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Don’t blame me for this, blame the Great Orange Satan, which is where I found it.

Seriously, though, I bet nothing amuses Jay-Z more than being lectured on rap by a woman so white you can almost see through her. We white people just need to recognize we don’t have a really deep bench when it comes to rappers. I’ll give us Eminem and the Beastie Boys, and after that, you have to go back to Vanilla Ice (shudder). Beyond that, the only white rappers I can think of off the top of my head are Karl Rove and Dancing Dave Gregory and now Dana Perino with Greg Gutfield as hype man.

Like I said, it’s not a deep bench.

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  2. 2.

    Little Boots

    rebublican are hopeleoss.

    but omens, sorry if I embarrassed you the other night. that is not okay.

  6. 6.

    Mnemosyne

    Just a reminder to everyone that Cuba policy expert Dana Perino had never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis before her husband explained it to her. And she only asked him because someone asked a question that involved it during a press conference and she didn’t know what it was.

    Which makes her totally qualified to lecture the rest of us on our Cuba policy.

  9. 9.

    kdaug

    Y’all are going to hate me for this, but this has been my earworm for the last hour.

    Wife will be home in an hour. I need to clean up.

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    So…. she’s a white freedom warrior, feared by Beyoncé? And Jay-Z spending a week in Cuba means he renounced his citizenship? I wonder if Michelle Malkin has the self-awareness to be grateful that she’s not the most clownish right-wing would-be musical satirist this weekend.

    (Nah, I don’t really wonder).

  13. 13.

    Linda Featheringill

    Oh, dear. The girl ain’t got no soul, but that probably isn’t the way it’s expressed nowadays.

  14. 14.

    MikeJ

    @efgoldman:

    On the other hand, I wonder how many people born late-80s or later know about the Berlin Wall.

    I hold White House press secretaries to a higher standard than I would a random person off the street.

  15. 15.

    Rita R.

    So puzzling that African-Americans aren’t warming up to the GOP when you’ve got outreach like dipshit Dana’s “rap” and Rand Paul’s “Hey did you guys know Lincoln was a Republican?” attempted history lesson at Howard. Keep it up guys!

  16. 16.

    RaflW

    Cuba policy expert Dana Perino had never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis before her husband explained it to her. And she only asked him because someone asked a question that involved it during a press conference and she didn’t know what it was.

    Well I supposed Dubya did need to surround himself with historically illiterate morans while in office.

    Its slightly miraculous that the earth didn’t end up a smoking, cesium-coated cinder at any point in his eight years ‘leading’ our once great nation.

  17. 17.

    Mark S.

    So that’s The Five show I one time asked about. I guess I have seen bits of it while walking thru waiting rooms and the like.

    I think I’d rather watch an hour of Hannity jacking off than that.

  18. 18.

    hilzoy

    You really have to feel for the guy who says that’s the funniest thing he’s ever seen in his life. Because given the number of genuinely funny things out there, the fact that he’s missed all of them is pretty tragic.

  19. 19.

    Burnspbesq

    In the words of my favorite Canadian singer -songwriter

    “The trouble with normal is it always gets worse.”

  20. 20.

    Petorado

    Beltway Republicans should just give up on trying to be funny. Oozing hatred, vitriol, and condescension just isn’t humorous, and that’s all they seem to have.

  21. 21.

    Valdivia

    @Mnemosyne:

    My favorite part of that Wait, Wait is when she confessed that her husband said to her “oh, Dana!”. I bet she gets that a lot. Specially after this catastrophe.

  23. 23.

    Alison

    I am not going to watch that. YOU CAN’T MAKE ME.

    OT with a very random question: anyone here knowledgeable about spiders? Like, if I describe one to you, could you tell me what it might be? Because I seriously do not want to Google image search that shit…

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Twenty-seven seconds. That’s how far I made it. She does make me nostalgic for when Vanilla Ice was the worst thing to happen to rap.

  25. 25.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @hilzoy: You really have to feel for the guy who says that’s the funniest thing he’s ever seen in his life.

    Is he laughing with her, or….

    @Baud: I’m betting Dana’s iPod has a lot of Wilson Phillips and NKTOB

  26. 26.

    Citizen Alan

    Left completely untouched in this nontroversy (as per usual in any discussion of the Cuban Embargo) is that the embargo probably has more to do with protecting U.S. business interests than with somehow undermining Cuban communism. I’m sure Big Tobacco and Big Sugar both lobby heavily to keep the embargo running, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the AMA doing the same in order to cut down on medical tourism.

