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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Bark louder, little dog.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

He really is that stupid.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Let’s finish the job.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Monday Evening Open Thread: Don’t Panic, Mr. Dent

Monday Evening Open Thread: Don’t Panic, Mr. Dent

by Anne Laurie|  March 11, 20136:10 pm| 127 Comments

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But do check out Google’s homepage doodle, in honor of Douglas Adams’ 61st birthday.

What’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    Yutsano

    March 11, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    So when do I get to say so long and thanks for all the fish?

  2. 2.

    imonlylurking

    March 11, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    I have this week off so I’m planning lots of cooking. I’ve got a pot roast in the oven now.

    I don’t know if I’ll get to the cleaning, but the cooking is as scheduled.

  3. 3.

    Randy P

    March 11, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    Is this one active? I always have mixed luck with the interactive ones, seems like most of the ways I access the net they don’t work.

  4. 4.

    ranchandsyrup

    March 11, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Always remember to bring a towel.

    Doing some grilling tonight after a bike ride.

    AL, your post sez “eving” instead of evening. :)

  5. 5.

    scav

    March 11, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    @Randy P: Few things hidden in there that move and beep.

    ETA. The goog had no option but working a bable fish in there. . . .

  6. 6.

    jl

    March 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Dancing fever.

  7. 7.

    Violet

    March 11, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Still trying to adjust to the time change. I’ve been mixed up time-wise all day.

  8. 8.

    danimal

    March 11, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    I can only imagine what Douglas Adams would have to say about Daylight Savings Time.

    DST would have been one of those ridiculous concepts that Adams eviscerated with cool wit, in great detail.

  9. 9.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    It’s spring break at the U and local school so all the students and friends with kids are gone. The grocery was empty and so were the streets. It’s a nice break but man time flies. Got my kettle bell set today so now I can try to de-jewel myself in the name of fitness.

  10. 10.

    MikeJ

    March 11, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Every time I go to wikipedia on my nexus tablet I think of Douglas Adams.

  11. 11.

    TooManyJens

    March 11, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    Setting up my new computer. I’d have preferred to wait at least a few more months to get it, but my old computer had other ideas.

  12. 12.

    ranchandsyrup

    March 11, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    @Raven: Been enjoying your pics here and on Flickr. Keep up the good work and wear a cup while kettle balling belling.

  13. 13.

    Chris

    March 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    @Raven:

    Campuses are so beautiful when they’re empty. Although I always feel like I’m in a Stargate or Star Trek episode where they come across a deserted civilization and wonder what could’ve happened here before being attacked by alien monsters.

    (“Serenity” takes the cake in terms of making that meme freaky).

  14. 14.

    nancydarling

    March 11, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    I am trying not to despair over the lunatics in the Arkansas legislature, some of them DINOS but mostly teabagger fundies. I’m calling this the “tats and twats legislative session”.

    I think the WVA lege has to be at least one quarter as lunatic as AR and I’m wondering how Cole manages to be happy.

    I’ve got two dogs and a cat. My daffodils up by the pond are blooming. I’m doing prep work for my garden. And still I am despairing.

  15. 15.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: That’s funny, I’m moving some old doors from the attic and I came across my old cup that I wore when I pitched slow-pitch. 46 ft is not very far!

  16. 16.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    I was supposed to go see a movie on Sunday with my lil cousins in NOLA. Drove down there for that purpose alone. When I got there, my younger cousins decided to have a crawfish boil (we ended up buying crawfish and all the fixins since it was raining), so needless to say, I never made it to the movies. I spend my time on da porch eating crawfish with the fam, watching my godkids and all the other kids of my cousin play in the front yard and finally listening as my aunts, uncles, my mother, my sister and extended fam ribbed each other while playing dominoes.

    I was tired when I went home, but I was extremely happy!

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    March 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    @Chris:

    Campuses are so beautiful when they’re empty.

    And you don’t have to wait until spring break to see them that way; just go by around 7-8 AM.

  18. 18.

    the Conster

    March 11, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    @Chris:

    Acquaintances of a friend of mine bought a house and moved into it on July 1, on a quiet little side street near the UMass Amherst campus. LOL. They knew it would change once school started, but they had no.idea.how.much.

  19. 19.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    @lamh35: Peel the tail and suck the head cher. . .

  20. 20.

