Poster rikyrah had some interesting posts and thoughts about the success of the movie “Straight Out of Compton” – eat it, Man From UNCLE. Ran across this in Forbes. Universal is having a pretty good year, and handled this film well. The optimistic box office estimate was in the $40 million range, but it did much better. A little mood refresher in between more serious posts.
BTW, the popularity of the film with Latino audiences is a bit interesting.
By taking a musical biopic about young black artists, a story that many moviegoers grew up with and observed as it happened, and treating it like an A-level summer blockbuster event, Universal basically created an Avengers type event for black moviegoers in an otherwise lily-white summer. Now that’s not to say thatStraight Outta Compton didn’t play across racial lines. It clearly did, but the film also, to its relative credit, didn’t give much care to how white audiences would react to its story of so-called “street knowledge.” Moreover, this opening is so big that the film would have been a big hit even if few white moviegoers showed up.
For the record, it played 52% female and 51% under age 30. It played 46% African American, 23% Caucasian, 21% Hispanic, 4% Asian, 6% “other.” So absent a single white moviegoer, we’re still looking at a $46 million debut weekend. But here’s the question that will really blow your mind (not really, but read it like Gloria Foster anyway): Would this opening have been as huge if movies likeStraight Outta Compton were offered on a more frequent basis? Would it be harder to nab would-be records among black-centric films if Hollywood made films starring more than just DenzelWashington, Smith, and (for a brief moment) Chris Tucker? Still, that would be a good problem to have all things considered. And yeah, Universal deserves another marketing gold star for what has been a banner year.
The trailers were perfectly placed, with one red band teaser debuting onlinethe night of the 57th Grammy Awards in February and the other green band trailer debuting with Furious 7 in early April and then trailering with the likes of Pitch Perfect 2, Jurassic World,Trainwreck, and well, okay, probably not Minions. The “Straight Outta Somewhere” meme became a genuine sensation, which, of course, acted as free advertising during the week before the film’s release. And Universal knew they had a critical winner on their hands, dropping the review embargo two weeks before release and letting the good word soak in. And that’s not even counting the obvious social media profiles of Ice Cube,, and the like.
Watched American Ninja Warriors (Military) last night for the first time for no reason except that it was on and I was bored, and wow. Really impressive in every way. Now I see today that two women – the first ones – made it to be Rangers. Right on sistahs, right.on. I have no upper body strength like most women, and I just can’t even.
It can’t be said too many times — yes, the marketing was great, but F. Gary Gray also made a damn good movie that people across color lines ended up liking. To me, the marketing success shows what a studio can do when it gets behind a movie that it believes in.
ETA: Or, to quote the Big Cheese at my workplace, “Quality is the best business plan.”
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Brachiator
Also, too. Aluminum Free Baking Soda? You need to put that on a label?
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beltane
In Trump News Today, the Donald is demanding that Fox News fire Frank Luntz. Who in the GOP is safe from Trump’s ire these days?
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Tokyokie
I’m still in awe that Ben Affleck won an Oscar for a movie about baking powder. But I guess his still had the aluminum in it.
@Brachiator: The major selling point for Rumsford baking powder has long been its not containing aluminum, so it is a major selling point among folks who bake a lot of cakes. Me, I’ve never used up a can before it reached its expiration date.
It can’t be said too many times — yes, the marketing was great, but F. Gary Gray also made a damn good movie that people across color lines ended up liking. To me, the marketing success shows what a studio can do when it gets behind a movie that it believes in.
I think marketing can be over-rated. On the other hand, August is sometimes the month when studios throw movies away. And “ethnic themed” films are also sometimes thrown away. Here, the studios used the marketing effectively.
On the other hand, except for a couple of trailers, I didn’t see much of anything pushing Man From UNCLE.
ETA: the actual weekend gross of Compton was adjusted up to $60 million. Usually, the actuals are less than the weekend estimate. A very strong showing for the film.
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jl
@beltane: I am pondering a joke about Trump, I think from Larry Wilmore: Trump is the kind of guy who just says stuff, and then believes it just has to be true just because he said it.
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Betty Cracker
@Brachiator: I’m surprised the audience skewed so female. The album came out when I was in college, but I gotta admit I found the misogyny that seems, if not inherent, at least prevalent, in the genre off-putting. I got zero nostalgia for it, but clearly I’m not the film’s target audience.
Forbes has really good, smart coverage of movie marketing for those interested in the nuts and bolts. They had a great article explaining why the marketing for “Frozen” worked so well when that movie came out.
And it was very smart of Universal to position the movie at the end of the summer when high school/college kids might not have gone back to school yet, but had already seen all of the blockbusters and were ready for something different.
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Tree With Water
The lights will be on late tonight at Subway headquarters:
Aluminum Free Baking Soda? You need to put that on a label?
Not baking soda, baking powder. Baking powder never contains aluminum metal, but some kinds contain salts of aluminum (sodium aluminum phosphate or sulfate). There are some (not completely substantiated) worries about aluminum salts having neurological effects- ISTR it was implicated in Parkinson’s disease [ETA: looks like I misremembered; it’s Alzheimer’s]- so baking powders that don’t contain aluminum salts are careful to mention this on the label.
Ice Cube is exactly my age — seriously, we were born on the same day and date. So I’m curious to see some of our shared history (like the LA riots) from another perspective.
My workplace often shows current movies, so I’m hoping this is one that they’ll screen at some point.
I don’t think anyone will stop eating at Subway, but you have to wonder if Jared was occupied with child pr0n instead of eating. Maybe that’s a new Subway ad? “Don’t be like Jared – eat your Subway instead!”
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trollhattan
Vlad waxing nostalgic for the good ol’ Soviet days, plans to display replica of the largest nuclear weapon ever exploded. Way to calm everybody down, big guy.
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ThresherK
Strangely enough, I buy my Argo’s cornstarch by the 1-lb tin (sic). And it’s on some oven-faux-fried chicken right now.
(Too hot to real-fry right now.)
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Baud
Where have all the heroes gone?
Jared Fogle, the former Subway spokesman who lost 245 pounds while eating fast-food sandwiches, is expected to plead guilty to possession of child pornography charges, according to Fox59, the Fox affiliate in Indianapolis.
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Germy Shoemangler
@Baud: I always got him mixed up with the guy who said “can you hear me now?” in the commercials.
@Germy Shoemangler: Oh god. You’ve just made my life much more exciting.
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Brachiator
@Tokyokie: And now Affleck is starring as BakeMan, the Cake Crusader in the upcoming Man of Steel Fryer movie. Can’t wait to see Gal Gadot as Wonder Bread Woman.
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goblue72
@Germy Shoemangler: Saw that today. Its incredibly effed up if true. And to the degree there was a legal settlement with the woman in question, it kinda begs the answer that – yes, indeed it is true.
Course, if anyone listens to NWA’s lyrics, they are incredibly misogynistic. But then, so are Eminem’s lyrics and he was rewarded with a hit movie over 10 years ago for music he just copied from Dre. I was in high school when Straight Outta Compton dropped. Even back then (late 80s), I couldn’t grok to them – the cartoon levels of “gangsta” preening, “ho” slapping and such just weren’t all that enjoyable. The beats were good, the rhyme not bad, but at end of day, their lyricism just fell flat. I was way more into what groups like Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions were preaching (and what what would soon evolve into groups like Tribe, Jungle Brothers, Black Sheep, etc.)
Even re-listening today, I can say, yeah – the music is still dope, but the message just ain’t there for me.
So is aluminum a common ingredient in baking powder?
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Bex
@beltane: I remember Argo corn starch from growing up in Chicago. Glad to see they still have the corn cob lady on their label. I think it was made south of the city in Argo-Summit IL.
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ultraviolet thunder
I avoid almost all fast food, but Subway is the exception. You really can get a healthy sandwich that tastes good there for a fair price. I ate one today. Seems like a little too much salt in there but that’s a minor fault.
My day started at 3:00 am in Toronto, passed through Detroit and ended in Hartford CT, where I still had a full day’s work to do when I arrived.
3 airports, 3 security checks, 2 rental cars, two planes, 2 hotels, two buses and one prototype manufacturing facility.
I was ready for a meal after all of that. And sleep.
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Joel
@Brachiator: Well, that’s a good question. Fruitvale Station, a legitimately good movie without the revisionist history that plagues biopics like Compton, grossed $16 million in its entire run. A more apples-to-apples comparison would be Notorious, considered an inferior movie, which grossed $36 million.
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Joel
@the Conster: American Ninja Warrior and its Japanese parent (Sasuke) are amazing shows. The obstacles are insane and the athletes even more so. Imagine if there was real money involved?
Here’s the summarized run of a two-time champion of the Japanese show:
I read this as: 3 airports, 3 security checks, 2 rental cars, two planes, 2 hotels, two buses and one PROBE. I thought you were being awfully blasé about the probe at the airport, and then I re-read your sentence.
Also, where did your capital letters go?
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Tree With Water
@Germy Shoemangler: “After watching the movie, WB’s higher-ups allegedly called Affleck the “definitive Batman”.
That’s only because they never gave Don Knott’s a fair shot to strut his inner bat on the big screen..