  27. 27.

    Rita R.

    @Mnemosyne:

    Being so ignorant totally qualified her for a job at Fox though.

    @Mark S.:

    I think I’d rather watch an hour of Hannity jacking off than that.

    Ah hell, I’ve got a picture in my mind now… Ugh. Need to rewatch a video of Miguel’s SNL performance as a cleanse.

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne

    @Valdivia:

    Oh, hey, I was thinking of you because I heard about a movie that came out last year called No, which is the story of the referendum that voted Pinochet out of office. Apparently it was one of the Best Foreign Language Film nominees at the Oscars (which is what I get for not paying attention to the Oscars anymore). Have you heard of it?

  30. 30.

    Suffern ACE

    @Alison: go ahead. Need to know where you saw it, what part of the country you’re in, color, marking? Was it waxy or fuzzy? This might keep me busy.

  34. 34.

    Yutsano

    @Anya: He’s got a helluva lot of work cut out for him. After the disaster that was Ignatieff, Canada is practically a two-party state. They’re gonna have to find a province to rebuild their base and distinguish themselves from the NDP. And I’m not even getting into the whole political dynasty thing.

    (Fixteth the pronouns. Grazie Comrade Mary! I knew I shoulda Googled first!)

  38. 38.

    Robert

    Rap is a hard form of music. You need to have rhythm (which Dana lacks), the ability to write (which Dana lack), and a voice that interests people (which Dana lacks). You can easily see how she failed so miserably at it.

  39. 39.

    Deffrey Jahmer

    You forgot the Insane Clown Posse, Cole. Magnets or no, they remain a genuine hip-hop phenomenon. So their fans are poorly educated and blue collar-aren’t those the people who need help the most?

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman: If one is the Presidential Press Secretary, I expect a certain degree of knowledge. I know, I know, I am a fucking elitist snob. But being cute isn’t quite enough.

  41. 41.

    Valdivia

    @Mnemosyne:

    Oh yes absolutely. Amazing movie and really quite inspiring because what makes the Chilean movement so unique is that they just decided to take Pinochet and his laws at their word and they won. I highly recommended.

  43. 43.

    Alison

    @Suffern ACE: Okay, I’m in the northern Bay Area in CA. It was outside ON MY FUCKING CAR WINDOW WHILE I WAS DRIVING, scared the crap out of me until I realized it was on the outside and not the inside.

    It was about the size of a dime, maybe. Black with sort of thick fuzzy legs. The biggest thing: the *top* of the back half of the body was bright red. NOT the bottom so it wasn’t a black widow. But it had that back section that comes to kind of a point? And it was red there.

    Anything else needed?

  47. 47.

    Comrade Mary

    @Yutsano: Early polls look decent enough (Trudeau-led Liberals would win back enough NDP support to at least tie or lead the Tories), but we’ll see what happens after a couple of years of attack ads.

  49. 49.

    raven

    @Mnemosyne: I read some pretty critical reviews by folks who were involved in the campaign and felt it was a serious over-simplification of the effort. Also, I think the director’s father was one of the bad guys.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I’ll give us Eminem and the Beastie Boys, and after that, you have to go back to Vanilla Ice (shudder). Beyond that, the only white rappers I can think of off the top of my head are Karl Rove and Dancing Dave Gregory and now Dana Perino with Greg Gutfield as hype man.

    There is Snow. Although he could really be toasting not rapping.

    ETA: And h/t to those mentioning Macklemore.

  52. 52.

    raven

    NO, a review:

    When No was released in Chile, it sparked controversy. Some of this is local. Larrain is the son of rich parents who notoriously backed Pinochet, so it drives the left nuts that he’s the one making movies about the referendum. Yet the more serious charge is that whatever his background, Larrain wound up simplifying, and therefore misrepresenting, what actually happened. His movie suggests that the No vote won because of Rene’s ad campaign, when far more was going on — voter drives that registered millions, trade union activism, articles by suddenly emboldened intellectuals.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    @Valdivia:

    Do you need to know the whole history to enjoy the movie, or are they able to give enough backstory that it’s pretty clear what’s going on? I’m also interested in it from a technical point of view since they shot it on period video cameras to really give it a 1980s look.

  55. 55.

