Nope, not a Levenson post. I snapped a photo of this painting in a museum a short while ago. Now off in search of cocktails to round out our Sunday indolence. Open thread!
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Benw
On my way up to VT with the kids for two weeks at the grandparents. Planning on flooding you all with pro-Bernie comments!
SANDERS 2016 WOO
scav
Saint Jerome often had a lion, but this one seems to have a menagerie in addition — peacocks?!
Mustang Bobby
Just back from seeing Mr. Holmes with Ian McKellen as an aging Sherlock Holmes. I highly recommend it, but if you go see it, call the theatre and find out what time the feature actually starts. We bought tickets for the 1:10 showing and by the time we go through the ads, the previews of coming attractions which are so long why bother to see the actual film, and the warnings about what do to “in case of an emergency,” which is a polite way to tell you to duck and cover when the guy behind you with the AK-47 goes off, they finally got around to showing the film at 1:31.
Why don’t movie theatres come with a Mute button?
jacel
Wonderful! Is it an allegory? Or just a portrait of a cardinal who kept a lot of pets?
scav
@jacel: Well, I’m pretty sure it’s Saint Jerome, cardinal’s hat, lion, study (yes, he’s one that pulled a thorn out of a lion’s paw, etc). This site also mentions peacocks, but I’m still unclear how exactly they wandered in.
divF
@Mustang Bobby:
The fact that they don’t is why Madame divF won’t go to the movies anymore. However, she is willing to make an exception to see Mr. Holmes.
shell
@Mustang Bobby: @Mustang Bobby: My strategy. Put coats on the seats to save.Then hit the refreshment stand and the ladies room. Hopefully Ive missed the worst of the ads when I get back into the theater.
scav
Here we go: Cardinal Albrecht of Brandenburg as Saint Jerome by Lucas Cranach the Elder
raven
After a nice morning it got hot as hell again. I’m tying to figure out Sunday dinner with nothing but the microwave and the grill. I found a site that reviewed Trader Joe’s stuff and the Penne Arrabbiata with grilled turkey cutlets may be what I “prepare”. The kitchen is gutted and the wall is down. We hope two more weeks is all this takes but nothing else has been on schedule.
Oh, and if shortstop doesn’t like this post let me say. . . tough shit.
raven
@Mustang Bobby: Why don’t they come with subtitles?
trollhattan
@scav:
Lacking a wife, peacocks provide something to scream at him.
shell
In that painting, what the heck is in that chandelier? A little figure?
Mnemosyne (tablet)
I can’t entirely explain why, but I always find this painting at the Huntington fascinating:
http://emuseum.huntington.org/view/objects/asitem/1642/96/title-asc?t:state:flow=e6061803-3952-42d3-a5e6-b8c27984554f
(The image on the page is very small, but you can click for a larger one even though it’s not very high quality.)
Amir Khalid
@Mustang Bobby:
A mute button for all the commercials and trailers would be nice. You know what else would be nice? A kill switch for all the smartphones and tablets in the theatre, to be activated right before the main feature starts.
Germy Shoemangler
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Remember the hitchhiking robot? It was supposed to hitchhike across the U.S. It didn’t even make it out of Philadelphia.
his last tweet:
https://twitter.com/hitchbot
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@scav:
I think those are pheasants, not peacocks. Peacocks are green.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@shell: There’s an “interactive” thingy at the link for the painting above. (It’s baby Jesus, indicating how wonderful he is.)
Cheers,
Scott.
(“Lions were much smaller in those days.”)
scav
@shell: according to the site I linked to, that thing is made of antlers, which re-enforces Albrecht’s piety (something to do with stags), it’s furthermore hung medallions with griffons (part lion and part eagle, associated with the Savior) and then there does just seem to be yet another random cherub in there, because they must have run out of space on top of the bookcase.
trollhattan
@scav:
Sarah(tm) has a moose chandelier hung with grifters.
Right to Rise
Why Donald Trump’s rise is a great sign for Jeb:
Jeb Bush’s stock is rising, Quietly, but rising.
scav
@Mnemosyne (tablet): ah, yes, the closeup reveals they don’t have those little top-knoty things either.
