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RNC Open Thread, Lyin’ Paul Ryan Edition

by John Cole|  August 29, 20127:57 pm| 344 Comments

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Not watching. It’s not fucking epistemic closure to get sick and tired of hearing the same lies told over and over again.

Looking like some Property Brothers, Restaurant Impossible, and maybe a Downton Abbey episode. That’s how I roll.

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  1. 1.

    fordpowers

    August 29, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Damn it.
    Where can I find Season 2 of Downton Abbey to watch..
    Its all I want.

  2. 2.

    Dream On

    August 29, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Best not to watch – the serious policy wonk Paul Ryan may try to hypnotize you with those creepy “pray at my fish fry” eyes.

  3. 3.

    D0n Camillo

    August 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Do you have Hulu Plus? If so, “Line of Duty” is looking pretty awesome so far.

  4. 4.

    JWL

    August 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    I know what you’re talking about. Most everyone with a pulse that feeds their brain knows. I haven’t been able to stomach any of it since November 1980.

  5. 5.

    var

    August 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    It’s not epistemic closure. Epistemic closure means you aren’t able to hear new facts or argument because you aren’t listening to those outside your circle. Republicans haven’t put forward any new facts or had new arguments in 30 odd years. Buncha zombies, z’all.

  6. 6.

    Mustang Bobby

    August 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    I TiVo’d Seven Days in May from TCM last night. If I’m going to watch a story about a right-wing take-over of the country, it might as well have good actors (Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Ava Gardner, and Fredric March) and a good script (Rod Serling) instead of those asshats in Tampa with a script written by Briebart’s ghostwriters.

  7. 7.

    Chris

    August 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Since we’re back to movies – sorry people, but I actually did enjoy Godfather 3 quite a bit. Not for the characters, though, chiefly for all the references to real world scandals (Propaganda Due, John Paul I, etc). And more generally the move up from regular organized crime into the “political criminal nexus,” something the first two movies only hinted at (the book was more explicit).

    As for Ryan, word up. There’s nothing he has to say that’s either gonna be true or new. Why bother?

  8. 8.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    The various liveblogs are very funny, the actual convention not so much.

  9. 9.

    ruemara

    August 29, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    WoW. All my toons need to be re-glyphed and I need to figure out how to be decent again. Way more reality in WoW than coming from Paul Ryan.

  10. 10.

    var

    August 29, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @fordpowers: Sorry, you have to download on iTunes. No free stuff w/o British IP address. Tried.

  11. 11.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @beltane:

    Which would you recommend?

  12. 12.

    pseudonymous in nc

    August 29, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Watch the Paralympics opening ceremony. You’ll be able to fast-forward through the parade, and the actual ceremonial bits are spectacular, daring and memorable. The exact fucking opposite of the RNC.

    NBC ain’t going to show a second of it.

  13. 13.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 29, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    I have half heartedly been watching the coverage on MSNBC while watching episodes of Whitechapel on youtube. I have to admit that I get all sorts of tingly feelings while watching Rupert Penry Jones which is strange because I am not that into blondes.

  14. 14.

    mai naem

    August 29, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    John McCain looks dangerously old. I don’t think he could win another term. Hope he retires. He’s getting that waxy kind of skin super old farts get.

    And, oh yeah, this is excellent news for John McCain!

  15. 15.

    Chris

    August 29, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @Mustang Bobby:

    Oh, that one’s a classic. Well chosen.

  16. 16.

    Paul W.

    August 29, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    I can’t stand to watch Republican speeches to the base anymore, they’re so full of lies that you just want to tear your hair out.

    Can someone explain the premise of Downtown Abbey to me? I keep seeing praises lobbed at it but know nothing else about it.

  17. 17.

    jo6pac

    August 29, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Watched last night it was a whole lot of hate and white people, amazing. I’ll pass on the rest I think I’ll watch an old Buffy and pretend she is staking the Bat-Shit-Crazy-Peoples-Party-Members.

  18. 18.

    Original Lee

    August 29, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    My seventh-grader is required to watch 15 minutes of the convention tonight as homework. He is doing his other homework now, but as soon as he is done, we will turn on MSNBC, or possibly C-Span. I am not looking forward to this.

    That said, he watched about half an hour of Tweety at the convention, followed by Al Sharpton on PoliticsNation, as he was surfing the TV listings for the proper channel for his required viewing. He told me approvingly later, “That was good. Lots of FACTS.” So I must be doing something right.

  19. 19.

    gbear

    August 29, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    @beltane: Which liveblogs are you following? I’ve been checking in with LGF now and then but haven’t seen anyone else bothering with it.

  20. 20.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    He’s a good actor.

  21. 21.

    abo gato

    August 29, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Watching the movie “The Big Year” on HBO on demand. I read the book and have been wanting to see the movie. We like to say we are nerders, not birders.

  22. 22.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @Paul W.:

    It’s another version of the concept of “Upstairs, Downstairs,” which was a popular series in the 1970s, where you get the story of the aristocrats upstairs but you also get involved in the lives of the servants downstairs. It’s set on a country estate starting in 1912 and moving through WWI (at least that’s as far as the second season got). It’s very high quality soap opera with impeccable acting and production values.

  23. 23.

    Lord Jesus Perm

    August 29, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Oh God, John McCan’t just tried to convince the crowd that we should invade like 18 Middle Eastern countries (ok, only 5 of them, guys).

    Infinitely grateful that he wasn’t elected President.

  24. 24.

    Maude

    August 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    This is a boring convention.
    I hope the Dem convention is fun.
    The Republican Party is splintered and that is showing up nicely.
    We could see how many more voters they lose before it’s over.
    Rudy 9/11 said that the election is between Mr. Cool and Mr. Competent. Who’s who?
    The Ice Man is Romney and he doesn’t sound competent.
    Romney is vague about what he would do as prez. Not one detailed example about how to get from point A to point B.
    How does he get all those energy jobs into place?
    How does he fix the economy.
    Christie wants people to suffer because of what Wall Street did. Yeah, that’s a real winner.

  25. 25.

    var

    August 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    @Paul W.: The premise is kind of like the modern Republican party – the rich are really cool and interesting and deserve their wealth, and the dirty little people can get by with very little and be happy. Still pretty good, though. Also, too Upstairs Downstairs.

  26. 26.

    ? Martin

    August 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    But Ryan will tell us that ‘He built this’. Referring to Romney, of course. In his basement. With a soldering iron.

  27. 27.

    JenJen

    August 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    I can’t believe this day has finally come, but I do believe Sarah Palin has finally outlived her usefulness even to Fox News. She’s expired.

    Fox News Responds To Sarah Palin’s Facebook Post On Cancelled Fox Appearances

    Mark this day on your calendars. It’s historic!! Peak Palin has passed!

  28. 28.

    Dream On

    August 29, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @Original Lee: So if your kid is required to watch 15 minutes of the convention, I suppose that fulfills the 15 Minute Compulsory Propaganda-Watching requirement from his school. That kid will NEVER get those 15 minutes back. Damn you GOP!

  29. 29.

    Hill Dweller

    August 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    The Democratic Party is by no means perfect, but the Republican Party is morally and intellectually bankrupt.

  30. 30.

    JPL

    August 29, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    @gogol’s wife: Absolutely correct but it was also the start of the industrial age and the women’s movement.

  31. 31.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @gbear: @gogol’s wife: I’m following the Wonkette liveblog. Their potty-mouthed commenters treat the RNC with all the dignity they are due.

  32. 32.

    Original Lee

    August 29, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @Dream On: He also has to watch 15 minutes of the Democratic Party convention later on. I have been informed by a full-metal wingnut parent at the school that the social studies teacher is in the tank for Obama, even though she tries to be impartial. I suppose equal time counts as dangerously liberal, although perhaps it’s the presidential candidate bobbleheads that really get this parent’s dander up.

  33. 33.

    Water balloon

    August 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I’m watching Santorum being interviewed on PBS right now. He’s basically saying he doesn’t think Mitt can win because he’s too awkward and unrelatable, comparing him to Gore and Dukakis. Also, he himself is unable to say anything particularly nice about Mitt.

  34. 34.

    Water balloon

    August 29, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Santorum is being weirdly honest, describing himself as being too angry and petulant, his words, during the primaries. Also apparently the convention is already becoming a failure and Mitt is running out of time to make a good impression.

  35. 35.

    Chris

    August 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @Maude:

    It’s splintering but the fractures are more blurred this time, or is it just me?

