definately some type of mammel. There were also many stray dogs running around. I suppose it could have been oxen or monkey which would have been worse but my best guess is dog.

    *The cook insisted it was chicken which was bullshit. I only had two bites. I gave a piece to a stray dog (How bad is that?)

    **Reposted from dead thread because now it on topic.

  10. 10.

    beltane

    @Kirbster: It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that we’ve all ingested meat of unknown origin at one time in our life. However, I’m not getting the wingnut “logic” here. People are upset with Mitt Romney for abusing his dog. They would also be upset with him if he abused a pet lamb although there is no taboo against eating lamb. As Cole said, I don’t see how an adult torturing an animal equates with a child eating a meal that he is served.

  12. 12.

    WWStBreitbartD

    So apparently, when Obama was a young boy, someone fed him dog meat in Indonesia.

    And proudly bragged about it in his book “Dreams from My Father”.
    I’m Pretty Sure Jim Treacher Won The Internet

    Was Obama a child when he wrote “Dreams from my Father”? Nope. If there is a statute of limitations on what we can use as political fodder, than the rule would certainly apply to the Romney family vacation in 1983, would it not?

  13. 13.

    beltane

    Why is the Romney campaign bringing this up? It makes me wonder if the Romney’s are in the habit of dining on the reject foals of Ann’s dressage horses. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  14. 14.

    dmsilev

    Guess the dog-on-car story must really be hurting the Rombot’s campaign. Are they really that desperate for a distraction?

  15. 15.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    ah they are just trying to knock down the dog on car, and the dog-d-que. they need to realize those stories can bubble up again at any time, for any reason.

  19. 19.

    dmsilev

    Oh, and on the subject of dogs, maybe someone should ask Mitt about his choice of hosts for his wife’s birthday party last week.

    Also, too, has Bill Frist endorsed Mitt Romney yet?

  20. 20.

    Anthony

    For some reason I found this line of attack more hilarious then anything they’ve thrown at each other this season. It’s so petty and irrelevant. I mean, there was a staffer, trolling through Dreams of my Father for ammo, for hours, so that they could do this.

  21. 21.

    Clime Acts

    See where focusing on stupid shit like “Seamus On the Roof OMFG” leads us to?

    That the dog strapped to the luggage rack in an enclosed carrier was some crime against all of the animal kingdom was a dumb meme on which to attempt to score points anyway.

    It’s not as though the Mittster doesn’t have plenty or relevant baggage to explain.

  22. 22.

    lacp

    Dunno if Willard eats horse meat. Now horse shit, that’s a different matter, so to speak.

  23. 23.

    pragmatism

    @redshirt: how i wish the entire village were ghosts. how i fear the next generation of villagers that will ascend via nepotism or naked ambition.
    shorter Rmoney: we couldn’t explain dog on car away so we’re going with false equivalence.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    Obama himself put the story out there, years ago when he wrote his book. The evidence cited for this “outrage” is an excerpt from Dreams From My Father. Like I said a few threads down, the Soetoros wouldn’t have been eating dog regularly. It’s technically haram, whereas his stepdad Lolo was nominally Muslim. And Anne wouldn’t have been keen on it. Most likely young Barry had it once or twice as a novelty.

    I think it rather unlikely that President Obama retains a taste for it, and has the White House kitchen prepare an occasional roast pooch for his family’s Sunday lunch.

    But you know, some people just love the mental image this story conjures up: Obama lurking behind Bo with a pair of carving knives.

  25. 25.

    Villago Delenda Est

    You know, in Korea, dog meat is pretty routinely served, but you have to ask for it. Kagogi instead of Bulgogi, you know.

    Now, this isn’t exactly the same as torturing a dog, which is essentially what the vile excuse for a human being named Rmoney did with the family dog.

  26. 26.

    Rhoda

    The Romney folks are REALLY desperate if they’re reaching back this far; and no I don’t think the original dude just decided to randomly reread Dreams of My Father.

    Otherwise, LOLZ. This is gonna be fun to watch play out on the comedy shows.

  28. 28.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Clime Acts:

    You should be strapped to the roof of a vehicle travelling down the interstate to see how much you like it.

    You are a vile creature in oh so many ways.

  30. 30.

    FlipYrWhig

    I have to say, I think Bob Somerby is off the deep end these days, but I’m with him all the way about the -bullshit- dogshit story of Seamus the Dog. It doesn’t matter. Enough already.

  31. 31.

    andrewsomething

    From Dogs Against Romney response:

    As soon as that interview ended, I Googled “Indonesia dog meat” and found a Wikipedia page about it. I found that people do, indeed, consume dog meat there – but not the Muslims.

