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You are here: Home / Immigration / The Brown Enemy Within / ICYMI: Marco Rubio Is Cuban

ICYMI: Marco Rubio Is Cuban

by @heymistermix.com|  April 8, 201310:35 am| 37 Comments

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Which means, compared to other Hispanics, Rubio has very little skin in the immigration game. His core constituency has a huge pass in immigration law, compared to other Latinos, because as soon as a Cuban sets foot on US soil, they’re refugees, not illegal immigrants. So when Josh Marshall notes that Rubio is slow-playing immigration reform so that it will be as bloodied up as possible once it gets through Congress, and perhaps be killed, the only risk that Rubio is taking, personally, is perhaps to his Presidential ambitions, because the only way his core constituents would be upset would be if they lost their privileged immigration status. Rubio has insulated himself against that possibility by becoming the chief Republican deal-maker. It’s a neat trick that’s not often remarked upon in the coverage of Rubio’s role in immigration reform.

 

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    April 8, 2013 at 10:39 am

    , the only risk that Rubio is taking, personally, is perhaps to his Presidential ambitions

    No small thing IMHO.

  2. 2.

    peach flavored shampoo

    April 8, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Which means, compared to other Hispanics, Rubio has very little skin in the immigration game.

    Yes, but Average Joe doesn’t realize the diff, so a failure on his part here torpedoes this 2016 chances.

  3. 3.

    Yutsano

    April 8, 2013 at 10:44 am

    the only way his core constituents would be upset would be if they lost their privileged immigration status

    This may be true for the older Cubanos who are (still) waiting for Castro to die so they can go back to their privileged lives in Cuba, but the young’uns could give a shit about wet foot/dry foot. Rubio only won because he was in a three way race and Crist couldn’t get Sink to drop out and vice versa. If he were in a head-to-head match-up I doubt he’d have the job of Senator now. Not to mention a lot of his hijinks with the party in Florida are going strangely unexplored.

  4. 4.

    Biff Longbotham

    April 8, 2013 at 10:45 am

    compared to other Hispanics, Rubio has very little skin in the immigration game

    Makes me wonder how many Americans today screaming about letting in all of those illegals, granting amnesty, blah blah etc., are the children or grandchildren of post WWII displaced persons from Europe.

  5. 5.

    c u n d gulag

    April 8, 2013 at 10:47 am

    You’ve got to love it, that Republicans think all people with a Latino/Hispanic heritage are pretty much the same.

    And they assume that ALL of them will vote for either Rubio or Cruz because of their last names.

    Pssssst…
    No one clue them in on the fact that Cubans are not exactly the most beloved group in the American Latino/Hispanic world.

  6. 6.

    c u n d gulag

    April 8, 2013 at 10:49 am

    @Biff Longbotham:
    I’m one of them, first generation and all of that, and I know a few like that.

    But, you see, most of the people coming here after WWII were Caucasians, so THAT was ok.
    Not like now…

  7. 7.

    feebog

    April 8, 2013 at 10:51 am

    @ Peach Colored Shampoo:

    It doesn’t matter what the “Average Joe” thinks about Rubio’s Latino roots. What matters is how many Latino’s buy his bullshit. And frankly, all the Latino’s I know who are politically aware know the guy is a lightweight.

  8. 8.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 8, 2013 at 10:58 am

    @c u n d gulag: I’m in the same group. They justify it by saying “but they [parents, grandparents] came here legally.”

  9. 9.

    Chris

    April 8, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Which means, compared to other Hispanics, Rubio has very little skin in the immigration game.

    Even less than the average Cuban, since his family came to America before the Revolution and not after. He can’t even claim “I was driven out by the dirty Reds,” even though he’s tried to.

    I see conservatives who promote Rubio as engaging in the age-old tradition of promoting a minority to show they’re not racist – which is to say, it’s not actually aimed at minorities, so much as it is at “moderate” whites who might have enough scruples that they don’t want to vote for a racist party, but will be satisfied by “us racist? We have black friends!” as an answer.

    They haven’t yet figured out it’s not moderate white people they have to worry about anymore, but actual nonwhite voters – and the vast majority of them see the cheap tokenism for what it is.

  10. 10.

