Small bit of cheering news, from NYMag:
More than a year after Rush Limbaugh’s assessment of Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke as a “slut” for advocating federally subsidized birth control, the broadcaster that carries his show is experiencing a “residual hangover” in its ad sales thanks to the boycotts Limbaugh’s comments sparked. At least, that’s how Lew Dickey, the CEO of Cumulus Media, has characterized the lingering slump. Limbaugh disagrees, and he’s now threatening to take his show elsewhere if Dickey keeps blaming him. If Limbaugh left Cumulus, the company would lose the rights to broadcast his show on its 40 radio stations, including WABC in New York….
In the weeks after Limbaugh’s comments caused a national uproar there was talk he could be taken off the air, or even replaced by someone such as Mike Huckabee, but all that amounted to nothing, and it looked like the Fluke episode would leave the host and those who carry him unscathed. Clearly, though, that hasn’t been the case. The Fluke fiasco may yet drive Limbaugh off the stations that carry him in some of his biggest markets.
Apart from toasting confusion to our enemies, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Yeah, Cumulus, you won’t be able to fire me. I QUIT!
It seems to me these guys make a mistake when they go after issues that people have personal experience of. That’s why Terri Schiavo didn’t work for them. Lots of people have had to make end of life decisions and they didn’t want the federal govt interfering.
Similarly, almost all sexually active women use birth control and they don’t believe that makes them sluts. Plus Rush just kept on and kept on and went way over the top.
There’s apparently a very vigorous Twitter campaign. My feed always has some sponsor’s Twitter ID with a “Limbaugh said this and that, aren’t you ashamed to sponsor this message?” or the like.
Higgs Boson's Mate
I predict layoffs at Purdue Pharma.
I have a new record player that I chose a few weeks ago from an assortment of gifts as a reward for passing some milestone anniversary at work. I now need records. I’m thinking what I want to use it for are novelty and comedy albums. A lot of those albums don’t seem to be transferred to other formats and there isn’t a big collectors market for them (which means they are cheap to buy). Any suggestions for pre-1985ish records that I should seek out? I’ve got some Moms Mobley and Jonathan Winters coming. But could use other suggestions.
Higgs Boson's Mate
Bob Newhart, Red Foxx.
Yeah, sure, there’s some sort of satisfaction in Limbaugh leaving/being kicked out of his radio gig. But honestly, this guy will never have to work another day in his life. He made millions spewing out his particular brand of venom. But will he stop being a significant voice to the Repub base?
If you want music, Spike Jones.
More mysteries of the Google Adutronic 3000: What websites did I visit that I’m now being spammed by ads for oscilloscopes?
Firesign Theater, Monty Python, Stan Freberg, Nichols and May….
Beyond the Fringe
I wish I had a hundred bucks for every time I have heard that the bloated pustual was losing advertisers and listeners and was going to lose stations and blah and blah and blah.
I could afford to retire while Mush continues to poison the airways and this nation.
Oh, forgot Tom Leher.
Anything by Firesign Theatre.
“How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You’re Not Anywhere At All” would be a great place to start.
And fuck a downturn in his ad revenues or ratings or whatever — Limbaugh can’t shuffle off his corpulent mortal coil soon enough, far as I’m concerned.
Not very many people whose actual demise I look forward to (a few, though).
This fucking monster in human guise is top of the list.
@Suffern ACE: Vaughn Meader. Allan Sherman. Bob & Ray. Jean Shepherd…
@dmsilev: That usually happens to me after looking at something at Amazon.
Either that or you just outed yourself as being into spectrum analysis porn. (Not judging.)
The Goon Show, Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band…we can’t stop now, you know?
Bill Cosby & Richard Pryor – both the best at what they do that there has ever been. Second Bob Newhart & Jonathan Winters also both top notch.
Firesign Theater is right up there too
@Suffern ACE: Bob Newhart, Stan Freberg, Richard Pryor, Firesign Theatre, etc. just off the top of my head. All plentiful and cheap. ETA George Carlin!
@Suffern ACE: Cosby, Pryor and Carlin
Maybe head to Dr Demento’s website and look for suggestions there.
Add Shelley Berman to the list.
Wow, uk ok how’s about I bought the new Samsung Galaxy 4, not realizing it was just released like a little over 8 days ago!!! I didn’t even realize it until I just tried to get a otter case for the new phone at best buy on Saturday (I got the phone Thursday, 3 days after it was released). I wanted an Otterbox case, but the only colore they have is black and when I asked the Otterbox rep when the color cases were gonna be released, she said, they don’t have a release date! Ugh. The phone is soo thin, that I’m just too paranoid to NOT have a case on it.