    In 2008 everyone had a niche; Huckabee had the religious right, Romney had big business, McCain had the moderates, Giuliani had the neocons, Tancredo had the anti-immigrants, Ron Paul had the libertarians…

    In 2012 there was none of that, everyone just competed for the same deranged base, which didn’t even have anything coherent other than “we want the black Muslim gone.” I’m not sure what the factions in today’s GOP are.

  36. 36.

    maven

    August 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Kos liveblog was fun last night. Seemed many cocktails were consumed which caused Much Pithy Snark.

  37. 37.

    gbear

    August 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    I just discovered that Maddow’s Blog is running a live feed of the convention. I watched 5 minuted of it and now I feel itchy all over.

  38. 38.

    gbear

    August 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    I just discovered that Maddow’s Blog is running a live feed of the convention. I watched 5 minuted of it and now I feel itchy all over.

  39. 39.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    August 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Water balloon: Santorum complaining someone else is “awkward” is funny as hell.

  40. 40.

    4jkb4ia

    August 29, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    If you would have thought that the USTA would not want to put Maria Sharapova in an absolutely uncompetitive match up yet again, you would have thought wrong. Sharapova has just won, having lost all of one game. We could have seen Lepchenko tonight! (Although that wasn’t much of a match either)

    I was too lazy to go to C-SPAN radio, but I am going to do it now. You know what the lies are but the question is how they are presented. Sully had an excellent line that Christie was describing a Republican Party that doesn’t exist.

  41. 41.

    Linda Featheringill

    August 29, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @Paul W.:

    Downton Abbey:

    Do you remember “Upstairs, Downstairs”? It’s sort of like that. A study of the class structure in England. Between the wars, I think.

    Very well done, of course.

  42. 42.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Paul W.:

    Short version: it’s sort of like an updated/rebooted Upstairs, Downstairs.

    ETA: It’s Downton Abbey, unless you think that other series is called Foley’s War, in which case carry on.

  43. 43.

    maya

    August 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @JenJen:
    Even money has it that Palin is the Mystery guest speaker tomorrow night. Also even money on it being Clint Eastwood recreating his “do you feel lucky, punk?” line.

  44. 44.

    scav

    August 29, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @maya: Seriously, they’ll go for someone that might just out leg-tingle not just their candidate but mrs candidate and mr candidate brainy blue-eyed sidekick?

  45. 45.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @maya: There was also a rumor that Rush Limbaugh will be the big surprise but I don’t think the FSM loves us enough for that.

  46. 46.

    JenJen

    August 29, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    @maya: I’m still going with Clint Eastwood as the Mystery Date.

    I like Clint, but I’m still not voting for Romney.

  47. 47.

    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    August 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @JenJen: Peak Palin? Which of her kids is that one?

  48. 48.

    skippy

    August 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    for mrs. skippy and me, it’s the second to last episode of the oringinal inspecot barnaby in midsomer murders. also of interest from the bbc: new tricks, about a squad of retired police trying to close cold cases. great humor.

    tomorrow night: first episode of season 2 of boardwalk empire. and i’m halfway thru ep. one of homeland

    netflix by mail is still the best bet formyour entertainment dollar.

  49. 49.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Tried to watch a little bit of the PBS coverage a while ago, saw Rick Santorum sitting next to David Brooks and said, “No, no, no, no, no.” I’ve got the pointless Buccaneers-Redskins game on in the background, thinking about what to have for a late dinner. Maybe whittle away at the gigantic DVR backlog later.

    Oh, by the way . . .

    DVR Alert!

    Casablanca is on TCM at 10:00 p.m. EDT tonight.

    They’ve been doing Ingrid Bergman today, and it will be followed by Joan of Arc (1948), Jean Renoir’s Elena and Her Men (1956) and Ingmar Bergman’s Autumn Sonata (1978).

  50. 50.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    I’m about done for watching this garbage myself. I might look a bit at Ryan with those wingnut baby blues telling us with feeling, that he really does not like selling us down the corporate river, and regulating the national uterus, but it has to be done to save the realm. He and Walker seem to be cut from the same sociopath cloth in that regard. They are doing you a favor sucking up to the Koch brothers, cause it will be those corndog fuckers along with baby jeevus, that brings back Cary Grant and white picket fences, so we can finally drive this progressive shit into the sea.

    A note. Scanning the polls again today, and it is remarkable how little they move. No No it REALLY is remarkable, and it’s by and large been that way since Bush’s 5th year of misanthropy. Right after his whirlwind tour of Catfood part uno.

    With Obama ahead just by a few points in enough states to win again. This is good and bad news, the bad news is we are gathering in tribal camps for gawd noes what comes next, but for now it is good news we are ahead. And handful of swing voters will decide our fate, munching cotton candy at the local Carnival, feeding empty calories to empty minds. It is a big reason elections are like Mr. Magoo meets Bugs Bunny on the field of cartoon battle.

  51. 51.

    MikeJ

    August 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    I have seasons one, two, and three of Misfits sitting on a USB stick ready to be plugged into the tv.

    I also have some scallops, angel hair pasta, pesto, and gin.

  52. 52.

    skippy

    August 29, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    uh, that would be inspector barnaby…

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Water balloon:

    Santorum is being weirdly honest, describing himself as being too angry and petulant, his words, during the primaries.

    What a snob.
    If Santorum ever told a joke, I’d die of instartlement. What a bloodless fuck.

  54. 54.

    Dream On

    August 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    And here I was, foolishly thinking the Mystery Guest Speaker tomorrow night would be Cthulu. Perhaps it will be something far far worse, a horror whose name cannot be spoke. Is Gallagher out of the hospital?

    Since I am a lazybones and don’t like getting my mail stolen, Netflix streaming still works for me. It helps that I like BBC, foreign and documentary, as I admit their selection of Big movies (especially recent ones) is pretty lacking.

  55. 55.

    workworkwork

    August 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Ever since we cut the cable last week, we no longer have to deal with CNN, FoxNews, etc.

    This week we’re making full use of our AppleTV – iTunes season passes (Homeland S1 just downloaded on Monday), Netflix and Hulu+, not to mention our collection of DVDs and BluRays.

    My poor wife gets enough of this junk with daytime TV while I’m at work.

  56. 56.

    quannlace

    August 29, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    What, no love for Top Chef Masters? They’re doing a thai competition tonight.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @beltane:
    New drinking game: flask of Jager every time Rush calls somebody a slut. Two flasks when the slut is a dude.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 29, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @Paul W.:

    I can’t stand to watch Republican speeches to the base anymore, they’re so full of lies that you just want to tear your hair liver out.

    All those drinking games are taking their toll.

  59. 59.

    Darkrose

    August 29, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Working late shift tonight, so I’ll be listening to the ballgame unless someone calls.

  60. 60.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    The GOS liveblog is actually very funny tonight. The convention sounds like a snoozefest punctuated by bouts of delusional rantings. The red parts of this country will need decades of deprogramming before they are capable of participating in a civil society.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    August 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    I just watched episode 7 of Newsroom and although I still haven’t warmed up to the cast, that episode was great.
    The news crew is called back to work on May 1, 2011 after much partying to await the Presidents announcement on OBL. At the end while credits were rolling, they replayed the first few minutes of the President’s speech and it still gives me goosebumps. I really hope they play the entire nine minutes of the speech at the Convention.

  62. 62.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @trollhattan: Are you trying to kill us all? Before we vote for Obama in November?

  63. 63.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @beltane:
    Have to admit, it’s easier than a nickel per post like our resident paid trolls. :-)

    Also, too, it’s TBogg’s fault. No human could survive participating in the AnnRomneybot(tm) drinking game.

  64. 64.

    JenJen

    August 29, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @Tara the Antisocial Social Worker: LMFAO

    @JPL: I loved that episode of The Newsroom. I think I might have even teared up a little when they told the pilot and flight attendant. Excellent episode. And the fact that Will was high as a kite during the broadcast was a hilarious touch; some say they were eluding to CNN’s John King, who was also a little tanked that night!

  65. 65.

    Anoniminous

    August 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    GOP convention is like watching paint dry while listening to Barry Manlow’s I Write the Songs That Make the Whole World Hurl Sing on continuous repeat.

  66. 66.

    scav

    August 29, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @JenJen: “eluding to CNN’s John King (etc etc)” Has time travel become that prevalent? Also, I’m assuming you need to shake your fix at auto-correct, because the meaning of that sentence technically escapes me.