    Suffern ACE

    March 11, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Watched about 90 seconds of Wilf blitzer at the gas station regarding the bomb in Afghanistan and some rift it reveals between Karzai and Hagel. I swear he was about to opine that we should stay there until they love us. Then Rabd Paul was brought in to opine about disrespect and I’m glad it was my turn to pay.

  21. 21.

    Roger Moore

    March 11, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    @Raven:
    Stop trying to teach your grandma lahm35 to suck eggs crawfish.

  22. 22.

    jl

    March 11, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    @Chris:

    hmmm… I dunno. Raven wandering around a suddenly empty college town. Other day he was talking about his vast swarm of flesh eating beetle minions.

    Note down that comment down, just in case something hits the news soon.

    Edit: and he was talking about some ‘project’ too.

  23. 23.

    Calouste

    March 11, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I didn’t know you are a dolphin.

  24. 24.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    @Roger Moore: We got a new AD a couple of years ago and he took and morning run through the downtown bar area and was SHOCKED. Place is like a little French Quarter when the kiddies are here.

  25. 25.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    @jl: Inquiry dawg, inquiry.

  26. 26.

    Morzer

    March 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    @Calouste:

    I believe he’s a Seachicken.

  27. 27.

    JPL

    March 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    @lamh35: I lived in Lake Charles in the mid seventies and my oldest son was born there. I still miss crawfish boils. There’s a restaurant in the town I live in GA that is advertising a crawfish boil for $32.00 a person which is a tad steep or me.

  28. 28.

    Calouste

    March 11, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    @danimal:

    If Douglas Adams would have had anything to say about Daylight Saving Time, he would have said so. It’s only been observed in his native country, with a four year exception, since 30 years before he was born.

    But success with tying other famous dead people to your pet causes.

  29. 29.

    Raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    @JPL: Well then, you have a reason to go back to Lake Charles. .

  30. 30.

    Chris

    March 11, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Not at FIU. Less busy, but still plenty of people. Going back to college made me realized I’d developed misanthropic tendencies since undergrad. Not against other people per se, but definitely against crowds.

    ETA: and it’s only been three years. Not sure what happened in the interval.

  31. 31.

    JPL

    March 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    @Raven: omg..that really is twangy!

  32. 32.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    @Chris: Friend of mine just joined the faculty there.

  33. 33.

    MikeJ

    March 11, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    @Calouste: Some people are shocked to learn that there exist others who both have to work and would like to enjoy time outside.

  34. 34.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    @JPL: Honey that is LUCINDA!

  35. 35.

    LanceThruster

    March 11, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Even though I love Douglas Adams dearly, I happen to think that digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

    Saw him at a book signing on campus shortly before he merged with the infinite.

    Last Chance To See, indeed.

    :-(

  36. 36.

    HinTN

    March 11, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    @Raven: Radiators sing, “Suck da head, squeeze da tip” Yeah you right!

  37. 37.

    Roger Moore

    March 11, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    @Chris:
    I may be projecting from my alma mater. The food service there stopped serving breakfast long, long ago because there weren’t enough takers to make it worthwhile. Anyone you meet there at 7 AM is far more likely to have stayed up that late than gotten up that early.

  38. 38.

    gogol's wife

    March 11, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    I love spring break. I’m only now starting to relax (unexpected blizzard on the last day of class before break didn’t help any).

  39. 39.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    @JPL: Try Little Angel Little Brother or Memphis Pearl

    Back in Memphis she had fun
    Goin’ around, tellin’ everyone
    She was gonna buy dresses that zip up the side
    And wear red lipstick, have a nice car to drive

    \

  40. 40.

    HinTN

    March 11, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    @raven: Little Angel Little Brother tears me up every damn time

  41. 41.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    @Raven: @Roger Moore:

    LOL. No need to be taught, I’ve been eating crawfish since I learn to walk and chew…LOL.

    Now I’ve been to queasy to suck crawfish heads, I hate that part, but I can go to town on some tails…LOL.

    Funny enough, I have this lil cousin Jasmine. She loves crawfish, but she can’t peel them. So she literally chews the tails and just spits out the harder bits…lol. But don’t you take that plate from her, she ain’t having it. She’s just gonna chew to her heart’s content…LMAO.

  42. 42.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    did ya’ll see that crap from Howard Fineman on Tweety’s show?

    the segment was about Ashley Judd. Fineman was reporting that the old school Dem establishment in KY DO NOT WANT Judd to run.

    when Alex Wagner pointed out that if the Obama apparatus if behind Judd, then Judd who will be able to fundraise big and who has been a big, vocal and very articulate supporter of women’s rights and with the GOP’s stupidity when it comes to women’s issues, then McConnell should be scared.

