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You are here: Home / Sports / Uruguay v England Open Thread

Uruguay v England Open Thread

by Randinho|  June 19, 20142:50 pm| 127 Comments

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Can Uruguay keep their cool? Will Wayne Rooney be there for the entire game this time?

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  1. 1.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    56 degrees!

  2. 2.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    England to win 3-1, despite the best diving efforts of Dracula and cronies.

  3. 3.

    Alex S.

    June 19, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    2-1 Uruguay… good bye England! (though I found them surprisingly agile against Italy)

  4. 4.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    The Uruguayan anthem sounds like something Gilbert and Sullivan couldn’t quite fit into the Mikado.

  5. 5.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    England’s gonna win this one, Uruguay melts down and Suarez bites a teammate, kicks the ref but also scores three touchdowns, intercepts two passes and make a late field goal to no avail.

  6. 6.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    @Morzer: No way, that’s a beautiful anthem, much more Mozartian than G&S

  7. 7.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    I gotta go with Uruguay here. The idea that England wins a match is too much for me to comprehend.

  8. 8.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Mozart would have rolled over and died.. or possibly dived.. before committing such an atrocity against music. No, it belongs somewhere between The Flowers That Bloom In The Spring and A More Humane Mikado.

  9. 9.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Al Murray has some thoughts on national anthems (discovered him last night and laughed very much)

  10. 10.

    Tone in DC

    June 19, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    @Morzer:

    Greg Louganis couldn’t dive as much as the Cup’s players, even if we cloned him a la Orphan Black.

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    Jogo dos desperados, according to Darkie (and can they please refrain from calling him Darkie, it just sounds wrong)

  12. 12.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    This is why it would be awesome for California to secede. We could have the first hip-hop national anthem.

  13. 13.

    Tone in DC

    June 19, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    @? Martin:

    Let Texas secede, first. Once all the folks who wanted to get the hell out, from Austin and most of the cities, reached a safe distance, of course. Say, in Maryland or Virginia.

    The vortex of unencumbered winguttery would be a sight to behold, like a terra-based version of Cosmos.

  14. 14.

    Alex S.

    June 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    @Alex S.:

    Though actually, England still has a chance if Italy beats Costa Rica and Uruguay, and England beats Costa Rica.

  15. 15.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    deliberate

  16. 16.

    catclub

    June 19, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Does keeping their cool mean not getting a yellow card three minutes in?

  17. 17.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Blackie and now “wounded knee”. Who is these fucking limeys?

  18. 18.

    Paul in KY

    June 19, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    I’m thinking/hoping the lads get it done today. Nothing against Uruguay though. Wonderful how such a small country is a football power.

  19. 19.

    Steeplejack

    June 19, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Albert Brooks, national anthem auditions.

  20. 20.

    SFAW

    June 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Will Wayne Rooney be there for the entire game this time?

    Why start now?

  21. 21.

    scav

    June 19, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    @catclub: I suppose that would depend on the team. I’m suddenly amused by the contrast between Corinthians, Regency England meaning, the more Epistle-based Corinthians and how they both fail utterly with what’s likely to evolve here.

    ETA actually, the Vision of Paul running about handing red and yellow cards to the various congregations actually rather works . . .

  22. 22.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Godin might be skating rather close to a second yellow.

  23. 23.

    catclub

    June 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    @scav: Yes, The Corinthians Paul wrote to were squabbling.

  24. 24.

    ellie

    June 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Good lord! The Uruguay team is very good looking. Thank god for high def.

  25. 25.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    I’m listening to the radio rather than watching it. Are the Uruguayans playing as thuggish as the ESPN Radio guys are making it sound?

  26. 26.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Ooooo, quite a shot.

  27. 27.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Yes, and they just scored.

  28. 28.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Eh. The officiating is a bit uneven, and the commentators are going on about uncalled fouls which I think is making Uruguay sound worse than they actually are.

    That was a good goal there.

  29. 29.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Totally OT but totally hilarious (from Gawker): “The Florida doomsday survivalist and “River Otter Preppers” chief, who was on the lam from the FBI in connection with a plan to kill federal agents with guns and explosives, agreed to surrender Wednesday in exchange for “dry shoes, Gatorade, a couple of cheeseburgers and some French fries.””