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Her centennial in three years is going to be a joy.

    Check out Roger Ebert’s Facebook feed. He posted an iconic closeup of her (a still from Casablanca) that 70 years later is still breathtakingly lovely.

  68. 68.

    Jeffro

    August 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    I just realized, some significant part of the country is like, “Romney/Ryan couldn’t be all that bad, there ain’t that much left to destroy at this point”…

    …and they are so, so wrong.

  69. 69.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    I’m sure someone mentioned that Obama did a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) today and spiked traffic so much it shut down the site. Why hasn’t that been front-paged?

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I red a little of that. Loves me some President Obama!

  71. 71.

    Reasonable 4ce

    August 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    As for me, I’m watching the Mets try to beat the Phillies. Then it’s Here Comes Honey Boo Boo on TLC at 10:00. Then it’s softcore pr0n on Cinemax. Good times.

  72. 72.

    Linda Featheringill

    August 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    For the cable TV free folks:

    I offer for your consideration Watch Series Online:

    watchseries.eu/

    I found the setup a wee bit alien but they have tons of shows.

  73. 73.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    By the way, AWS, this is off topic but here you are. How is the lovely Lady Smudge, and when might we hope to see some recent photos of her?

  74. 74.

    pragmatism

    August 29, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: i liked gawker’s headline on Obama’s Reddit AMA: Obama Grants Interview to Racist Teen Nude Picture Website.

  75. 75.

    MikeJ

    August 29, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Because reddit is a place for misogynist assholes to hang out? Second only to 4chan for “bitch, make me a sandwich” jokes, and it’s more forgivable (or at least ignorable) with btards. Seriously, fuck reddit.

  76. 76.

    Tom Q

    August 29, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Mustang Bobby: By coincidence, that’s exactly the movie I watched on another grim, GOP-friendly night — Election Night 2010. Maybe you’ll find yourself having the same reaction I did — “I can’t believe we’re still fighting off these fools”

  77. 77.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Oh god…Jan Brewer is on MSNBC…I actually want to throw up…

    She said her state is in fear of dem il-legals and then when asked whether or not she would compromise with the Federal government on what to do about the border, went one some tangent about why Reagan was her hero (no joke).

    I just…*sigh*…

  78. 78.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    August 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Watching The Tudors on Netflix, I like that actress playing Anne Boleyn(natalie Dormer) later Alphas On Demand.

  79. 79.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Wow, such reddit hate. I don’t visit the site myself, but the president of the US did today.

  80. 80.

    Mary G

    August 29, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    @jgaugust: I would rather be locked in a room full of people dragging their fingernails across blackboards than listen to that whiny woman’s voice. Ugh.

  81. 81.

    JPL

    August 29, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Jeffro: Yup! When Dan Senor and John Bolton have your ear, you know nothing good can happen.

  82. 82.

    JenJen

    August 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @scav: Yeah, sorry. There isn’t enough bourbon in the world to help me through the RNC, so you’ll have to forgive my typo.

  83. 83.

    noodler

    August 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Dig the Downton Abbey. it’s on amazon prime,
    Season 3 in airs in January.

  84. 84.

    JPL

    August 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @jgaugust: Is she sober?

  85. 85.

    Palli

    August 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    I still think we should demand Ryan’s pay studs from McDonalds when he was the a teen!

  86. 86.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    they offer nothing at all.

    but something like half the country thinks they do.

    it’s a problem.

  87. 87.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    She’s my favoritest, favoritest actress of all time.

    ETA: Along with Irene Dunne.

  88. 88.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    @JPL: She didn’t sound that way. She was standing next to the side of the stage and was just rambling and slightly screaming at the reporter.

    I actually wonder how she hasn’t gotten cancer yet given that her skin literally looks like well-worn leather.

  89. 89.

    smintheus

    August 29, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Shorter Paul Ryan: We face an existential crisis this election because of the deficit, and the only possible way to bring it down is to elect Mitt Romney.

    But neither of those things is so critical critical that the rich should be asked to pay slightly higher taxes, or Mitt to release his taxes. That would be so much worse.

  90. 90.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    @jgaugust:

    Corinthian.

  91. 91.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    I would rather watch reruns of Gossip Girl than watch a minute of the convention.

  92. 92.

    El Cid

    August 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    T-Paw: Barack Obama’s failed us, but that’s understandable — a lot of people fail at their 1st job.

    HAW HAW HAW HAW

  93. 93.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Anyone else here find it kinda odd how much the GOP has been going after Uncle Joe? I’m trying to figure out the strategy here, but can only come up with the idea that they know Obama is going to wipe the floor with MittBot and that they need to knock down the only guy who they think they can defeat. Seems really odd to me.

  94. 94.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Jayzus, TPawl is “revving them up” trying to claim his dad’s work experience. “Dad was a fudgemeatpacker.” Hands not discussed–must not have seen the memo.

  95. 95.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Tpaw is heard from? that’s just sad in itself.

  96. 96.

    Todd

    August 29, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @Mustang Bobby:

    I TiVo’d Seven Days in May from TCM last night. If I’m going to watch a story about a right-wing take-over of the country, it might as well have good actors (Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Ava Gardner, and Fredric March) and a good script (Rod Serling) instead of those asshats in Tampa with a script written by Briebart’s ghostwriters.

    Damn. I paid to rent that off iTunes at 4 am Tuesday (couldn’t sleep after having to euthanize my sweet old dog the morning before). Had I known that, I’d have made another choice.

  97. 97.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    It looks as if I’ll have to rescind my ban on reading Daily Kos for the election season. They have some funny commentary.

  98. 98.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Willard is “smart, gracious and wise.”

    And I’m tritium-powered.

  99. 99.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    God’s holy trousers, it’s Huck.

  100. 100.

    Lojasmo

    August 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Just did the front brake pads and rotors on my passat. Dirty, filthy job, but unlikely as bad as watching that hot mess of a convention.

  101. 101.

    dexwood

    August 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    I’m here. Not watching anything else. Not good at this newfangled, multitasking thing. Sue me, it’s how I roll.

  102. 102.

    dance around in your bones

    August 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    I was watching the RNC today and I started yelling at Cantor on the TV machine (I think he was blabbering about the ‘you didn’t build it BS) and my daughter said “Mom! Think of the neighbors!”

    I have never even HEARD our neighbors except when 1) someone is practicing piano – they are VERY good… or 2) when their kid is playing his music on weekends. (I think he’s a college kid because his musical taste is pretty good).

    So I said, “What the hell? If they hear me cursing at the TV, WTF, Over?”

    Amirite?

  103. 103.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    who the hell is so sad they can be compelled to describe mittens as “gracious.”

  104. 104.

    scav

    August 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @JenJen: Nothing to forgive on my part, you’ll have to forgive me for not being able to resist the silly “meaning escapes me” comment. On the upside, it prompted me to go play with definitions and roots — I didn’t even know one could use illude as a verb, so technically, thanks for a whole new word to play with.

  105. 105.

    ? Martin

    August 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @jgaugust: I think it’s just a security measure to make nobody goes off TelePrompTer and drops an n-bomb..

  106. 106.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    “America was an experiment where all of us are considered equal” – Mike Huckabee, 1 minute ago.

    HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR FUCKING PLATFORM!?!!?

  107. 107.

    Eric Lindholm

    August 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Really, John? [expletive] epistemic closure? As in rejecting an alternate viewpoint, despite the evidence?

    I also can’t believe the lies: claiming unemployment is at 8.3%, the national debt has topped $16 trillion, this is the worst “recovery” ever, record food stamps, and record gas prices?

    Math is hard.

  108. 108.

    Maude

    August 29, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @gogol’s wife:
    Irene Dunne, The Money Tree.

  109. 109.

    lamh35

    August 29, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    that F*(&r Huckabee

    livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/huckabee-debbie-wasserman-schultz-awful-noise

    “Tampa has been such a wonderful and hospitable city to us,” Huckabee joked. “The only hitch in an otherwise perfect week was the awful noise coming from the hotel room next door to mine. Turns out it was just Debbie Wasserman Schultz practicing her speech for the DNC in Charlotte next week. Bless her heart.”

  110. 110.

    Hill Dweller

    August 29, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @Eric Lindholm: Private sector job recovery has been better than the previous two recessions. Unemployment is still high due primarily to austerity at the state level(mostly Republican controlled states). If public sector employment had mirrored the previous three Republican President’s respective first terms, we’d be at around 7% unemployment.

