I know I’m like ten years late to this, but these Yacht Rock videos crack me up.
Talk about whatever.
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I know I’m like ten years late to this, but these Yacht Rock videos crack me up.
Talk about whatever.
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the Conster
School shooting – in other words, Tuesday.
raven
TROUTDALE, Ore. – The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office says a gunman who opened fire at Reynolds High School Tuesday morning is dead.
It’s unclear how many people were injured in the shooting.
cleek
freedom’s just another word for shootin up a school
Violet
@the Conster: It’s just depressing, isn’t it? It’s not “Oh, no! Another shooting!” It’s “Has today’s shooting happened yet?”
Roger Moore
@cleek:
FTFY.
JPL
There will be a news conference in fifteen minutes by the police in Oregon. From what I read the shooter was in the locker room and a teacher and another student were shot . We should know more soon though. Of course, if there are only two casualties, the right will not label it a mass shooting.
Violet
Unless it’s a white supremacist who did the shooting, the wingnuts will probably be glad for this diversion from the white supremacy shootings in Las Vegas over the weekend. It’ll allow them to blame “dangerous video games” again.
the Conster
@Violet:
Breaking News should be about a day when there isn’t a mass shooting.
Manyakitty
You guys are running screen-blocking pop-up ads now? Booooo.
Suffern ACE
@Violet: We didn’t even have time to analyze the Seattle shooting, which prevented us from figuring out what went on in the Wisconsin Slender Man stabbings, which distracted us from Santa Barbara. Yeah, we’re kind of not in a good place at the moment.
pamelabrown53
@JPL: Re: Oregon, NOT a mass shooting. There is something really toxic happening in America. Since talking about it is “politicizing” a tragedy and since there’s never enough time between shootings to talk about it…well guess we’ll just have to shut up. Yet somehow I can’t believe that regular Americans aren’t close to a tipping point. Am I just a Pollyanna?
raven
Pretty goddamn funny, now checkout Dayrl with Donna Summers daughter and her hubby. Johnny Swim Do What You Want! Max R&B!
beltane
@JPL: If the teacher was a union member the right will label it a heroic act. They would like to dance in the streets but that would entail physical exertion so they will just sit in their recliners and fantasize about whatever it is that RW deviants like to fantasize about.
Mandalay
Cops order protestors to do do the impossible, then arrest them for not doing it….
Gin & Tonic
@the Conster: In fairness, a gunman and two people isn’t a mass shooting. It’s barely maintaining quota. On average, 25 people are murdered using guns in the US every day. If you count suicides too, it’s more like 85 gun deaths per day.
jewelbomb
To the wingers more school shootings are just proof that there’s not enough guns on the street. More violence is just evidence that any extant gun restrictions (e.i., gun-free schools) are part of the problem. I wish I was joking, but the fuckers are already out at the usual places spewing this bullshit.
Anoniminous
If the shooter hadn’t used a gun he (?) would have used a baseball bat, hammer, sidewalk, or trebuchet. Guns don’t kill people. People pulling the triggers kill people. In order to protect the Constitutional Right to Bear Arms we need to get better people, until then all women and children must hide in basements … unless the man needs a sammich, a beer, or sex.
And remember, the Tree of Liberty is manured with bullshit and only the individual can protect the loss of our freedum by standing his ground with his AR-15 and fighting off the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corp, National Guard, Coast Guard, ATF, FBI, and local and state police forces.
JPL
@pamelabrown53: You are not alone. At some point folks will stop going to the movies and shopping centers. At that point businesses will demand change. Unfortunately, that could take a while.
Violet
@raven: Hey, raven. Wanted to clarify my comment to you re: the picture you posted from Silicon Valley on Sunday (?). My issue with it was that if you didn’t know “Silicon Valley” was a TV show, it was kind of unclear from your comment as to what your link was about. Also, I thought “lacking scruples” wasn’t quite a strong enough warning for what was definitely a NSFW image. I generally don’t have a problem with people posting stuff with questionable content so long as there’s a warning for others as to what they’ll find if they click through. Having not seen the show, it was kind of shocking. It’s probably pretty funny in context, judging from later comments by those who have seen it.