  30. 30.

    Tony J

    June 19, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why even a slightly less than match fit Luis Suarez is such a terror.

    But England really should have dealt with that. 3 against 6 shouldn’t be a problem.

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    June 19, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Uruguay has long been my backup country if I ever have to BugOut of the US.
    So go, my compatriots! Beat the bloody British!

  32. 32.

    Corner Stone

    June 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    @SarahT: That actually sounds like a pretty good deal. Are there any good burger joints in FL?

  33. 33.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    @SarahT:

    dry shoes, Gatorade, a couple of cheeseburgers and some French fries

    Just like Rambo.

  34. 34.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’m married to a Brit and he’s hard enough to live with as is, so c’mon, England

  35. 35.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    @Corner Stone: Depends. Do you want ammunition with that?

  36. 36.

    Alex S.

    June 19, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Looks like Wayne Rooney will become the least successful striker in english national soccer history….

  37. 37.

    scav

    June 19, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    @? Martin: Forget ammo, he could have gone for the Skittles.

  38. 38.

    Corner Stone

    June 19, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    @SarahT: That sounds awful. I’m here for you.

  39. 39.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    @Alex S.:

    Emile Heskey wants to know why you are messing with his glory.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    June 19, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    @? Martin: Duh!

  41. 41.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    @Corner Stone: No idea, but there are apparently river otters a’plenty,

  42. 42.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    @Corner Stone: Aw, bless you. Hubby’s already approaching Morissey-esque levels of misery. Time to break out the booze !

  43. 43.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    @SarahT:

    Have you suggested moving to a soon-to-be independent Scotland and changing nationality?

  44. 44.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    @? Martin: He’d have got away with it if only he had more guns !

  45. 45.

    Alex S.

    June 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    @Morzer:

    He scored in the 2002 World Cup against Denmark though (had to check Wikipedia for that). Rooney is still at zero world cup goals.

  46. 46.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    “If Costa Rica can, England can” is not so much clutching at straws as fondling a haystack.

  47. 47.

    burnspbesq

    June 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    With Hannibal playing against five of his Liverpool teammates, there’s a pretty good chance he won’t be dining until after the match. At least Brendan Rogers hopes so.

  48. 48.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    @Morzer:

    Given the state of Scotish football, wouldn’t that be liable to induce clinical levels of depression?

  49. 49.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    @Morzer: Good idea – as long as I get to stay here, heh

  50. 50.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    @SRW1:

    It’s the hope that kills sports fans. Total despair means they can enjoy games without being distracted.

  51. 51.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Might depend on how Suarez’s rumored talks with Real are going. He persuaded Ajax to release him by his first incidence of feasting on an opponent.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    June 19, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Presented without comment, for your bemusement.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/11/upshot/up-soccer-table.html?_r=0

  53. 53.

    burnspbesq

    June 19, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    @SRW1:

    Suarez would be an idiot to go to Real. He’ll never play.

    And someday UEFA is going to wake up and realize that Real are the biggest violators of FFP.

  54. 54.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    @Morzer:

    I here serene levels of Scheissegal can also be induced with sufficient levels of pot consumption.

  55. 55.

    eric

    June 19, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    It is quite clear that the failure of the English to mount any serious threat toward winning the Cup is part of Hillary’s attempts to sell her book by distracting American anglophiles from Benghazi. That, or they suck ass.

  56. 56.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    @eric: I blame Obama. Obama and Rooney.

  57. 57.

    eric

    June 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    @SarahT: I blame andy rooney

  58. 58.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    I don’t know, the branding strategy of Real appears to requires that they make the most expensive deal for a player every season. And Benzema may have become an outstanding striker, but from the Real branding pov he was too cheap.

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    June 19, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    @SarahT: Mmmm, I knew I liked you.

  60. 60.

    ? Martin

    June 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Looks like it takes England about 50 minutes each half to get warmed up.

  61. 61.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Well, in defense of Man City you got to say that their regular domestic player is a bit hampered by the fact that he’s a goalie.

  62. 62.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    @eric:Yes. And Mickey Rooney. Fuck those guys.