  111. 111.

    Baud

    August 29, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    He can’t hear you.

  112. 112.

    Concerned Citizen

    August 29, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    You’re missing a kick ass 3-3 tie in preseason overtime! Giants vs. Patriots!

  113. 113.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    @jgaugust:

    “us” is very exact where southerners or christians are concerned.

  114. 114.

    Chyron HR

    August 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @Eric Lindholm:

    If you don’t have anything better to do, why don’t you go find a black person to throw peanuts at? That’s how you guys feed “animals”, right?

  115. 115.

    rikyrah

    August 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @Paul W.:

    Can someone explain the premise of Downtown Abbey to me? I keep seeing praises lobbed at it but know nothing else about it

    The life and times of an uppercrust British Family that has an estate- Downton. The woman whose family it is only has daughters, so in order for them to keep it, they need a male heir. the life and times of the rich family, and their servants. I totally got hooked on it one weekend while watching season one on Netflix.

    sorta joined Amazon Prime to get season 2 (there were other reasons, but I shall not lie, getting Downton Abbey was part of it.)

  116. 116.

    dance around in your bones

    August 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    I’m switching over to Casablanca (on TMC) in about…..oh, ten minutes.

    Possibly the last 2 episodes of MI-5 that I haven’t watched yet.

  117. 117.

    Jess Sane

    August 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @Eric Lindholm: You just gotta wonder about someone who describes themselves as a “pundit”, huh?

  118. 118.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 29, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    @Eric Lindholm: I can smell the flop sweat on you from here.

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Huck cites Bono, but neglects to tell us what Bono’s father did for a living. Details man, we need details.

  120. 120.

    Mary G

    August 29, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    The crowd at the convention doesn’t even seem that into it.

  121. 121.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Who are the assholes singing Stevie? Bet Stevie doesn’t approve.

  122. 122.

    Yutsano

    August 29, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @Eric Lindholm: And yet…you’re still losing. What does that tell you about Willard?

    Protip: HE. SUCKS.

  123. 123.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    Holy crap, introducing Condi with “Sweet Home Alabama”?

  124. 124.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Condi took literally 10 words and invoked 9/11. Cannot. Make. This. Shit. Up.

  125. 125.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    No matter how hard I try, I can’t help but loathe her. And hey Condi, tell us WHY those planes hit those buildings? Who didn’t do their job that day?

  126. 126.

    Spectre

    August 29, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    A noun+ a verb+ 9/11

  127. 127.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    it is not possible to like these people.

    will obama run away with this thing?

    remains to be seen, but if not, what is going on with this country?

  128. 128.

    Spectre

    August 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    She’s visibly shaking. Must have forgotten to give her the customary scotch + beta blockers.

  129. 129.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Ooh, Russia and China…where does America stand? New drinking game: one fifth of vodka for each plea to bomb Iran.

  130. 130.

    Spectre

    August 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    “free peoples, and free markets”

    But if there is ever a conflict, I think we know which comes first for these folks at the convention.

  131. 131.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Condi Rice: Worst Person in the World

  132. 132.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    So she’s been speaking for 5 minutes and I honestly don’t know what she is going on about or why this has anything to do with the GOP unless Paul Ryan is going to come out in 15 minutes and explain why on day 1, he and Mittens are going to take their serious thinking and invade another country…

  133. 133.

    Baud

    August 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @jgaugust:

    Condi took literally 10 words and invoked 9/11.

    If only someone would bring the mastermind behind 9/11 to justice…

    Oh wait.

  134. 134.

    Brazilian Rascal

    August 29, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Chhecking over the live-blogging at the Dish is high comedy. It seems Sully is out of the fridge since he was bumped up from the ‘Blogs we Monitor and Mock’ section, but….wow.

    50% of his posts are some form of “I really like Huckabee/Pawlenty/Christie, so I don’t get why they are being such irrational meanies now!”

    The man is either addicted to bullies or fully in denial about his fixation on bullies. Or both.

  135. 135.

    Spectre

    August 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    WAR IS PEACE.

  136. 136.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Your assistant came in and told you a plane hit the tower. Then a second one did. Then the pentagon. Then a PA crash.
    I’ve never hit a woman.

  137. 137.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I have a new metaphor for the Republican party.

    LOS ANGELES — A 100-year-old man backed his car on to a sidewalk and hit 11 people, including nine children, across from an elementary school in South Los Angeles just after classes had ended Wednesday, authorities said.

    sacbee.com/2012/08/29/4769582/8-hurt-when-car-crashes-into-crowd.html

    Lawn, off of get, etc.

  138. 138.

    dance around in your bones

    August 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    So, was Condi the Special Secret Speaker?

    FAIL.

  139. 139.

    geg6

    August 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    @quannlace:

    THIS. Awesome chefs and Dita Von Tease or Paul Ryan? Decisions, decisions.

  140. 140.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    China. Booga-booga-booga.

  141. 141.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    This is Condi-Tron 3000 on stage. She’s spastic. Like the tubes.

  142. 142.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    Yes, Condi, because when the time to make a tough decision came, the President “led from behind” by going into a sovereign nation for a precise strike to kill the world’s most wanted terrorist, even rejecting some of the advice of his generals. He got the job done and the strike was so well planned out that we didn’t lose a single life.

    SHUT. UP. *bangs head on table repeatedly*

  143. 143.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @Spectre: STRENGTH THROUGH PEACE.

  144. 144.

    Todd

    August 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    DVRing Casablanca in HD!!!

  145. 145.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Here’s hoping the gheys throw her skinny ass out and she has to make a living playing piano at the Applebees lounge.

  146. 146.

    dance around in your bones

    August 29, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Ok, Casablanca it is.

    At least I can shed a tear for a legitimate reason.

  147. 147.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Wow. Condi actually said something truthful. Americans are “exceptional” because we have more monies. First actually honest thing I’ve heard at the convention. And how sickening too.

  148. 148.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    This person speaking has no knowledge of American history.

  149. 149.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Long and hard, up and down.
    Wait, is she imagining Bush as her hubby again?

  150. 150.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Shit, did somebody just throw a peanut?

  151. 151.

    rikyrah

    August 29, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    Private sector job recovery has been better than the previous two recessions. Unemployment is still high due primarily to austerity at the state level(mostly Republican controlled states). If public sector employment had mirrored the previous three Republican President’s respective first terms, we’d be at around 7% unemployment.

    \

    then add in the 3 million that would be employed rebuilding our infrastructure in the Jobs Act….and the unemployment rate would probably be under 6%

  152. 152.

    Argive

    August 29, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    @Eric Lindholm:

    Lately, I haven’t heard much about how Romney’s some genius CEO who’ll get America moving because of his mad bidness skillz. I thought that that was going to be the centerpiece of Romney’s campaign, not some BS about welfare. What’s up with that?

  153. 153.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    She just lauded several liebrual tech cities. Yup, we need more of those.

  154. 154.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    This is one crazy bitch.
    There. I said it.

  155. 155.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Okay, revving up to attack union thug teachers and extol vouchers.

  156. 156.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Holy shit! It’s Pinky the Chihuahua giving this speech!

  157. 157.

    Baud

    August 29, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    @Argive:

    Lately, I haven’t heard much about how Romney’s some genius CEO who’ll get America moving because of his mad bidness skillz.

    It’s been put on the list of topics we can’t talk about except in quiet rooms.

  158. 158.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    ***gasps***

  159. 159.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    @Corner Stone: Well played, sir!

  160. 160.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    @Corner Stone: This entire 3-day lineup speaking has no knowledge of American history.

    FTFY

  161. 161.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    follow on attack? You are fucking crazy.

  162. 162.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Condi has a PhD? As Olberman used to say, I want to see some proof.

  163. 163.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    I had no respect for Condi before tonight, so it’s a little weak for me to say. But she should be hounded mercilessly from the public discourse after this travesty tonight.

  164. 164.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    she’s got no DIGNITY, muriel.

  165. 165.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    And a thousand crackers just said, “Say what now?”

  166. 166.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Susana Martinez speaking in Spanish. Sadly, her party’s platform says she shouldn’t be allowed to do that at a political convention because English should be our national language.

  167. 167.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    They must be running late, one speaker right after the other.

  168. 168.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    I hate these people.

  169. 169.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    and never one worth a damn.

  170. 170.

    Violet

    August 29, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Marc Ambinder tweets about Condi:

    Ok, HRC v. Condi in 2016 is on.