MattF
@scav: The painting has that “Hey, I can do perspective!” look that you get in some Renaissance art.
divF
@Right to Rise:
But his stock is rising in the GOP. He and Trump are vying to be King of the Frog People.
cmorenc
@Mustang Bobby:
I went to see the new Mission Impossible movie Friday night – but only after seeing that it got sufficiently near-consensu high praise from across the spectrum of reviewers (e.g. 93% from Rotten Tomatoes) to overcome my dislike of Tom Cruise as a person, and appreciate his chops as an actor who performs all his own stunts – that preview clip of him hanging off the outside of the closed door to an Airbus A400 cargo plane as it takes off and ascends to over 1000 feet? He really performed that stunt; it’s neither CGI nor is the scene of the background receding under him as the plane climbs added in post-production). And the movie is one of the best nonstop tense action-spy thrillers I’ve seen in years, and wouldn’t have been nearly so good if Cruise wasn’t surrounded by such an excellent cast of co-stars who are spot-on perfect for their roles.
ANYHOW, the Carmike theater I saw it in unfortunately had the volume turned up deafeningly loud, much in excess of what was needed to impressively convey the stunts or hear the dialogue – at several points I almost walked out of a movie I was otherwise enjoying very much because at times, the volume was but a small fraction of a decibel away from crossing the threshold from disturbingly loud to literally painful. GEEZ, CARMIKE MOVIE THEATERS, IS MOST OF YOUR FREAKING AUDIENCE AS DEAF AS MY 93-YEAR OLD MOM? Or was it in the distribution contract for the movie that you had to play the movie at the same sound level as standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier without ear protection as an F-15 as it passes just 30 feet from your head while taking off?
Amir Khalid
I refreshed the page and the painting disappeared. What happened?
Right to Rise
@divF:
He also leads Hillary in key battleground states, and nationally.
It’s time to sell stock in Hillary Inc.
MattF
@Amir Khalid: Still there for me.
Richard Fox
Looks like Cardinal Wolsey to me.
MattF
We need a new tag: ‘Good News for Jeb!’
ETA: Or, should I say, “Good News for Jeb!!”
Mnemosyne (tablet)
Also, since this is a museum-y thread and there are So Cal locals who comment here, I’ll put in another pitch for the Autry’s Civil War exhibition that runs until January:
http://civilwar.theautry.org
Really well done, and brings in a lot of fresh perspectives (Native American, Mexican citizens, etc.) It’s not a large museum, so you may want to budget in a trip to the LA Zoo across the street if it’s a longish drive for you.
RaflW
@Right to Rise:
Why Donald Trump’s rise is a great sign for
Jeb:John McCain.FTFY. Though you don’t deserve it, you stunningly boring twit.
trollhattan
@cmorenc:
“We have surround-sound so we will surround you with all the sound you can eat, and then some, golldarnit.” seems as typical as seven-buck popcorn. Especially painful in theaters with crappy sound systems so all you get is clipping. I feel your pain.
Last movie I saw in the MI franchise had a meaningless motorcycle chase/joust that Would Not End so I threw in the towel on the lot.
Brachiator
From the write-up on the painting, “Cardinal Albrecht of Brandenburg as Saint Jerome.”
Rocky and Bullwinkle takes on an entirely new metaphysical significance.
TaMara (BHF)
Did someone say cocktails? I just learned Espresso Martinis are a thing.
Right to Rise
A new poll with yet another batch of bad news for Clinton:
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@cmorenc:
Oddly, it’s thanks to CGI that they can do much more thrilling stunts now, because they can CGI out the safety equipment and not have to hope that the fishing line and wires small enough to be invisible to the camera will also be strong enough to hold during the stunt.
I’m not a Cruise fan, either, so I was surprised at how much I liked “Edge of Tomorrow.” It’s basically “Groundhog Day” as a war movie, which means you get to see Cruise’s character be tormented until he stops being an asshole. Definitely worth a watch.
low-tech cyclist
@Benw:
Can you use some other term? Just landed in central Florida, where ‘flooding’ is a dirty word right now. (Hi Betty!)