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Brachiator
@Betty Cracker: People like music that’s fun or exciting and often ignore the lyrics, which are often fantasy. There’s a YouTube video of girls crying and squealing as the Rolling Stones sing Under My Thumb, and few of these women wanted to be anybody’s slave. And I didn’t know that much about NWA, but I found out in a informative review that one of them has been married to the same woman for 25 years and another has been with the same woman for over 20 years.
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Germy Shoemangler
@ultraviolet thunder: Did you experience any flight delays with the massive computer glitch?
For those keeping track, Sens. Reed, Whitehouse, and Hirono are voting yes on the Iran deal. Menendez is a no.
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WaterGirl
@Roger Moore: Yeah, nothing puts me in the mood like nausea, dizziness and fainting…
(It was rejected by the FDA twice for lack of effectiveness and side effects like nausea, dizziness and fainting.)
Edited punctuation.
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Germy Shoemangler
@Betty Cracker: Elvis had a line in “Baby Let’s Play House”: “I’d rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man”
And John Lennon was so impressed with the lyric that he used it in a Lennon/McCartney composition “Run For Your Life”
Misogyny is a poisoned little river running through the lyrics of lots of rock ‘n roll, blues and hip hop.
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Brachiator
@Joel: I don’t expect a movie biopic to be particularly accurate, especially when the principals are still alive, and one of them is a producer of the film. On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed the James Brown biopic, which also is not very accurate, but gets the Funk right.
I’m using my work laptop, which is subjected to unspeakable abuses. The keyboard malfunctions frequently. As do my fingers when I’ve been up since 3:00 am.
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Joel
@Brachiator: Fair enough, but those reasons listed are pretty much why I will avoid this movie. The last biopic I watched — family coercion — was the Blind Side and it was pure, unfiltered garbage.
Did you experience any flight delays with the massive computer glitch?
This is the first I’ve heard of it. I flew out of Toronto at 6:30 am and have been moving fast until more or less this moment. Guess I have to catch up on the day’s events.
That’s one drawback of being in Canada: NPR beats CBC all hollow for news.
Also, it’s budget was $900,000. It did $17MM at the box office. Not a bad ROI.
To match, SOC will need to gross $500MM at the box office.
Just saying.
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Brachiator
@Germy Shoemangler: I still kinda like Michael Keaton. I tend to discount the reactions of studio people, but this is an interesting sign. I confess that I want this movie to be good. And I need major redemption from Star Wars.
BTW, Affleck has now played both Superman (in the movie about George Reeves) and Batman. Not bad.
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Monkeyfister
@Davebo: EXACTLY!!! Argo is the Brand I reach for at the Kroger, but I sure as hell want to know which Brands are adding aluminum to their corn starch, now! I mean, people still use corn starch on their babies.
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delk
@Bex: Used to drive by it when I visited my mother. Had a friend that went to Argo High School.
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beltane
I recently saw an ad for gluten-free hair dye, maybe for those women with celiac disease who enjoy guzzling down bottles of Clariol but find they can’t tolerate all the gluten.
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JPL
@Germy Shoemangler: Country music is filled with the little woman lyrics.
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WaterGirl
@ultraviolet thunder: Not intended as a criticism, just being silly. But maybe it’s too soon for lighthearted silliness.
BTW, Affleck has now played both Superman (in the movie about George Reeves) and Batman. Not bad.
He will be directing an upcoming Batman film after the release of Snyder’s Batman V. Superman.
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Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@raven: These are things that were in your house, blocking various openings? We had the bottom of a coffee can blocking the stovepipe where it entered the chimney in our cabin, ca 1923. Not as old as your house, I’m guessing.
@JPL: The Appalachian and, going further back, English folk music that Country music derives from is mostly about murder and lesser forms of domestic violence. Most of the songs in the American Anthology of Folk Music are about violence or Jeebus.
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Omnes Omnibus
@beltane: It’s not like opera is short of trigger events.
The Appalachian and, going further back, English folk music that Country music derives from is mostly about murder and lesser forms of domestic violence. Most of the songs in the American Anthology of Folk Music are about violence or Jeebus.
Tuvan throat singing seems to be free of sexist, violent imagery.
As far as you know…
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beltane
The old, “single-acting” baking powder contained aluminum salts, and was not as effective as the double-acting baking powder commonly used today. Maybe there are still some nonagenarians out there who want to make sure they’re buying the newfangled aluminum free baking powder.
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lamh36
@the Conster: Umm…umm..ummm…never trusted ole dude…shit, I’m on a “diet” and needs to lose beaucoup weight…who da fuq is gonna be eating just sammiches from Subway!!!!…all the damn time…smh
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goblue72
@Germy Shoemangler: I will wait until the test audience / early reviews come out. A circle jerk of studio execs and production crews isn’t exactly all that informative. The guys at ILM probably gave George a standing ovation for Phantom Menace before it was released.
I’m sure it will do just as well as any of the other endless series of blockbuster superhero action movies these days – Thor 3: Loki Goes to College anyone? But guessing over the longer haul it will be pretty unmemorable and the Christopher Nolan trilogy is going to stand the test of time.
I’ve gotten a series of scam phone calls today. It seems the IRS is suing me and this is my last notice!
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beltane
@goblue72: Maybe not, but violence, mostly against women, has been a feature of popular music since people started singing about all the goings on around their hunter-gatherer encampments.
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goblue72
@Brachiator: Rewatching that original Batman movie with Keaton, I find that Keaton’s performance was not all that bad – and in many ways, superior to Nicholson’s over the top schtick.
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ultraviolet thunder
Speaking of vice and violence, cheaters everywhere just broke a sweat. The Ashley Madison data seems to have been dumped.
I think the point about F. Gary Gray being complicit in excusing the attack when he was an actual eyewitness is the most damning one. From everything I’ve heard, Dre is one of those guys that everyone knows is abusive but no one is willing to stop working with.
Domestic violence is still the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about — not just with famous people, but with non-famous ones, too.
I will wait until the test audience / early reviews come out. A circle jerk of studio execs and production crews isn’t exactly all that informative. The guys at ILM probably gave George a standing ovation for Phantom Menace before it was released.
You’re probably right, but there have been many times with other films when studio execs have reacted nervously to a rough cut and demanded re-shooting and editing. And told marketing “no previews!”
After watching the movie, WB’s higher-ups allegedly called Affleck the “definitive Batman”
I still go HUH? everytime I think about them casting Affleck as Batman.
Seeing will be believing…
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jl
@Davebo: I think it is a common ingredient in ‘double acting’ baking powder. There are a variety of acidic compounds used to provide the acid needed to make the dough rise, and the ones used to make the dough rise during baking are not that familiar to most people.
Most people who have not tried and read up on baking, just think of the ingredients in single acting baking powder, so think of sodium bicarbonate and cream of tartar.
a very bad part of me wants to see the name list, but some times it’s much better to mind your own fucking business.
If this is the real data it won’t be long before we begin to see the results. The site was hugely popular, and if a fraction of the users are still married there will be high profile consequences for misbehavior.
OTOH, if someone was stepping out with their spouse’s approval for some reason that’s nobody else’s business.
ETA: This data is a gold mine for divorce lawyers looking for business.
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craigie
Pardon me while I whip this out…
I saw the Sex Pistols at Winterland in ’76, the last show they did before Sid died. I was a teenager and very intimidated by the whole punk thing. Later, I realized a lot of it was theater and not really that scary.
A similar thought hit me while watching Straight Outta Compton – at the time, everyone was freaking out about the gangsta thing, but watching it from a safe (time) distance, it just seemed like crazy dance music. With a side of violence and bad behavior, but that’s show biz.
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Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@Germy Shoemangler: Tom Dooley springs instantly to mind. While maybe not all that old (not sure how old it is) it was the first song I heard that referenced violence against a woman.
@beltane:
There are still plenty of baking powders that contain aluminum salts. For example, Calumet and Clabber Girl both contain sodium aluminum sulfate.
Heh. One of the people in my Facebook opera group wants to introduce a friend to opera, but said friend is apparently incapable of handling the concept of death*. FB person asked for the group’s help in listing operas that involved neither death nor the threat of death, nor any discussion or mention of death.
Eliminates pretty much all of the Big Warhorses. You could do most of the Mozart comedies, of course, and some Rossini — but forget about Carmen, Aïda, La Traviata, Madama Butterfly, Tosca, La Bohème, Tristan & Isolde, even Hansel & Gretel.
*(Yeah, I know. She’s going to have a, shall we say, challenging time in real life; forget trying to identify non-triggering operas!)
The Ashley Madison data seems to have been dumped.
It seems very likely that this was an inside job. The specific demands of the person revealing the data seem like an employee trying to get the last word in on a dispute over business ethics.
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jl
@Germy Shoemangler: Thanks. Nice throat singing there. I didn’t know the little women could do it.
I found a lesson for the ladies of BJ! I guess guys do it the same way, but I’m not going to try. Afraid my throat will hurt.
Our friends at the NSA gave us a thumb drive with a few of the more interesting emails. We’ll just tell you we recovered them from the “wiped” server.