    Does Condi really want to run for Pres?

  171. 171.

    1badbaba3

    August 29, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    @jgaugust: Waaa waaa waaa why’d the Black guy kill him? Now we can’t scare everybody with our color codes and perpetual wargasm stiffies. Waaaa.

    Jeez Louise, they really ought to see a doctor about that 9-11 boner they’ve got. It’s lasted way longer than four hours.

    @Brazilian Rascal: If we’re getting into the psychology of Sully’s fascination with bully bears prepare for a 400+ comment thread.

    Have at it you would-be Freuds.

  172. 172.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    @Violet:

    she’s pro-choice, nuff said.

  173. 173.

    pragmatism

    August 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    The 2012 version of a young John Cole from WV.
    Make sure you light that cigar o’keefesquely with a $1 bill. Like a player.
    andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/face-of-the-day-6.html

  174. 174.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Four Legged Furry Rascal

  175. 175.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    @Violet:

    Does Condi really want to run for Pres?

    No. She does not.

  176. 176.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    @Violet: Marc Armbinder must be drunk or high or both. That column Anne Laurie quoted this morning made no sense, and now that tweet? Lay off the Ibogaine, douchebag.

  177. 177.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Your party hates and distrusts those little girls.
    Stop speaking Spanish. They hate that.

  178. 178.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    @General Stuck:

    He should have his own TV show. I would watch it.

    Paul Ryan hasn’t even started speaking yet? I have to go to bed. Big day tomorrow meeting freshmen. I guess I’m glad I don’t know about his “electrifying” speech. I’ll read about it in the Times tomorrow.

  179. 179.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Rock Star(tm) !!

  180. 180.

    Lancelot Link

    August 29, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Condi took literally 10 words and invoked 9/11.
    Nobody could have predicted that.

  181. 181.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    sad, shown up by colin powell who sold most of his integrity a long time ago, but not all of it.

    condi has no soul.

  182. 182.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 29, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    ETA: Along with Irene Dunne

    I know it’s not her best or best known film, but I adore Life With Father.

  183. 183.

    Baud

    August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    Paul Ryan hasn’t even started speaking yet?

    Another major fail. Most of the swing states are in the east.

  184. 184.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Went out to water the flowers and now Eddie Munster is on my TV.

  185. 185.

    Geoduck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Was looking for a list of speakers for the day, and found this:
    gopconvention2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Wednesday1.pdf
    (Warning, PDF file.}

    Line 2: Speakers subject to change
    Line 4: We Can Change It

  186. 186.

    hildebrand

    August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    My ‘fiscally conservative’ brother-in-law just stated on Facebook that he really wishes that Condi had been picked for the VP slot. Then again, he never did pay attention to foreign policy. Or anything else, it seems.

  187. 187.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    I can’t watch. Fuck Ryan. Fucking creepy sociopath.

  188. 188.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    I dont….what…Mitt is ethical and above attacks??????

  189. 189.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    August 29, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Redstaters are fired up and ready to go!

    Mitch McConnell speaking already said “Mitch Ryan”. I am sure this will be a rousing speech. Rousing for the hot dog vendors as all the delegates go to the concession stands for a snack.

    John McCain – delegates get a double dose w/McConnell and McCain in the same night.

    What’s deal with putting folks to sleep before getting to the good people.

    I agree. Just caught the end of it. It was not so good. I was surprised because AG Bondi is so good in interviews and as a commentator. Maybe the tag-team thing threw her off her game.

    Yep. Hope some of their friends made a Starbucks run beforehand. Lots of coffee needed to get through those two speeches.

    where are the exciting speakers? frightenend bunch of republicans cannot even say Barack Obama!

    Rob Portman seems to have about as much charisma as a doorknob… this guy was almost the veep? good lord………..

    Pretty sad.

    When Pawlenty is getting off the best lines of the night; well….it’s not a great lineup.

    Agree with the majority of comments that this convention has been a snoozer. But at least you can take a bathroom break and not miss anything. Heck, you could take a three day cruise and not miss anything. Hopefully tomorrow will be a brighter day.

    I’m enjoying their disgust.

  190. 190.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    @SatanicPanic: No! No. You have to see this. Steele yourself!

  191. 191.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: You are right, I will watch. gaaah, I’m trying. Oh I don’t know. I may give up.

  192. 192.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Joe Biden is going to eat for lunch this pretty boy death dealer

  193. 193.

    Rita R.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    I cannot believe people buy this phony smarminess of Ryan. This is their rock star?? Susanna Martinez was way better. If the GOP is smart, she should be their future, not this goober.

  194. 194.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Sheeeeeeesh. You fucking hack.

  195. 195.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @Lancelot Link:

    Condi took literally 10 words and invoked 9/11.

    You know, if one were a consumate 911-was-an-inside-job-truther theorist, one would be able to surmise that 10 words plus 1 more word is 11. and 9/11 = 9+1+1 = 11.

    The truth is out there.

  196. 196.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    @Rita R.: Susanna Martinez? Did you watch the same disgusting garbage I did?

  197. 197.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    This is pathetic. Bush league. High school debate club level. What a dork.

  198. 198.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    I am loving the way Ryan utters a little soft “hmph” after every one of his talking points.

  199. 199.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    I have the sound turned down and just saw out of the corner of my eye – was there a protester?

  200. 200.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    AAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!

  201. 201.

    jwb

    August 29, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    @Corner Stone: She got hugs and kisses from Twitter tonight. Even the lefties begrudging said the speech was the only intelligent thing that has been on the convention schedule. Faint praise and all, and everyone seems to think she’s setting up 2016, but no one was slamming it as a travesty.

  202. 202.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Was just getting on here to see if anyone noticed that. It’s like a little combo grunt-cough-hmmph. An awful mannerism.

    And I agree with SatanicPanic that his speech would get bounced at the junior high “Leaders of Tomorrow” assembly.

  203. 203.

    amk

    August 29, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: Sweet sweet schadenfreude. The establishment hung a pretender around the collective necks of these morons.

  204. 204.

    Anoniminous

    August 29, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Biden is going to grind Ryan into itsy-bitsy, teenie-weenie, doll shit in the VP debate.

  205. 205.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    OMG he looks like Alfalfa.

  206. 206.

    jwb

    August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    @Corner Stone: Ryan, on the contrary, is getting hacked to pieces on Twitter.

  207. 207.

    Bobby Thomson

    August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    @beltane:

    The red parts of this country will need decades centuries of deprogramming before they are capable of participating in a civil society.

    They’ve already had since Reconstruction.

  208. 208.

    Mary G

    August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Lying liars. I am going to go look under my couch cushions for more pennies to send to Obama’s campaign.

  209. 209.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. What is it with republicans and their ‘special’ flag pins. Paulie’s has a big star over the stripes.

    Why isn’t the American flag good enough for them?

  210. 210.

    Brachiator

    August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    @rikyrah:

    life and times of an uppercrust British Family that has an estate- Downton. The woman whose family it is only has daughters, so in order for them to keep it, they need a male heir. the life and times of the rich family, and their servants.

    And of course, the delicious background to this is that the current aristocrat who is the lord of Downton Abbey had to marry a rich American babe when he was a young man in order to keep his property. This is based on the true stories of the 19th century American oligarchs who pimped their daughters to posh Brits. The daughters got titles. The spendthrift Brit aristocrats got cash.

  211. 211.

    David Koch

    August 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    @Violet:

    Marc Ambinder tweets about Condi: “Ok, HRC v. Condi in 2016 is on.”

    So Ambinder concedes Mittens will lose.

    HA!

  212. 212.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    @jwb: Bullshit. They could not have actually watched her speech.
    There is simply no way.
    I would destroy her at any townhall she had the guts to show up to.

  213. 213.

    jgaugust

    August 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ON THE DOWNGRADING OF THE CREDIT RATING?! Holy fuck I can barely listen to you, you economic-hostage taking piece of shit.

  214. 214.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Weird — I am so relieved! After two really good wind up speeches from Condi Rice and Susana Martinez – strong, effective and generally positive — we have the politics of resentment and anger modeled to effect last night. They will not capture the White House with this guy and definitely not with robo Romney.. Subprime — all resentment and taunt — no vision…

    He undid the positive effect of the last two speeches in one minute…

  215. 215.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Wanna know why our Triple A rating went – look in the mirror lying dipshit.

  216. 216.

    Todd

    August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Watching Casablanca now. Bogart is supposed to be 38, but looks 55. I guess when your hobby is smoking 4 packs a day, you’ll put on a few years.

