Paški sir? No thank you ma’am. I will take gorgonzola because it sounds more like beans.
3.
Piratedan
one thing I can say about those Italians, for soccer players they are excellent actors. The way that they fall would make you believe that there are snipers in the stands.
4.
Yutsano
Gorgonzola FTW!
And just looking at your choices, are you obsessed with mold inoculated cheeses Randinho?
Half the paski sir in Croatia is made from sheep stock I helped bring from Western Europe (various sources) just as much of the prsut (their version, which is better than the Italian prosciutto for my tastes) is from pigs I helped bring in from Netherlands back in the early 00s.
So, knowing the source, I’ll go with paski although I would like to see Pirlo go out with a bang.
8.
LGRooney
@Raven: Go away. We’re talking sport here, not games.
9.
Yutsano
@LGRooney: War recovery assistance? And good on you sir!
10.
Piratedan
@the Conster: that is hilarious! I shouldn’t rag specifically on the Italians, a lot of teams do this nowadays and the hard part is, how do you KNOW when someone is faking. Plus if you determine that someone is faking, how do you penalize them. I know we all get stingers and with the help of our own adrenalin can block and mask pain…. but some of these guys…. well they make the game less enjoyable imho.
11.
LGRooney
@Yutsano: Yeah, it was all USAID work. I was only there for 14 months before going on to Montenegro for 3 years.
Being that I am of Croatia extract I will go with them.
20.
Raven
@LGRooney: I see the “game” bumped the sport off of ESPN!
21.
Ben Franklin
Don’t know if anyone has posted this subject, but I cannot resist.
In the strangest cameo of the year, George W. Bush’s (fake) severed head made an unexpected appearance on Game of Thrones.
The prop head, which was mostly covered with a long wig, was shown decapitated and displayed on a stake during the HBO drama’s first season finale. This little easter egg can be spotted when the sadistic King Joffrey (Jack Gleeson) forced Sansa Stark (Sophie Tuner) to see her own father among a series of severed heads displayed for the citizens of King’s Landing. Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss pointed out the inappropriate prop during an episode commentary for the Season 1 DVD.
Game of Thrones’ Alfie Allen Addresses Theon’s Fate, Wants Free Brothels for All
“The last head on the left is George Bush,” the creators said. “George Bush’s head appears in a couple of beheading scenes. It’s not a choice, it’s not a political statement. We just had to use whatever heads we had lying around.”
@Ben Franklin:
Don’t you just hate it when the props department is too cheap to pay for the real thing?
24.
LGRooney
@Raven: Regular ESPN watchers’ eyes got tired of seeing so much activity, probably, so the complaints drove them to remove the athletic stuff for golf.
@LGRooney: Both. Olympic is an incredibly hard course and they have Tiger, Phil and Bubba
in the same group and are showing every shot.
30.
gex
Just had this exchange.
My friend posted something from Breitbart. So I cautioned them to check and make sure that there aren’t important omissions (such as in the Shirley Sherrod incident) before deciding on it.
It was certainly a tame comment I thought. It certainly doesn’t reflect my complete feelings on the lying evil MFs approach to politics.
And like EVERY TIME I post anything political, some right winger comes in screaming about MSNBC and HuffPo. I don’t read either and I don’t watch the former. EVERY TIME.
I can only guess this is what the Dittoheads are being told to think. I let loose a bit with “Who the fuck said anything about MSNBC” and “Actually, I do love the irony of being told off for asking someone to simply confirm what they read on a highly partisan site by someone who has categorically decided anything from MSNBC and HuffPo is, not only questionable, but definitively false.”
The scope of people who act like this, the age range in particular, is just upsetting to me. The tribal, limbic brain mode of GOP tribalism just cannnot be resisted by our monkey brains. I questioned someone on their side, and THAT.IS.IT! Attack!
That these pawns yammer on and on about freedom is just the icing on the cake. MUST.NOT.QUESTION. DO.AS.INSTRUCTED. FREEDOM!
31.
Raven
Nice shot!
32.
Soonergrunt
“Sir” Allen Stanford sentenced to 110 years in prison without parole for fraud. LINK
33.
Amir Khalid
Itaaly pay the price for sitting on their lead: Croatia equalize, through Mario Mandzukic.
34.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid: If one is not vigilant, one can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
35.