    So does this mean that we can now all agree that he’s not Muslim?

  32. 32.

    Chyron HR

    @Clime Acts:

    When you see the True Progressive idol Mitt Romney subjected to O-bot criticism do you:

    A) Cry,
    B) Shit yourself in rage, or
    C) Both?

  33. 33.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @andrewsomething:

    Well, no, even though he’s been known to drink alcohol, which is also forbidden to Muslims.

    You don’t expect the wingtards to be consistent in their maniacal hate of the ni*CLANG*, do you?

  34. 34.

    KG

    People do realize that in much of Asia they eat dog, right? The raise a certain breed, pretty much like cattle. It’s not like taking your tea cup chihuahua and cooking him up as a snack. I’m pretty sure the fact that we eat cow probably offends some Hindus, no?

  35. 35.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Actually, it does matter. It’s the sort of thing that a lot of people can relate to, as a judge of this foul creature’s alledged “character”. He told the story himself as an example of his quick and decisive thinking!

    It’s another example of his sociopath tendencies, to include loving to fire people and thinking that the money obsessed monsters called corporations are people.

    This is the sort of thing that makes someone, deservedly, a pariah.

  36. 36.

    vickijean

    Are you deaf to dog whistles? I guess I have lived in the deep south too long. The real message here is that of other. “Real Americans” are suspicious of “foreign food” especially Asian food. Rumors of dogs disappearing around Chinese restaurants. So now they remind you that he is not only a “Kenyan imposter” but lived in an Asian sort of place too, somewhere “across the pond” and that was the Daddy that raised him. Story doesn’t have to be consistent, truthful or relevant. Just needs to prick the ears a bit.

    The article is outrageous, but you need to read the comments to see how far off the deep end these folks are diving. But no matter how deep they dive, they can still hear those dog whistles.

  37. 37.

    beltane

    @andrewsomething: I think the wingnut response would be that he is still a Muslim, but an apostate Muslim which is even worse than being an observant Muslim. Really, I heard this criticism of Obama back in 2008 though not in the context of dog meat.

  38. 38.

    WhoopTDu

    “Mitt Romney famously took a twelve hour trip from Boston to Canada with his dog Seamus on the roof of his car. Mitt claims the dog enjoyed the ride, so I decided to test to see how enjoyable being strapped to the roof of a car in a kennel really was.”

    The camera is mounted on a stuffed toy dog.
    Turn the volume down when you watch the video it’s quite loud.

    http://youtu.be/CaiOdVM5z5o

  39. 39.

    Gin & Tonic

    @andrewsomething:

    So does this mean that we can now all agree that he’s not Muslim?

    Of course not. It just means he’s a heretic Muslim, which is worse, naturally.

    ETA: I see beltane beat me to it

  40. 40.

    bemused

    I’ve never seen or heard of anyone (until Mitt) driving with a dog in a kennel on top of the car. The clueless man revealed this himself to a reporter thinking it somehow was an amusing story. Ann now says the dog loved it. I’m sure a kid would think that would be a fun thing to do but no responsible parent would actually do that and no responsible pet owner would cart his dog across country like that either.

    I think it is very interesting that a group called something like Dogs Against Romney was following Mitt on the campaign trail with a stuffed dog in a crate on top of a car and was stopped by a highway patrol officer who thought it was a real dog. Evidently, there are laws against that in some states.

    Mitt is a very stupid man.

  41. 41.

    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady)

    @beltane:

    As Cole said, I don’t see how an adult torturing an animal equates with a child eating a meal that he is served.

    That’s because you’re not a wingnut.

  42. 42.

    Citizen_X

    I’d look askance at anyone who somehow strapped a live, terrified cow to the top of their vehicle, and left it there to shit all over the place, and yet I still eat teh cows.

    Hell, Even The Liberal Ted Nugent would refuse to strap a dying deer across the hood of his truck, and would put it out of its misery first, and he’s eaten plenty of venison.

  43. 43.

    The Other Chuck

    @Citizen_X:

    Hell, Even The Liberal Ted Nugent would refuse to strap a dying deer across the hood of his truck, and would put it out of its misery first, and he’s eaten plenty of venison.

    Actually I get the distinct impression that he would enjoy the suffering.

  44. 44.

    Amir Khalid

    We keep dogs and rabbits (another meat animal) as pets, and for many of us eating them (or members of their species) just feels beyond the pale. Frontpager Betty Cracker feels this way about the chickens she’s built a coop for. Many years ago we had a minister of agriculture who tried to promote rabbits as a meat animal in Malaysia. No joy, for the obvious reason.

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    I’d guess that Koreans who eat dog probably don’t have pet dogs themselves. As I understand, dog meat is more popular there with country folk, because of its supposed medicinal properties.