Anyway, my cuz says I always be getting the newest & latest…this time I didn’t even do it on purpose…lol
And how about Rusty Warren and “Knockers Up”? Just kidding, I never listened to it, but that was what the “adults” were giggling to when I was a kid.
@dmsilev: Ripples? Waves? Must explain why I went out and purchased some Lays Potato chips in celebration — last two threads.
@Suffern ACE: This. I used to have a copy; not sure whether I still have it or ot:
You are inadvertently cool.
@gogol’s wife: I still own my parent’s copy of “Knockers Up.” I’m simply unable to get red of any playable vinyl.
Is it funny? I’ve been wondering for 53 years.
@gogol’s wife: The humor is very broad, and I use that word loosely.
If you can find it, The Bickersons.
Cumulus owns WABC in NYC. That’s the first NY station Rush started on. It would be a real kick in the.. if he gets the boot.
@Suffern ACE: You might consider Vaughn Meader’s The First Family, if only as a conversation piece/curiosity. A very gentle satire of JFK and his admin/family, it vanished from record racks immediately after the assassination, and Meader’s career was pretty much spavined.
Talkers publisher Michael Harrison told MSN Money that Limbaugh’s enemies are trying to make too much out of the normal
flukeuations in his ratings. Limbaugh, who began his career in 1984, isn’t in danger of losing his job, Harrison says.
“If he wants to stay on the radio, he certainly can,” Harrison says, adding that if Limbaugh wanted to follow Glenn Beck and Howard Stern into alternative outlets, he could do that, too, and “bring a large segment of his audience with him.”
Sat radio did a lot for Stern, so that’s a hope.
@hoppipolla: Hoppi! What’s shakin’? “The First Family” is excellent. I still have my parent’s copy of that, too. Nice to see you stick your head up around here! Did you ever pull the trigger on an analog rig?
Gonna leave this here: If you have any love at all for Baz Luhrmann’s anachronistic use of music in film, check out his soundtrack for The Great Gatsby. Despite the sullied musical reputations of will.i.am and Fergie of late, their tracks are actually kind of fun. The Jack Black cover of U2’s “Love is Blindness” and the Lana Del Rey and Florence in the Machine tracks are simply killer.
@Baud: heres the funny thing, I distinctly remember looking at the Galaxy S3 maybe a month or two ago, but my Iphone was not cracked at the time, so I was just gonna wait for my usual upgrade and I had already been planning to get away from the Iphone, but then I broke the face and I started looking at the Galaxy III. I was looking at the III and just so happened to see a Galaxy IV and I figured hey, IV gotta be better than one right? I mean there was like 1 review(!!!) for the IV, but I figured IDK, maybe it was refurbished…lol.
Well, enjoy the rest of the week. Next week, the S4 will be outdated. ;-)
I’ll have a chicken sandwich, with a live chicken
“The ahh, rubber ducky, is mine.”
And how could I forget PDQ Bach? “The Stoned Guest”!
The great question is, who will replace Rush, if he leaves Cumulus?
The local Philly talk radio station stopped carrying Rush. They replaced him with a local right-winger and Dick Morris.
The real victory in the war will be to get these stations to start carrying left-wing radio types.
@Ben Franklin: That’s JFK’s Rubbah swaaaan! — from the swan boats in Boston’s Public Gardens, across the street from the State House.
Having the term “toasting” anywhere in the vicinity of the word Ripple is a tad déclassé.
Adding to the excellent suggestions already made:
Mike Nichols & Elaine May
In the fringe/acquired taste arena:
Jonathan & Darlene Edwards (Paul Weston & Jo Stafford)
@Suffern ACE: Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts Band.
@NotMax: Now how the HELL did I forget Lenny Bruce? Gahhhhh!
Do you think there is a market for that? Air America didn’t do so well.
@Baud: You beat me to it. One station has 3 hours of ranting, raving, and human sacrifice. The other has someone reading a biology textbook. Guess which one is right, and which one gets the ratings………..
I can still sing “My daddy is the President / What does your daddy do?”
On a completely different topic, my nominee for addition to the brave women list–Elizabeth Smart.