Raven
And the balloon is about to go up in Egypt!
36.
gex
And my other OT: NOM for Brachiator who got pissy when I complained that NOM is largely backed by the Catholic Church.
37.
Punchy
What would Sully say about another tie in this tourney?
38.
Ksmiami
@Napoleon: Me too – still have cousins in zagreb and the adriatic
39.
Amir Khalid
The match goes into injury time, with the teams level at 1 – 1.
Off Topic: Does Mitt have six-year-olds running his presidential campaign?
40.
Paula
I’m not a hater of the 1-1 draw. It just makes me extra excited for the last concurrent matches when almost everybody’s gonna be desperate for a win.
41.
Mike E
Who wudda thunk the plum brandy drinkers would be on top of the group?
42.
pseudonymous in nc
Croatia deserved at least a point; Italy probably did enough in the first half to deserve theirs, so a fair result.
It probably reduces the Irish to the spoiler role, but they’ve won in the past against both Spain and Italy, albeit with better sides. If Spain do the job later today, it sets up an intriguing last set of matches, where neither Spain and Croatia can settle for a point.
And like EVERY TIME I post anything political, some right winger comes in screaming about MSNBC and HuffPo. I don’t read either and I don’t watch the former. EVERY TIME.
…
I can only guess this is what the Dittoheads are being told to think. I let loose a bit with “Who the fuck said anything about MSNBC”
I have an uncle on facebook who’s like that. Except in his case, the whining is more generally confined to “intellectual elites.” Doesn’t matter how completely irrelevant it is to what you’re posting.
44.
Raven
e@Paula: This is where the sport loses me, you should be “desperate for a win” at all times.
45.
Raven
@Chris: That is what the “unfriend” button is for.
Oh, that’s probably where it’ll end. I’m just somewhat more inclined to ignore/tolerate the shenanigans of relatives than other people, just in the interests of not having a stink at the next family reunion.
ETA: and it rarely happens to me, usually to mutual acquaintances.
47.
Amir Khalid
We should be getting the Republic of Oireland vs Kingdom of Spain open thread any moment now, yes?
48.
Raven
@Chris: I hear ya. I have a SIL that is a fucking pig, big Sheriff Joe fan. I unassed her most ricky tic and, since she loathes the entire family, I don’t worry much about seeing her.
49.
Amir Khalid
They do pretty good snark at the BBC liveblog:
You’ll notice there that Spain coach Vicente Del Bosque includes Fernando Torres in his starting line-up for the game, leaving out Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas. Harsh on the Barcelona man, who scored their equaliser against Italy. However, it does mean Spain have a recognised striker in their line-up…. Oh now, come on, don’t be mean, of course he’s a recognised striker. Honestly, you people.
Given that the point of the scene is that Joffrey is a sadistic little fuck who executes people on a whim, I’m not quite sure what the supposed anti-Bush “political statement” would be.
You’ll get that soon enough. But think about the NBA/NHL regular season, where every game now ends in W/L, but enough teams make it to the playoffs for an individual win not to count as much. A deserving draw, I think, is often more satisfying than the hinky mechanisms that get invoked to produce a win or loss.
53.
Amir Khalid
@Mnemosyne:
No matter how much he deserves it, one must never depict a former president’s head on a pike. That’s just uncivil.
President speaking live there but link is recognized as spam :(
57.
handsmile
Running up the score against Ireland (the resulting goal differential) would seem to be the way to advance out of this Group.
This would be the case if Italy beats Ireland on Monday, and Croatia and Spain play to a draw. (I’m stipulating also a Spanish victory later today.) In proper BJ fashion, it would be irresponsible not to speculate….
Oh and since this appears to be an Open Thread, let me underscore Raven’s oblique comment above (#35): Egypt is about to explode.
Well, if you see the picture, it’s pretty hard to tell that it’s even Bush unless you’re looking for it. Either that, or Bush grew an unruly mane worthy of an 80s metal band after retirement and no one told me about it.
@Chris: It’s unreal. She is of Portuguese extraction and their kids are pretty brown. I don’t wish it on anyone but it would be interesting to see THEM rousted for being suspicious.
I suspect it would go pretty much like the backlash against TSA screenings: a white-hot fury boiling down to “how DARE you question our status as good citizens!” followed immediately by “you should be going and questioning THESE PEOPLE’s status as good citizens! Can’t you see their skin’s darker than mine?”