No big deal for me either way and no harm done. I just didn’t get the chance to clarify my comment then–so busy with taking care of my parents and doing my best to keep my life running as well. Got called away and never got back to the thread.
Hope you are well. How’s that shoulder coming along? I’ve got a shoulder problem too now. Probably from carrying everybody’s everything while herding my parents to and from doctors, etc. Plus stress.
Mnemosyne
@jewelbomb:
I love how they can never come up with any actual examples of their claim, but if you bring up examples like the guy at Seattle Pacific University who stopped the shooter with pepper spray, that’s just anecdotal, unlike their totally true story of heroism with no names, no dates, and no details.
Keith G
On a lighter note, since this is my “Sunday”, rest and light chores are ongoing.
Amazon Prime’s acquisition of the back catalog of many HBO series is endless fun. I am working my way through The Wire and also enjoying programs that I have heard very little about, such as Carnivàle – a very interesting change of pace bit of television.
the Conster
@Gin & Tonic:
You’re right – clearly we need a new vocabulary to encompass all flavors of these gun events if we’re going to have them on a daily basis.
Calouste
@Mnemosyne:
There was this hero with a gun in the Las Vegas shooting the other day. Well, hero except that he got killed.
Manyakitty
@the Conster: I still like “ammosexual.” It suggests compensation for those pesky inadequacies elsewhere.
WereBear
I wish there was some kind of metric that we could grade the Fox News hysteria, because something seems to have ratcheted up the paranoia out there.
Violet
@Mnemosyne: Isn’t there also a counter example–the guy at the Wal Mart in Las Vegas who got shot had a conceal carry permit and got out his gun and pointed it at the shooters? Or is that anecdotal and unconfirmed at this point?
japa21
The end result of all the school shootings will be 100% home schooled kids, resulting in an immense dumbing down of America, which is what the GOP would like to see anyway.
I was going to say “which is what the GOP is shooting for” but that innocuous phrase has taken on totally different meanings of late.
Betty Cracker
@Keith G: Yeah, it is great fun to catch up on shows everyone was talking about for 10 years but you never got to see. In retrospect, I’m kicking myself for shelling out to watch “The Sopranos” and “The Wire” instead of just waiting. I guess Amazon was waiting for the last sucker, i.e., me, to pay before making them all free. Le sigh.
shelley
Saw on some RW site, somebody crowing that Hillary’s book ‘Hard Choices’ is already ‘deeply discounted’ at 20% off.
Ummm, ever heard of a little website called Amazon? Pretty much EVERY book is discounted from it’s day of publication on.
raven
@Violet: We’re cool, I should have thought it through more than I did. Your input on my shoulder was invaluable, I decided against the surgery and stayed out of the water for 6 weeks. I think I learned that, at 65, I don’t need to swim seven days a week. I’m on the bike on alternating days and SOOOO thankful I didn’t get cut.
thx
raven
@Betty Cracker: Watch “Generation Kill”.
rikyrah
Republicans take photo ID laws beyond voting
06/06/14 02:52 PM—Updated 06/06/14 03:12 PM
By Zachary Roth
For Republicans, requiring photo ID isn’t just for voting anymore. They like the concept so much they’re now expanding it to cover government benefits that low-income Americans rely on.
In a growing number of states, and even in Washington, the GOP, citing fraud, is pushing laws that could deny needed benefits to those who are struggling, simply because they lack ID.
Studies suggest around 11% of Americans—including one in four African-Americans—don’t have a photo ID. Among those who receive government benefits, that number is almost certainly higher.
North Carolina’s GOP-controlled legislature—which last year passed a voter ID requirement as part of the nation’s most restrictive voting law— advanced a bill Thursday that would make recipients of jobless benefits also show a photo ID. It’s expected to pass next week.
Since March, people getting unemployment insurance in the Tar Heel State have been required to come into a state job center to meet with a job placement counselor within four weeks of getting aid. At that meeting, they’ve also had to show photo ID. Now lawmakers are set to make the ID requirement official.