    So then Fineman said “the Obama people don’t want Judd either” and then when challenged by Tweety, he added some caveat about “well old school establishment” dems didn’t want her to run. Then when asked by Tweety, well who else they got and why not Judd, he said mentioned what his “sources” said and he mentioned Judd’s “mental issues”, her divorce, her liberalism, and then issues of her profession and Tweety was basically what are you talking about and Fineman said basically they were talking about her “nekkidness” in her films. He masked it in what his “sources” were saying, but if you saw the smirk on his face, you’d want to smack it off his face. It was disgusting.

    Ugh. Now I fully expect the usual suspects, who should know better than to follow hacks like Fineman, will jump on the “the Obama people don’t want Judd either” bandwagaon even though, to my mind, Fineman began to try to backtrack from the statement both on the show and on twitter once challenged. Fineman’s “sources” line I suspect is bullshit, I just don’t see the Obama people leaking anything against Ashley Judd or any female Dem candidate right about now.

    It was a classic Fineman hit piece of reporting, masked in “sourcing” to pit the “Obama people” against Judd before anyone Judd even announces her candidacy.

  43. 43.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    @HinTN: God yes, the way she sings

    I see you now at the piano
    Your back a slow curve
    Playing Ray Charles and Fats Domino
    While I sang all the words

    is crushing

  44. 44.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    @lamh35: Reminds me of a time when I made a big mess of tamales for a party and one dude says. “man, these are good but they are hard to chew”!

  45. 45.

    Cacti

    March 11, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Does anyone know how many people were killed by killer dronez at Starbucks today?

  46. 46.

    Anoniminous

    March 11, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    @Raven:

    When living in Iowa City we would do our Photography Expeditions in and around the campus. Opportunity for me to indulge in my passion for neat, semi-surreal, imaging.

  47. 47.

    JPL

    March 11, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    @lamh35: Wonder what would happen if she posed for playboy. Scott Brown was proud of his body.

  48. 48.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    And then there is Pineola. . .

  49. 49.

    askew

    March 11, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    @lamh35:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this was coming from the old KY Dem establishment who are big Clinton backers. Allison Grimes is a big Clinton supporter and there are those who want her to run against McConnell and are trying to push Judd out.

  50. 50.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    @askew: I’m all for her but she has said some intense shit.

  51. 51.

    jl

    March 11, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    @lamh35:

    Fineman went to The Famous Pundit Bob Woodward School of Journamalism? What a surprise.

    Fineman is a brave man. The dreaded ‘have a nice day’ threats will come any day now. Will Fineman have the courage to speak out?

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    March 11, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    @Cacti:

    Does anyone know how many people were killed by killer dronez at Starbucks today?

    Not as many as were killed by the coffee.

  53. 53.

    Yutsano

    March 11, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    @lamh35: Damn, now you got me craving some mudbugs. Been forever and a day since I had some good ones. My parents imported some for my brother’s college graduation, we ate really really well for like three days afterward. And they were still ALIVE after they were shipped!

  54. 54.

    askew

    March 11, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    @raven:

    @askew: I’m all for her but she has said some intense shit.

    She has, but until recently the KY Dems didn’t have anyone seriously considering a bid. Now that Judd is considering it, Grimes and others are being pushed by the Dem establishment.

    I doubt Judd will win but I bet she gets close and I don’t think Grimes or anyone else would do better.

  55. 55.

    LanceThruster

    March 11, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Sounds a little macabre. I love lobster but really hate the boiled alive process.

  56. 56.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    March 11, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    I always thought Douglas Adams died of a broken heart. He wanted to be taken seriously but people kept saying “haw haw! Say ‘Beeblebrox’ again!”

    Poor guy. I loved his work.

  57. 57.

    LanceThruster

    March 11, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist:

    I take him quite seriously as reality is indeed a farce. He knew exactly what he was doing.

    Slartibartfast!

  58. 58.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @askew:

    As Tweety and Alex Wagner and even Fineman conceded, McConnell’s disapproval in KY is 55%, approval is 35%. Still what you need to run against McConnell is MONEY. Ashley Judd has the ability to not only raise big money for a well funded run, but she has the added virtue of being able to soak up the “free media” by virtue of being a celebrity.