  217. 217.

    Rita R.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Their policies are all bullshit, but she was likable and had a great backstory and presentation. Not surprised at the Twitter love.

  218. 218.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    This whole evening has been awful. I have forced myself to watch the CBS coverage. Condi got rave reviews for her “soaring rhetoric”? Her speech was only marginally better than Ryan’s.

    McCain was interviewed by Bob Schieffer–God, I can’t believe they have this superannuated ball-washer as their lead convention guy!–and managed to cram an unbelievable amount of bullshit and outright lies into a short amount of time. None of it questioned by Schieffer at all. And Schieffer keeps talking about how everyone in Washington loves Ryan, even the Democrats. WTF?!

  219. 219.

    MikeJ

    August 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    They’ve been doing Ingrid Bergman today,

    I’ve discovered that my gfriend hates it when there’s an Ingrid Bergman movie on and I say, “damn, I’d fuck the shit outta her.”

  220. 220.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    @Steeplejack: He keeps grunting like an elk or something.

  221. 221.

    amk

    August 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Is sully finally lurning ? Seems to be in the acceptance phase.

    Ryan is there and looks a little like the head of the College Republicans. The cowlick and the hair gel complete the crisp, earnest appeal. It’s just that suddenly, looking at him right now, he does not seem like someone who could be president at a moment’s notice. I’ve never really felt that about him before. Maybe having his mom testify for him was a little too much.

  222. 222.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    August 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Had it on mute all night (had better things to do) until Ryan came on.

    I truly, truly hate this man.

    What’s that German word for “a face that needs punching” again?

  223. 223.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    @Todd:

    Bogart in Casablanca is the sexiest man who has ever been or ever will be in the world.

  224. 224.

    pseudonymous in nc

    August 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    @Violet:

    Does Condi really want to run for Pres?

    She’s never run for elected office in her life. She’s never shown any inclination of wanting to run for elected office. 2016 is probably the year when Jebby Jeb JEB! gives it a shot, and perhaps the Outlaw Jersey Whale. In the meanwhile, she gets to do the professoring at Stanford and her high-dollar consulting biz. Na ga happen.

  225. 225.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    You fucking voted against B-S Report you fucking hack bitch motherfucker!

  226. 226.

    1badbaba3

    August 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @SatanicPanic: “Bush league”, how very ironically appropriate.

    Or maybe it’s unironic.

    Inironic?

  227. 227.

    catclub

    August 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    has there been mention here of the LGM presidential knife fight thread?

    Much more appealing than Paul Ryan.

    I may have missed due to Isaac related power outage earlier today.

  228. 228.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    @Elie: The debbie downer act is a loser. This is America (Fuck Yeah!), only a total dumbass wouldn’t know that.

  229. 229.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    @MikeJ: They don’t seem to like that much. Funny, that.

  230. 230.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    He scrunches his lips up like La Palin. Must be a sign of lying.

  231. 231.

    jwb

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Corner Stone: Post-truth, man. What are we going to do about it? We gotta blow these fuckers out of the water this election or it’s going to be hell to pay for the next quarter century.

  232. 232.

    ChrisNYC

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    I like how he puts his chin up and looks approvingly into his imaginary mirror as he soaks up the cheers.

  233. 233.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Obama and Biden are going to mop the floor with these guys.

    After this low bar, we will get Mittastrophe tomorrow night — Guaranteed to satisy…

    Losers. Losers down to the last inch of skin.

  234. 234.

    rikyrah

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    I can’t believe how many of you are actually watching the Zombie-Eyed Granny Killer

  235. 235.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Rita R.: I’m feeling stabby tonight.

  236. 236.

    beltane

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Elie: Funny how the two best speeches of the night were given by minority women.

  237. 237.

    Rita R.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:

    What’s that German word for “a face that needs punching” again?

    Wolf Blitzer

  238. 238.

    pragmatism

    August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    why didn’t obama use the bully pulpit to circumvent congress to pass bowles-simpson unilaterally? i’m joining the firey teabag party. HAMSHER/NORQUIST 2013.

  239. 239.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    August 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Fuck your story, Ryan. Don’t you know Romney doesn’t care about buses or bus drivers?

  240. 240.

    amk

    August 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    pox news sez a big FU to tundra twit and dumps all her ‘interviews’ on the convention. Is her fucking 15-minutes fucking finally over?

  241. 241.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    I suggest everyone open a tab/window and go to DailyPaul or Freep or RedState or something and make a Ron Paul account and start going off about how Ron Paul got shafted and all these fake socialist Republicans like Medicare and etc.

    If you want to carpe diem your way to victory

  242. 242.

    mai naem

    August 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Ok, I got home and was listening to Condi on the radio. Talk about projection. Talk about giving credit to liberal policies. Talk about dissing conservative policies. She is a truly stoopid woman. She should have just gone to Boca Raton and shopped for more Jimmy Choos.

  243. 243.

    catclub

    August 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    @MikeJ: There is a Rosanne episode with a beautiful young girl. Roseanne says: “Hell, she gives me wood.”

    The phrase ‘Not in your league’ springs to mind when Ingrid Bergman is on screen.

  244. 244.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    From viewing the twitterphonisphere, it seems obvious all the fact checkers were working from Ryan’s prepared remarks and had their tweets lined up in advance of his actual speech. They’ve already rated stuff as he’s saying it.

    Which is fine, but doesn’t mean jack shit when he’s going to keep saying it for the next two months.

  245. 245.

    MikeJ

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    @jwb:

    We gotta blow these fuckers out of the water this election or it’s going to be hell to pay for the next quarter century.

    The good news is that there are those that say that this is the last election in which a pure appeal to white racist voters might possibly work. Yes, they could do a lot of damage if they won this time, but this may be the last time they could be as bad as they want.

  246. 246.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    use your hate.

  247. 247.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    DailyPaul even has a chat room where I liked to go after every primary/caucus and spread rumors about anti-Ron-Paul conspiracies and how it would come out in the press tomorrow that Ron Paul actually won

    Seriously, go to a Republican website, make an account, and start rippin all crazy nuts about YOU CANT CUT BACK ON RON PAUL YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

  248. 248.

    Chris

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Yep. Hell of a thing, the quest for titles and status from people who already have all the money and power a man could possibly have.

    Not unlike Ovenmitt’s desperate quest for the presidency.

  249. 249.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    Yeah… Their poll numbers are all “downer”

    After Mittastrophe’s speech tomorrow, it will be even “downer”

    These are some sad folks…

  250. 250.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @1badbaba3: I didn’t even think of that. But Bush couldn’t have pulled off better than this clown.

    Now he’s talking about optimism- has he shown any optimism in his speech? I don’t see it.

  251. 251.

    rikyrah

    August 29, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    Bogart in Casablanca is the sexiest man who has ever been or ever will be in the world.

    I don’t think this- my choice is Cary Grant- but I feel ya

  252. 252.

    rikyrah

    August 29, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    Bogart in Casablanca is the sexiest man who has ever been or ever will be in the world.

    I don’t think this- my choice is Cary Grant- but I feel ya

  253. 253.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    what a piece of shit.

    no shame whatsoever.

    social security saved him, but who cares? the Ayn must be served.

  254. 254.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @pragmatism:

    why didn’t obama use the bully pulpit to circumvent congress to pass bowles-simpson unilaterally? i’m joining the firey teabag party. HAMSHER/NORQUIST 2013.

    ^ don’t be like this loser

  255. 255.

    mai naem

    August 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @Steeplejack: Schieffer’s been in the tank for the Bushes and pretty much all Republicans for several years. His brother’s a lobbyist or something and had a job in the Bush admin. Every once in a while when the Repubs do something totally completely way out Schieffer will do his stern Ed Murrow impersonation.

  256. 256.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Am I hearing things. What is that weird grunting Ryan does when he pauses his speech.

  257. 257.

    Anoniminous

    August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Jesus Christ.

    What a

    ter-

    ibble

    speaker.

    hur-ruck

    (or however you spell that sound)

  258. 258.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    @beltane:

    True dat. Light years and worlds better

    (not saying that they didn’t lie and all — just the deliveries and smoothness were remarkable)

  259. 259.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I rewound the DVR and watched the part of Condi’s speech that CBS played. That is a good speech only in comparison with the other dreck we’ve been seeing. And Condi’s delivery was as if she were addressing a high school meeting of the Future Sister-Wives of America.