  45. 45.

    Citizen_X

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    He told the story himself as an example of his quick and decisive thinking!

    To quote Morpheus, “It’s exactly the kind of solution a machine would come up with.”

  46. 46.

    Irony Abounds

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m getting extremely depressed about November. The Repubs keep pushing the liberal mainstream media BS harder and harder and the “liberal” mainstream media bends farther and farther over to give Repubs the benefit of the doubt on everything and between the outright lies and false equivalencies the mindless middle of America will simply shrug and think electing Romney and the Repubs will be no different than re-electing Obama. Then the hammer hits in January 2013 and we are in for a horrible horrible four years of complete Repub control. Just shoot me.

  48. 48.

    Calouste

    @andrewsomething:

    As Amir Khalid points out above, dogs are Haram (i.e. “unclean”) to Muslims. There was a bit of an uproar in Pakistan a few years back when military strongman Musharraf appeared with a dog on his arm.

  50. 50.

    gnomedad

    @Amir Khalid:

    I think it rather unlikely that President Obama retains a taste for it, and has the White House kitchen prepare an occasional roast pooch for his family’s Sunday lunch.

    Not now, sure, but just see what happens if he’s re-elected.

  53. 53.

    Crusty Dem

    Clearly Tapper is butthurt about not being included in the “Wanker of the Decade” list. Don’t worry Jake, your decade may be here.

    Douche.

  54. 54.

    Sally Rakowski

    As Cole said, I don’t see how an adult torturing an animal equates with a child eating a meal that he is served.

    No one is trying to equate it. The Romney incident should’ve died four years ago after he lost to McCain, but now it’s being trotted out again to muted effect.

    The revelation that Obama ate dog meat isn’t being met with outrage, but laughter.

    Big difference.

    May both stories not last through the end of the week.

  56. 56.

    Amir Khalid

    @Calouste:
    Dog meat is haram to eat. Keeping dogs as pets is not so bad, although many Muslims look askance at it. Cat meat is haram too, but you all know the Muslim tradition that the Prophet adored cats.

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    Our favorite Mexican joint in college later got busted for dog and cat in the fridge, so I suspect the president and I now have something else in common.

    But…no vid so it didn’t happen!

  60. 60.

    General Stuck

    @Hill Dweller:

    After that unmittigated disaster of an interview with Diane Sawyer, I think this puppy has legs, at least as bolstering the meme that the Romney’s are some weird and cold cookies, not living on the same planet as the rest of us. They could have ended it, by admitting they fucked up, once, and not claiming the dog loved it, like all the other times they put him on the roof. Beyond tone deaf.

  63. 63.

    Mayken

    @KG: Thank you! This is what gets me about this whole line of attack, not the false equivilance but the racism. And it is racism, make no mistake.

  64. 64.

    Tonal Crow

    I heard that when Obama was a tot he picked his nose in public! And not just once, but three times! And to top it off, he flung the boogers at a classmate, who — I’m sure you’ll see the lack of coincidence here — was a founding member of the Young Republicans of Indonesia.

    I’m not making this up, folks.

    /typical Republican

  65. 65.

    Origuy

    I forget which wingnut, maybe Pam Geller, put forth the idea that Obama is a secreeet Muslim and the Qu’ran allows them to pretend they aren’t a Muslim by eating pork, drinking alcohol, and skipping Friday prayers. It’s so they can work toward the ultimate goal of making us all Muslim or something.

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    @General Stuck:

    Who’s willing to bet before the election Willard buys a puppy (awwww) and then hires a dog caretaker (instant buzz kill)?

    He makes Gerald Ford seem like Fred Astaire.

  71. 71.

    4tehlulz

    Meanwhile, Barack Obama is tired of your shit.

    “Until the House of Representatives indicates that it will abide by last summer’s agreement, the President will not be able to sign any appropriations bills,” writes Jeffrey Zients, acting director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, in a letter addressed to congressional appropriators Wednesday.

  73. 73.

    Sally Rakowski

    Muted effect? Why is the Romney camp so desperate to tamp it out? For giggles?

    I think the better question is why has the Obama camp been so desperate to keep it going.

    If the Romney camp was so desperate to tamp it out, they would’ve found that passage a long time ago, instead of some blogger at The Daily Caller.

    Kind of a stretch to call this a desperate act by the Romney camp. Not even sure it would meet Obama’s urgent message of four years ago “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard.”

    This wasn’t hitting back at all, it was just telling Obama that people with glass jaws shouldn’t throw stones.

  76. 76.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Sally Rakowski:

    This wasn’t hitting back at all, it was just telling Obama that people with glass jaws shouldn’t throw stones.