The FBI may be able to recover at least some data from Hillary Clinton’s private email server even though there was an attempt to wipe it, two sources with direct knowledge of the process told NBC News on Tuesday.
It seems very likely that this was an inside job. The specific demands of the person revealing the data seem like an employee trying to get the last word in on a dispute over business ethics.
Agreed. Score settling is the only diagnosis that fits the symptoms. But I have to wonder what kind of person would put so many strangers at risk for so little.
The FBI may be able to recover at least some data from Hillary Clinton’s private email server even though there was an attempt to wipe it, two sources with direct knowledge of the process told NBC News on Tuesday.
So far, from what I have read, this BS scandal concerns two types of super duper tip top ultra secrets. Stuff that was classified at a later date, and stuff that looks similar to classified stuff but appears to be from other unclassified sources. So they are investigating real important stuff like like whether somebody was quoting unclassified sources for more or less same info in order to discuss issues that might be related to classified material but didn’t want to cite classified sources. And speaking as someone who once had a top secret classification for work, and even weirder ones, that kind of thing is as common as dirt.
And a lot of the fuss over classification is due to all the FOIAs for the emails.
So far, IMHO, a BS perpetual motion scandal machine, about BS.
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lamh36
@niaCNN
Huckabee: MLK would be ‘appalled’ by Black Lives Matter movement @CNNPolitics http://cnn.it/1TSxh9t
It also made a bonafide star out of Michael B. Jordan.
MBJ was already a star thanks to “Friday Night Lights.” That was one hellaciously well acted TV series.
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Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@Cervantes: I went and checked after I posted that. Quite a tangled story.
My interest in the song in this instance is that it was my first exposure to the idea, as a young child. I was 7 or 8 when it hit the radio, and there was a film that used the music but not the original story the next year; it was considered suitable for children. It was part of the summer film program for kids, where you paid $3.00 and saw a movie every week.
Sword of Lancelot was especially gory.
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JPL
@Baud: There is a tropical disturbance in the Atlantic that could take their attention away from the missing emails.
Re: Tosca. Doesn’t Tosca stab the villain to death at the end of the second act? That strikes me as some serious female agency.
For the most part, though, I agree with your list, and would add to it Lady MacBeth of Mtsensk. Madame divF keeps wanting to rewrite the ending of that one to not have the heroine commit suicide by jumping off a bridge, but to have her push the ex-boyfriend off said bridge.
ETA:I should have read the posting more carefully, You were eliminating based on death, not on feminist grounds. I immediately jumped to the latter conclusion based on the other comments in the thread, plus our own household opinions.
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jl
@Gimlet: We’ll have to agree to disagree on that point.
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Gimlet
@JPL: We seem to get one most years around Labor Day.
@Baud: So, far there is no scandal about HRC or anyone putting material in the damn emails that was classified at that time. It is total BS, so far. It’s about nothing but the Byzantine and Kafkaesque world of US security classification bureaucracy theater.
Apparently, from what I discerned, no death at all whatsoever is permitted by her friend’s aversion. So L’elisir would be right out (although uncle dies off-stage, so maybe….)
Re: Tosca. Doesn’t Tosca stab the villain to death at the end of the second act? That strikes me as some serious female agency.
Yes, she does. And then in Act Three, the hero Cavaradossi is shot to death (firing squad) and Floria Tosca flings herself over a parapet to her own death. So it’s a trifecta, and not at all recommended for the friend of the Person on Facebook.
As for Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District, it too is full of blood and gore, but in any case I don’t think I’d call it a “warhorse.”
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burnspbesq
Rosenkavalier has a body count of zero, IIRC, but the story isn’t exactly a feminist manifesto.
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JPL
@Gimlet: Anderson Cooper is packed and ready to go. (just in case)
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Right to Rise
Looks like Perry and Christie are on the verge of dropping out.
But I have to wonder what kind of person would put so many strangers at risk for so little.
And the response seems ethically incompatible with the complaint. The complainer didn’t like that they company wasn’t actually erasing people’s records when they paid to have them erased. In what sane world is revealing records a logical response to that?
@beltane: I could do with a little more violent imagery in country music nowadays, because most I hear is about how much some shitkicker likes trucks and football and beer and god and the flag, usually sung with the most infantile lyrics possible to go with a ridiculous twangy accent.
Fanciula, no (potential hanging, averted at the last second — remember, this person cannot tolerate even the prospect of death). Fille du Régiment, by all means — a delightful fluffmuffin of an opera, with wonderful music and zany action and no death at all.
Not the first, nor even the second, recording of it to hit the radio, but a good one.
A few years earlier, Paul Clayton collected and sang a number of “British and American Murder Ballads” and “Tom Dula” was included. I still have the album. Ken Goldstein’s notes are here.
Anyhow, I must stop recollecting now. Have a great evening!
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Mike G
With the unexpected success of Straight Outta Compton, we can expect the unimaginative suits of Hollywood to greenlight an oversaturating churn of inferior hack films about ‘gangsta’ culture until we are all sick of the subject.
Though maybe we’ll get some interesting crossover projects like this one… Barney With Attitude
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jl
@Mike G: I thought that would be a gritty documentary about Congressional OG Barney Frank.
Unfortunately, this level of sensitivity eliminates The Mikado and The Pirates of Penzance.
ETA: Also HMS Pinafore . Sigh.
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Amir Khalid
@Right to Rise:
Perry and Christie were never really in competition, no matter what they tell themselves. Speaking of which, when does Jeb plan to start campaigning like he really means it?
ETA: Or will the Great Clearing include him too?
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beltane
@The Other Chuck: It’s a sure sign that Country’s gone suburban, they rarely sing about actual rural life anymore. Maybe I should try writing songs about the local gossip here.
I never forget Gilbert and Sullivan :-) and I think most of the comments pretty much came down to “stick with operetta and musical theatre.”
(To be clear, this is not someone I know, just a friend of a random person who is one of 5,000 or so members of an opera discussion group I belong to. Not that it matters.)
I don’t look for feminist manifestos when I go to the opera. Along with suspending disbelief, in order to accept the absurd plots, I suspend my social/political views so I can enjoy the music, the acting, the stagecraft, etc. Time enough over a post-operatic glass of wine to say, well, Cio-Cio-San was really kind of a wimp, she should have taken a hard line with Pinkerton.
I think Rosenkavalier would be a great introduction to opera.
sorry to interject, but damn, hate, hate, hate what I have been lately.
sorry everyone, sorry, I have been such a dick.
sorry.
carry on.
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Goblue72
@beltane: So was a lot of stuff. It used to be ok to take your wife, enslave people, stone the unclean, etc. As civilization becomes more civilized, some stuff stops being ok.
Or can I go around talking about darkies just because 100 years ago people did that?
Go apologize directly and honestly to the person you most directly offended.
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Little Boots
everyone still hate me?
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Kay
Scott Walker has sought to reassure jittery donors and other supporters this week that he can turn around a swift decline in the polls in Iowa and elsewhere by going on the attack and emphasizing his conservatism on key issues.
Yay! Let’s hope this is really slow and humiliating! :)
In a conference call, one-on-one conversations and at a Tuesday lunch, the Wisconsin governor and favorite of anti-union conservatives told backers that his campaign is shifting to a more aggressive posture and will seek to tap into the anti-establishment fervor fueling the rise of Donald Trump and other outsider candidates.
his campaign is shifting to a more aggressive posture and will seek to tap into the anti-establishment fervor fueling the rise of Donald Trump and other outsider candidates.
Scott Walker’s not going to win the nomination, let alone the presidency, by riding on another candidate’s coat-tails. Who on earth is advising him?
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Little Boots
seriously? I am pissed? I am never pissed.
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beltane
@Kay: Walker’s setting himself up to be swatted down by Trump in the most humiliating manner possible.
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Little Boots
who did I offend?
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jl
@Kay: So, instead of being a bland inoffensive soft spoken doctrinaire extremist, he is going to be a colorful offensive blowhard doctrinaire extremist? And that will help him?
And if anyone dares criticize take-out hot rolls and ham, Walker is going to start a twitter war?
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Sibelius
@SiubhanDuinne: Well, Figaro and the Serail aren’t a bad way to start!
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Little Boots
i miss omnes. I totally miss omnes. there is that.
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raven
@SiubhanDuinne: I know you have a big heart but just ignore the little shit will you please?
It’s a sure sign that Country’s gone suburban, they rarely sing about actual rural life anymore.
The way it was explained to me is that Country music is actually the music of people who were forced to move out of the country and are pining for their lost way of life. That’s why it’s so sad and whiny; it’s nostalgia for a lost way of life. Now, though, the people singing Country are second and third generation city dwellers whose idea of living in the country is second or third hand, and whose lyrics about country life reflect repeating earlier Country music rather than any actual memories of it.
@Amir Khalid: he’s not interesting enough to be brash. He could call for the forced confiscation of private property and the nationalization of all bank accounts, and he’d still look like the guy the establishment backed. He oozes beige.