    And even Fineman reported, that Judd is doing all the right things when running and that even from his reporting, outside of the “establishment” Dems in KY, Ashley Judd has a big up with women outside the “establishment” and she will have to ability to run a new more modern type of campaign and bring the mixture of paid, free, entainment, digital, etc media in much the way that Obama did.

  59. 59.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Well damn, who knew Tam’Ron Hall got it like that.

    Prince Did Tamron Hall’s MSNBC Theme Song. That’s Right, PRINCE (VIDEO)

  60. 60.

    22over7

    March 11, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    @askew:

    Why do you doubt that she’d win?

  61. 61.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    @LanceThruster: Usually you cut their head in half with a knife first.

    Somehow that was supposed to make it sound better…

  62. 62.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    @22over7: I’d put her odds of winning at better than even.

    Seriously.

    And I was in the ‘relax, Obama’s got this’ all the way through the 2012 runup, even after the first debate.

  63. 63.

    the Conster

    March 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    @lamh35:

    Tamron Hall is flat out the most beautiful woman on TV. I’ve been saying that since I first laid eyes on her and apparently Prince agrees with me.

  64. 64.

    dance around in your bones

    March 11, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    42! 42! The answer is 42!

    Anyway, open thread – so I have been re-connecting with my mom after 20 some years (as some of you may remember) and it’s actually going pretty well. She talks about a lot of spiritual stuff, which sometimes makes me fall asleep[(been there, heard that) but we have also gone through a bunch of family history that I wasn’t aware of before.

    Some of it I don’t really WANT to know, ya know? I have my happy childhood memories and I don’t necessarily want them disturbed with an alternate reality, which would alter my whole past history.

    Oh Gawd, not that anybody’s interested, but you asked what’s going on, right? Anyway, we walked all over Santa Barbara today, to the pier and Shoreline cafe and etc, so now my mom is taking a nap (she’s 80) and I am taking advantage of the time to catch up on BJ !

    Jeebus Christ. Family stuff can be weird.

  65. 65.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    @dance around in your bones: I had a totally fucked up kidhood. Parents divorced when I was 11, kidnapped by my old man and brainwashed against my mother for years. I ended up patching up with everyone before they died and I’m glad I did.

  66. 66.

    MomSense

    March 11, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    We are watching Branagh’s Hamlet. The teenager has a test on Thursday.

  67. 67.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Fineman’s last tweet:

    @howardfineman
    Obama folks acidly dismissive of #AshleyJudd. “If she gets in she’ll be out of the race in three months,” one told me Sat. “Too much stuff.”

    based on his sources. Now how soon and who will be the first left-leaning activist to use Fineman’s hackery for their usual BS?

    If there is one thing I’ve never thought about the “obama people” is that they’d ever be so stupid as to “source” anything like that against a female candidate and especially someone who was a BIG OfA and Obama supporter.

    Fineman is full of shit!

  68. 68.

    Baud

    March 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    @lamh35:

    Obama folks . . . . one told me Sat.

    Hmmm.

  69. 69.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Wow, this is cool as shit.

    Check out the filters for region, sex, age group. Look at the 2010 data for something more complete.

  70. 70.

    Roger Moore

    March 11, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    @MomSense:

    We are watching Branagh’s Hamlet.

    Kenneth really puts the Ham in Hamlet. He’s a great actor, but he really shouldn’t be allowed to direct himself.

  71. 71.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    @Roger Moore: He was pretty hammy when Woody Allen directed him playing Woody Allen.

  72. 72.

    realbtl

    March 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    @raven: Re: Pineola.
    I used to perform that on acoustic guitar with my friend the ex-speed metal guitarist on lead, told him to rip the guts out of the thing. We both loved it but I’m not so sure about the sedate open mic audience.
    One of the most intense songs ever.

  73. 73.

    MomSense

    March 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    @? Martin:

    …and horrifying.

  74. 74.

    Warren Terra

    March 11, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Today’s Google’s doodle is a tribute to Douglas Adams, the late author of the acclaimed novel, “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”

    It’s a novelization, dammit! It was a radio comedy first, and (imho) the radio series is still the best version, among radio, television, novel, and (sort-of) film. Though the hand-drawn “computer” animations of the television series are pretty special.

    Mind you, there are some novelizations that are better than the original. Red Dwarf, by a significant margin, for example.

  75. 75.