    Rmoney should be taking his own advice, then. He’s far more vulnerable on the animal abuse front than Obama can even pretend to be.

  77. 77.

    Calouste

    @gocart mozart:

    “We had a customer on Facebook say, ‘Maybe he’s just used to eating cookies with diamonds in them,'” said Walsh. “I don’t know. We don’t offer that yet.”

    Good to see those kind of memes floating around in the local news media without needing any further explanation. That means that the idea of Romney as an out-of-touch, extremely rich guy is taking hold.

  80. 80.

    Sally Rakowski

    Rmoney should be taking his own advice, then. He’s far more vulnerable on the animal abuse front than Obama can even pretend to be.

    Which is it, then, a totally stupid, false equivalence, or a story you want to see continuing in order to compare and contrast?

    Again, who’s being desperate here?

  81. 81.

    satanicpanic

    Remember when Hannity was trying to claim that stories about Obama’s cocain use that were right out of Dreams from My Father were “leaked” by the Hillary campaign? Good times.

  82. 82.

    JGabriel

    @calliope jane:

    Frogs, I think? Just awful. Who thinks to do that?

    I don’t know. When I was growing up in my neck of Pennsyltucky, I know there kids doing it to cats.

    .

  84. 84.

    Hill Dweller

    @Sally Rakowski: You’re not sure it’s desperate? The Romney camp is using the actions of a 6 year old to blunt the ‘muted effect’ of the dog on car story. A 6 year old. Of course, it’s desperate.

    They’re flailing around because they(and you) know a grown man putting a dog on top of a car for 10-12 hours(stopping only to hose the shit off him) is fucking weird.

  85. 85.

    jlow

    Has the right wing gone PETA? Is eating beef the same as torturing a cow? Gonna eat some tofu burgers down at the NASCAR track?

  86. 86.

    Sally Rakowski

    I’ve seen a lot of dogs in the back of a pick-up truck, Hill Dweller. I’ve seen a lot of kids in the back of a pick-up truck, too, for that matter.

    Is it weird what he did, yeah, maybe. Is it worth banging the drum about to see how far it goes? I’m not so sure, but it seems to me that you think it definitely is. So I’ll ask you again, is this desperation because it might work better than discussing the issues or running on the record for Obama, or is he just trying to keep the public informed that Romney might be the kind of president that would promote cruelty to animals?

    Seriously, if you think it’s a winner, then say that and accept the fight instead of whining about a false equivalence, an unfair media, or the tired charge of racism, because frankly, those all just reek of desperation.

  87. 87.

    Suffern ACE

    @Sally Rakowski: it’s not an Obama camp thing. It’s a Gail Collins obsession. Honestly, I wouldnt mind Romney digging through her biography to sling at her. I doubt there’s much there. She’s too proud of her contribution to the campaign discussion to have had a controversial thought.

  88. 88.

    Cain

    @Amir Khalid:

    Dog meat is haram to eat. Keeping dogs as pets is not so bad, although many Muslims look askance at it. Cat meat is haram too, but you all know the Muslim tradition that the Prophet adored cats.

    Once again proving how smart cat are and how dumb dogs are. I bet the Prophet would have enjoyed the internet and lolcats.

  89. 89.

    Jason

    I don’t believe Romney is pushing this story. It just makes Romney’s dog abuse more salient. This has the potential to seriously backfire on Romney’s campaign.

  90. 90.

    Steve in DC

    I don’t know why people like the dog scandal, it’s a loser and it distracts from the real issue.

    Everyday should be spent banging home how Bain Capital forced debt on profitable companies to pay themselves millions, then fired people off, refused to maintain them, killed pensions and healthcare, and sold them off for a profit and the jobs landed in Mexico.

    Drive it home, hit it home. Set the stage so that when Obama wins the mandate isn’t talking about abortion, contraception, and dogs, but working wages and more for the middle class and stopping the robber barons.

    Because unless Obama is elected on that issue, we can prepare for four more years of covering Wall Streets ass, cheap credit for the banks, and pennies for the rest of us.

  91. 91.

    Linda Featheringill

    @beltane: #61

    Cookiegate is quite a story. Doesn’t he have any manners at all?

    When your host offers you food/drink, you’re supposed to enjoy it or leave it alone but you never, ever criticize it or make fun of it.

    I’m actually appalled by the bad manners of it all. Also a bit confused. Politicians tend to exhibit very good manners, even if they have to fake it.

  92. 92.

    Hill Dweller

    @Sally Rakowski: Stop pretending this is an either/or scenario. The campaign is going after Romney on multiple fronts, most notably his lying, secrecy and economic policies. The dog story isn’t anywhere near the Obama campaign’s central criticism of Romney, but people find it appalling, which explains their desperate deflections.