He’s a one trick pony. “We all hate labor unions” peaked in 2010. You saw Chris Christie make one desperate last jab at public school teachers. Did that work the ‘ol Christie magic? No, it did not. Screaming at teachers is not a long-term career plan :)
Also, something to look forward to? Rand Paul has to lose too.
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John Revolta
When I saw the Ashley Madison story upthread I thought I was still on the last thread, about deflating balls……………………..
seriously though, I wonder if this is connected to the missing Clinton emails?
It would be irrespecular not to sponsulate………………………
I wanna go home, I wanna go home
Oh, how I wanna go home.
Last night I went to sleep in Detroit City
And I dreamed about those cottonfields and home
I dreamed about my mother dear, old papa, sister and brother
I dreamed about that girl who’s been waiting for so long
I wanna go home, I wanna go home, oh, how I wanna go home.
Homefolks think I’m big in Detroit City
From the letters that I write they think I’m fine
But by day I make the cars, by night I make the bars
If only they could read between the lines.
‘Cause you know I rode the freight train north to Detroit City
And after all these years I find I’ve just been wastin’ my time
So I just think I’ll take my foolish pride
And put it on a Southbound freight and ride.
And go on back to the loved ones, the ones that I left waitin’ so far behind.
I wanna go home, I wanna go home,
Oh, how I wanna go home…
Rewatching that original Batman movie with Keaton, I find that Keaton’s performance was not all that bad – and in many ways, superior to Nicholson’s over the top schtick.
I watched it recently and found the whole movie dated and silly. I can’t believe how badly it holds up, especially in comparison to the Nolan films.
I’ve come to realize I’m not a Tim Burton fan.
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jl
@Kay: Walker will try to parlay union bashing into foreign policy expertise again, except he will yell.
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Little Boots
and damn, by the way, god, I have been such a dick. by the way. hate what I have been lately.
I don’t know, but after him we’re left with Bush v Kasich and they’re exactly the same so one of them is redundant. “B” comes before “K” so let’s do ABC order and just call that for Bush.
191.
jl
@Right to Rise: I’d still like some posts on algebra, when you are in the mood.
i will try, beltane, I am so sorry, cause I miss omnes, as you all know. I know, I miss all of you, but mostly omnes.
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Amir Khalid
@Right to Rise:
Walker has hardly enough support left to count, let alone be worth stealing. And if Jeb gets any slower and steadier, he’s going to keep on sinking into the ground.
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JPL
@John Revolta: 15,000 addresses were military or government so there could be a connection. There is one problem, though, Hillary used a private server. I wonder if she texted Brady though.
@Kay: Marco Rubio actually criticized Trump’s immigration plan, if it is even worthy of being a called a plan. I was kind of shocked.
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JPL
@Amir Khalid: Cruz, Carson and Paul are more in tune with Trump. The latest polling shows if they drop out, Trump is close to fifty. I’m sure that Jeb’s camp hopes they don’t drop out.
Right after we shot a now-angry Cube and they shouted, “Cut!” one of the producers said, “We’re going to put that in.” I said, “Hell no.” I wasn’t even thinking about being attacked at the time, I was just afraid that they were going to shoot each other. I didn’t want to be part of that. “This is no laughing matter,” I tried telling them. “This is no joke. These guys take this stuff seriously.” I was told by executives that I was being emotional. That’s because I’m a woman. They would have never told a man that. They would have taken him seriously and listened.
Worst crossover title I ever saw was a kids’ video called The Clan of the Care Bears. Really funny in-joke on someone’s part, but it still felt wrong somehow. Save that crap for third-rate porn movies, e.g., Bend Me Like Beckham, Men in Back, etc., etc.
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Little Boots
omnes, I know you hate me, but can we talk? can you not hate me?
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Little Boots
and as for steeplejack?
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good lord, watching Trump debate O’Reilly about “anchor babies” (on MSNBC), arguing that “many lawyers” say the 14th Amendment does not guarantee birth right citizenship.
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Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
Not that I would know (he said piously) but those sound very much like the titles of actual pr0n movies.
@Joel: Wasn’t Fruitvale Station a real bummer, though? Dre and Cube are selling some sort of feel good underdogs make good story, and who doesn’t eat that up with a spoon? (People who know better. We’re no fun.)
211.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Following the Wilmore joke: Trump said it, so Trump knows it must be true.
Earlier I made a list of GOPer pres hopefuls’ stands on birthright citizenship, from
Turns out that ‘a good chunk’ is almost half of them. GOP outreach continues.
Against or leaning against:
Trump
Walker
Graham
Jindal
Paul
Santorum
Christie
For:
Fiorina
Jeb!?
Huckabee
Rubio
For and Against:
Kasich
Hiding out:
Cruz
No mention:
Carson
Gimore
Pataki
Perry
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Little Boots
omnes? I know you hate me. but no music?
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Another Holocene Human
@Roger Moore: Damn you, I thought it would be an announcement of oral contraception for men.
Of course there’s the old codger’s tale about soaking in a really hot tub of water. (Science says it works, you can google the details. Not sure I’d trust that, though.)
Well, I made up the Beckham one and think I made up the other one, too, but there definitely could be multiple independent coinage. Once you start thinking along those lines—which I don’t recommend for the pious—it can become hard to stop.
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Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader
@jl: That’s just mainstreaming the libertarian’s position. They’ve been talking about repealing the 14th since forever.
The Ashley Madison data seems to have been dumped.
Their PR folks are now desperately defending the indefensible:
Avid Life Media condemned the release of the data.
“This event is not an act of hacktivism, it is an act of criminality. It is an illegal action against the individual members of AshleyMadison.com, as well as any freethinking people who choose to engage in fully lawful online activities,” the company said in a statement.
Whenever anyone justifies an activity as “fully lawful” you know that even they think it stinks.
Things will get interesting now. The data was dumped because Ashley Madison refused to close down, but the site was threatened not because it was perceived as immoral, but because it was (allegedly) a scam:
Now everyone gets to see their data…. Keep in mind the site is a scam with thousands of fake female profiles. See ashley madison fake profile lawsuit; 90-95% of actual users are male. Chances are your man signed up on the world’s biggest affair site, but never had one. He just tried to. If that distinction matters.
I watched it recently and found the whole movie dated and silly. I can’t believe how badly it holds up, especially in comparison to the Nolan films.
Hmmm. Let me think about it for a second. Nope. I’m pretty sure you’re totally wrong. A little dated sure, but Burton and Nolan are going after different things, and both succeed. I also don’t see much point in a Batman death match. Hell, both movies might lose out to the animated series, two falls out of three.
I still go HUH? everytime I think about them casting Affleck as Batman.
That was pretty much the response to casting Micheal Keaton as Batman way back in 89, but he turned out to be pretty good. So I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. A possible fallback is that if he plays it like a simplified two-dimensional comic book character it will be – appropriate.
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PurpleGirl
@Little Boots: No, we ARE tired of your postings. I didn’t read the thread where you were dick and I don’t want to. I want you to stop this incessant apologizing. If there is ONE person who you were the most dickish to… Tell that person you are sorry. Only way to get back to acceptable.
I think Marco Rubio is talented at politics. It won’t matter in 2016 but he’ll be back (if he isn’t the VP pick, that is). He’ll be one of the few who will benefit from the exposure, IMO. Walker’s one and done. This is it for him.
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John Revolta
@Another Holocene Human: Hey, that reminds me! Polish scientists have invented a morning-after pill for men!
C’mon, you damn hippies, these are the JOKES!
@raven: I had that 45!! I loved the bendy-note guitar part.
Steady as she goes, slow and steady wins the race.
This reminds me of a children’s book I read ages ago but I can remember nothing except that there was one character who kept talking like that, insisting he was going to win as his chances got grimmer and grimmer (and eventually lost, of course). Getting old stinks.
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PurpleGirl
@Little Boots: So shut up and just write neutral, regular stuff and music posts. Okay.
And the response seems ethically incompatible with the complaint. The complainer didn’t like that they company wasn’t actually erasing people’s records when they paid to have them erased. In what sane world is revealing records a logical response to that?
Sounds like the kind of thing a very frustrated autistic person with no social skills would do.
I know that sounds flip, but … so there was this guy, he was diagnosed with Asperger’s, and he couldn’t stand the sound of rubber windshield wipers scraping against dry window. Like, it’s annoying, but for many people with autism it’s REALLY INSANELY annoying because of their sensory/perception issues. But what he really couldn’t stand was that the driver of the vehicle wasn’t turning the wipers off immediately when it stopped raining. It made no sense! So he argued. And he argued. And the driver refused. And he finally had enough. So he gets out and takes his cup and he flings it at the window. Now there’s a reason for the wipers to be moving. See!
I think he was the most surprised of all when there were consequences to him for this little stunt.
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Joel
@redshirt: The Nolan Batman series, like the Raimi Spiderman series, is two bad movies sandwiched around one excellent one. Burton has made a lot of terrible shit since Batman, but those movies were pretty damned good in their own right.
That’s just mainstreaming the libertarian’s position. They’ve been talking about repealing the 14th since forever.
I thought that the libertarian position was open borders and free markets. Extreme libertarians don’t seem to believe in countries or borders.