And reporters waiting around the venue of President Obama’s event were greeted by a Romney campaign bus circling the venue and volubly honking its horn, something you’d expect a rival wrestling team to do to disrupt the other team’s pep talk.
Josh calls it smart politics; I think he’s high; this kind of stuff is what betas think they need to do to look like an alpha male, and it shows.
I don’t get the “smart politics” part, either. It’s not like voters in the middle are going to be enthralled by Romney dropping the n-bomb during a debate or something.
Given how easily Romney gets rattled when an event doesn’t go his way, this seems like a very risky strategy for them to take, because it’s far more likely that Romney would be rattled by Obama’s response to any shenanigans than the other way around.
65.
Ben Franklin
11:40 AM PT: At times, this speech is a repudiation of Mitt Romney’s nonstop pattern of lies. Romney in every speech says Obama opposes using any fossil fuels whatsoever. Obama responds that of course he we need to use fossil fuels, pointing out that there has never been more oil drilling than there is now. But we can’t depend on them forever. We also need alternative energy sources. We can’t afford to not innovate. “Why would we reverse our commitment” to innovation “when it’s never been more important?”
Obama better put on his waffle-stompers pretty danged quick. The ‘soft-sell’ isn’t penetrating LIV’s. Get yer fuckin’ MoJo on, Barack.
Chris
Three cheers for whoever’s playing against Italy.
flukebucket
Paški sir? No thank you ma’am. I will take gorgonzola because it sounds more like beans.
Piratedan
one thing I can say about those Italians, for soccer players they are excellent actors. The way that they fall would make you believe that there are snipers in the stands.
Yutsano
Gorgonzola FTW!
And just looking at your choices, are you obsessed with mold inoculated cheeses Randinho?
the Conster
@Piratedan:
Obligatory Italian team practice video
Raven
Tiger is in the lead at Olympic.
LGRooney
Half the paski sir in Croatia is made from sheep stock I helped bring from Western Europe (various sources) just as much of the prsut (their version, which is better than the Italian prosciutto for my tastes) is from pigs I helped bring in from Netherlands back in the early 00s.
So, knowing the source, I’ll go with paski although I would like to see Pirlo go out with a bang.
LGRooney
@Raven: Go away. We’re talking sport here, not games.
Yutsano
@LGRooney: War recovery assistance? And good on you sir!
Piratedan
@the Conster: that is hilarious! I shouldn’t rag specifically on the Italians, a lot of teams do this nowadays and the hard part is, how do you KNOW when someone is faking. Plus if you determine that someone is faking, how do you penalize them. I know we all get stingers and with the help of our own adrenalin can block and mask pain…. but some of these guys…. well they make the game less enjoyable imho.
LGRooney
@Yutsano: Yeah, it was all USAID work. I was only there for 14 months before going on to Montenegro for 3 years.
Linnaeus
@Chris:
I’ll sign on to this.
LGRooney
And 1-0, Pirlo.
Amir Khalid
And Pirlo’s free kick has Italy up 1 – 0.
Mike E
Crow Otts, Yo.
Randinho
@Yutsano: Not obsessed, just a fan. You’ll see some different options later.
Raven
@LGRooney: Yea, that’s why the chit chat is all about cheese.
LGRooney
@Raven: Geographically-relevant cheese.
Napoleon
Being that I am of Croatia extract I will go with them.
Raven
@LGRooney: I see the “game” bumped the sport off of ESPN!
Ben Franklin
Don’t know if anyone has posted this subject, but I cannot resist.
In the strangest cameo of the year, George W. Bush’s (fake) severed head made an unexpected appearance on Game of Thrones.
The prop head, which was mostly covered with a long wig, was shown decapitated and displayed on a stake during the HBO drama’s first season finale. This little easter egg can be spotted when the sadistic King Joffrey (Jack Gleeson) forced Sansa Stark (Sophie Tuner) to see her own father among a series of severed heads displayed for the citizens of King’s Landing. Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss pointed out the inappropriate prop during an episode commentary for the Season 1 DVD.
Game of Thrones’ Alfie Allen Addresses Theon’s Fate, Wants Free Brothels for All
“The last head on the left is George Bush,” the creators said. “George Bush’s head appears in a couple of beheading scenes. It’s not a choice, it’s not a political statement. We just had to use whatever heads we had lying around.”
Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/ae/tv/tvguide/article/HBO-Apologizes-for-Decapitating-George-W-Bush-on-3634064.php#ixzz1xmu5xJCW
rlrr
@Ben Franklin:
it’s not a political statement. We just had to use whatever heads we had lying around.”
It’s not like George W. Bush was using it.
Faux Rage Over _Game of Thrones_
Amir Khalid
@Ben Franklin:
Don’t you just hate it when the props department is too cheap to pay for the real thing?
LGRooney
@Raven: Regular ESPN watchers’ eyes got tired of seeing so much activity, probably, so the complaints drove them to remove the athletic stuff for golf.
Ben Franklin
@Amir Khalid:
@rlrr:
They have heads just lying around? Bain would have auctioned it off.
Raven
@LGRooney: Yea, guys rolling around grabbing their ankles after falling to the ground screaming in pain is compelling.
rlrr
@Ben Franklin:
They must have acquired the head from the animatronic George W. Bush that appeared in the 2004 Presidential debates.
LGRooney
@Raven: You’re serious? You’re watching golf!!
Raven
@LGRooney: Both. Olympic is an incredibly hard course and they have Tiger, Phil and Bubba
in the same group and are showing every shot.
gex
Just had this exchange.
My friend posted something from Breitbart. So I cautioned them to check and make sure that there aren’t important omissions (such as in the Shirley Sherrod incident) before deciding on it.
It was certainly a tame comment I thought. It certainly doesn’t reflect my complete feelings on the lying evil MFs approach to politics.
And like EVERY TIME I post anything political, some right winger comes in screaming about MSNBC and HuffPo. I don’t read either and I don’t watch the former. EVERY TIME.
I can only guess this is what the Dittoheads are being told to think. I let loose a bit with “Who the fuck said anything about MSNBC” and “Actually, I do love the irony of being told off for asking someone to simply confirm what they read on a highly partisan site by someone who has categorically decided anything from MSNBC and HuffPo is, not only questionable, but definitively false.”
The scope of people who act like this, the age range in particular, is just upsetting to me. The tribal, limbic brain mode of GOP tribalism just cannnot be resisted by our monkey brains. I questioned someone on their side, and THAT.IS.IT! Attack!
That these pawns yammer on and on about freedom is just the icing on the cake. MUST.NOT.QUESTION. DO.AS.INSTRUCTED. FREEDOM!
Raven
Nice shot!
Soonergrunt
“Sir” Allen Stanford sentenced to 110 years in prison without parole for fraud.
LINK
Amir Khalid
Itaaly pay the price for sitting on their lead: Croatia equalize, through Mario Mandzukic.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid: If one is not vigilant, one can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Raven
And the balloon is about to go up in Egypt!
gex
And my other OT: NOM for Brachiator who got pissy when I complained that NOM is largely backed by the Catholic Church.
Punchy
What would Sully say about another tie in this tourney?
Ksmiami
@Napoleon: Me too – still have cousins in zagreb and the adriatic
Amir Khalid
The match goes into injury time, with the teams level at 1 – 1.
Off Topic: Does Mitt have six-year-olds running his presidential campaign?
Paula
I’m not a hater of the 1-1 draw. It just makes me extra excited for the last concurrent matches when almost everybody’s gonna be desperate for a win.
Mike E
Who wudda thunk the plum brandy drinkers would be on top of the group?
pseudonymous in nc
Croatia deserved at least a point; Italy probably did enough in the first half to deserve theirs, so a fair result.
It probably reduces the Irish to the spoiler role, but they’ve won in the past against both Spain and Italy, albeit with better sides. If Spain do the job later today, it sets up an intriguing last set of matches, where neither Spain and Croatia can settle for a point.
Chris
@gex:
I have an uncle on facebook who’s like that. Except in his case, the whining is more generally confined to “intellectual elites.” Doesn’t matter how completely irrelevant it is to what you’re posting.
Raven
e@Paula: This is where the sport loses me, you should be “desperate for a win” at all times.
Raven
@Chris: That is what the “unfriend” button is for.
Chris
@Raven:
Oh, that’s probably where it’ll end. I’m just somewhat more inclined to ignore/tolerate the shenanigans of relatives than other people, just in the interests of not having a stink at the next family reunion.