Gimlet
@Brachiator:
And Aslan. Don’t forget Aslan!
trollhattan
@MattF:
Kind of like іHEB! on account of his cromulent Hispanicity and all.
low-tech cyclist
@Brachiator:
And when Boris says, “Moose and Squirrel must die!” he’s expressing atheistic Russian Communism’s desire to stamp out religion. It all fits together!
RaflW
@trollhattan:
I’ve taken to referring to him as
jeb.
since that’s how exciting! he is.
Gimlet
@efgoldman:
Time ran out.
Put another quarter in the monitor.
elmo
@raven: When my wife and I moved from California to Tennessee, we made an adventure of it. I bought a brokedown RV and we drove across country with ourselves and our seven dogs. It was supposed to be a weeklong lark, so I didn’t care much that the stove didn’t work and I was terrified of the propane system in any event.
This was in October. Our new house had been vacant since July. As it happened, the seller had taken his fridge with him and neglected to turn off the icemaker hose. It ran constantly through July, August, and September, in a tiny Tennessee bungalow. We discovered the flood and consequent destruction when we arrived. The house had to be completely gutted down to the studs, and even some of those had to be replaced because of mold.
So we ended up living in a 27-foot RV with no working kitchen for six weeks. All our money had to go to fixing the house, so we couldn’t afford to eat out. It was microwaveable instant meals and nothing else. For six solid weeks.
For years afterward, my wife wouldn’t even go down the supermarket aisle where they keep the Dinty Moore.
Brachiator
@cmorenc:
Agree with you that the movie is largely enjoyable. Cruise is good, but is so hardworking, especially in some of the more strenuous stunts, that he seems almost desperate to please the audience.
The standout for me though, is Rebecca Ferguson, as an agent with her own agenda. Cruise, who is a producer as well as the star of the film, generously gives her plenty of room to do her thing, adding to the fun.
Alec Baldwin lends a little weight to this movie, as does Michael Douglas to Ant-Man. The supporting cast is pretty good, and Sean Harris gives off Jeremy Irons vibes as a baddie.
A little thing I picked up from the opening credits is how much Chinese money is backing this film. But since the movie was number one at the box office with a $56 million take, it appears to have been a wise investment.
ruemara
Trying to get a plan together for the next year. I really don’t want to stay where I’m at, and it’s not a given this company can survive that long. I got 20 more years before I can collect medicaid and what ever SS. That’s not going to help the situation at all. My friends say I should stick with the job because at least I’m working; I think it’s not worth it to earn what a senior shift supervisor at McD’s might earn at part time at a company that has no path up for me & forward for itself. The safer corp jobs are rejecting me left & right. Despite years in a government job, I can’t even get an interview 98% of the time. Creative stuff that I do simply does not pay & I’m nonexistent too. Does it sound sane to collect funds and maybe stay a month or two in an area to see if I can land work; if not, move on to the next? I figure I’m long past the time to do more than sensible things. But my comfy pals are all “you should be thankful to have a job”, which really grates on my nerves. It just seems stupid to keep doing what hasn’t worked for a decade.
@TaMara (BHF): yech. I can’t be the only person that just prefers a straight shot, if I’m gonna drink.
Germy Shoemangler
@Brachiator:
Chinese venture capitalists from a communist country. What a wonderful time to be alive!
rikyrah
@Mustang Bobby:
I always time the previews at 15 minutes…gives you time for the bathroom and get snacks.
RaflW
@elmo: Jeepers. I hope someone’s insurance paid, preferably the idiot seller’s.
MattF
@rikyrah: There’s always six previews.
Germy Shoemangler
It’s not the previews that bother me so much (or the “coming attractions” as we used to call them) but the car/insurance/soda commercials.
MattF
@ruemara: I used to frequent a bar that had a ‘No Blenders’ rule. And if management put a blender behind the bar, it would always, somehow, be broken by the end of the day– some piece of tableware would find its demise.
gogol's wife
@RaflW:
That’s like that band that had a period in its name — Fun. ?
Brachiator
@Right to Rise:
Holy Mother of God, and Saint Bernie! You know what this means?
Absolutely nothing.
Stuff like this is not even trolling. It’s just mindless jibber jabber. Or a lame attempt to incite comments, I don’t know.