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Matt Smith
That pic makes my head hurt. I tried taking containers of baking powder like that to Cuba, because I’m friends with some bakery owners who can’t get any there. I got stopped by airport security in Miami, who thought it was drugs. Oy. Blog post: My life as a mule.
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seaboogie
@Botsplainer: Thanks for the heads-up – I’m watching it on Netflix now. I live where it was filmed, and sampling some delish local wine right now.
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moderateindy
@Bex: It’s actually just Summit, IL. Because the company was so associated with the town it morphed into people calling it Summit-Argo. The high school is called Argo.
My grandmother and her friend were the first women to ever work at the Argo plant. As young women that lived in town they would show up every day at the beginning of 1st shift, wait for the hiring mamnager to get to work, then go to the employment office and ask if there were any jobs available for them. Then they would wait for the guy to leave for the day, and ask if any jobs became available during the day. They basically did that every day until he finally got sick of them and found them jobs.
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Brachiator
Poster rikyrah had some interesting posts and thoughts about the success of the movie “Straight Out of Compton” – eat it, Man From UNCLE. Ran across this in Forbes. Universal is having a pretty good year, and handled this film well. The optimistic box office estimate was in the $40 million range, but it did much better. A little mood refresher in between more serious posts.
BTW, the popularity of the film with Latino audiences is a bit interesting.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/08/16/box-office-straight-outta-compton-scores-huge-and-not-surprising-60m-weekend/
Also, a bit of trivia. No movie theaters in Compton, so people in Compton had to head straight outta Compton to see the movie.
Aqualad08
This stuff hasn’t tasted right since they got rid of the aluminum…
p.a.
Just posted the Qu’ran annunciation verses on Abbott’s FBook page. NyukNyuk
OzarkHillbilly
Speak fer yerself.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
Still one of my favorite sound-it-out jokes that pays off in the end — “damfino.” See it on action on YouTube:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyToeE5Lh9s
the Conster
Watched American Ninja Warriors (Military) last night for the first time for no reason except that it was on and I was bored, and wow. Really impressive in every way. Now I see today that two women – the first ones – made it to be Rangers. Right on sistahs, right.on. I have no upper body strength like most women, and I just can’t even.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Brachiator:
It can’t be said too many times — yes, the marketing was great, but F. Gary Gray also made a damn good movie that people across color lines ended up liking. To me, the marketing success shows what a studio can do when it gets behind a movie that it believes in.
ETA: Or, to quote the Big Cheese at my workplace, “Quality is the best business plan.”
Brachiator
Also, too. Aluminum Free Baking Soda? You need to put that on a label?
beltane
In Trump News Today, the Donald is demanding that Fox News fire Frank Luntz. Who in the GOP is safe from Trump’s ire these days?
Tokyokie
I’m still in awe that Ben Affleck won an Oscar for a movie about baking powder. But I guess his still had the aluminum in it.
beltane
Argo is mostly known for their corn starch.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: This coca cola sign was used to patch the hole in the bead board ceiling where the stovepipe used to go!
Tokyokie
@Brachiator: The major selling point for Rumsford baking powder has long been its not containing aluminum, so it is a major selling point among folks who bake a lot of cakes. Me, I’ve never used up a can before it reached its expiration date.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: And this lard can filled the pipe hole!
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
I think marketing can be over-rated. On the other hand, August is sometimes the month when studios throw movies away. And “ethnic themed” films are also sometimes thrown away. Here, the studios used the marketing effectively.
On the other hand, except for a couple of trailers, I didn’t see much of anything pushing Man From UNCLE.
ETA: the actual weekend gross of Compton was adjusted up to $60 million. Usually, the actuals are less than the weekend estimate. A very strong showing for the film.
jl
@beltane: I am pondering a joke about Trump, I think from Larry Wilmore: Trump is the kind of guy who just says stuff, and then believes it just has to be true just because he said it.
Betty Cracker
@Brachiator: I’m surprised the audience skewed so female. The album came out when I was in college, but I gotta admit I found the misogyny that seems, if not inherent, at least prevalent, in the genre off-putting. I got zero nostalgia for it, but clearly I’m not the film’s target audience.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Brachiator:
Forbes has really good, smart coverage of movie marketing for those interested in the nuts and bolts. They had a great article explaining why the marketing for “Frozen” worked so well when that movie came out.
And it was very smart of Universal to position the movie at the end of the summer when high school/college kids might not have gone back to school yet, but had already seen all of the blockbusters and were ready for something different.
Tree With Water
The lights will be on late tonight at Subway headquarters:
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/18/jared_from_subway_fogle_expected_to_plead_guilty_on_child_pornography_charges/
trollhattan
@Aqualad08:
I demand my aluminum back, along with my damn gluten!
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
Not baking soda, baking powder. Baking powder never contains aluminum metal, but some kinds contain salts of aluminum (sodium aluminum phosphate or sulfate). There are some (not completely substantiated) worries about aluminum salts having neurological effects- ISTR it was implicated in Parkinson’s disease [ETA: looks like I misremembered; it’s Alzheimer’s]- so baking powders that don’t contain aluminum salts are careful to mention this on the label.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Betty Cracker:
Ice Cube is exactly my age — seriously, we were born on the same day and date. So I’m curious to see some of our shared history (like the LA riots) from another perspective.
My workplace often shows current movies, so I’m hoping this is one that they’ll screen at some point.
Cervantes
@Brachiator:
Yes, certain Al salts have long been part of baking-powder formulations, and there are consumers now who want no part of that.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Tbogg catches Michelle Malkin [remember her?] pretending to give a shit. Also, too, return of the bassets.
kbuttle
Needs.
Moor.
ALLIGATOR!
kbuttle
And yeah, why the hell is Big Government taking all that great tasting aluminum out of our baking powder?
Germy Shoemangler
@Brachiator:
http://gawker.com/heres-whats-missing-from-straight-outta-compton-me-and-1724735910
Cervantes
@kbuttle:
So we won’t have it to make foil helmets out of?
the Conster
@Tree With Water:
I don’t think anyone will stop eating at Subway, but you have to wonder if Jared was occupied with child pr0n instead of eating. Maybe that’s a new Subway ad? “Don’t be like Jared – eat your Subway instead!”
trollhattan
Vlad waxing nostalgic for the good ol’ Soviet days, plans to display replica of the largest nuclear weapon ever exploded. Way to calm everybody down, big guy.
ThresherK
Strangely enough, I buy my Argo’s cornstarch by the 1-lb tin (sic). And it’s on some oven-faux-fried chicken right now.
(Too hot to real-fry right now.)
Baud
Where have all the heroes gone?
Germy Shoemangler
@Baud: I always got him mixed up with the guy who said “can you hear me now?” in the commercials.
Oatler.
@Aqualad08: Aluminum was the style at the time.
Bobby Thomson
Tweety is Trump’s natural constituency. Old white pompous blowhards who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
Germy Shoemangler
How rats can swim up your toilet
Any day now I expect one to announce a GOP presidential run.
Iowa Old Lady
@Germy Shoemangler: Oh god. You’ve just made my life much more exciting.
Brachiator
@Tokyokie: And now Affleck is starring as BakeMan, the Cake Crusader in the upcoming Man of Steel Fryer movie. Can’t wait to see Gal Gadot as Wonder Bread Woman.
goblue72
@Germy Shoemangler: Saw that today. Its incredibly effed up if true. And to the degree there was a legal settlement with the woman in question, it kinda begs the answer that – yes, indeed it is true.
Course, if anyone listens to NWA’s lyrics, they are incredibly misogynistic. But then, so are Eminem’s lyrics and he was rewarded with a hit movie over 10 years ago for music he just copied from Dre. I was in high school when Straight Outta Compton dropped. Even back then (late 80s), I couldn’t grok to them – the cartoon levels of “gangsta” preening, “ho” slapping and such just weren’t all that enjoyable. The beats were good, the rhyme not bad, but at end of day, their lyricism just fell flat. I was way more into what groups like Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions were preaching (and what what would soon evolve into groups like Tribe, Jungle Brothers, Black Sheep, etc.)
Even re-listening today, I can say, yeah – the music is still dope, but the message just ain’t there for me.
JPL
@Germy Shoemangler: I hate you.
Germy Shoemangler
@JPL: Believe me, I hate myself for seeing it and clicking on it and sharing it.
Brachiator
@Tree With Water:
I don’t think I will be able to look at a footlong in the same way ever again.
Uncle Cosmo
For the uninitialized, the ur-joke to which Miz Crakkuh defers is the classique “noque-noque” plaisanterie, to (half)wit:
–intermission–
Betty Cracker
@goblue72: To. Your. Credit.
Tokyokie
@Brachiator: If only most sequels and remakes weren’t half-baked.
Joel
Fogle pleads guilty.
I’m sure that I’ll be rewarded with more Subway ads.
Germy Shoemangler
Read yesterday that a rough cut of Batman v. Superman was screened for the studio execs, and got a standing ovation at the end.
http://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-early-screening/
Davebo
So is aluminum a common ingredient in baking powder?