Helping lead the push for the law is Thom Tillis, the Speaker of the North Carolina House, who is challenging U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan, a Democrat, in a race that could determine control of the Chamber this fall. Tillis also was a key backer of the state’s voter ID measure.
Imposing an ID requirement is just the latest stage in North Carolina’s effort to restrict jobless benefits. Last summer, the state cut off unemployment insurance for nearly 70,000 people, knowingly rejecting over $700 million in federal money that was meant to be used to extend benefits. Thanks to that rejection, another 100,000 lost benefits at the start of this year.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-photo-id-laws-not-just-voting
kindness
I think mockage is an underrated art form. Proper mockage isn’t overt, but can be over the top. Subtle difference. It allows one to mercilessly belittle a subject and still laugh hard about it. It’s a twofer.
rikyrah
Alabama Debating Guns in Polling Places
By: The Associated Press
Montgomery, Ala. Alabama officials have mere weeks to sort out whether gun-toting voters should be allowed in polling places under a new state law.
Differing interpretations of the new law became a problem in Tuesday’s primary after men showed up with guns in at least two precincts near Birmingham. Also, an east Alabama county first banned guns from polling places only to change the policy.
A law enforcement leader in Shelby County says someone needs to sort out the confusion before the runoff election on July 15. Two armed voters tried to cast ballots there.
But neither the secretary of state’s office nor the attorney general’s office is commenting publicly on whether armed voters should be allowed. A meeting on the issue is expected to be scheduled in Montgomery.
http://www.wtok.com/home/headlines/Alabama-Debating-Guns-in-Polling-Places–262244341.htmlAlabama Debating Guns in Polling Places
By: The Associated Press
Montgomery, Ala. Alabama officials have mere weeks to sort out whether gun-toting voters should be allowed in polling places under a new state law.
Differing interpretations of the new law became a problem in Tuesday’s primary after men showed up with guns in at least two precincts near Birmingham. Also, an east Alabama county first banned guns from polling places only to change the policy.
A law enforcement leader in Shelby County says someone needs to sort out the confusion before the runoff election on July 15. Two armed voters tried to cast ballots there.
But neither the secretary of state’s office nor the attorney general’s office is commenting publicly on whether armed voters should be allowed. A meeting on the issue is expected to be scheduled in Montgomery.
http://www.wtok.com/home/headlines/Alabama-Debating-Guns-in-Polling-Places–262244341.html
pamelabrown53
@JPL: It’s a sad state of affairs when we have to rely on “free market solutions” to protect us rather than the (We, the People) government. There’s a reason I don’t travel to foreign countries with armed folks on every corner (either in uniform or not). One time I took a day trip to Tangier, Morrocco. It was about 2 days after a terrorist attack. Since it was a tour, uninformed men were escorting us and staking out positions on our predetermined course. Not fun…and certainly not freedom. We have to decide where and when we stand OUR ground: for me, it’s encountering armed people during the course of my daily business. I have no idea if someone is a “good person with a gun” or a bad person. I just know that is not how I want to live my life.
Violet
@raven: That’s good to hear! Glad your shoulder has improved. I’m resting mine as much as I can. Things like reaching into a shoulder-high cabinet to pull out something with any weight on it–dishes, etc.–hurts it. It doesn’t really hurt when I’m not doing that kind of thing so I tend to forget, reach and lift something, and tweak it again. It also hurts when I lie down to go to sleep at night. Every night is a few minutes of pain while it settles into being horizontal, I guess.
I’m seeing someone about it tomorrow and if that doesn’t help, I’ve got another guy I’ll check with. The last month has been incredibly stressful and I think a lot of it is that I haven’t been taking care of myself. I’ve also had to carry everything for my parents. At points I’ve looked like a pack mule. It has been pretty nuts.
rikyrah
Koch Brothers’ UNCF Gift Is Worst Symptom of HBCU Financial Crisis
BY JL CARTER SR • JUNE 9, 2014
excerpt:
Of all the timeless HBCU adages, the ‘we do more with less’ is perhaps the most accurate, most destructive descriptor of the culture. $25 million will be viewed as a windfall to 37 HBCUs; meanwhile, Huntington Bank in Ohio invested five times that in The Ohio State University for scholarships and community development around the institution.