    GregB

    April 8, 2013 at 11:09 am

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    But the average Juan and Juanita do. Which makes his slow walking efforts even more disgraceful.

    Looking forward to the day when someone actually asks him this question to his face.

  11. 11.

    some guy

    April 8, 2013 at 11:10 am

    when Rubio’s parents came here they were illegal immigrants. this was before wet foot/dry foot. one would think that as a child of illegal immigrants he might have some empathy?

  12. 12.

    some guy

    April 8, 2013 at 11:12 am

    @Yutsano:

    ion fact, Obama won the majority of Cuban voters in Florida in 2012. surprising, but true nonetheless

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 8, 2013 at 11:13 am

    @some guy: Any support for the claim that Rubio’s parents were illegal immigrants? It is my understanding that the immigrated legally and eventually became citizens.

  14. 14.

    JPL

    April 8, 2013 at 11:14 am

    @some guy: haha.. Justice Thomas is against affirmative action also.

  15. 15.

    mistermix

    April 8, 2013 at 11:15 am

    @Baud: I don’t think that Rubio’s Presidential ambitions would be much affected by the failure of immigration reform. He’s not going to get the nomination by touting his reform credentials to the base.

  16. 16.

    peach flavored shampoo

    April 8, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @feebog: Trust me, I’m well-aware that Average Juan knows that Rubio is a phony, not a true Hispanic, and enjoys an immigration double-standard that’s patently absurd. Thats money in the bank. But most moderates are likely unaware of this, and so they’ll see his tanking the immigration bill as him throwing “his own” under the bus.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    April 8, 2013 at 11:20 am

    @mistermix:

    Republican nominees like to have a “hook” that makes them seem moderate during the general campaign.

    Romney: Worked with Mass. Democrats
    McCain: Campaign finance reform
    Bush: “Compassionate conservatism.”

    Can’t remember before that. I think Rubio was counting on immigration to do that for him, plus to help with Hispanic voters. But maybe his calculus has changed.

  18. 18.

    Punchy

    April 8, 2013 at 11:32 am

    If Marc Rubio is Cuban, anyone know if Mark Cuban is a rube?

  19. 19.

    aimai

    April 8, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Does anyone really think that someone like Rubio is bucking for more than the second banana spot, VP, first time of asking? I mean, I know its said that every Senator gets up in the morning and sees a President looking back at him in the mirror while he shaves but if Rubio isn’t a great immigrant hope he isn’t going to win a general election, and if he is he is going to lose the republican primary. His best hope of raising himself to presidential politics is to serve to offer some cover on the immigration issue to a more standard republican candidate–like Sarah Palin tried to offer McCain some “cred” on some issues that she personified (i.e. the false assertion that having her in the white house would be ‘good for families with special needs children.’) In other words: if Rubio’s going to be a token he needs to shore up his token bonafides and “stand in” for something that the Republicans as a party need. They don’t need another asshole standing in for opposing immigrant rights. They need someone to soften their edges while still showing the mailed fist to their own supporters.

  20. 20.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    April 8, 2013 at 11:37 am

    @Baud:

    Republican nominees like to have a “hook” that makes them seem moderate during the general campaign.

    Except that they’ve worked their base up to such a frenzy that even a hint of moderation during the primaries will undo a candidate. Tacking back toward center now gets a putative Republican nominee just about to the far right.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    April 8, 2013 at 11:41 am

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    That was supposedly Romney’s dilemma, but he tacked right for the primary and then left for the general, and the base just went along with both lies. Maybe it’ll be different in 2016 without the Obama hate, though. We’ll see.

  22. 22.

    Chris

    April 8, 2013 at 11:46 am

    @c u n d gulag:

    But, you see, most of the people coming here after WWII were Caucasians, so THAT was ok.

    At the time, was it really? The fifties was the last decade where “Real America” was not just white, but WASP, and the crowd of non-Anglos from off the boat, even if they’d managed to carve out a place for themselves, were still viewed with a lot of suspicion (see also all the anti-Catholic stuff that was levied at Kennedy).

    Nowadays that’s all been smoothed over in popular memory, of course.

  23. 23.

    Suffern ACE

    April 8, 2013 at 11:47 am

    @Baud: Romney tacked left for exactly o e debate performance. There was no follow through on that.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    April 8, 2013 at 11:48 am

    @Suffern ACE:

    There didn’t need to be a follow through given today’s media.