  63. 63.

    The Thin Black Duke

    June 19, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Since this is an open thread, SF writer John Scalzi has some interesting observations to share about “ammosexuals”:

    http://whatever.scalzi.com/2014/06/19/a-former-marine-corps-weapons-instructor-on-the-desirability-of-guns-for-self-defense/

  64. 64.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    @SarahT: And Art and Andy too.

  65. 65.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    @raven: And Rooney Mara, whoever that is

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    June 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Whoa. Sticker shock to da max.

    Paged through the weekly flyer from a local supermarket. Sale prices are higher than were the non-sale prices on same items a month ago, pretty much across the board.

  67. 67.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    @SarahT: She bootiful.

  68. 68.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    I don’t even like him and I’m glad for him!

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    June 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    The heavens part—and Wayne Rooney scores in the World Cup!

  70. 70.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    And Wayne Rooneu eclipses Emile Heskey.

  71. 71.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    YESSSSSSSSH !

  72. 72.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Does a tie still eliminate them?

  73. 73.

    scav

    June 19, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    @raven: Agreed. Although I’d class myself as indifferent, I just like how it will complexity the retroactive backseat coaching.

  74. 74.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Old mo?

  75. 75.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    June 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    ‘sabout time, Shrek!

  76. 76.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    @raven:

    Nope, but it doesn’t much help either.

  77. 77.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    @SRW1: thx

  78. 78.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    @raven: Hotter than Andy and Wayne, then ?

  79. 79.

    gbear

    June 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    @SarahT:

    Ian McLagen (of The Faces) was interviewed on a Twin Cities radio station yesterday by a DJ who was born and grew up in England. They got to talking about the World Cup, and McLagen made up a song on the spot for the English team. The full lyric was ‘England! England! England ain’t so good”. The whole interview was pretty funny.

  80. 80.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Shrek ? HAHAHAHAHA !

  81. 81.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 19, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    @SarahT: From the perspective of a dude, yes.

  82. 82.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    @gbear: Love Ian MacLagen – got the opportunity to meet him many years ago (100 % G- Rated, sorry) and he was just a pleasure to be around. Link to the song, by any chance ?

  83. 83.

    Amir Khalid

    June 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    I really don’t care so much for international football — it’s just a distraction from the club game, really — but I’m glad Luis Suarez is recovering nicely from his knee operation.

  84. 84.

    hildebrand

    June 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    Gah – its over.

  85. 85.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    That was offside!

  86. 86.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Bye, Your Highness

  87. 87.

    IM

    June 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Well that was that. Poor limys.

  88. 88.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    June 19, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    @SarahT:

    Let me disabuse you of any notion that I might have come up with that on my own. Roo’s had that…Uhm…In his ears for years.

  89. 89.

    katie5

    June 19, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Sorrowful mood in the pub.

  90. 90.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Maccas color is absolutely outstanding

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    June 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Sometimes things come along which fairly scream out for front page mockery.

    Beginning in about 2005, the CIA began secretly developing a custom-made Osama bin Laden action figure, according to people familiar with the project. The faces of the figures were painted with a heat-dissolving material, designed to peel off and reveal a red-faced bin Laden who looked like a demon, with piercing green eyes and black facial markings.
     
    The goal of the short-lived project was simple: spook children and their parents, causing them to turn away from the actual bin Laden. Source

  92. 92.

    Calouste

    June 19, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    @SRW1: Not if the ball comes from a defender first.

  93. 93.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Awesome whoever thought it up. And he’s back to sucking, anyway. Gah. So disgusted – time to drink more.

  94. 94.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    @NotMax: No exploding ceegars?

  95. 95.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    You must give it to Uruguay, 3.5 million people and they remain a world power

  96. 96.

    Hawes

    June 19, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: If by Uruguay, you mean Luis Suarez, I agree.

  97. 97.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    There was all kinds of hysteria here when they added 5 minutes in the US game????

  98. 98.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    @Hawes: That Uruguay defense was tight until one sweeping counter

  99. 99.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    @gbear: Oh, there IS a link, D’Oh ! Sorry – gotta drink more.