  94. 94.

    Amir Khalid

    @Sally Rakowski:
    There is a difference, you know, between being in the open at the back of a pickup truck, where you can see everything and enjoy the wind on your face; and being confined in a closed box on top of a car, where you don’t can’t see what’s going on, big noisy unknown things are rushing past you (or maybe at you), there is no one to reassure you, and you have no avenue of escape.

  95. 95.

    Steve in DC

    @Linda

    No you do not have to. Hosts can be extremely insulting as well. See vegans serving other people fake meat or cheese substitutes and then telling them latter while their mouths are full what it is. You can taste how foul it is, it’s a dirty trick, and it makes them a vile jackass.

    Some hosts are just flat out rude, and nobody should be forced to eat something they don’t like. I don’t eat desert which is a non issue and I politely refuse. But I don’t eat around vegans or associate with them because they are rude hosts and cruel.

  96. 96.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Actually, I’d like to see that pedophile strapped to the front end of a wrecking ball.

    To the front end of a bulldozer that’s being used to shovel large quantities of bullshit into a composting machine would be an acceptable substitute.

  97. 97.

    Mnemosyne

    @Sally Rakowski:

    Which is it, then, a totally stupid, false equivalence, or a story you want to see continuing in order to compare and contrast?

    If you insist on it being an either/or, I’m more than happy to have this be a continuing story so we can point out that, once again, Republicans insist that Republican adults are the emotional equivalent of children and if a 6-year-old did something, then a 40-year-old can’t be blamed for doing something similar.

    If you want to present 30-something Mitt Romney as having the same emotional intelligence as 6-year-old Barack Obama, I say Bring It.

  98. 98.

    amused

    Funny, I was behind a car with an I Ride Inside: Pets Against Mitt Romney (with a cute puppy pic) sticker this afternoon. People like the dog scandal because it speaks to the lizard brain; it’s easy to get, doesn’t have a lot details that, frankly, most people tune out within a couple sentences. Like Cookiegate, it’s an instant display of character that non-political-junkies use to judge candidates. Everyone’s had a dog at some point; anyone who’s put hard work into a feast knows what it’s like to be dissed by the snob. They don’t care what he’s done, they couldn’t make head nor tails of the Bain drama, but this stuff makes people not like who he is. Meanwhile, as Ann Romney’s openly laughing at the attention her fake outrage got her, Michele Obama is going on Ellen for the military families, and Colbert – she is so adored by stay at home moms! Sadly, likability is key – they’re talking end of the world, and Obama’s saying “we can do this, but it’s going to take work.” Wasn’t it Reagan’s optimism that made people like him?

  99. 99.

    Amir Khalid

    @Steve in DC:
    If vegan food were foul, which I dispute, there would be no vegans. If you know your host is vegan — it’s not something they hide, after all — you expect vegan food. If I were to find out during a meal that I was eating vegan food, I would see no reason to take offense. But for some reason, you would.

    Linda Featheringill is absolutely right that you should enjoy what a host serves you, or politely decline if you can’t. It is the good manners we were all taught, except maybe you. You have a right to protest only if you have been maliciously deceived about what is in the food.

  100. 100.

    Sally Rakowski

    If you want to present 30-something Mitt Romney as having the same emotional intelligence as 6-year-old Barack Obama, I say Bring It.

    You must understand, you are the ones who have been Bringing It. You Brought It four years ago, and now again for some odd reason you want to make it an issue to draw a contrast in likeability, or weirdness, or something like that. But you’re offended for some reason by an obscure blogger finding out Obama once ate dog meat and poking fun at him for it? That doesn’t make sense.

    Both incidences are silly sideshow crap, and quite frankly, you seem just a little too worried about it for some reason.

  102. 102.

    Rhoda

    @Steve in DC: That’s coming, I’ve no doubt. Right now they’re working towards the secret accounts and tax issues while the President pushes for tax reform and the Buffett Rule.

  103. 103.

    AA+ Bonds

    Well it was always a dumb throwaway line and now they have a quick riposte, game set match

    you’ve done the damage, let it go unless they bring up their response out of context

  104. 104.

    Mnemosyne

    @Sally Rakowski:

    You must understand, you are the ones who have been Bringing It. You Brought It four years ago, and now again for some odd reason you want to make it an issue to draw a contrast in likeability, or weirdness, or something like that.

    No, Mitt’s the one who Brought It by, you know, telling the story to a reporter. If he’s embarrassed by the story, he should say so rather than trying to defend his actions.