ETA: and it rarely happens to me, usually to mutual acquaintances.
Amir Khalid
We should be getting the Republic of Oireland vs Kingdom of Spain open thread any moment now, yes?
Raven
@Chris: I hear ya. I have a SIL that is a fucking pig, big Sheriff Joe fan. I unassed her most ricky tic and, since she loathes the entire family, I don’t worry much about seeing her.
Amir Khalid
They do pretty good snark at the BBC liveblog:
Mnemosyne
@rlrr:
Given that the point of the scene is that Joffrey is a sadistic little fuck who executes people on a whim, I’m not quite sure what the supposed anti-Bush “political statement” would be.
Chris
@Raven:
Oh, man. In my case I’ve seen pro-Romney and pro-Herman Cain crap, but I have yet to see him stoop as low as Sheriff Joe. My commiserations.
pseudonymous in nc
@Raven:
You’ll get that soon enough. But think about the NBA/NHL regular season, where every game now ends in W/L, but enough teams make it to the playoffs for an individual win not to count as much. A deserving draw, I think, is often more satisfying than the hinky mechanisms that get invoked to produce a win or loss.
Amir Khalid
@Mnemosyne:
No matter how much he deserves it, one must never depict a former president’s head on a pike. That’s just uncivil.
karen marie
Is Cleveland a bad word?
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid: Shrill, even.
karen marie
President speaking live there but link is recognized as spam :(
handsmile
Running up the score against Ireland (the resulting goal differential) would seem to be the way to advance out of this Group.
This would be the case if Italy beats Ireland on Monday, and Croatia and Spain play to a draw. (I’m stipulating also a Spanish victory later today.) In proper BJ fashion, it would be irresponsible not to speculate….
Oh and since this appears to be an Open Thread, let me underscore Raven’s oblique comment above (#35): Egypt is about to explode.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/jun/14/syria-crisis-war-crimes-evidence-live
The US intervening in the Syrian civil war would be such a great idea!
Mnemosyne
@Amir Khalid:
Well, if you see the picture, it’s pretty hard to tell that it’s even Bush unless you’re looking for it. Either that, or Bush grew an unruly mane worthy of an 80s metal band after retirement and no one told me about it.
rlrr
@karen marie:
Only when followed by steamer.
Raven
@pseudonymous in nc: Fair enough.
Raven
@Chris: It’s unreal. She is of Portuguese extraction and their kids are pretty brown. I don’t wish it on anyone but it would be interesting to see THEM rousted for being suspicious.
Chris
@Raven:
I suspect it would go pretty much like the backlash against TSA screenings: a white-hot fury boiling down to “how DARE you question our status as good citizens!” followed immediately by “you should be going and questioning THESE PEOPLE’s status as good citizens! Can’t you see their skin’s darker than mine?”
4tehlulz
Romney has gone full douchebag.
Josh calls it smart politics; I think he’s high; this kind of stuff is what betas think they need to do to look like an alpha male, and it shows.
Mnemosyne
@4tehlulz:
I don’t get the “smart politics” part, either. It’s not like voters in the middle are going to be enthralled by Romney dropping the n-bomb during a debate or something.
Given how easily Romney gets rattled when an event doesn’t go his way, this seems like a very risky strategy for them to take, because it’s far more likely that Romney would be rattled by Obama’s response to any shenanigans than the other way around.
Ben Franklin
11:40 AM PT: At times, this speech is a repudiation of Mitt Romney’s nonstop pattern of lies. Romney in every speech says Obama opposes using any fossil fuels whatsoever. Obama responds that of course he we need to use fossil fuels, pointing out that there has never been more oil drilling than there is now. But we can’t depend on them forever. We also need alternative energy sources. We can’t afford to not innovate. “Why would we reverse our commitment” to innovation “when it’s never been more important?”
Obama better put on his waffle-stompers pretty danged quick. The ‘soft-sell’ isn’t penetrating LIV’s. Get yer fuckin’ MoJo on, Barack.
Elizabelle
@Amir Khalid:
I wish the Obama supporters had gone out and trapped that bus in the parking lot.
Something that big has even less room to maneuver than its slippery candidate.
Would be great if the bus got delayed on its appointed rounds because someone sent it on this fool’s mission.