    Rita R.

    @Robert:

    The whole thing was made worse, if possible, when she kept saying, “Rap is easy! Rap is easy!” like a Tea Party myna bird.

  56. 56.

    Yutsano

    @Comrade Mary: I’ll take at least enough for Harper to lose his majority and then see who builds the coalition fastest after that. I’m hoping there are enough byelections out there that could cause Harper to have to call the election early. Hey I can dream can’t I?

  58. 58.

    gbear

    @Mnemosyne: I was quickly reading down the comments to see if anyone mentioned that Macklemore was a great white rapper. Thanks for being first.

    …and I’ll agree. That video makes me cry.

  59. 59.

    Mnemosyne

    @raven:

    Also, I think the director’s father was one of the bad guys.

    You can’t always go by that, though. There are plenty of people who disagree with their parents’ politics and go 180 degrees away from them.

  60. 60.

    Schlemizel

    Republican outreach:
    I don’t know why you colored people don’t vote for us. I bet many of you don’t know that the guy who freed you was a Republican – Oh, you do? Well How about all those people that founded the NAACP over a hundred years ago, those were colored Republicans . . . oh, you knew that too? Well I could go on & tell you about how many great friends of you people have been Republican in the last 60 years . . . Oh, you know that number is zero. Damn, you people are smarter than we thought. Well, vote Republican cuz . . . Lincoln!

  63. 63.

    Suffern ACE

    @Alison: were the two sections of its body about the same size? If so I’m going with red backed jumping spider.

  69. 69.

    Valdivia

    @Mnemosyne:

    well see Raven’s review. But I think that the movie gives enough of a sense about how the referendum won. I think that for someone coming in without a lot of information you get a pretty basic sense of how incredible it was that the referendum happened and that it was successful. I have spoken with quite a few of my friends who were activists back then and they all saw the movie as a good thing. Whatever its faults. No movie on a political subject can ever be perfect. I think for some reason those on the left have mode more movies about what it was like to live under the dictatorship and those movies are incredible and worth watching. Just because this one is made by someone who is not a hard core leftist does not make the movie a good one.

  71. 71.

    Mnemosyne

    @gbear:

    He actually had me at “Thrift Shop,” and “Some Love” just made me love him more. I’m not a big rap or hip-hop fan since I iz an Old, but I like Macklemore.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne

    @raven:

    Yeah, I know, but it’s kind of like the people who say that Thank You for Smoking must be a crappy, conservative movie because Christopher Buckley is William F. Buckley Jr.’s son.

    I mean, I understand people still being angry about what the guy’s family supported, but it sounds like he’s not really whitewashing what happened. I suspect a certain amount of a generation gap — the older people (his parents’ age) are pissed off at this young whippersnapper showing their history to them.

  81. 81.

    Valdivia

    @Mnemosyne:

    I will add that the NPR story that Raven linked says something that is true but really what movie does not simplify the dynamics of a process like the referendum? Where they going to go back to the passing of the constitution? Which is what gave them the out to have the referendum? Do people care about that stuff? I think if you want to have a background on it before seeing it there is a New Yorker piece about it. I will try to fish it out for you.

    On the technical stuff. I think Chileans are fantastic film makers. Have you seen Machuca?

  83. 83.

    mouse tolliver

    Remember when Pamela Sue Martin and Jim Belushi did “white people” rap on SNL? I’ve been trying to find video. I remember it being a fairly good comic illustration of how ridiculous rich white people look when they try to rap.

  87. 87.

    ruemara

    I want all you white people to know I don’t hold you in anyway responsible or view you any lesser because of this.

    And I finished my article for the masses on sustainable seafood. I’m now going to go make shrimp for dinner, but I am feeling so conflicted about it.

  88. 88.

    Mnemosyne

    @Valdivia:

    I’m way, way behind on South American film, but something about No caught my attention (probably because of Pope Francis and the discussions about his possible involvement). If you remember which issue of the New Yorker it was in, G subscribes to it, so we probably still have the copy laying around, or he can get me the article from behind the paywall.

  90. 90.

    Comrade Mary

    @Yutsano: OK, I’ll just quote some captions.

    My family is cold and misunderstood. Can we crash in the corner for tonight? OR SQUISH MY WIFE. THAT’S COOL, TOO.