Not only does she not live in anonymity, she confronts her horrid past by trying to prevent it happening to others, while skewering the society that tries to make the problem go away by ignoring its existence. Bravo.
Damn! I think you’re right, it wasn’t a ducky. My memory is failing.
But I think it was rubbah schwaaan.
@Ben Franklin: A snippet from the piece you linked to:
What kind of fucker who did not listen to Rush Limbaugh before the Sandra Fluke thing would hear about the controversy and say “Oh, man, I am missing some good shit! Got to find me some Rush on MY dial!”?
And supposing there is such a fucker or fuckers in the terrestrial-radio-listening universe, how much disposable income could they possibly command to make them attractive to advertisers? What would a demographic like that look like, exactly?
There’s no money in left wing radio. They might change format and could go sports.
That’s a very interesting question. I have the same experience, except mine is for thermal imagers. Maybe they’ve done some kind of data mining and discovered a link between specific web sites and other purchases that humans would never guess. Stranger things have happened.
@Trollhattan: Wow, that’s heroic
I think in pockets there maybe an audience for it, but generally I don’t think liberals fall into the “ditto head” group think type of listener right-wing radio has as an audience, so they liberals won’t be as tuned into talk radio.
Also, I think the fact there have been so little in the way of liberal talk radio hosts, liberals have just gone elsewhere for information/news/opinions.
I do think there’s a market for some left-of-center reality based commentary, where a host would deconstruct or explain why employment is more important than short term deficits, for example.
There’s a real problem with consumers of media today, in that we do not trust the providers of our content with regards to accuracy, ethics, etc. If someone could fill that void, I think it’d do wonders for their ratings.
And as reality has a liberal bias, you’d get a lefty on the radio by default.
I blame Tom Levenson, and the other professional Smart People here. They’re skewing the curve for the poor little algorithm spiders!
People who are not Dittoheads, but instead tuned in to see the car wreck. “He said WHAT?! No way! Okay, I gotta tune in to see if he is really that bad.”
@Roger Moore: LOL! We have o-scopes and thermal imagers. I get the same thing, only for telescope boxes. Not actual telescopes, mind you, just the boxes. I mean, WTF?
@Haydnseek: The profile they have on you suggests you already own a telescope but that you take appallingly bad care of it.
This is me. I’d like to have a source of information that I can rely on instead of leap frogging to opinion shows, which is how the current media operates.
hmmm, so Lauryn Hill going to jail for not paying her taxes.
Ok, I”m sorry, but man, rich people PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES!!!! Shoot, you got people who poor as hell be struggling to pay $50 damn dollars in taxes. I ain’t got no sympathy for rich folk who know they got taxes to pay, but don’t pay attention or don’t control they own money.
Bet she gonna pay them on time next time!
See this is what’s wrong with some people when they get some money. Oprah gave one bit of advice once about money…”SIGN EVERY DAMN CHECK THAT LEAVES FROM YOUR OFFICE/ACCOUNT”…even if u have to use a darn stamper.
Lauryn Hill, Chris Tucker and the rest of ‘nem, need to stop just letting accountants and personal assistants handle everything.
Oh and if you just have a “principled” objection to paying taxes (I’m talking bout you Wesley Snipes), that’s fine, but guess what, when the taxman cometh, you azz is grass and off IRS prison you go…sorry ta tell ’em.
Ugh rant over.
@Omnes Omnibus: OK, granted. But how many of those “newfound listeners” stuck around for more than half an hour after finding out that he’s lame as shit unless you’re an old fart just addicted to anger?
Conservatives need to be lied to, and liberals hate to be lied to, so there’s an asymmetry there that left wing radio will never be able to take advantage of.
I still miss the knowledgeable and erudite Michael Jackson (he of the radio, not the musical one).
@Omnes Omnibus: I used to own a battered Tele, but sold it to buy a Les Paul. Sorry, but the bad joke virus is going around….
@Dolly Lllama: Fuck if I know. I used to make people turn it off in the office when I was in the army.
@Haydnseek: Greetings, Haydnseek, if that’s really your name. more or less fit for human consumption again, thought i’d pop up and say hi. still dithering about the analog rig — still dithering about quite a lot, actually. thank the FSM for the BJ commenters, all those semi-sane sharp minds are good for morale.
general question: Jackie Vernon must have made some records, no? loved his routine about the pet watermelon.
@Haydnseek: Don’t apologize to me; I don’t write the programs. Good call on the axes though.