    Todd

    March 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Greatest story ever. One of the biggest conservatard cardinals there is lives just above one of Europe’s premier gay saunas – and bunches of priests share the neighborhood.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/as-cardinals-gather-to-elect-pope-catholic-officials-break-into-a-sweat-over-news-that-priests-share-23m-building-with-huge-gay-sauna-8529670.html

    The senior Vatican figure sweating the most due to the unlikely proximity of the gay Europa Multiclub is probably Cardinal Ivan Dias, the head of the Congregation for Evangelisation of Peoples, who is due to participate in tomorrow’s election at the Sistine Chapel.

    This 76-year-old “prince of the church” enjoys a 12-room apartment on the first-floor of the imposing palazzo, at 2 Via Carducci, just yards from the ground floor entrance to the steamy flesh pot. There are 18 other Vatican apartments in the block, many of which house priests.

  76. 76.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    March 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    @LanceThruster: That is a comforting way to look at it.

    I remember that part of why I thought the way I do, that he wanted to write less silly stuff, is this 1989 LAT interview, in which he said that his next novel might be “downright mainstream.”

    Though now that I reread that interview it doesn’t really come across the way I remembered. Kind of cool that it’s online.

    (ETA: though it does say ‘For one thing, he thinks he will try “to suppress the need that I sometimes suffer from, which is . . . to instantly and duck for cover under the nearest joke,” whenever his writing leads to something serious.’)

  77. 77.

    askew

    March 11, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    @22over7:

    KY is a conservative state and the GOP will tear Judd apart with media’s help.

  78. 78.

    MomSense

    March 11, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    @lamh35:

    Happy tired is the best kind of tired!

    You are making me think of summer visits with my Dad–sitting on the front porch–the best!

  79. 79.

    22over7

    March 11, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    @askew:

    You think she doesn’t know that? Maybe she’s ready for a brawl.

    For me, the 2012 victories meant that it’s time to push the envelope. Yes, the old white men are still in power and still angry, but they’re also scared. Yes, they’ll try to tear her to bits, but if she runs and fights, and has some money to back her up, maybe, just maybe, her message will appeal to all those voters who aren’t old white men.

    That’s my hope.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 11, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    @askew: It is hard to tear someone apart if the person simply owns his or her past. Take Al Franken for example. I know there are differences between MN and KY, but I don’t think her career is a killer. The people who will be turned off by it would be unlikely to vote for any Democrat.

  81. 81.

    IowaOldLady

    March 11, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    @Raven: Some TV cop show had a case where the fitness instructor had been beaten to death with a kettle bell. I fully understand the impulse.

  82. 82.

    Chris

    March 11, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    @raven:

    School of International and Public Affairs, by any chance?

  83. 83.

    22over7

    March 11, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    And if it were, say, Kentucky native George Clooney running for the senate seat, there would be little mention of the fact that we’ve seen his bare bottom more than once.

  84. 84.

    MomSense

    March 11, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    @lamh35:
    Tamron Hall is absolutely the most gorgeous woman — and Prince definitely has a weakness for beautiful women.

    @Roger Moore:

    He is over the top isn’t he! But we are trying to get through Senior English here–and he does stick to the text. Kate Winslet is her usual wonderful and I was so pleasantly surprised to see Jack Lemmon. Not sure that Marcellus is his best–but I did love him.

  85. 85.

    ranchandsyrup

    March 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    When twitter trolling a boxer goes too far……

    http://deadspin.com/warning-if-you-troll-a-professional-boxer-on-twitter-452727665

  86. 86.

    Schlemizel

    March 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Its sobering to think by the time I reached Mr. Adams age he had been dead 2 months.

  87. 87.

    askew

    March 11, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    @22over7:

    You think she doesn’t know that? Maybe she’s ready for a brawl.

    Of course she knows it and she’s ready for it. I just think the conservative lean of the state will be too much for her to overcome. I saw what it did to Conway against Paul in 2010. Conway was a 100% better candidate than Paul and he crushed Conway.

  88. 88.

    Schlemizel

    March 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    30 days left for Teddy tomorrow!

    Feel free to share far & wide
    Countdown till Ted Nugent is dead or in jail

  89. 89.

    MomSense

    March 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    @Roger Moore: @raven:

    Did you see him in the series Wallander? Not hammy at all. Even though it can be gruesome–it is very well done.