Bex
@beltane: I remember Argo corn starch from growing up in Chicago. Glad to see they still have the corn cob lady on their label. I think it was made south of the city in Argo-Summit IL.
ultraviolet thunder
I avoid almost all fast food, but Subway is the exception. You really can get a healthy sandwich that tastes good there for a fair price. I ate one today. Seems like a little too much salt in there but that’s a minor fault.
My day started at 3:00 am in Toronto, passed through Detroit and ended in Hartford CT, where I still had a full day’s work to do when I arrived.
3 airports, 3 security checks, 2 rental cars, two planes, 2 hotels, two buses and one prototype manufacturing facility.
I was ready for a meal after all of that. And sleep.
Joel
@Brachiator: Well, that’s a good question. Fruitvale Station, a legitimately good movie without the revisionist history that plagues biopics like Compton, grossed $16 million in its entire run. A more apples-to-apples comparison would be Notorious, considered an inferior movie, which grossed $36 million.
Joel
@the Conster: American Ninja Warrior and its Japanese parent (Sasuke) are amazing shows. The obstacles are insane and the athletes even more so. Imagine if there was real money involved?
Here’s the summarized run of a two-time champion of the Japanese show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTHQ9H9kV4
Roger Moore
Taking advantage of the open thread: there is now going to be a little pink pill to go with the little blue pill.
WaterGirl
@ultraviolet thunder: I have got to stop skimming comments…
I read this as: 3 airports, 3 security checks, 2 rental cars, two planes, 2 hotels, two buses and one PROBE. I thought you were being awfully blasé about the probe at the airport, and then I re-read your sentence.
Also, where did your capital letters go?
Tree With Water
@Germy Shoemangler: “After watching the movie, WB’s higher-ups allegedly called Affleck the “definitive Batman”.
That’s only because they never gave Don Knott’s a fair shot to strut his inner bat on the big screen..
Brachiator
@Betty Cracker: People like music that’s fun or exciting and often ignore the lyrics, which are often fantasy. There’s a YouTube video of girls crying and squealing as the Rolling Stones sing Under My Thumb, and few of these women wanted to be anybody’s slave. And I didn’t know that much about NWA, but I found out in a informative review that one of them has been married to the same woman for 25 years and another has been with the same woman for over 20 years.
Germy Shoemangler
@ultraviolet thunder: Did you experience any flight delays with the massive computer glitch?
Goblue72
@Betty Cracker: Huh?
beltane
For those keeping track, Sens. Reed, Whitehouse, and Hirono are voting yes on the Iran deal. Menendez is a no.
WaterGirl
@Roger Moore: Yeah, nothing puts me in the mood like nausea, dizziness and fainting…
(It was rejected by the FDA twice for lack of effectiveness and side effects like nausea, dizziness and fainting.)
Edited punctuation.
Germy Shoemangler
@Betty Cracker: Elvis had a line in “Baby Let’s Play House”: “I’d rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man”
And John Lennon was so impressed with the lyric that he used it in a Lennon/McCartney composition “Run For Your Life”
Misogyny is a poisoned little river running through the lyrics of lots of rock ‘n roll, blues and hip hop.
Brachiator
@Joel: I don’t expect a movie biopic to be particularly accurate, especially when the principals are still alive, and one of them is a producer of the film. On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed the James Brown biopic, which also is not very accurate, but gets the Funk right.
Germy Shoemangler
@WaterGirl:
I was going to make some sort of Bill Cosby joke here, but I lack the will.
beltane
@Germy Shoemangler: And don’t forget Neil Young’s “Down by the River” or Jimi Hendrix’s “Hey Joe” among countless others.
ed
In toronto we aLways thought that joke was about our joke football team
Joel
A friend of mine once summarized Johnny Cash as the white Tupac. Sounds about right.
ultraviolet thunder
@WaterGirl:
I’m using my work laptop, which is subjected to unspeakable abuses. The keyboard malfunctions frequently. As do my fingers when I’ve been up since 3:00 am.
Joel
@Brachiator: Fair enough, but those reasons listed are pretty much why I will avoid this movie. The last biopic I watched — family coercion — was the Blind Side and it was pure, unfiltered garbage.
ultraviolet thunder
@Germy Shoemangler:
This is the first I’ve heard of it. I flew out of Toronto at 6:30 am and have been moving fast until more or less this moment. Guess I have to catch up on the day’s events.
That’s one drawback of being in Canada: NPR beats CBC all hollow for news.
Peale
While Argo is a fine name for a cornstarch, I find nothing wrong with Wingobat.
Goblue72
@Joel: I liked Fruitvale Station.
Also, it’s budget was $900,000. It did $17MM at the box office. Not a bad ROI.
To match, SOC will need to gross $500MM at the box office.
Just saying.
Brachiator
@Germy Shoemangler: I still kinda like Michael Keaton. I tend to discount the reactions of studio people, but this is an interesting sign. I confess that I want this movie to be good. And I need major redemption from Star Wars.
BTW, Affleck has now played both Superman (in the movie about George Reeves) and Batman. Not bad.
Monkeyfister
@Davebo: EXACTLY!!! Argo is the Brand I reach for at the Kroger, but I sure as hell want to know which Brands are adding aluminum to their corn starch, now! I mean, people still use corn starch on their babies.
delk
@Bex: Used to drive by it when I visited my mother. Had a friend that went to Argo High School.
beltane
I recently saw an ad for gluten-free hair dye, maybe for those women with celiac disease who enjoy guzzling down bottles of Clariol but find they can’t tolerate all the gluten.
JPL
@Germy Shoemangler: Country music is filled with the little woman lyrics.
WaterGirl
@ultraviolet thunder: Not intended as a criticism, just being silly. But maybe it’s too soon for lighthearted silliness.
Germy Shoemangler
@Brachiator:
He will be directing an upcoming Batman film after the release of Snyder’s Batman V. Superman.
Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@raven: These are things that were in your house, blocking various openings? We had the bottom of a coffee can blocking the stovepipe where it entered the chimney in our cabin, ca 1923. Not as old as your house, I’m guessing.
You can see it if you enlarge this a bit: https://flic.kr/p/53NKK9
beltane
@JPL: The Appalachian and, going further back, English folk music that Country music derives from is mostly about murder and lesser forms of domestic violence. Most of the songs in the American Anthology of Folk Music are about violence or Jeebus.
Omnes Omnibus
@beltane: It’s not like opera is short of trigger events.
Germy Shoemangler
@beltane:
Fueled by drunken belligerence and hungover remorse.
Germy Shoemangler
@Omnes Omnibus:
Forgot to mention opera.
Tuvan throat singing seems to be free of sexist, violent imagery.
ultraviolet thunder
@beltane:
Richard Thompson still gets it.
Davebo
@Monkeyfister:
Well, they never claim any other brands include aluminum.
goblue72
@beltane: Which nobody in 2015 actually listens to except a handful of folk music nerds you could fit inside a “cozy’ studio in Tribeca.
Omnes Omnibus
@Germy Shoemangler:
As far as you know…
beltane
The old, “single-acting” baking powder contained aluminum salts, and was not as effective as the double-acting baking powder commonly used today. Maybe there are still some nonagenarians out there who want to make sure they’re buying the newfangled aluminum free baking powder.
lamh36
@the Conster: Umm…umm..ummm…never trusted ole dude…shit, I’m on a “diet” and needs to lose beaucoup weight…who da fuq is gonna be eating just sammiches from Subway!!!!…all the damn time…smh
goblue72
@Germy Shoemangler: I will wait until the test audience / early reviews come out. A circle jerk of studio execs and production crews isn’t exactly all that informative. The guys at ILM probably gave George a standing ovation for Phantom Menace before it was released.
I’m sure it will do just as well as any of the other endless series of blockbuster superhero action movies these days – Thor 3: Loki Goes to College anyone? But guessing over the longer haul it will be pretty unmemorable and the Christopher Nolan trilogy is going to stand the test of time.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Goblue72:
It also made a bonafide star out of Michael B. Jordan. I think the last time that happened was when Jennifer Lawrence was in “Winter’s Bone.”
Iowa Old Lady
I’ve gotten a series of scam phone calls today. It seems the IRS is suing me and this is my last notice!
beltane
@goblue72: Maybe not, but violence, mostly against women, has been a feature of popular music since people started singing about all the goings on around their hunter-gatherer encampments.
goblue72
@Brachiator: Rewatching that original Batman movie with Keaton, I find that Keaton’s performance was not all that bad – and in many ways, superior to Nicholson’s over the top schtick.
ultraviolet thunder
Speaking of vice and violence, cheaters everywhere just broke a sweat. The Ashley Madison data seems to have been dumped.
Joel
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): where’s Wallace, String?
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Joel:
I think the point about F. Gary Gray being complicit in excusing the attack when he was an actual eyewitness is the most damning one. From everything I’ve heard, Dre is one of those guys that everyone knows is abusive but no one is willing to stop working with.
Domestic violence is still the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about — not just with famous people, but with non-famous ones, too.
rikyrah
@beltane:
BWA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
BWA HA HA H HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Joel
@ultraviolet thunder: a very bad part of me wants to see the name list, but some times it’s much better to mind your own fucking business.