Germy Shoemangler
Someone edited together Superman’s battle with General Zod with Bruce Wayne’s reaction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUp0u_8I_I
Brachiator
@ruemara:
For what it’s worth, if your analysis of the company’s prospects are accurate, then you do want to develop an exit plan. I’ve been in a similar situation in the past, and the only reason I stayed was because I knew that there would be a generous layoff package, and I ended up getting paid extra to delay my final leave. But I worked hard to line up a new job once I knew my final work date.
But I have seen companies cut back big time on severance arrangements recently, so you want to be careful here.
If interviews are not working well for you, can you work networking channels, former co-workers, etc. any harder?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@ruemara: I’m sorry you’re in a tough situation.
I’ve been extremely lucky to be in a good job that I like for more than 25 years. Consequently, I haven’t looked for a job in a long time.
My personality is to value stability. When my mom left a good job in Chicago that was driving her nuts for the promise of a job in Atlanta, I had a very bad feeling about it. The promise didn’t work out. She never worked consistently after that… :-(
Rather than cutting the cord completely, can you make some long weekend trips to do searching and interviews? E.g. scope out places over the weekend, do interviews on Monday, then be back at work on Tuesday?
The job market is picking up, but very slowly. That should help in general, but you’re in a field that is likely to always be difficult (a few superstars, lots of driven youngsters who are willing to suffer for their art and earn almost nothing in the process, and lots of people in the middle who just need to have a satisfying job with reasonable pay).
Is there any way you can network with artists/creative types in your area? Maybe go to gallery shows and try to talk with like-minded people? IIRC, you do animation and computery-type things, right? Are you able to network at trade shows in your area?
The online comics I follow, like Wondermark, seem to have creators that are always working, always scraping and struggling to try to get people to notice their work, always trying new things, always traveling to trade shows, comicons, etc. It must be exhausting and disheartening most of the time. Are you driven that way too? Have you thought about something like that?
I honestly don’t know what I’d do in your situation. Having a job that is annoying and seems to be a dead end sucks. Not getting paid sucks. I hope any decision you make at least gets you on a path where things get better sooner.
I hope this helps a little in your decision making, or at least isn’t annoying! :-)
Best of luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne (tablet):
Cruise has been doing good work since his earliest days in moves like Taps and The Outsiders. In more current work, he was surprisingly effective in Magnolia. But I guess his odd persona gets in the way of appreciating his skills.
I keep hearing good things about Edge of Tomorrow, but still haven’t seen it. I kept confusing it with Oblivion and Elysium, the latter a film that did not feature Cruise, but which was a total stinker.
Elmo
@RaflW: Ha! No. It’s complicated as to why, but he didnt have any and mine hadn’t kicked in yet. $15,000 cash out of pocket.
He didn’t have a pot to piss in – he was selling because of a divorce, and there were broken windows etc that he took a price deduction rather than fix. Just unfortunate and a good lesson to me.
ruemara
@Brachiator: No. I get recommendations, but it never turns into anything. I know workers, not “job creators” and when I do things for job creators, they forget me. My powers are being the invisible storm of excellence, where people say “why are you here?” but don’t actually offer a paying gig. But for free, oh they love me.
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: sans money or family, it’s exponentially tougher. Think of me as someone who’s more paid like a waitress, yet runs a marketing department. So I’m hand to mouth and the reserves for travel are not that big. I’ve considered some long distance jobs but the few I’ve gotten interviews for have been gov jobs. Where they call me with a day & time of their choosing and if I can’t make it, tough tittles.
I’ve been networking, even did some good stuff at SDCC, but it won’t lead to work for a long time and it will take more work and money for it to potentially bear fruit. Locally, the network is once again, more interested in me working for free than anything else.
Trust me, if I had some sort of gift for actuarial tables, I’d at least feel more successful.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
Since I’m one of the ones who’s been telling you to get the hell out of Dodge, I am obviously very much in favor of this plan. :-) I like Brachiator’s idea of applying for jobs out of the area and taking 3-day weekends for interviews. Most companies want you to apply online now, so you should be able to send your resume to places in, say, Los Angeles, without having to leave your area. There may also be some online networking you can do at places like Reddit.