@Ben Franklin: oh, lawsy, i’d forgotten about that. haven’t listened to that record since i don’t want to say how long. christ, i’m old.
shouldn’t that be Nipples instead of Ripples? Because mine get hard at the thought that the hypnotoad has to work for a new radio gig to spread his poison.
@hoppipolla: Yep, that’s my nym. Ask me again and I’ll tell ya the sym. Jackie Vernon was very funny. I still remember seeing him on Ed Sullivan or one of those shows doing a slide show—with no slides. He would point a clicker at a blank screen and then describe the image, pushing the narrative along. Good to know you’re OK.
Wikipedia lists two.
@SiubhanDuinne: which song passed through my head the day in ’78 i met Caroline at a preppy friend’s student apartment. fortunately my Tourette’s was under control that day.
(describing a treacherous trek)
Here’s our guide, Guido.
Here’s some quicksand.
Here’s Guido’s hat.
@NotMax: thanks! i had no idea he voiced Frosty the Snowman.
I don’t think you can have a pure left-wing radio format. The ground/audience hasn’t been made fertile for that yet in a broad sense.
Right-wing media started up in the 1970’s and 1980’s for the purpose of pushing the right-wing agenda, even though most of the media – mostly print media – was losing money, but I think the uptick in right-wing media helped make the ground fertile for someone like Rush to come in, by the late 1980’s.
There was a murmur during the 1970’s and 1980’s about “tax and spend” liberals, “welfare queens”, “tax cut magic” and the cult of Reagan and the demonization of the Great Society, to the extent that people believed the rise in teen pregnancies/out-of-wedlock births, in the black community, during the 1980’s was caused by LBJ’s welfare programs and not 300 years of slavery and Jim Crow not being fully remedied.
The shock value of “this is America and we don’t do that”, which accompanied Watergate was already being picked at by right-wingers, with an agenda, as evidenced by the opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment, that had overwhelming support, when it was first proposed.
Anyway, back to the topic of left-wing radio, I do know, when Air America was on, I really did try to listen as much as I could, because it was the only source for counter-arguments to the crap Bush & Co. was pumping out back then.
For all the faults of Air America Radio – a lot of it was with the business model and management, as much as the ratings – it did serve as a platform to get information out regarding, why reforming Social Security isn’t as pressing as Bush & co. made it out to be, for example.
Though I don’t think you can really get a hardcore left-wing radio up and running, because people aren’t ready to embrace it, I do think there’s alternatives to right-wing radio that will be a step to the Left.
People really do want media sources they can trust, because at some level, people know what they have isn’t what right-wingers are promising they should have by following prosperity-Jesus or whatever. They just don’t have the information to really figure out where things have gone wrong.
I remember reading about this stuff quite a while ago. There was some mail order company that crunched numbers behind the scenes and would have its sales people make sales suggestions that appeared to have nothing to do with what the people had ordered, but that the suggestions worked a surprisingly large fraction of the time. For all you know, they’ve decided that you need a telescope case because you buy toilet paper in bulk or were shopping for dish drainers or something just as apparently irrelevant to telescope ownership.
@NotMax: That’s it! Damn, I hadn’t thought of Jackie Vernon in years until Hoppipolla mentioned him. Still funny. Thanks, NotMax.
@Roger Moore: It does sound weird, but apparently it’s effective. I’m now in the market for a telescope to put in my spiffy new case!
Pandora plays a lot of Slightly Stoopid on my reggae/ska revival station. I have to admit they impress me a lot more than they did when I saw them back in 1999. Going acoustic/jam works out a lot better than Sublime-lite.
Speaking of ripples across time:
@Suffern ACE: Tom Lehrer, Andy Griffith, Bill Cosby
Sheesh. 80 comments and no one mentions The Chipmunks? A lot of their older stuff is quite classic.
This is pretty interesting from the NYTs –
Agricultural employers in GA seem to want something akin to slaves working for them – so 21st Century black folks need not apply.
Open thread, huh?
OK, I’ve had 9 hours of sleep in the past 3 days, and a mint julip, and I’m in the mood to pick a fight. So someone say something damn fool stupid about the Marathon Bombing and let’s get this party started.
@different-church-lady: It’s “julep” you stupid-ass fucking git.
@Dolly Lllama: You’re right. I’m tired, just not on my game. Thank you for correct… HEY, I’M DOING THIS ALL WRONG!
Is this lack of sleep common for you? I really don’t see additional acrimony.