Germy Shoemangler
@goblue72:
You’re probably right, but there have been many times with other films when studio execs have reacted nervously to a rough cut and demanded re-shooting and editing. And told marketing “no previews!”
rikyrah
@Germy Shoemangler:
I still go HUH? everytime I think about them casting Affleck as Batman.
Seeing will be believing…
jl
@Davebo: I think it is a common ingredient in ‘double acting’ baking powder. There are a variety of acidic compounds used to provide the acid needed to make the dough rise, and the ones used to make the dough rise during baking are not that familiar to most people.
Most people who have not tried and read up on baking, just think of the ingredients in single acting baking powder, so think of sodium bicarbonate and cream of tartar.
Baking powder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baking_powder
p.a.
@Omnes Omnibus: do you need an adam’s apple to produce it?: sexist.
Germy Shoemangler
@rikyrah: I felt the same way until I saw the trailer.
Now I’m a believer!
ultraviolet thunder
@Joel:
If this is the real data it won’t be long before we begin to see the results. The site was hugely popular, and if a fraction of the users are still married there will be high profile consequences for misbehavior.
OTOH, if someone was stepping out with their spouse’s approval for some reason that’s nobody else’s business.
ETA: This data is a gold mine for divorce lawyers looking for business.
craigie
Pardon me while I whip this out…
I saw the Sex Pistols at Winterland in ’76, the last show they did before Sid died. I was a teenager and very intimidated by the whole punk thing. Later, I realized a lot of it was theater and not really that scary.
A similar thought hit me while watching Straight Outta Compton – at the time, everyone was freaking out about the gangsta thing, but watching it from a safe (time) distance, it just seemed like crazy dance music. With a side of violence and bad behavior, but that’s show biz.
Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@Germy Shoemangler: Tom Dooley springs instantly to mind. While maybe not all that old (not sure how old it is) it was the first song I heard that referenced violence against a woman.
Germy Shoemangler
@p.a.:
You don’t even need a baby’s arm holding an apple.
Female Mongolian Throat Singer
Roger Moore
@beltane:
There are still plenty of baking powders that contain aluminum salts. For example, Calumet and Clabber Girl both contain sodium aluminum sulfate.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Heh. One of the people in my Facebook opera group wants to introduce a friend to opera, but said friend is apparently incapable of handling the concept of death*. FB person asked for the group’s help in listing operas that involved neither death nor the threat of death, nor any discussion or mention of death.
Eliminates pretty much all of the Big Warhorses. You could do most of the Mozart comedies, of course, and some Rossini — but forget about Carmen, Aïda, La Traviata, Madama Butterfly, Tosca, La Bohème, Tristan & Isolde, even Hansel & Gretel.
*(Yeah, I know. She’s going to have a, shall we say, challenging time in real life; forget trying to identify non-triggering operas!)
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
It sounds as if his problem is just straight violence, not necessarily domestic violence.
Botsplainer
Yay! Bottle Shock made it back to Netflix!
trollhattan
@craigie:
Johnny’s final words that night: “Have you got the feeling you’ve been cheated?”
Roger Moore
@ultraviolet thunder:
It seems very likely that this was an inside job. The specific demands of the person revealing the data seem like an employee trying to get the last word in on a dispute over business ethics.
jl
@Germy Shoemangler: Thanks. Nice throat singing there. I didn’t know the little women could do it.
I found a lesson for the ladies of BJ! I guess guys do it the same way, but I’m not going to try. Afraid my throat will hurt.
Tanya Tagaq- The sounds of throat singing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNb2ZDjeiU4
Gimlet
Our friends at the NSA gave us a thumb drive with a few of the more interesting emails. We’ll just tell you we recovered them from the “wiped” server.
The FBI may be able to recover at least some data from Hillary Clinton’s private email server even though there was an attempt to wipe it, two sources with direct knowledge of the process told NBC News on Tuesday.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Roger Moore:
The article brings both in. Dee Barnes was a friend (though not a girlfriend) of Dre’s from before the band started, so she knew his girlfriends.
Sibelius
@SiubhanDuinne: L’Elisir D’Amore? Though the uncle dies. Charming opera, I like the Gheorghiu & Alagna recording.
ultraviolet thunder
@Roger Moore:
Agreed. Score settling is the only diagnosis that fits the symptoms. But I have to wonder what kind of person would put so many strangers at risk for so little.
Baud
@Gimlet:
There’s some weasal words for ya.
the Conster
@lamh36:
Exactly. plus, what normal* person can eat the same thing day in and day out? and if you could, it would be Subway? ORLY?
*Jared is not normal, obvs.
Cervantes
@Pie Happens (opiejeanne):
The murder took place right after the Civil War. The song has been around for nearly 150 years.
Gimlet
@Baud:
Gotcha!
Bagged another Clinton in the “Rule of Law” jungle in DC.
jl
@Gimlet: You have a link?
So far, from what I have read, this BS scandal concerns two types of super duper tip top ultra secrets. Stuff that was classified at a later date, and stuff that looks similar to classified stuff but appears to be from other unclassified sources. So they are investigating real important stuff like like whether somebody was quoting unclassified sources for more or less same info in order to discuss issues that might be related to classified material but didn’t want to cite classified sources. And speaking as someone who once had a top secret classification for work, and even weirder ones, that kind of thing is as common as dirt.
And a lot of the fuss over classification is due to all the FOIAs for the emails.
So far, IMHO, a BS perpetual motion scandal machine, about BS.
lamh36
My reaction to Huck…Bish…please
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@ultraviolet thunder:
I’m guessing someone with a pretty fair amount of contempt for Ashley Madison’s clientele.
Gimlet
@jl:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/fbi-optimistic-it-can-recover-some-data-clinton-server-n411976
Baud
@Gimlet:
I expect CNN will have on someone who’s watched every episode of CSI Cyber on as an expert at some point.
Baud
@lamh36:
Ronald Reagan would be appalled at Huck’s comments.
jl
@Gimlet: Thanks for the link. And also thanks for the extremely misleading extract you used for your comment. Still BS.
burnspbesq
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
MBJ was already a star thanks to “Friday Night Lights.” That was one hellaciously well acted TV series.
Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@Cervantes: I went and checked after I posted that. Quite a tangled story.
My interest in the song in this instance is that it was my first exposure to the idea, as a young child. I was 7 or 8 when it hit the radio, and there was a film that used the music but not the original story the next year; it was considered suitable for children. It was part of the summer film program for kids, where you paid $3.00 and saw a movie every week.
Sword of Lancelot was especially gory.
JPL
@Baud: There is a tropical disturbance in the Atlantic that could take their attention away from the missing emails.
Gimlet
@jl:
The credit should go to the reporter at NBC.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne:
Re: Tosca. Doesn’t Tosca stab the villain to death at the end of the second act? That strikes me as some serious female agency.
For the most part, though, I agree with your list, and would add to it Lady MacBeth of Mtsensk. Madame divF keeps wanting to rewrite the ending of that one to not have the heroine commit suicide by jumping off a bridge, but to have her push the ex-boyfriend off said bridge.
ETA:I should have read the posting more carefully, You were eliminating based on death, not on feminist grounds. I immediately jumped to the latter conclusion based on the other comments in the thread, plus our own household opinions.
jl
@Gimlet: We’ll have to agree to disagree on that point.
Gimlet
@JPL: We seem to get one most years around Labor Day.
burnspbesq
@SiubhanDuinne:
La Fille du Regiment? La Fanicula del West?
Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@SiubhanDuinne: Merry Widow? Or is operetta right out? If so, The Daughter of the Regiment springs to mind.
Pie Happens (opiejeanne)
@burnspbesq: Jinx.
divF
@Pie Happens (opiejeanne): Grand Duchess of Gerolstein.
(OK, it’s an operetta.)
jl
@Baud: So, far there is no scandal about HRC or anyone putting material in the damn emails that was classified at that time. It is total BS, so far. It’s about nothing but the Byzantine and Kafkaesque world of US security classification bureaucracy theater.
SiubhanDuinne
@Sibelius:
Apparently, from what I discerned, no death at all whatsoever is permitted by her friend’s aversion. So L’elisir would be right out (although uncle dies off-stage, so maybe….)
@divF:
Yes, she does. And then in Act Three, the hero Cavaradossi is shot to death (firing squad) and Floria Tosca flings herself over a parapet to her own death. So it’s a trifecta, and not at all recommended for the friend of the Person on Facebook.
As for Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District, it too is full of blood and gore, but in any case I don’t think I’d call it a “warhorse.”
burnspbesq
Rosenkavalier has a body count of zero, IIRC, but the story isn’t exactly a feminist manifesto.
JPL
@Gimlet: Anderson Cooper is packed and ready to go. (just in case)
Right to Rise
Looks like Perry and Christie are on the verge of dropping out.
The Great Clearing begins!
Roger Moore
@ultraviolet thunder:
And the response seems ethically incompatible with the complaint. The complainer didn’t like that they company wasn’t actually erasing people’s records when they paid to have them erased. In what sane world is revealing records a logical response to that?
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
That doesn’t narrow things down very much.