Keep in mind that July/August are fallow times for job searches because everyone takes vacation during those times. You may want to consider banking your paycheck and vacation days for the next month and start making trips after Labor Day when there will be more jobs posted.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
Also, too, make it very clear in your cover letter and/or application that you WANT to relocate and are not looking for jobs in your area. See if you can connect with a recruiter/headhunter in the geographic area you’re interested in.
Even though she’s in a totally different field, lamh36 may have some good advice about simultaneously relocating and finding a job. I think she’s done it a couple of times now.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
Okay, last thing: it is quite possible that if you move down here to La-La Land and try for a studio job, you will have to start off at the assistant level. At the Giant Evil, the title you want to search for is “coordinator” — it usually has some assistant duties, but is really meant as a stepping stone to other positions. Jobs with “secretary” or “assistant” in the title are more likely to get you stuck on the assistant track. (Though an assistant job at a studio will usually start around $18/hr plus overtime, so it’s not that bad.)
If you’re willing to temp for a while, there are usually a lot of temp to permanent studio jobs available. AppleOne in Glendale is the one to sign up with for studio/entertainment jobs in the SF Valley. If there’s a particular company you’re interested in, you can contact their HR department and find out which temp agency they use.
Brachiator
@efgoldman: Tried to post this, weird stuff happened. One more attempt then I’m off to dinner:
Other people think its DougJ having a goof.
The weird thing is, that here and elsewhere some of the stuff that people react to as trolling is so easily refuted or contradicted that I wonder if the poster is just having sick fun or is someone who craves attention.
I wish that there would be more people who have opposing views who seriously challenge positions, and who are willing to listen and to engage in debate, not just hit and run BS.
But then again, I also wish that there were unicorns.
Diana
turns out this livestock-loving cardinal has a wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_of_Mainz
ThresherK
@Mustang Bobby: A StateSen here in CT introduced a bill afew years ago requiring movie theaters to provide that actual information in listings and ads. He was belittled as a nanny-state big-gummint liberal.
The fellow is a Democrat. I don’t know if he did it jokingly*, but it sounds like both a good joke, and plausibly good legislation. In a world where the theater chains ask me to plonk down my $GawdKnowsWhat, then watch fucking ads…well, that’s a marketplace which ain’t gonna solution itself.
PS It’s interesting how when the right does things like this they’re both bad jokes and bad ideas of actual legislation.
*This may have begun as an exercise in the kind of thing suburban CT parents thought of when shepherding their kiddies to a movie, or calculating the babysitter $$ on a rare evening out.
princess leia
@scav: That is so cool!
RSA
@Germy Shoemangler:
Aw, that’s too bad. I wonder what the creators hoped to make of the project, on the research side; the art side is clearer, I think.
(Pedant alert: hitchBOT is no more a robot than my mobile phone is.)
ruemara
@Mnemosyne (tablet): That’s an idea. The key thing is working out the details. I’ll have to figure out the place to stay part. That’s the big obstacle here. That place to land thing is where the bulk of the planning has to be focused on. Maybe a hostel for a month or so?
Benw
@low-tech cyclist: of all the stupid stuff I’ve said on BJ, that people have rightfully jumped on me for, taking offense at “flooding” is definitely the weirdest. :)
Will you PC police ever leave me ALONE!?
RSA
@Benw:
Don’t worry; tomorrow it will just be water under the bridge.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
Down here, even a hostel will run you $40 or $50 a night. You might be better off renting a room on Craigslist if you’re looking for a short-term place.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne (tablet): meh. Noted.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
I can check at work and see if anyone is looking for a housesitter. No guarantees, but something like that might not be bad.
Elmo
@ruemara:
Hoping you haven’t left BC the thread is dead. What is the creative stuff you do? Any of it related to writing? Can you do tech or grant writing?
Asking for a friend. ;-)
shell
I think my dog would have something to say about that.
*****************
So the Holy Spriit is stripping all the fruit off my apple tree.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
Another thought I missed the edit window for — Anne Laurie may be willing to give MaryG your contact information. IIRC, she’s more down San Diego way, but at least you’d be in So Cal. She was at the Story Tavern meetup, so she knows you’re not a serial killer.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne (tablet): We don’t really know that. She might just be able to “maintain” long enough to get through a meetup.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (tablet): OT: I just went on a nice hike in your little burg. Stough Canyon. They have a nature center at the end of Walnut, past Castaways. I hiked to Verdugo Peak, but there are lost of shorter routes.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Omnes Omnibus:
There’s a story from tht meetup about me, ruemara, and Ruckus, but she needs to tell it because she tells it funnier and because it happened to her.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I’ll have to let G know — now that the nieces are gone, he’ll have more time for hiking.