    Hey man, there was a wasp in here but I got him, I know how you hate wasps, and you know I’m always looking out for you — WHAT’S THE BOOK FOR

    Hey dude, pretty sure I just got the last of the flies. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT DOWN THE FLY SWATTER.

  91. 91.

    Valdivia

    @raven:

    Yeah. Absolutely. This is how they got the referendum passed. First of all the center of activity for many years were labor unions. Then the old political parties (which never really disappeared during the Pinochet era). Also–Catholic Church meetings–groups anchored under it. This didn’t start until the 80s obviously, once the regime had ‘normalized’ but there was activism. The referendum wouldn’t have taken place without coordination and activism.

  92. 92.

    raven

    The is a made for TV film called Katherine where Sissy Spacek play a “Diana Oughton type character. It shows here as a little rich college girl who ends up dying in a terrorist bombing. There are things in the film that rub me the wrong way but it’s a decent story for somenone who has no clue “what was happenin here”. Plus, Art Carney plays her wealthy father.

  94. 94.

    Suffern ACE

    I did go to see No the Movie. It’s fine for following around a certain class and their activities during the referendum. It has some interesting things to show about their mindset and approach to the problem. I understand why they shot the movie so it would look old, but sometimes that made it a little dufficult to watch.

  97. 97.

    Mnemosyne

    @Comrade Mary:

    I refuse to look, but I try not to kill spiders because logically I know they’re useful and keep other bugs at bay. I just don’t want them touching me.

  100. 100.

    cokane

    John Cole:

    Slug, from Atmosphere is an incredibly talented white rapper. Exceeds Eminem in my personal opinion.

    Sage Francis seemed pretty good too, though sometimes depressingly too political. The Streets, (from UK if that counts) also an interesting and talented white guy.

    Atmosphere song rec:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2itjJT4hsE

  103. 103.

    scav

    OK, 3) step program with fair warning so people can jump off at varying degrees of Yech/Ick/Eeek!

    1) Panda Bats! (my name for new species. ETA genus even!)

    2). Dana’s lucky she didn’t confuse her silent E pronunciation or she could have managed a repub outreach three-fer by roping in the wimminz.

    big jump here arachniphobes leave now

    3) New species (plural) discovered in Sri Lanka, some getting as big as your face so long as you count the legs. Poecilotheria metallica is a trip and blue.

  104. 104.

    Woodrow/asim Jarvis Hill

    I couldn’t make it past the 2nd line. My hand moved without any conscious thought, to protect myself from a fatal BSOD over hearing such a wretched interpretation of hip-hop.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Seeing as the venn diagram around White Female rappers is (sadly) a tiny dot where it meets — it’s still amazing that Portman’s rap is FUCKING KICKASS.

    To add to the discussion: Das Racist, and a huge number of the so-called “Nerdcore” artists, like long-standing fav MC Frontalot.

  105. 105.

    Mnemosyne

    @Suffern ACE:

    The review that raven linked to had some interesting thoughts about it partially being about the “Americanization” of Chilean politics — that basically they used the same techniques used to sell Reagan to the American people to get the “No” referendum passed.

  107. 107.

    Dee Loralei

    I don’t get some people. Seriously, Michelle Malkin, Dana Perino and that twatwaffle AtlasJuggs, the anti-muslim bigot all have not only videotaped themselves, dancing or singing or cheering stupid embarrassing shit that I wouldn’t do on a double-dog dare, even if I were snot-slinging drunk. And they are fucking proud of it. Why do these women humiliate themselves, and think it’s a good thing? Or cute or funny? I sincerely don’t get it.

    At least she didn’t make her poor pre-teen daughters do it, Like Atlas did.

    Have they no sense of shame, or decency? Or even humor or parody?

    Just gaaaaaah.

    I despair.

  112. 112.

    Valdivia

    @raven:

    so welcome. The 70s were the height of the repression, and everything I mentioned was truly embryonic for a ling time and subversive and only later above board.

  113. 113.

    Mnemosyne

    @scav:

    Bats don’t bother me. Just spiders and other arachnids — I get the same panicky freaked-out feeling from scorpions.

  117. 117.

    Mnemosyne

    @dance around in your bones:

    I dragged my sickly self out to one more yarn store today so I could say I did the yarn crawl. (I was feeling crappy enough that it almost became a literal crawl at one point.) Since you’re a Kaffe Fassett fan, there’s a young designer whose stuff you might like — Stephen West. He does a lot of things with color and shape, but he works in smaller mediums (hats and scarves).