  90. 90.

    askew

    March 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    @askew: It is hard to tear someone apart if the person simply owns his or her past. Take Al Franken for example. I know there are differences between MN and KY, but I don’t think her career is a killer. The people who will be turned off by it would be unlikely to vote for any Democrat.

    I am not worried about her career, but about them going after her mental health issues and her recent divorce. MN is significantly more liberal than Kentucky and Al is a man so the media didn’t go as hard on him as they will on Ashley.

  91. 91.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 11, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    @askew: I am still guessing that most who would be turned off are not potential Democratic voters. What she could bring to the the table is new voters.

  92. 92.

    Mnemosyne

    March 11, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist:

    I always thought Douglas Adams died of a broken heart. He wanted to be taken seriously but people kept saying “haw haw! Say ‘Beeblebrox’ again!”

    I’ve read Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency (and The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul), so I don’t think Adams wanted to be taken “seriously,” exactly. He may have wanted to be able to move beyond Hitchhiker, but that’s a slightly different thing.

  93. 93.

    gelfling545

    March 11, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @askew: Rove’s group is trying that now & just looking foolish in the process.

  94. 94.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    @askew:

    KY is a conservative state and the GOP will tear Judd apart with media’s help.

    That’s going to be difficult to do. Judd isn’t a local celebrity, she’s a global one. If the KY GOP swing, they’re going to find a lot of people with a lot of influence outside of KY swinging back. The cost of going too hard at someone that is popular outside of the political sphere will be felt against the GOP in ways that they are unaccustomed. The KY GOP may not be aware of that, but the national GOP will. They’re going to have to go quite easy on her.

  95. 95.

    Anoniminous

    March 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    @? Martin:

    Unsurprising the Northwest, heavily settled by Scandinavians (Yea us!), has the lowest rate – by A Lot – and the Southeast, almost totally settled by Scotch-Irish, the highest fatality percentages.

    Om du kan läsa detta du troligtvis inte kommer att skjuta någon. (Även om du kanske skära av huvudet med en yxa.)

  96. 96.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 11, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    not to get too dimensional-chessy, but if the GOP really tried to slut-shame Ashley Judd, they might win that battle but lose a broader war, especially if Hillary decides to go for it. The far right can’t contain its misogyny. Between the star power of the Clintons and and a fully engaged OFA, and an improving economy, I think 2014 has the potential to be a very different off-year election, he typed hopefully.

  97. 97.

    Todd

    March 11, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    @? Martin:

    That’s going to be difficult to do. Judd isn’t a local celebrity, she’s a global one. If the KY GOP swing, they’re going to find a lot of people with a lot of influence outside of KY swinging back. The cost of going too hard at someone that is popular outside of the political sphere will be felt against the GOP in ways that they are unaccustomed. The KY GOP may not be aware of that, but the national GOP will. They’re going to have to go quite easy on her.

    I dunno. The local right wing hag for Clear Channel has a daily three hour hate here in Louisville (to the exclusion of most items of local interest), and she is already landing blows.

  98. 98.

    Anoniminous

    March 11, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Judd’s polling numbers aren’t bad this far out. Granted it’s, most likely, pure name recognition for Judd and McConnell’s horrible re-elect numbers. But it’s something she could build on.

  99. 99.

    ChrisNYC

    March 11, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    I watched the Ashley Judd event in DC a week or so ago. I like her but wow it was, to my eye, not good. There was a mememememe quality — star-ish — that I think will not play in a campaign. Also, a reference to “your sacred narrative.” I’m all for sacred narratives but we’re not ready for them yet in Senate races, I suspect. And a “Bono is the greatest person evah.” Ick. But I do like her.

  100. 100.

    Hill Dweller

    March 11, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: If the sequester isn’t fixed, economic growth will be significantly lower.

    Benen linked to Merrill Lynch’s projections for job creation shrinking to below 100,000 in April and May. Unemployment isn’t going to drop with jobs being created at that rate.

  101. 101.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 11, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    @ChrisNYC: And a “Bono is the greatest person evah.”

    She said that? You know the joke in Ireland, what’s the difference between God and Bono?

  102. 102.

    Steeplejack

    March 11, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    @dance around in your bones:

    Glad it’s going okay with your mom. Twenty years is a long hiatus.