  260. 260.

    Cacti

    August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    @Water balloon:

    I’m watching Santorum being interviewed on PBS right now. He’s basically saying he doesn’t think Mitt can win because he’s too awkward and unrelatable, comparing him to Gore and Dukakis. Also, he himself is unable to say anything particularly nice about Mitt

    Mitt has this unique ability to make everyone around him hate his fucking guts.

  261. 261.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Okay, Cary is the only one who can give him a run for his money. And I don’t think that about Bogart in every film. But Casablanca, yes.

  262. 262.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    @Rita R.: haha! Yes!

  263. 263.

    MikeJ

    August 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    @catclub:

    The phrase ‘Not in your league’ springs to mind when Ingrid Bergman is on screen.

    If the league wasn’t so small I might take offense. Software, no matter how widely used, ain’t Open City.

  264. 264.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Jesus Christ are you folks actually watching/listening to this, just read the transcripts tomorrow

  265. 265.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Its a self congratulations grunt. (Cheer – “Oh Yeah — I am so damned Grunt – Great!)

  266. 266.

    General Stuck

    August 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Nice red baiting. “central planners” . He left out the “central committee” for a little more ummph

  267. 267.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    MAAAAAAAAM it’s not fair! Obama’s being mean to me!

    Who is going to vote for this whiner?

  268. 268.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    I mean shit you will achieve your goals a thousandfold if you turn off the speech and then absorb an hour or so of Republican talk radio tomorrow, or just catch the top 3 FoxNews.com stories about the convention

    Politicians’ speeches esp. at the Romney convention are absolutely zero information; everything important about the right wing point of view here will emerge in their media tomorrow

  269. 269.

    mainmati

    August 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    @quannlace: Yeah, that’s what I’m watching. Also, Restaurant Impossible before that. I peeped quickly a couple of times at RNC but it was like peeping into a radioactive facility; my brow started burning.

  270. 270.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    @Elie: Obama is up in the popular vote right now. They may not even get a convention bounce.

  271. 271.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Ok, the iPod bit was at least a little funny.

  272. 272.

    Scott Alloway

    August 29, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Video time. Watched Terry Pratchett’s “Hogfather” via Youtube (about 3 hours). Now picked up the old Hogfather paperback to compare notes. Already read it three times but the video piqued my interest in some details. More reality in “Hogfather” than in the GOP.

  273. 273.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    useless fanatic. will be destroyed.

  274. 274.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: Shut up.

  275. 275.

    1badbaba3

    August 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @catclub: Yeah, him and about 7 billion other poor saps.

  276. 276.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    As I said above — I am RELIEVED. He is tracking to type and the type is a big big problem for the Repubs. Yeah — I want them to let American get steeped in their resentful negatism… their snarky excess and their outright LIES…

    I am relieved. Not complacent but relieved that they did not have any kind of vision or exortation to a higher vision — beyond their christofacism that is…

  277. 277.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Hate & Jeebus. Just wow.

  278. 278.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    How can you people take hour after hour of lukewarm TV pablum from these dorks and you can’t listen to Ben Ferguson a couple times a week, which will allow you to predict Balloon Juice’s headlines in the week that follows

  279. 279.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    August 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    BTW, My pet theory that Ayn Rand was a KGB mole sent by Stalin to propagandize the US into collapse is looking less and less absurd right about now.

    Just took longer than they thought…

  280. 280.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    @Cacti: Santorum clearly hates Romney. That has been obvious for some time but last night it was starkly clear.

  281. 281.

    pragmatism

    August 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: Summer, Donna.

  282. 282.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    I know. I HOPE!!!

    And I suspect that Team O has special magic for these creatures…

  283. 283.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @Elie:

    Yeah but like, nothing he says here matters and you heard it before; the only thing that matters is what AM talk radio and Fox Nation do with it

    It’s not like he’s going to fuck up and call the President a darkie

  284. 284.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    ohhhhh. okay.

  285. 285.

    Rita R.

    August 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Two nights in a row now where the initial women speakers in the 10 o’clock hour — Ann Romney, Susanna Martinez, Condi Rice (although her not as much) — did well, only to be stepped on by bad speechs from male GOP heroes. After they lose in November, maybe Ryan can P90X or whatever it is Christie into shape for his 2016 run to glory.

  286. 286.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    @Steeplejack: She shook like she was coming down off a meth high and needed a fix or she had a real nervous system issue.
    Her content was God awful, her presence was hateful and her delivery was brutal.

  287. 287.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    @General Stuck:

    As Corner Stone pointed out, he’s bugling like an elk under his breath. It attracts the dominant bucks to his blind.

  288. 288.

    Quinn

    August 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    I am going to have a heart attack. Everything Ryan has said is the exact opposite of reality and he will get a pass and half the country will reward them.

  289. 289.

    Violet

    August 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Holy crap. I just glanced at my TV. Did Ryan only just finish now? That’s crazy.

  290. 290.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    @mainmati:

    LOL! Yes — I built up my resistance from starting to listen earlier. The gals gave me a little ice to the forehead before facing the furnace again.

  291. 291.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    @Little Boots:

    Exactly, thanks for backing me up. Liberals want the Two Minutes’ Hate and they can’t even pay attention to the right program

  292. 292.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Aaaand look at all the old white people!

  293. 293.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    @Quinn:

    almost half. slightly less than half.

    we’re not there yet.

  294. 294.

    Gravenstone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    WGN showed about 30 seconds of Ryan’s bullshit live. I was immediately screaming at my TV, full volume, blood pressure soaring to match the roar. Shit like this is why I’m not subjecting myself to it voluntarily. I swear to BOB, if I ever meet that fucker in person I’ll punch him square in the neck, secret service protection be damned.

  295. 295.

    gogol's wife

    August 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    It’s amazing that they found someone even more enraging than Palin.

  296. 296.

    mai naem

    August 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Uh, oh, those cutaways from the crowd kinda looked like they were having second thoughts about this veep selection.

    He looks way too young. He looks like he just arrived in the army and is going to get the buzzcut.

  297. 297.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    I guess I should give up and just let liberals do whatever cable news tells NPR to tell their favorite bloggers to tell them to do but you know, that wouldn’t be right

  298. 298.

    Cacti

    August 29, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Santorum clearly hates Romney. That has been obvious for some time but last night it was starkly clear.

    Even in 2008, Mitt managed to unite the other candidates in the common thought that he was a prick who needed to be taken down a peg.

  299. 299.

    Elie

    August 29, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And oh boy, would I like to see one of the BIG BLACK BUCKS stick his horn —

    Well, oh well —

  300. 300.

    AA+ Bonds

    August 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Anyway enjoy your Burma Shave Polka Hour, I’m off to pour more blood in the Ron Pauler shark tanks

  301. 301.

    1badbaba3

    August 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    @SIA: Same as it ever was. They’re the Classics because they work.

    Now if they could only get those lazy blah people to do the same. Work, I say, work, that is.

  302. 302.

    GxB

    August 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God: I know the Irish word is “O’Keefe”

  303. 303.

    Little Boots

    August 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    thank you … for these words of comfort.

  304. 304.

    Cacti

    August 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    @mai naem:

    He looks way too young. He looks like he just arrived in the army and is going to get the buzzcut

    Ryan is Eddie Haskell in his 40s.

    Mitt is Eddie Haskell in his 60s.

  305. 305.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    August 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    If the GOP insists that women can only be first officers and their rising stars, Christie and Ryan, have shown they are only pretenders, where do they go from here? And remember, outsourcing the Presidency is not an option.

  306. 306.

    Steeplejack

    August 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Yes, that sounds like a much more productive use of your time.

  307. 307.

    Cris (without an H)

    August 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Okay seriously, WTF. Ryan just said, and I paraphrase: “Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. The founders secured those rights…”. Doesn’t sentence two directly contradict sentence one?

    Also too: “We all depend on each other, we all must help one another… and so we must stop big government!” Does this speechwriter even remember what he wrote from one sentence to the next? Holy fucking word salad.

  308. 308.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Oh skinny Al Sharpton. What are we to do with you?

  309. 309.