  119. 119.

    gogol's wife

    @Rita R.:

    I haven’t read the thread yet so I’m probably repeating someone, but I just have to say, her condescension when she says, “Rap is such a complicated form of music,” when she actually thinks it’s primitive and so simple she can do it as well as JayZ — it’s breathtaking! Rap IS complicated! I don’t like it, but anyone who thinks it isn’t difficult and complicated to do well is a complete idiot.

  121. 121.

    Suffern ACE

    @Mnemosyne: if you ignore the riot police and the threats by the junta’s secret police maybe yeah it’s just like America. Where poli sci academics want elections to be intellectual exercises made by an informed electorate on the one hand, and the electorate that actually exists doesn’t vote that way.

  122. 122.

    Violet

    As I said below, it’s a dog whistle to white people: “See how stupid rap is. Black people are praised for being good at rap, but they don’t deserve to be because anyone can do it, as I just proved. Jay-Z isn’t special. See, white people, you’re still better than black people.” Etc.

  123. 123.

    scav

    @Mnemosyne: Scorpions, old white guys spouting Beck . . . utterly rational response. Water chestnuts are high on my list of yearghhh but that’s firmly on the irrational edge, especially as they don’t jump into your shoes at night (zukes might, but they’re easily dealt with).

  127. 127.

    Mnemosyne

    @raven:

    I haven’t. I can’t always handle movies about kids who lose their mothers because mine died when I was seven, but I may add The Secret in Their Eyes to my Netflix queue — thanks!

  129. 129.

    gbear

    @cokane:

    I love The Streets 2nd record ‘A Grand Don’t Come For Free’. A great song cycle with a lot of humor.

    Atmosphere gets a LOT of airplay here in his hometown. I like a lot of his stuff too.

  131. 131.

    raven

    @Mnemosyne: Oh, Central Station is a sad, wonderful, funny beautiful film. The loss of the mother at the beginning is pivotal but the journey across Brazil is wonderful. I get it if you wouldn’t want to see it but it will lift your heart at the end.

  133. 133.

    dance around in your bones

    @scav: When we lived in Tucson, we had bats hanging on the walls and swooping over the swimming pool.

    I thought they were neat. When I was a kid in ABQ there was a boy who would bring a tarantula to school, and we would let it crawl all over our arms and legs. I thought that was cool.

    We used to get rattlesnakes on our old farm in San Diego (I once stepped on a baby rattlesnake whilst barefooted) and we only killed them if they were right close to the house. Otherwise, it was live and let live. We did have a couple of dogs who got bitten by rattlesnakes, and after the first couple of times (and many large vet bills later) we just kept track of WHERE they had been bitten (closer to the head or heart is bad) and let them work it out. All survived.

    I just don’t stress too much about spiders and snakes and scorpions (had experience with THEM, too! in Tucson). Just stay out of their way, if possible.

  137. 137.

    Suffern ACE

    @dance around in your bones: someone posted up the other night that the bats in the east have a bad case of white nose disease. I’ve wanted to get to Carlsbad in the spring to see the bat cloud. I hope I can make a trip before the disease gets there.

  138. 138.

    dance around in your bones

    @ruemara:

    getting?

    Heh. Gotten, done, gonzo creepy for quite a while now. Though I hate to be rude to people.

    @Mnemosyne: Thanks, will check him out. Hope you feel better soon. Knitters gotta crawl/trawl!

  139. 139.

    Narcissus

    Little Boots isn’t that creepy so far as internet creepery goes.

    Not nearly like that dude who kept talking to Alison when she wasn’t even commenting.

  140. 140.

    JPL

    @raven: When my niece graduated for UT several years ago, we stayed in a hotel across the street. It is a pretty awesome sight.

  144. 144.

    dance around in your bones

    @raven:

    We already talked about Cholla’s?

    Yeah, the jumping cactus. Gotta get out the pliers for that.

    @Suffern ACE: Our bats just hung around on the walls and swooped over the pool at night, catching bugs. Never knew about nose diseases and never worried about it, maybe we were stupid. But never got bit or hassled by them!

    The little tiny clear scorpions that hung out in the old wood worried me a bit – not those big ones that look so much more scary. But never got bit by those either. Hunh!