    If you want to compare and contrast Romney’s actions as an adult with Obama’s actions as a child, be my guest, but it seems awfully desperate to insist that a man in his late 30s shouldn’t be expected to have better judgement than a six-year-old just because the adult is a Republican. Isn’t that admitting that you guys shouldn’t be anywhere near the reins of power because you can’t be trusted to act any more responsibly than your average six-year-old?

  105. 105.

    AA+ Bonds

    I mean if you are going for the gut instincts of dog lovers then yes the idea that Obama ate dog meat will have the same effect as the Romney story, if you have to reason through that sort of appeal to make the distinction between your guy and the other guy it’s not effective, plus of course all the racist shit it will stir up

    What I am saying is that if you are now appealing to the dog lovers who are like, oh that’s different because Obama was only a kid and etc., you are just appealing to people who already like Obama

  107. 107.

    David Koch

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I think Bob Somerby is off the deep end these days

    I haven’t read him in years, what’s he wanking away about these days?

  108. 108.

    Hill Dweller

    @Sally Rakowski: For fuck’s sake, no one is offended a “blogger found out about it”. It was in Obama’s book! He put it there! The millions of people who read said book already knew about it. If anything, it engendered sympathy for a 6 year old having to eat dog(and snake).

    In the Romney story, people feel sorry for the dog. Can you see the difference?

    As I said earlier in the thread, the Romney camp didn’t run with the 6 year old Obama eating dog story just for giggles.

  110. 110.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    @Crusty Dem: The original version of his story was an ever better entry for WotD. You will note the little asterisk noting the story has been edited. When I read it this morning this is how the story ended “Certainly kinder than eating him.” That’s it. No mention of this line of thinking being from the Romney camp. I guess he took a little too much heat for deciding rather than reporting. After all, he’s not on Fox…yet.

  111. 111.

    AA+ Bonds

    @Sally Rakowski:

    now again for some odd reason you want to make it an issue to draw a contrast in likeability, or weirdness

    do Democrats take offense at this because that’s exactly what it did for its crazily long life as Romney seppuku

    it was kind of neat that it made it out of McCain oppo where it was basically paired with the gun ownership/hunting thing to show that Mitt Romney wasn’t a real American man who knows how to do man things, and now it is some business about how he’s not sensitive enough

    Very flexible

  112. 112.

    AA+ Bonds

    As liberals always whine about conservative knocks, “the damage has already been done”, move on to other fresher ways of explaining Mitt Romney’s callousness

    All you are seeing is the national machine moving in and Roving the lines on Romney

    * Romney’s weakness/Obama’s strength: cruelty to dogs
    * Rove strategy: attack their strengths
    * Search text of Obama’s publications to find mention of “dog”
    * Dump on news cycle
    * Neutralize line
    __
    Y’all gotta keep moving, don’t get pinned down on some shit where they have a BARRY SOETORO INDONESIA angle too

  113. 113.

    AA+ Bonds

    @Origuy:

    I forget which wingnut, maybe Pam Geller, put forth the idea that Obama is a secreeet Muslim and the Qu’ran allows them to pretend they aren’t a Muslim by eating pork, drinking alcohol, and skipping Friday prayers. It’s so they can work toward the ultimate goal of making us all Muslim or something

    I believe you are thinking of the Inquisition

    Nevertheless certain Muslims did hold that remembrance of these and other acts without performance of them was significantly different from forgetting to perform them, and ‘better’

    I don’t know about currently, samara probably does

  114. 114.

    fasteddie9318

    The sad thing is, I knew it would be Tapper before I clicked the link. Does he still read this blog? If so, Jake, please keep fucking that chicken.

  116. 116.

    rikyrah

    I still ask…WHERE IS PETA on this?

    if BO had a bad haircut, they’d be ready to protest the White House..

    but, I don’t hear them saying anything about what Romney did to that dog.

  117. 117.

    Bex

    @Linda Featheringill: It’s not a question of manners. Rmoney hasn’t got a clue about how to do charming campaign small talk with ordinary people, because he has hardly ever had to talk to ordinary people.

  118. 118.

    Sally Rakowski

    There is a difference, you know, between being in the open at the back of a pickup truck, where you can see everything and enjoy the wind on your face; and being confined in a closed box on top of a car, where you don’t can’t see what’s going on, big noisy unknown things are rushing past you (or maybe at you), there is no one to reassure you, and you have no avenue of escape.

    You forgot to mention the scariest thing of all…that there might be people driving by that want you for dinner.

  121. 121.

    Original Lee

    @Steve in DC: The dog scandal has legs because all but the deepest red conservatives are not happy about what that says about Willard. They can brush off the robo-candidate examples. They can brush off the richer than God rich guy examples. Many of them can even ignore the Mormon examples. But when you tell this story to a conservative who hasn’t heard it before (and many of them haven’t), you can almost see the little light bulb appear over their heads as they consider what a guy who would do that to a dog would do as POTUS. Strange but true.