  100. 100.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    @raven: You didn’t have a guy get kneed in the head in that game

  101. 101.

    Hawes

    June 19, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    This game is a powerful argument against the culture of time wasting. If it was 88 degrees and humid, fine, but Uruguay have milked every noogie and hicky into a near amputation.

    At least this isn’t on Rooney. It’s on the English defense.

  102. 102.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I’m just saying some folks were saying it was unprecedented.

  103. 103.

    Hawes

    June 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Their defense? Didn’t look so tight against Los Ticos.

  104. 104.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    @raven:

    There were a lot of interuptions in the first half of the US game and the five min added then didn’t look out of place. In the second half there weren’t nearly as many interuptions and nontheless adding 5 min looked a bit exessive.

  105. 105.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @SRW1: I’ll take your word for it.

  106. 106.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Interestingly, if Italy beat Costa Rica, then an Italy win against Uruguay and an England win against Costa Rica would see, yes.. Italy and England advance.

  107. 107.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Great FB post from a friend:

    Only flubber can save England now.

  108. 108.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @raven:

    Your friend is actually wrong about that. It’s entirely plausible that Italy beat both Costa Rica and Uruguay – meaning that an England win over Costa Rica (stop laughing there at the back!) would mean England qualifying on goal difference.

  109. 109.

    scav

    June 19, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @Morzer: So that explains my new favorite of Guardian liveblog

    The referee blows the final whistle and England’s World Cup dream is not quite mathematically over!

  110. 110.

    gbear

    June 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    @SarahT: I linked to the full interview. The ‘England’ song is towards the end of the interview.

    Edit: and now I see that you’ve found the link. I went away for a while and didn’t read down before responding.

  111. 111.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    @Calouste:

    I see, consensus is that the header came from Gerrard, not an Argentinian player. Second such blunder by Gerrard this season. The Guardian calls it Gerrard 2, England 1.

    Looks like most likely the second international carrier that ended on a rather bitter note at this World cup.

  112. 112.

    Violet

    June 19, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    @Morzer: The post-game analysis guys were just saying it puts England fans in the odd position of cheering for Italy.

  113. 113.

    Joel

    June 19, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: offenbach

  114. 114.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    @Morzer:

    A bit like Barcelonas chances to still be in the race for the title in La Liga after their second last game. And it happened.

  115. 115.

    Ronnie Pudding

    June 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    @SRW1: I don’t think anyone is claiming it hit an Argentinian player.

  116. 116.

    Amir Khalid

    June 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    @Morzer:
    But this under-performing England side don’t really deserve to make the knockout stages.

  117. 117.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    @Ronnie Pudding:

    Well, I did.

  118. 118.

    raven

    June 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    @Morzer:

    It
    was
    a
    joke

  119. 119.

    burnspbesq

    June 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    It might be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the locker room before Liverpool’s first pre-season practice.

  120. 120.

    Ronnie Pudding

    June 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    @SRW1: Argentina or Uruguay?

  121. 121.

    SRW1

    June 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    @Ronnie Pudding:

    Sorry, for being a bit thick.

  122. 122.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    @Ronnie Pudding: Well, definitely no one claimed that it hit an Argentinian player. Though that would be an awesome controversy to have right now.

  123. 123.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Arguably, nor do Uruguay. There’s a decent case for Costa Rica being the most deserving team, along with Italy, although I have trouble believing that things will fall their way.

    Anyway, as you know, the math demands it!

  124. 124.

    Morzer

    June 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @raven:

    You
    are
    forgiven.
    The
    FEMA
    battalions
    have
    been
    stood
    down
    .

  125. 125.

    Ronnie Pudding

    June 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @SRW1: No big deal. On ESPN radio, they were convinced it was offside, but never even mentioned that it might have gone off of Gerrard.

  126. 126.

    SarahT

    June 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    @gbear: Thanks for posting – totally fun interview !

  127. 127.

    burnspbesq

    June 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    If you combine all of the eight groups into a single 32-team table, Spain is currently dead last, with no points and a goal difference of -6. Netherlands is in first with six points and a goal difference of +5, followed by Colombia and Chile with six points and +4. The USA is in a six-way tie for ninth.

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