    4jkb4ia

    August 29, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Wow, was that slick. After about 5 minutes I was understanding how much sense there was in John’s attitude.
    I also decided that it is not just how they present themselves–if they know the American people wouldn’t vote for them if they saw anything about how they acted the last 2 years. Ryan’s speech was “principled” enough that even the Ron Paul people would eat it up. It is about whether these folks can give the Democrats anything that they have to think how to rebut next week. Ryan was trying to throw down the gauntlet–we have a mountain of debt now [at historically low interest rates, but who’s counting?]. We have terrible unemployment now. Don’t listen to trying to blame the mean Republicans for everything when you see the Democrats on your TV next week. Listen to whether the Democrats have learned anything and whether it will work or just make them feel better. Even if we need a millionaire’s tax, that will not cut the deficit all by itself. Ryan is using his reputation as an idea person to challenge the Democrats to have an idea that they didn’t have four years ago.

  310. 310.

    muddy

    August 29, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    @Corner Stone: Did you see when Newty went on his show, and interrupted Al’s greeting in order to congratulate Al on his weight loss, and especially the fact that it stayed off.

    I think he imagined Al would blush and be all, Oh Shucks, kind sir. Sorry Newty, he’s not one of the idiot wingnut women you chat up.

  311. 311.

    Spectre

    August 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Matthews is ready to vote for Rice in 2016.

  312. 312.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Aaaand, the BBC feed halts with “This broadcast has now ended.” to which I can only add “Amen!”

    Don’t know what the significance of the “Eight Days a Week” outro might be. I hope Paul gouges the shit out of them on royalties.

  313. 313.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    @1badbaba3: Yep, but it seems a little more hatey & jeebusy now. Or my tolerance has decreased :)

  314. 314.

    trollhattan

    August 29, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    @Cacti:
    “Good afternoon Mrs. Romney and a tip of the hat to the spouse. My, those are lovely pearls you’re wearing…is Willard about?”

  315. 315.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @Spectre: No shit. I hate it when Tweety does this shit.
    She wasn’t bold, she wasn’t honest, she wasn’t talking to “all America”.
    She just didn’t call the current president a racial epithet. That’s all she didn’t do.
    Everything else she did suspended reality and stuck a shiv in the current reality we face due to her fake hubby and coterie.

  316. 316.

    SIA

    August 29, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @Spectre: He’s done pretty well lately, but he’s always ready to be swept off his feet.

  317. 317.

    Chris

    August 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    “How can you close me down? On what charge?”
    “I’m shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in there!”
    “Your winnings, monsieur.”
    “Oh, thank you. Out! Everyone out!”

    Still gets me every time.

  318. 318.

    Corner Stone

    August 29, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    I would gut Condi face to face in a debate or open forum. Or even if I just got to crazily shout at her as the guards dragged me away from the event.
    I pray, please FSM, please let that scum sucking succubus run for public office.

  319. 319.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    August 29, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    @GxB:
    Win!

  320. 320.

    4jkb4ia

    August 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Jaw drops. Although “Now Watergate does not bother me, does your conscience bother you?” would be very apt, including for Rice.

  321. 321.

    1badbaba3

    August 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: Wait a sec, the President is a ni-, er, um colored?

  322. 322.

    catclub

    August 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    @trollhattan: I guess ‘Brown Sugar’ would be too much?

  323. 323.

    Ralph Spoilsport

    August 29, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    BROWKAW JUST SAID ‘PRESIDENT’ ROMNEY??? 11.33EDT

    the fix is in…

  324. 324.

    Lancelot Link

    August 29, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    @Cacti:
    Ryan is Eddie Haskell in his 40s.
    Mitt is Eddie Haskell in his 60s.

    Not so much Eddie Haskell as Ted Bundy
    (honestly, look at a picture of Bundy next to a picture of Young Mitt. The resemblance is scary)

  325. 325.

    Jay in Oregon

    August 29, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    @Cris (without an H):

    Okay seriously, WTF. Ryan just said, and I paraphrase: “Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. The founders secured those rights…”. Doesn’t sentence two directly contradict sentence one?

    You’d think so.

  326. 326.

    SatanicPanic

    August 29, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @Cris (without an H): Yes, this is nonsense.

  327. 327.

    dance around in your bones

    August 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Biden is going to grind Ryan into itsy-bitsy, teenie-weenie, doll shit in the VP debate.

    I’d like to see Biden squash Ryan into an itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny yellow polka dot bikini, just for the LULZ.

  328. 328.

    TenguPhule

    August 29, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    The Romney Campaign in a nutshell has always been

    “A Lie, A Noun and No Tax Returns”

  329. 329.

    TenguPhule

    August 29, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    : “Our rights come from nature and God, not from government. The founders secured those rights…”. Doesn’t sentence two directly contradict sentence one?

    No, that’s what justifies the NRA “GUNS FOEVAH” cash cow.

    God gave em, Guns keep em, G-O-P

  330. 330.

    TenguPhule

    August 30, 2012 at 12:00 am

    I would gut Condi face to face in a debate or open forum.

    Do you mean figurately or literally? Because I can get you good deal on deep water fish hooks….

  331. 331.

    amk

    August 30, 2012 at 12:03 am

    @TenguPhule: tweeting that.

  332. 332.

    Corner Stone

    August 30, 2012 at 12:07 am

    For all those people here who kept citing Lawrence O’Donnell as some kind of political savant?
    Fuck you. Fuck you right up your stupid asses.

  333. 333.

    RadioOne

    August 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    You should watch tomorrow, even if you hate it. US political conventions are like the Summer Olympics. They only happen once every four years,and even if you’re not interested in bullshit GOP talking points/water polo, it’s your duty to watch history being made. Especially if you’re really interested in politics.

  334. 334.

    dance around in your bones

    August 30, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Finally catching up on this thread after watching Casablanca for the 8th millionth time (had to keep pausing it and explaining the best lines to the various grandkids that wandered in and out, as well as playing WAR! with the oldest grandkid and then reading a book to the middle kid about Telling The Truth – something he is not famous for..)

    but – anyway!! sounds like I didn’t miss much re: the RNC. I always get the best info and commentary here, anyway.

    Also, I’d rather poke an icepick into my temple than listen to Ann Romney or Condi the Quaverer any ol’ night of the week.

  335. 335.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    August 30, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Howard Fineman has jizzed his pants several times since Ryan finished his speech. All these fucking idiots on MSNBC now are wasted.

  336. 336.

    GxB

    August 30, 2012 at 12:18 am

    @Cris (without an H): Such is the marvel of the wingularity. The very fabric of space-time, reason and logic are bent into seeming contradiction. It’s like non-euclidean geometry. I believe the topography we’re dealing with here most closely resembles a cross between a mobius strip and a pretzel.

  337. 337.

    Chris

    August 30, 2012 at 12:38 am

    @TenguPhule:

    Yep! Just God and guns! That’s why Somalis never have to fear for their rights!

  338. 338.

    Thatgaljill

    August 30, 2012 at 1:06 am

    I want my freakin’ NPR back… oh and I’d like someone on the ever so hallowed PBS News Hour to put on their big girl panties and call the surrogates on the thoroughly debunked lies. Oh, wait, we need Aaron Sorkin for that (facepalm)

  339. 339.

    Ripley

    August 30, 2012 at 1:21 am

    Marmalard/Haskell 2012:
    We’re Running For Office, For Pete’s Sake.

  340. 340.

    TenguPhule

    August 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    and even if you’re not interested in bullshit GOP talking points/water polo, it’s your duty to watch history being made.

    No its not, let the Watcher on the Moon take care of that.

  341. 341.

    TenguPhule

    August 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Yep! Just God and guns! That’s why Somalis never have to fear for their rights!

    The right to avoid taxes and collect ransoms shall not be infringed on….

  342. 342.

    4jkb4ia

    August 30, 2012 at 1:34 am

    Jeebus, Sully is telling me that Portman said that Obama signed no free trade agreements. I suppose this is a positive sign that there has been no loud sound of jobs going to South Korea or Panama.

    If “the founders secured those rights” contradicts that rights come from God, the Declaration of Independence has the same contradiction–“they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights….to secure these rights, Governments are instituted”. Governments are instituted to secure the rights but don’t create them. Our Bill of Rights was instituted to ensure that the government had to respect rights that the citizens already believed were essential.

  343. 343.

    Ben Franklin

    August 30, 2012 at 10:22 am

    @JenJen:

    Eastwood was my pick until the RNC said it would be someone who will embarrass Obama.

    Colin Powell has been trashing Romney. I dunno.

  344. 344.

    Ben Franklin

    August 30, 2012 at 10:23 am

    @JenJen:

    Eastwood was my pick until the RNC said it would be someone who will embarrass Obama.

    Colin Powell has been trashing Romney. I dunno.

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