  25. 25.

    Yutsano

    April 8, 2013 at 11:50 am

    @Baud: The follow through was: did BoBo get a tingly feeling up his leg? Teh Village went forward from that.

  26. 26.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    April 8, 2013 at 11:52 am

    @Chris:
    My dad, a descendant of Czech immigrants, was born in a suburb of Cleveland in 1920. He often mentioned that while he was growing up non-WASPs were routinely referred to as Hunkies, Guineas, or Wops.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    April 8, 2013 at 11:52 am

    @Yutsano:

    The polls are skewed! It’s a horse race — either one could win!

    Fuckers.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    April 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    been saying he was a fraud from the get go.

  29. 29.

    Violet

    April 8, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Speaking of Cuba, the wingnut meltdown over Beyonce and Jay-Z visiting Cuba has been interesting to watch. Somehow I don’t think that if Kelsey Grammer and his newest wife (or pick another wingnut celeb) visited Cuba there would be quite the same outrage.

  30. 30.

    SatanicPanic

    April 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Why are you trying divide Latinos?

    Liberals are the real racists.

  31. 31.

    aimai

    April 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    @Chris:

    Not to mention the fact that the US famously refused entry to Jews during the war–even turning boatloads away. Refugees after the war, if that means Jews, have remained very clear on the necessity for expanded immigration and generally support immigrant rights in memory of the struggles of their grandparents and great grandparents.

  32. 32.

    CDW

    April 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    the only risk that Rubio is taking, personally, is perhaps to his Presidential ambitions…

    This might keep Rubio from winning in 2016, but I doubt that it will keep him or any of the other likely republican contenders from running. I’m hoping the 2016 republican primaries and general election race will be as entertaining as 2012.

  33. 33.

    reflectionephemeral

    April 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    @feebog:

    It doesn’t matter what the “Average Joe” thinks about Rubio’s Latino roots. What matters is how many Latino’s buy his bullshit. And frankly, all the Latino’s I know who are politically aware know the guy is a lightweight.

    Republicans don’t know that– they think that to win Hispanic votes they need to learn how to translate phrases like “makers vs. takers” and “death panels” into Spanish. So this plays well with all the folks who can help Rubio in his party.

    Of course you’re right– this does zero for Rubio or the GOP in the wider world. (Maybe some “undecideds” (read: “low-information voters”) will be impressed, for some reason, but not many, and the blowback would probably counterbalance it anyway).

  34. 34.

    Pococurante

    April 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    … because as soon as a Cuban sets foot on US soil, they’re refugees, not illegal immigrants.

    I had forgotten this. Age…

    It explains why some many Cuban-Americans oppose lifting the blockade and a reminder of the blatant unfairness of the blockade policy:

    This provision is one more example of the hypocrisy that runs throughout our immigration policy. Whatever justification existed for the policy prior to 1991 no longer exists. Today, Cuban émigrés are motivated by the same factors that drive immigration from other sending states. The threat of violence faced by most citizens of Guatemala, El Salvador and Mexico is far greater than that faced by Cubans. Moreover, for years officials in these and other sending states responded with greater violence to their critics than Cuba has.

    @Gin & Tonic: And when restrictions were almost non-existent.

  35. 35.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    April 8, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    All one has to do to wrong-foot Rubio is ask him in a public forum:

    “how about we give ALL immigrants the same deal that the CUBANS get?”

    and just watch the sputtering and squirming.

  36. 36.

    Another Halocene Human

    April 8, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    @Yutsano: Not to mention a lot of his hijinks with the party in Florida are going strangely unexplored.

    Gee, you mean the state GOP can’t police itself? And the rump Florida Democratic Party is a disorganized grifterscape?

    Whatever tipped you off? ///

  37. 37.

    Kyle

    April 8, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Anecdotally, the Hispanics in California, mostly of Mexican origin, don’t see Rubio as one of their own, even aside from his noxious politics. Cubans seem to be disliked as arrogant by people of Mexican and Central American origin. They don’t give a crap about Castro-expropriation sob stories because their forebears never had much to begin with.

    So if the GOP proudly-ignorant parochials think “He’s brown, so all the browns will vote for him”, they’re in for a surprise.

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