If you know of local (up to Ventura County) hikes that will wear out a 17-year-old boy, let me know. My nephew will be living in Thousand Oaks and has a lot of energy to burn off.
ruemara
@Elmo: Sorry. Scriptwriting, marketing copy, social media, & articles. Grant/tech writing is the one thing I’ve never done.
@Mnemosyne (tablet): Yes, but she’s a nice lady who’s already met me. Nothing can overcome that.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (tablet): Of course I know about hikes in TO, I grew up there. I’ll think of a few.
Here’s a good link: http://www.modernhiker.com/area-maps/santa-monica-mountains/
It has Wildwood hikes, another I liked was the creek between Lynn Ranch and Newberry Park.
And Mount Cleff, behind CLU(CLC). Though that might be part of the Wildwood hikes.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@ruemara:
May as well give it a try. Look at that magnificent cat in the garden post below!
ruemara
@Omnes Omnibus: pssh. you know, I don’t spill your secrets regarding you and a herd of sheep.
Omnes Omnibus
@ruemara: I’ve mentioned on this blog that I used to play rugby. Sheep are pretty much an open secret at that point.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (tablet): Oh and the hikes in Stough Canyon can be just the loop from the nature center to the old youth campground to the saddle atop the hill and back or to the radio towers at the top of the Verdugos(that’s what I did today).
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Thanks! We took him and his sisters to Charmlee on Saturday (because the 15YO has a busted-up knee and the 9YO has short legs) and I think he was a little disappointed in how easy it was. I think he wants to try a “real” mountain hike.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (tablet): Hah! There’s always Booney Peak(Sandstone Peak), that’s the highest mountain in the Santa Monica’s(I’ve not climbed it). My dad and I used to hike though Mugu State Park, starting in Newberry Park and going down to the ocean and back with maybe a stop in La Jolla valley(though that area got f’ed up in the springs fire).
Mt. Cleff is a good mountain hike, nice cliffs too. We used to hike Wildwood alot, but that was (gulp) 40 years ago.
There’s also Malibu Creek State Park, if he has trasportation. It’s off Las Virginies(sp).
Smiling Mortician
@ruemara: For the right job, it’s pretty inexpensive to move by putting your stuff in self-storage in your new hometown and staying in a motel with weekly rates for a week or two until you find an apartment. And also, when you find interesting jobs in various locations that you want to check out, tell folks here about it. We live all over the damn place and will likely have suggestions. Good luck.
chopper
@Right to Rise:
SHOCK POLL!
Elmo
@ruemara: Still, it’s writing. Subject-verb agreement, consistency in tenses, rough approximation of correct punctuation.
Shoot me a resume at:
LMHAGAN
(That’s where Elmo comes from, L.maureen)
At
Att
Dot net
Ok?
Omnes Omnibus
@Elmo:
I do sometimes wonder how people choose their ‘nyms.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: There was a thread about that recently(in the past few months). Mine is my first name “in”(which seems to confuse some) and the city I live in.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: I sort of guessed that that was the origin of yours.
Glidwrith
@ruemara: If you are still around, we could host you for a day or two while you interview. I’m completely in the wrong field to offer any advice on how the market is down here, though. The hatchlings would love to see you again.
Bjacques
The thread’s probably dead and buried, but the simple painting of the Virgin & Child on the Cardinal’s wall looks like it could have been by Ambrosius Benson (1495/1500-1550 Antwerp), because he tended to give Mary lumpy hair and a fat neck. It also looks like Baby Jesus wears a shirt. The Darmstadt Museum, which has this painting, dates it to 1526, so the dates match.
Paul in KY
@Germy Shoemangler: Typical POS Americans at work here.
Paul in KY
@elmo: You should have sued the previous owner. That mistake would run afoul of any normal house contract.
Procopius
@divF:
There, fixed that for ya.