So what makes us angrier? $25 million from conservative business owners who fix elections, suppress voters and shape policies which negatively impact million of Black folks nationwide? Or the fact that our schools can’t afford to tell the Koch brothers’ where to shove it?
http://hbcudigest.com/united-negro-college-fund-koch-brothers/
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
“Treme” is also very good. It didn’t get as much buzz as other HBO shows because it’s not a genre show — it’s not a cop show, or a gangster show, or a lawyer show, or a vampire show. It’s just a show about people rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina.
SiubhanDuinne
Saw in a comment on FB that this is the 74th school shooting in the US since Sandy Hook.
I can’t prove it, but equally I have no reason to doubt it.
Seanly
@rikyrah:
That could actually hurt the GOP in the long run. People will get off their asses to get a photo ID so they can get assistance whereas the effort to get the ID may outweigh the desire to vote.
All these voter ID laws are BS and this welfare ID issue is BS also.
Violet
@rikyrah: What gets me about these “where should guns be allowed?” debates is that the lawmakers almost always decide that guns can’t be brought into the state Capitol buildings. Bunch of chickenshits. If guns can be in churches and schools and polling places, why can’t they be in the Capitols? A bunch of ammosexuals brandishing guns in the Capitol buildings might be just the thing to get lawmakers to re-think their positions on guns.
raven
@Violet: The problem is if you can’t stop what you are doing what is causing or irritating it. I built our brick sidewalk in the garden and that was ok but this weekend I made a bordering walk out of gigantic pieces of granite that we have lying around and it really caused me discomfort for a few days. One step forward two steps back. . .
Steve from Antioch
@SiubhanDuinne: That sounds about right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_school_shootings
Punchy
@cleek: But is the gun OK?
raven
@Mnemosyne: It’s a music show. . .BOOM!
shelley
And I don’t understand the GOP’s excuse for doing this (like the Voter ID push is rationale.) Isn’t your ID confirmed when you sign up for these programs? Ya know, proof of residence, income, that sort of thing?
skerry
In another “support the troops” decision, the Supreme Court ruled that former Camp LeJeune residents cannot file suit against a company that poisoned their drinking water.
ETA: Oops, this case was not the Marines, but it was another case of homeowners in NC which should negatively affect the Marine’s case. Not a lawyer.
Seanly
@shelley:
They’re mean-spirited, bigoted assholes. They hate to spend money on the Poors. If there is a non-white person somewhere getting some assistance they must be either a liar, a cheat or a deadbeat.
Keith G
@Betty Cracker: You are not alone. I have a several season’s box sets of The Sopranos, Rome, and Band of Brothers and I own** electronic downloads of Deadwood and Game of Thrones (not included in Prime).
**Or at least I own them until someone decides that I do not (according to the TOS).
rikyrah
The difference between shooters …
My 16 year old daughter just told me the following
When a black person shoots 6 people, he’s called a thug.
When a brown person shoots 6 people, he’s called a terrorist.
When a white person shoots 6 people, because he can’t get laid, he’s called a misunderstood teenager with mental issues.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025071510
Kristin
@Calouste: Not to mention the trained, armed law enforcement officers who were unable to do anything.
Trollhattan
Our friend Jack Ohman sums things up. I note that it was drawn a mere day before Troutdale…..
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/10/6470742/what-happens-in-vegas.html
Eric U.
they really need to have government sponsored programs to help underprivileged people obtain ID
shelley
@Seanly:
Well, yes, I know their real reason for doing it, I mean their excuse they give to the media for trying to enact these laws. If a person’s receiving help from these programs, their identity has already been identified in some way.
Violet
@raven: Yeah, I can tell when I irritate it, but I forget before I do the thing that irritates it. It’s not like it’s constantly hurting unless I tweak it and then it does hurt for a bit. I’m hoping my guy tomorrow can help me out. I’ve also quit putting my heavy purse in the passenger’s seat and grabbing it across the seat with my right hand. I get out of the car, go around it to the passenger’s side and lift the purse that way. I’ve gone through the purse to eliminate heavy things, but I’m dealing with so much stuff right now I’m carrying around all sorts of things for my parents and can’t really take out much.
ranchandsyrup
In my garage, fashioning a kevlar hamster ball so my girls don’t get freedom holes put in them when they go to school.