    Mine just turned 83, and I am flying out to Las Vegas in a couple of weeks to see her and my wingnut (younger) brother. Both have a history of depression and (the last few years) increasing negativity, so interacting with them can be, uh, an “inconsistent” experience. I am trying to plan things to fortify myself against any craziness that might arise. I am staying with a good friend from college (neutral ground), and, worst-case scenario, we will do some fun things when “family time” becomes too much.

  103. 103.

    MikeJ

    March 11, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Isn’t George Clooney from Kentucky too?

  104. 104.

    ChrisNYC

    March 11, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It was not THAT, really. But very close. It was how Bono called her and it was him and some other celeb and they asked her to do a UN (?) ambassador thing on water or women or something. “When Bono calls you answer because he’s the savior of the world.” Like that. There was, thankfully, no mention of George Clooney’s house on Lake Como. :)

    What’s the Bono joke? If it’s slightly mean, I’ll like it.

  105. 105.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    @MikeJ: but George Clooney is a man. Seeing his naked bottom means nothing. He’s divorced with no kids (just as Judd soon will be) and he has very liberal politics.

    And yet, I sure bet the KY Establishment Dems would certainly welcome a Clooney candidacy. And they certainly wouldn’t be worried about his nakedness

    it’s a double standard, pure and simple

  106. 106.

    imonlylurking

    March 11, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I certainly hope the Republicans do to Judd what they did to Al Franken. They took a snippet of video of Al imitating Paul Wellstone being agitated about something and tried to make people think that Al was an angry liberal. Totally failed. If that’s their worst-bring it.

  107. 107.

    Warren Terra

    March 11, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    @MomSense:

    Did you see him in the series Wallander? Not hammy at all. Even though it can be gruesome–it is very well done.

    Wallander lost me with the first series of episodes, when (SPOILERS) the case developed from being the investigation of a local crime to being a race against time to stop a world-spanning plot to destroy all of Western Civilization, which only Baranagh’s character could accomplish, almost by himself. Too overblown, too portentious.

  108. 108.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 11, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    @ChrisNYC: The difference between God and Bono? God doesn’t think he’s Bono.

  109. 109.

    Steeplejack

    March 11, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    Feature, not bug. The Henning Mankell novels, especially the later ones, can get preachy about big social issues, and Firewall is about the worst (in that sense).

    I like the Swedish series better. It’s a little more low-key and a bit more of an ensemble piece. The Branagh series is sort of Wallander-centric.

  110. 110.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 11, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    @lamh35: it’s a double standard, pure and simple

    Also, too, Scott Brown.

  111. 111.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    @Todd:

    I dunno. The local right wing hag for Clear Channel has a daily three hour hate here in Louisville (to the exclusion of most items of local interest), and she is already landing blows.

    It’s not going to stay local. The left will promote that stuff nationally. Painting the GOP as the party of angry screeds is the current formula, and there’s nothing wrong with nutpicking folks screaming over a 50,000 watt transmitter. The last thing the GOP wants are a nation of People magazine readers hearing Republican pundit after pundit launching epithets at Winona Judd’s lovely sister.

  112. 112.

    raven

    March 11, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    @Chris: Geology/Ecology

  113. 113.

    ChrisNYC

    March 11, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ha! True nough.

  114. 114.

    gene108

    March 11, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    @askew:

    but about them going after her mental health issues and her recent divorce

    With divorce rates as high as they are and with the divorce being amicable, I don’t know how much you can make out of the divorce, other than a snicker campaign about how she’s a dyke.

    Mental health issues can be a liability. Given the fear mongering about the mentally ill being responsible for all the gun homicides in the country and the general contempt people have for mental illness, I can see this being too much to overcome.

    It really depends, if Judd does run, if she can get ahead of it and define the mental health issue on her terms, before the opposition defines it.

    Which means she has to start talking about it now, before the right-wing media jumps on it, which could be any day now.

    I also think her open acknowledgement of not being Christian could hurt her in the Bible Belt. She has a lot of name recognition, but stuff like that can be used to define her as too radically different than the normal Kentuckian.

  115. 115.

    Todd

    March 11, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    @? Martin:

    It’s not going to stay local. The left will promote that stuff nationally. Painting the GOP as the party of angry screeds is the current formula, and there’s nothing wrong with nutpicking folks screaming over a 50,000 watt transmitter. The last thing the GOP wants are a nation of People magazine readers hearing Republican pundit after pundit launching epithets at Winona Judd’s lovely sister.