If you ever see an album called ‘I, Brute Force – Confections of Love’, buy it immediately.
Has anyone mentioned Don Rickles? He was recording albums in the 60’s.
@different-church-lady: You wanted a fight. It’s the best I could do. Couldn’t think of any stupid Boston shit I could get behind with any fake conviction in order to oblige you. If I can’t get on your fighting side with nitpicks like that, I can’t help you.
@Ben Franklin: I thought, of all people, you’d bring more than that.
Answer: not extremely common. I had two different producers lie to me about the hours over the course of three days. The camera guy actually said to the second one in front of the crew, “You’re a producer. Your lips are moving. That means you’re lying.” And he’s on the same staff as her!
@Dolly Lllama: Well, I thank you for your effort nonetheless.
I really need to look into this conflict-seeking behavior. Apparently I want the duck hunting.
Apparently I want the duck hunting.
I think you mean, Schwaan hunting.
you’d bring more than that.
Compassion, is one of my faults.
@Ben Franklin: Around here it’s not one you use very often.
Also too, Myron Cohen.
Don’t know why, but your comment triggered a particular set of neurons to fire; shall forever have a soft spot for Jackie Mason because of his jab at Nixon.
Phlebitis? He doesn’t have phlebitis, it’s syphilis!
You don’t get phlebitis from screwing 200 million people!
I rarely get the opportunity.
@Suffern ACE: Putting my treasure-trove of obscure wisdom to use, be careful with comedy vinyl. For some reason comedy records tend to be very poorly cared for, and are the most likely of all genres to damage your stylus.
Only because you asked.
(dons Kevlar long johns and hockey mask)
Sounds as if work lately has been a real pressure cooker.
(Forgiveness for that asked for in advance.)
Maybe you should just have a few more of those mint thingies and pass out for 16 hours or so. Sounds like a better approach to your problem than sitting around arguing on a blog. And fuck you if you don’t want to take my brilliant advice.
Balloon Juice is the perfect antidote for a bad day at work! And it doesn’t damage your health or make you fat.
Aren’t you supposed to use Nomex rather than Kevlar when you’re stirring up a flame war?
Okay, “Shopworn Angel” is starting on TCM. I’ve never seen it, but it’s James Stewart, Margaret Sullavan, and Walter Pidgeon, so how can it be bad.
@hoppipolla: I have my parents copy of that. They would never play it after the event.
@Roger Moore: Christ, you’re an idiot!
That was by far the least distasteful of the dozen or so bad japes which my addled, idle mind conjured up, the rest far better pitched into a bottomless pit and left unsaid.
@NotMax: Favorite Myron Cohen punchline: “Alright, give me the fly and I’ll bring you a raisin.”
A favorite oddball Jimmy Stewart scene, gamely working to keep up with the singing and dancing of Eleanor Powell and Buddy Ebsen, among others.
@gogol’s wife: I hope TCM shows the directors cut. Rusty Warren’s cameo is not to be missed.
Should have read all the thread first. But I did see a question about the actual comedy value of Rusty. She works blue. Dark, midnight blue, at least given the time frame. At least that is what it seemed like way back then. I seem to recall I was just old enough to drive the first time I heard her played.
Risquá comedienne/singer (“Bounce Your Boobies”) from the Fifties/Sixties era.
No edit function. Should be:
Lest we ever forget
@Jamie: Detained with Viagra? That’s all it took? I figured it would take repeated strikes with tranquilizer darts loaded with industrial strength doses of weapons grade thorazine to bring down that bellowing shitbag. Those boner pills are more dangerous than I thought.
Moderation? Really? I didn’t know Mr. Boner was on the no-fly list.
Justin Wilson had some good LPs of Cajun humor. Probably of anthropological interest now if only for preserving the accent and patois.
“Cajuns in a Cemetery.”
Moderation? For three hours? Is this FYWP or just FY? Let’s step our game up, shall we?
Albert Brooks had a good album in the ’70s, Comedy Minus One. This routine is on it: “New National Anthem.”
He also did a good bit about opening on tour for Richie Havens.
Mort Sahl’s late ’50s Verve LPs (The Future Lies Ahead, A Way of Life) are a fascinating memento of topical lefty humor in that era.
Tickled that someone with your cybernym doesn’t mention Bob & Ray.
@NotMax: Well, they were already mentioned a couple times upthread so it seemed a little redundant.
@daryljfontaine: You mean Jack White…