  122. 122.

    Phoenician in a time of Romans

    Given the e-coli that regularly shows up in the American diet, we must conclude that the average American is about the same as a mushroom or dung beetle.

  123. 123.

    Clime Acts

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    Actually, I’d like to see that pedophile strapped to the front end of a wrecking ball.

    Hey, Odie, all my boys say hello. The ten year old especially. I think he has a crush on you.

  125. 125.

    CW in LA

    @calliope jane: Yeah, in Justin Frank’s book “Bush on the Couch”, he talked about Bush sticking firecrackers in frogs’ butts.

    In my opinion, the dog on the car roof story is effective for swaying the sort of voters who make their decision based on who they’d rather have a beer with.

    The fact that the Romneys just don’t see that they did anything wrong is what clinches it – If they’d just said, In retrospect it was a sucky thing to do, but at the time we didn’t see what else we could’ve done, if would’ve humanized them. Too few people are willing to own up to a mistake. But these people strike me as out of touch enough that they don’t see the point of humanizing themselves.

  126. 126.

    Original Lee

    @General Stuck: Not to mention the fact that the dog loved it so much that he ran away afterwards and was never seen again. This part of the story is rarely included.

  128. 128.

    Windshouter

    But now we need to know the most embarrassing thing Mr Romney ate as a six year old. Come on press, do some reporting. There goes my political career.

  129. 129.

    Keith G

    I don’t get the hate some are expressing about this report. Yes is is part of the trivial BS that gets too much play during our silly electoral process, but is this reporting slanted or in anyway anti Obama?

  130. 130.

    Ruckus

    @lacp:
    Not so much he eats it, he has a knack for producing it with his vocal cords. He must, because every time he opens his mouth shit comes out.

  134. 134.

    trollhattan

    @Windshouter:

    Li’l Willard suffered from pica and used to eat the old man’s cigarettes. Oh yeah, a Mormon with a three pack a day habit.

    That’s my reportin’.

  135. 135.

    Heliopause

    Honestly, I think the Romney dog on the roof of the car story has dachshund-sized legs and it’s a waste of calories for you to type out these posts about it. But hey, if it comes down to the votes of 50 dog lovers in Florida, good on you.

  136. 136.

    El Tiburon

    Also Obama had incest sex with his moms cause he breast fed as a baby.

    But the libtards media will never report on that.

  137. 137.

    clayton

    To me, it seems that Treacher & Co. — including Tapper — just had this in their back pocket for when Romney basically clinched the GOP nom. They probably wanted to hang onto it for a while, but after Ann-bot said Seamus enjoyed the roof ride, they had to trot it out.

    This will fade.

    We are at the “it’s the economy” point and I figure there will be a couple of international crises between now and November where Mitt will step in it big time, just like McCain.

    Axlerod et al are just having fun with the Twatter people.

  138. 138.

    clayton

    @Sally Rakowski: I’m sure you enjoy a good burger every once in a while, and I’m also sure that you have never even visited, much less lived in, a different culture.

    There’s a huge group of people who think your eating habits are sacrilegious. But you don’t care. It’s far more important to make fun of someone who has more world experience than you.

    You probably think the French are wusses, too.

  141. 141.

    TuiMel

    @Original Lee:
    Not to mention the fact that the dog loved it so much that he ran away afterwards and was never seen again. This part of the story is rarely included.

    Perhaps Obama was lurking about, captured and, you know, renamed him “Timothy” or “Donner” and you can guess the rest.

  142. 142.

    Mnemosyne

    I noticed that someone clued Jake in to the fact that his original story was a little, shall we say, too nakedly partisan and he re-wrote it to blame it all on the Romney campaign. Because, of course, he certainly wasn’t trying to claim that a six-year-old child and a 36-year-old adult should be held equally responsible for their actions. He was just repeating what the Romney campaign said!

  143. 143.

    Mnemosyne

    I’m guessing that Jake thinks the cops in Georgia didn’t go nearly far enough since they only kept this kid in jail for a few hours. After all, since the actions of adults and kids should be judged the same way, she should be standing in front of a judge getting 6 months in jail just like a 36-year-old who did the same thing would be, amirite, Jake?

  144. 144.

    Monala

    @Sally Rakowski: OK, I haven’t reached the end of the thread yet, so I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this. This Seamus story didn’t originate with the Obama camp, nor are they the ones keeping it alive. (Have they even mentioned it, except for David Axelrod’s tweeted pic of Obama riding in a limo with Bo with the caption, “How loving owners transport their dog”? I haven’t heard of anything else).