  146. 146.

    tybee

    @Comrade Mary:

    jumping spiders are cool.

    once had one living in base of my bedside lamp.

    late one afternoon, we lured houseflies to the bedroom by turning off lights in one room while turning them on in the next. the flies followed the light from the kitchen into the den into the hallway into the bedroom.
    turned the lamp on and i set the lid to a cottage cheese container by the lamp as bait.
    the flies buzzed around, occasionally lighting to snack a bit.
    eventually, the spider came out of the base of the lamp, waving its front legs, stalked and then stabbed a housefly in the head, dragged it into the lamp while the fly buzzed wildly.

    the buzzing began to slow and went silent…

    highly entertaining. :)

  148. 148.

    Hill Dweller

    @raven:

    Adam Scott the 1st Aussie!

    I like both players, and would have happy whomever won. But good on Scott for going out and actually winning it, birdieing four of the last eight holes he played.

  149. 149.

    dance around in your bones

    I used to have several fire-bellied toads, and would expend quite a bit of time crawling around on the porch scooping up crickets for them – also swooping a butterfly net over piles of dog poop for flies to feed them.

    I smuggled them back on a plane to San Diego in a kind of deli container from a shop in San Francisco. I loved those little toads.

    I found them after going to the ‘reptile’ shop with a friend in SF who had a Mexican burrowing toad – he would go there to buy baby rats to feed the toad, who otherwise would spend all its time under the sand in his tank thingy. Always seemed like a weird pet to have, to me.

  151. 151.

    AxelFoley

    @Mnemosyne:

    You can’t always go by that, though. There are plenty of people who disagree with their parents’ politics and go 180 degrees away from them.

    Off the top of my head, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.

  152. 152.

    dance around in your bones

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well, I have – a while back – come to the conclusion that the only pets I want are ones that willingly hang around me…..namely, dogs and cats. I don’t like caging anything up or holding them against their will. Especially birds,

    I even used to feel guilty about the two horses that we had, like – why should I get to ride on their backs? Even though I loved doing it.

  154. 154.

    White Trash Liberal

    Other great white rappers:

    Lord Grunge of Grand Buffet
    Princess Superstar
    Edan the Humble Magnificent
    Beck (Mellow Gold/Odelay era)

  157. 157.

    Anya

    @Yutsano: I think he has natural political instinct that will serve him. Also, he’s linked to two major provinces so he will connect well with Canadians. I read somewhere that 60% of registered liberal party members are over 50. I think that’s their challenge. They need to inspire young people.

  161. 161.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @MomSense: If you have spiders, the air in your house is pretty good. If they start dying, look for mold or other crap.

  165. 165.

    Jebediah

    @Comrade Mary:

    I never kill a spider I catch in the house – I always put them outside. But plenty of times I don’t bother catching them. They just want to eat some flies…

  168. 168.

    Bobbo

    To be fair Debra Harry and Blondie brought rap to a wider (also whiter) audience back in the day with “rapture”

  169. 169.

    Librarian

    @efgoldman: Not being able to remember a historical event does not absolve one from not knowing about it. Any person of any age who is decently educated should know about the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile Crisis regardless of whether they were “before their time” or not.

  174. 174.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    I’d add House of Pain to that list but it still doesn’t make a full team much less a deep bench.

  175. 175.

    Vlad

    @Wayne t: Seconded on 3rd Bass. Serch and Prime Minister Pete Nice were legit.

    Among other things, they gave a young MF DOOM his first big break, as a guest vocal on “The Gas Face”.

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    jon

    @JR:

    I really hope Jay-Z releases a track called “Bay ofBaying Pigs” about these imbeciles.

    Fixed.

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    Chet Manly

    Had to delurk because almost 200 comments into a white rapper thread nobody’s mentioned Brother Ali.

    Hell, he’s an albino so he’s even whiter than Perino.

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    Mitch

    Sorry John, I love you man, but you are completely ignorant about hip-hop. Your knowledge of it doesn’t penetrate the most superfluous radio bullshit, so best not to even bother going there. There are a TON of great white MCs who are well-respected within the genre.

    Most prominently, El-P, founder of one of the most respected hip-hop labels of the 2000s, Def Jux
    Aesop Rock
    Cage
    Slug
    Brother Ali
    Despot
    RA the Rugged Man
    Vinnie Paz
    Edan the Humble Magnificent
    Sage Francis

    That’s just off the top of my head. Stick to the Grateful Dead, my man.

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