ET
I see there is another school shooting this time in Oregon. Another day another shooting.
bemused
@rikyrah:
Wait. What happened to Republicans screaming about the slippery slope to national ID cards? Sure they are ok with photo ID cards to vote but will any of them ask how far this will go, that it might not just be “those people” who get any type of assistance who are affected? Never mind, dumb question.
ranchandsyrup
School shooting once every 7.33 days since sandy hook. 73 total incidents.
Gin & Tonic
@ET: Of course. 25 firearm homicides a day, every day, all year. America, fuck yeah!
Too bad nothing can be done.
Higgs Boson's Mate
If our pols had any desire to stem gun violence they’d pass a law requiring gun owners to have liability insurance, the rates to go up for each additional gun owned, or face a hefty fine and confiscation of their weapons. I know the idea has been propounded before. I would hope that some canny politician would do the footwork to get the insurance companies on board before bringing a bill because CREAM.
Violet
Police confirm that one student was killed in addition to the shooter at the Portland high school shooting.
Eric U.
it’s amazing how much notice an incident gets when a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy. It is a pretty rare event, apparently.
Elizabelle
@Higgs Boson’s Mate:
Hi Higgs.
Remind me what CREAM means?
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Gin & Tonic:
If only there was some body that could enact sensible gun control legislation…
Mike in NC
@shelley: The entire point is to humiliate people. Sucks that your company laid you off and nobody is hiring, but show us your state-issued photo ID and after that go down the hall and take the urinalysis test. You’ll get reduced unemployment insurance this year so that we can cut taxes on corporations and wealthy donors.
Republican-controlled legislatures in several states are either planning to go this route or have already enacted these regulations.
Higgs Boson's Mate
Cash Rules Everything Around Me
JPL
@ranchandsyrup: Is there a total of school shootings that happened before Sandy Hook? I imagine that there are more school shooting since Sandy Hook then the previous ten years.
Bob In Portland
Sorrow, Tears and Blood.
Comrade Mary
Rose Eveleth: “Shooting flowchart: Was there recently a horrific shooting in America? —> Yes”
ranchandsyrup
@JPL: i can’t find any with my weak google-fu. still efforting.
CONGRATULATIONS!
Can’t think of any this last year. The last guy who tried got his brains sprayed all over the floor of a Wal-Mart.
Thinking about that. What a shit way to die. He was probably certain he was going to be a hero, right up until the wife of the guy he was facing down capped him from behind. A death that can be laid right at the feet of the NRA, because without their bullshit propaganda, he’d have been doing what everyone else in the store did – run the fuck away.
And he’d be alive today.
Elizabelle
@JPL:
I think that’s what it is going to take, too. But maybe we’ll reach a tipping point faster than some here think.
Elizabelle
@CONGRATULATIONS!:
Technically, the concealed carry guy was shot in the ribs. The first of the cops was shot in the head.
But, yeah, to the rest of your comment. He put too much faith in his gun and instincts keeping him safe.
JPL
@ranchandsyrup: Unless I counted wrong, there were seventy eight school shootings from 2001 until Sandy Hook. That’s almost 13 years.
the Conster
@Elizabelle:
Bill Maher made that same point – that these restaurants and other private businesses are able to do what our chickenshit politicians won’t – tell these gun humpers to get lost, and they do. Who wants to shop or eat out with the family, with a bunch of gun humping childish oafs ?
ranchandsyrup
@JPL: My gob is smacked. That blows.
rikyrah
Cantor: Critics of House transportation plan spread ‘misinformation’
By Keith Laing – 06/06/14 01:29 PM EDT
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) on Friday accused critics of spreading “misinformation,” as he defended a controversial GOP plan to use cuts at the Postal Service to pay for a transportation bill.