    NYT reporter Gail Collins apparently mentions it a lot, but she’s not a surrogate for the Obama team.

    The Seamus story was first told to a Boston Globe reporter in 2007 by a friend of Romney’s, and the reporter verified it with his sons before he printed it. The point of the story was to humanize Romney, and he and his family apparently thought it was a humorous story until they realized people were recoiling from it.

    The guy who started Dogs Against Romney is apparently a Republican, but is a dog lover who was so turned off by the story that he started this group to protest him.

  145. 145.

    priscianusjr

    “In Indonesia, eating dog meat is usually associated with people from the Batak Toba culture, who cook a traditional dish named saksang that is like a dog-meat stew. The Minahasa are also well-known for eating dog, which is considered a festive dish and usually reserved for special occasions like weddings and Christmas. However dogs are not consumed by the Muslim population of Indonesia.”
    http://www.puppybeef.com/history.php
    But … but … I thought Obama is a Muslim?

  146. 146.

    CW in LA

    @Monala: One thing we’ve evidently learned from the Hilary Rosen episode is that anyone who appears to support the president’s re-election is a surrogate for him, and he can be held personally responsible for everything they say or do.

    At the same time, Romney as it seems has no surrogates, for all he’s been asked about the antics of Nugent, Limbaugh, etc., etc.

  147. 147.

    Blogreeder

    Look, no one really cares about the Romney story. Cry me a river. But the dog eating story is funny! I don’t care who you are. What I find amazing is how tight you liberals are. I was telling a liberal woman I know about a quip I read that Romney is better than Obama because he only put the dog on the roof of his car and not on the roof of his mouth. I expected a long exhale and a rolling of the eyes. She responded with almost the exact wording of John’s post. Oooh. What fake outrage. You know, it’s not like you guys are going to vote for Romney anyway. Didn’t his dog survive? Lighten up!

  148. 148.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @Mnemosyne:

    From that link I found this story. It seems that the man who runs the Catholic church has appointed another man to whip those unruly nuns back into line. He’s going to rewrite their statutes, make sure they are praying properly and other things that the women of the Catholic church are too stupid and incompetent to do for themselves.

    Blame it on Eve, it’s all her fault for being the original Bad Girl and leading mankind astray. I’m glad to be rid of that cult, I just wish the rest of the world could be rid of them too.

    Them and the other humanity-hating religious death cults.

  149. 149.

    clayton

    @Blogreeder:

    Look, no one really cares about the Romney story.

    Of course that’s why it’s still bouncing around and Ann-bot feels compelled to respond to it in a way that makes it worse.

  150. 150.

    Triassic Sands

    @Beth in VA:

    (as a child, when you don’t exactly pick the menu)

    If Obama was two-years-old or younger when someone fed him dog meat, I don’t hold him responsible. But if he was already talking, then he had the moral obligation to refuse to eat dog.

    Furthermore, he should have taken his parents to task for allowing him to be in such a situation. In fact, he probably should have asked to be turned over to foster parents.

    Moral responsibility for one’s actions begins at about two-years-old — that’s why I support the death penalty for two-year-olds who commit murder, deal drugs, or blaspheme.

  152. 152.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Monala: Best comment!

    There is no circumstance under which the Bot would get my vote, but what he did to that dog just reflects on his character in my opinion. Cold, cruel man.

    A 6-year old child eating what’s placed in front of him is in no way comparable. Interesting that the Bot still finds what he did to Seamus hilarious. Keep laughing.

  155. 155.

    Ksmiami

    @beltane: Because romney has nothing to run on and I believe that his stance on the auto bailout kills him in oh and mi as it should!

  156. 156.

    Ksmiami

    @beltane: Because romney has nothing to run on and I believe that his stance on the auto bailout kills him in oh and mi as it should!

  157. 157.

    Haydnseek

    @Irony Abounds: You’re not alone. In addition to the things you mentioned, ballots will mysteriously vanish {but only in Democratic leaning precincts,) voting machines will start coughing up furballs that put Rethugs over the top in some precincts, and because some Breitbartbrain manages to bamboozle a 90 year old precinct worker in Dogdick, Mississipi into letting him vote for Saul Alinsky, the village will duly inform us that both sides do it….

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  1. […] Same Thing, Both Sides Do It, GOTCHA LIBTARDS! – So apparently, when Obama was a young boy, someone fed him dog meat in Indonesia. Which, according to wingnuts, is exactly the same thing as a grown man making the decision to strap his dog to the roof of the car and terrorize it on a cross country trip. SUCK ON THAT LIBERALS! And of course the WH press corpse is on the job mainstreaming this bullshit. […]