    Thing is, the bit about her therapy dog and her depression will not play well here.

    http://abcnews.go.com/entertainment/t/blogEntry?id=15955857

    Her living in Tennessee won’t hurt – hell, she’s spent more time here than Yertle the past 20 years, but personal weakness is a killer unless she’s thought up dynamite messaging.

  116. 116.

    Soonergrunt

    March 11, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    @askew: Paul did that ENTIRELY on name recognition.

  117. 117.

    Todd

    March 11, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    @gene108:

    Which means she has to start talking about it now, before the right-wing media jumps on it, which could be any day now.

    Already has, locally.

  118. 118.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 11, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Speaking of Scottie Brown, is his new lobbying job essentially his retirement from electoral politics?

  119. 119.

    Warren Terra

    March 11, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Speaking of Scottie Brown, is his new lobbying job essentially his retirement from electoral politics?

    He’s working out of the Boston office of the law firm, not the DC office, which may suggest that he retains electoral ambitions in Massachusetts.

  120. 120.

    lamh35

    March 11, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    @Todd: ok, here’s the thing. McConnell has an upside down approval rating (55% disapprove, 35% disapproval). Lawerence has a poll up that said that only 17% of Kentuckian said they would vote for McConnell, 34% said they would vote against McConnell no matter who was running and 44% said their vote depends on who is running.

    Now who does the Dems in KY have that can beat McConnell, who do they have that can match him in fundraising, free media, on-camera interviews, etc. By virtue of name recognition alone, she will be able to totally dominate free media resources without even tapping into her paid media until she needs to.

    I admit, I’m not from KY, so I’d like to ask those who are familiar with the state, who do the Dems truly have that can compete with McConnell, and also, there has to be a reason why Rove et al have already started trying to go after Judd even before she “declares”.

    I’m with those who say that McConnell would rather be up against the usual male blue dog Dem which he has beat countless number of times or a new commodity, that he has to firstly walk a fine line between not appearing sexist and aggressive (especially with how that worked out for Repubs in last election) while still trying to make sure that he isn’t primaried by a more “conservative” pol

  121. 121.

    Concerned Citizen

    March 11, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    I like this site because I read the last comments first. For example look at post 117 By Todd. Read it and then click on the link from @gene108.

    Then for every post click the @ links. It’s like the movie Memento. I’m going to tattoo @22over7 to my arm so I’ll remember this.

  122. 122.

    ? Martin

    March 11, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    @Todd:

    Thing is, the bit about her therapy dog and her depression will not play well here.

    Doesn’t matter. The threat from liberals isn’t to save her in that race. The threat is to poison the populace against the GOP in the other 49 states. KY GOP may defeat her, but the tactics of the KY GOP against an actress which is quite popular nationally will be credited to the GOP broadly. Nobody will care how it plays in KY or what your local attitudes toward depression is, the DNC will use that imbalance to leverage anger against Republicans to win other senate and house seats all around the country where attitudes toward depression are quite different. Yeah, she’ll get thrown under the bus, but that’s politics.

    The issue is really whether the national GOP will allow the KY GOP to do this. I’m sure they’re divided over this. They won’t want to lose McConnell’s seat, but they could lose a lot more trying to save it.

  123. 123.

    gene108

    March 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    @? Martin:

    house seats all around the country where attitudes toward depression are quite different.

    Attitudes towards depression are pretty uniform nationally; depression (broadly speaking to cover various forms of mental illness) is something most people don’t understand and many view contemptuously because they wouldn’t be “sad” in a similar situation and unable to take constructive action.

  124. 124.

    LanceThruster

    March 11, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist:

    His non-fiction book “Last Chance To See” about endangered species world wide was quite the eye opener while at the same time wonderfully sardonic.

  125. 125.

    dance around in your bones

    March 12, 2013 at 2:43 am

    @raven: Yeah, my parents divorced when I was 15. which was when I ran off with my (eventual) husband.

    I have been talking so much with my mom that I have gotten laryngitis. (Freudian! haha!)

  126. 126.

    dance around in your bones

    March 12, 2013 at 3:00 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Thanks steep – I have been talking so much with my mom that I haven’t had time to hang out in my favorite place and bitch and moan!

    You would not believe how my voice sounds right now. I sound like a drunken sailor or a long-time smoker. Oh well.

  127. 127.

    Jacel

    March 12, 2013 at 3:12 am

    For the record, here’s the continuing link to the Douglas Adams doodle:

    http://www.google.com/doodles/douglas-adams-61st-birthday

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