Republican leaders in the House last week announced plans to use about $15 billion they said could be saved from ending Saturday letter deliveries by the Post Office to pay for at least one year’s worth of transportation projects.
Advocates for both the Postal Service and increased transportation funding have objected to the plan because they argue that the two separate funding issues should not be combined.
………….
Transportation and postal advocates have accused House Republicans of taking a shortsighted approach that will not fix the larger problems at either the Post Office or in federal transportation funding.
The primary author of the Senate’s transportation legislation, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), called the House plan “unworkable.”
Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/208499-cantor-defends-house-gop-plan-use-postal-cuts-to-pay-for-transportation#ixzz34GJk27Ps
catclub
@shelley: also they have not seen the price list on on regnery books.
catclub
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: before this works, gun owners will have to be successfully sued for civil liability related to their guns. I don’t think that is happening.
I would be glad to be wrong.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@DougJ
J.D. and the rest of the Yacht Rock crew are debuting A Night of 1000 Bob Segers in L.A. on the 28th. Get your ass out there.
Trollhattan
@CONGRATULATIONS!:
Toting a gun makes you a slower runner. Had he run away, gun or no gun, with everybody else in the WalMart he’d have a story to tell, not a grieving family.
rikyrah
As far as Alabama is concerned..folks from the Nat Turner Gun Club should show up at Polling Places.
shortstop
St. Louis RC archbishop: “What do you mean it’s illegal to have sex with kids?”
Paul in KY
@shortstop: He has to be lying there.
CASLondon
I’m so glad someone else in the world can’t get over the Yacht Rock thing. I have never laughed so hard in my life. Then again, I am old enough to know who played drums on the Steely Dan albums in the first place. The most surreal material to riff on, but so fucking funny. I can’t figure out why, but so fucking funny
CASLondon
Don’t you dare lose the smooth
schrodinger's cat
[email protected]
Did you read Brooks latest? Here is my take.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@CASLondon:
I’m not sure which one’s my favorite: The one featuring the war between Steely Dan and the Eagles (Fagen: “Eat bat, prick!”) or the one with Jethro Tull, featuring Steve Huey’s dad and J.D. Ryznar’s brothers (okay, I’m partial to this one because the Ryznar brothers are my first cousins).
Shortstop
@Paul in KY: you think?
WaterGirl
@Paul in KY: I liked the comment in the earlier thread – that this guy forgot about the word “plausible” in the phrase “plausible deniability”.
Anne Laurie
@Elizabelle: Cash Rules Everything Around Me! (dollah-dollah bill, y’all – git tha money!)
CASLondon
The Ryznars are your cousins? There aren’t many unappreciated geniuses lost out in LA, but JD might qualify. I think my fav moment is THE ENTIRE FUCKING THING.
Look, they invented a meme, and the BBC followed…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03m6xnw
CASLondon
Michael McDonald commented on Yacht Rock in a 2008 interview:
“ Have you ever owned a yacht?
No, but I thought Yacht Rock was hilarious. And uncannily, you know, those things always have a little bit of truth to them. It’s kind of like when you get a letter from a stalker who’s never met you. They somehow hit on something, and you have to admit they’re pretty intuitive.[15]
Jebediah, RBG
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
I worked with Steve on a couple of shows… since he does some music writing (he wrote some of the bios that Pandora uses) it shouldn’t have been surprising, but I have never seen an ipod with so many tracks so meticulously organized. One day I thought I was making up a non-existent genre but he had some stuff that was almost exactly it. Plus he is a very pleasant fellow.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@CASLondon:
Heehee…I really do love J.D. (Superbaby, as his mom used to call him), but we don’t have the same taste in music. He really does love that stuff that he helped to resurrect, while I hate most of it. Might be the age difference (I’m 11 or 12 years older than him)…But I do love his comedy!
@Jebediah, RBG:
The funny thing about Steve is that I could play him when they make the oh-so-meta-series “Rocking the Yacht: The Making of Yacht Rock”. All I’d have to do is shave off this Charlie Manson beard I’ve got going.
Jebediah, RBG
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
When that happens, you will find that my consulting fee for helping you capture the real, behind-the-scenes Steve to be most affordable.