The Other Chuck
@beltane: I could do with a little more violent imagery in country music nowadays, because most I hear is about how much some shitkicker likes trucks and football and beer and god and the flag, usually sung with the most infantile lyrics possible to go with a ridiculous twangy accent.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne:
Agreed.
Don’t forget Gilbert and Sullivan for your friend. Also operetta, but good tunes nonetheless.
rikyrah
@Botsplainer:
just added it to My List
SiubhanDuinne
@burnspbesq:
Fanciula, no (potential hanging, averted at the last second — remember, this person cannot tolerate even the prospect of death). Fille du Régiment, by all means — a delightful fluffmuffin of an opera, with wonderful music and zany action and no death at all.
Cervantes
@Pie Happens (opiejeanne):
Not the first, nor even the second, recording of it to hit the radio, but a good one.
A few years earlier, Paul Clayton collected and sang a number of “British and American Murder Ballads” and “Tom Dula” was included. I still have the album. Ken Goldstein’s notes are here.
Anyhow, I must stop recollecting now. Have a great evening!
Mike G
With the unexpected success of Straight Outta Compton, we can expect the unimaginative suits of Hollywood to greenlight an oversaturating churn of inferior hack films about ‘gangsta’ culture until we are all sick of the subject.
Though maybe we’ll get some interesting crossover projects like this one…
Barney With Attitude
jl
@Mike G: I thought that would be a gritty documentary about Congressional OG Barney Frank.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne:
Unfortunately, this level of sensitivity eliminates The Mikado and The Pirates of Penzance.
ETA: Also HMS Pinafore . Sigh.
Amir Khalid
@Right to Rise:
Perry and Christie were never really in competition, no matter what they tell themselves. Speaking of which, when does Jeb plan to start campaigning like he really means it?
ETA: Or will the Great Clearing include him too?
beltane
@The Other Chuck: It’s a sure sign that Country’s gone suburban, they rarely sing about actual rural life anymore. Maybe I should try writing songs about the local gossip here.
SiubhanDuinne
@divF:
I never forget Gilbert and Sullivan :-) and I think most of the comments pretty much came down to “stick with operetta and musical theatre.”
(To be clear, this is not someone I know, just a friend of a random person who is one of 5,000 or so members of an opera discussion group I belong to. Not that it matters.)
@burnspbesq:
I don’t look for feminist manifestos when I go to the opera. Along with suspending disbelief, in order to accept the absurd plots, I suspend my social/political views so I can enjoy the music, the acting, the stagecraft, etc. Time enough over a post-operatic glass of wine to say, well, Cio-Cio-San was really kind of a wimp, she should have taken a hard line with Pinkerton.
I think Rosenkavalier would be a great introduction to opera.
Bobby Thomson
@Germy Shoemangler: Elvis also sang
Stuck onStalking You.Cervantes
@divF:
Even “Ruddigore” is on the edge.
burnspbesq
@beltane:
There are some exceptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKltMIA6IQ
Little Boots
sorry to interject, but damn, hate, hate, hate what I have been lately.
sorry everyone, sorry, I have been such a dick.
sorry.
carry on.
Goblue72
@beltane: So was a lot of stuff. It used to be ok to take your wife, enslave people, stone the unclean, etc. As civilization becomes more civilized, some stuff stops being ok.
Or can I go around talking about darkies just because 100 years ago people did that?
SiubhanDuinne
@divF:
Ha! You’re right! Also Iolanthe and for sure The Yeomen of the Guard. And Ruddigore….
Okay, forget Gilbert and Sullivan.
SiubhanDuinne
@Little Boots:
Don’t apologize to all of us.
Go apologize directly and honestly to the person you most directly offended.
Little Boots
everyone still hate me?
Kay
Yay! Let’s hope this is really slow and humiliating! :)
Little Boots
who did I most offend?
SiubhanDuinne
@Cervantes:
All those ghostly portraits of dead Baronets? You’d better believe it’s on the edge.
Amir Khalid
@Kay:
Scott Walker’s not going to win the nomination, let alone the presidency, by riding on another candidate’s coat-tails. Who on earth is advising him?
Little Boots
seriously? I am pissed? I am never pissed.
beltane
@Kay: Walker’s setting himself up to be swatted down by Trump in the most humiliating manner possible.
Little Boots
who did I offend?
jl
@Kay: So, instead of being a bland inoffensive soft spoken doctrinaire extremist, he is going to be a colorful offensive blowhard doctrinaire extremist? And that will help him?
And if anyone dares criticize take-out hot rolls and ham, Walker is going to start a twitter war?
Sibelius
@SiubhanDuinne: Well, Figaro and the Serail aren’t a bad way to start!
Little Boots
i miss omnes. I totally miss omnes. there is that.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: I know you have a big heart but just ignore the little shit will you please?
Roger Moore
@beltane:
The way it was explained to me is that Country music is actually the music of people who were forced to move out of the country and are pining for their lost way of life. That’s why it’s so sad and whiny; it’s nostalgia for a lost way of life. Now, though, the people singing Country are second and third generation city dwellers whose idea of living in the country is second or third hand, and whose lyrics about country life reflect repeating earlier Country music rather than any actual memories of it.
Peale
@Amir Khalid: he’s not interesting enough to be brash. He could call for the forced confiscation of private property and the nationalization of all bank accounts, and he’d still look like the guy the establishment backed. He oozes beige.
Kay
@beltane:
He’s a one trick pony. “We all hate labor unions” peaked in 2010. You saw Chris Christie make one desperate last jab at public school teachers. Did that work the ‘ol Christie magic? No, it did not. Screaming at teachers is not a long-term career plan :)
Also, something to look forward to? Rand Paul has to lose too.
John Revolta
When I saw the Ashley Madison story upthread I thought I was still on the last thread, about deflating balls……………………..
seriously though, I wonder if this is connected to the missing Clinton emails?
It would be irrespecular not to sponsulate………………………
PS Try the veal, ya Goddamn dirty hippies.
raven
@Roger Moore: Bobby Bare- Detroit City
redshirt
@goblue72:
I watched it recently and found the whole movie dated and silly. I can’t believe how badly it holds up, especially in comparison to the Nolan films.
I’ve come to realize I’m not a Tim Burton fan.
jl
@Kay: Walker will try to parlay union bashing into foreign policy expertise again, except he will yell.
Little Boots
and damn, by the way, god, I have been such a dick. by the way. hate what I have been lately.
by the way.
Right to Rise
@jl:
Walker is toast.
Jeb will take his support and run with it.
Steady as she goes, slow and steady wins the race.
That’s what Jeb is going for.
beltane
@Roger Moore: By the 3rd generation, it’s very easy for feelings of longing for a lost time and place to degenerate into emotionally bankrupt cliches.
beltane
@Little Boots: Today is the first day of the rest of your life. If you hate what you have been, try to become something different.
Kay
@Amir Khalid:
I don’t know, but after him we’re left with Bush v Kasich and they’re exactly the same so one of them is redundant. “B” comes before “K” so let’s do ABC order and just call that for Bush.
jl
@Right to Rise: I’d still like some posts on algebra, when you are in the mood.
Little Boots
@beltane:
i will try, beltane, I am so sorry, cause I miss omnes, as you all know. I know, I miss all of you, but mostly omnes.
Amir Khalid
@Right to Rise:
Walker has hardly enough support left to count, let alone be worth stealing. And if Jeb gets any slower and steadier, he’s going to keep on sinking into the ground.
JPL
@John Revolta: 15,000 addresses were military or government so there could be a connection. There is one problem, though, Hillary used a private server. I wonder if she texted Brady though.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kay: Scott Walker ain’t afraid o’ nothin’!
except unfriendly questions
and his own bald spot
(via Brian Beutler)
SiubhanDuinne
@Sibelius: True!
Little Boots
omnes hates me.
beltane
@Kay: Marco Rubio actually criticized Trump’s immigration plan, if it is even worthy of being a called a plan. I was kind of shocked.
JPL
@Amir Khalid: Cruz, Carson and Paul are more in tune with Trump. The latest polling shows if they drop out, Trump is close to fifty. I’m sure that Jeb’s camp hopes they don’t drop out.
Another Holocene Human
@Germy Shoemangler:
Holy shit.
Steeplejack
@Mike G:
Worst crossover title I ever saw was a kids’ video called The Clan of the Care Bears. Really funny in-joke on someone’s part, but it still felt wrong somehow. Save that crap for third-rate porn movies, e.g., Bend Me Like Beckham, Men in Back, etc., etc.
Little Boots
omnes, I know you hate me, but can we talk? can you not hate me?
Little Boots
and as for steeplejack?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good lord, watching Trump debate O’Reilly about “anchor babies” (on MSNBC), arguing that “many lawyers” say the 14th Amendment does not guarantee birth right citizenship.
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
Not that I would know (he said piously) but those sound very much like the titles of actual pr0n movies.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Yeh, it was just that one comment. I’m done with him.
Little Boots
can I admit, sometimes I suck.
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Funny, I seem to recall your Supreme Court ruling that it does exactly that.
Little Boots
@Amir Khalid:
uh, huh.
Another Holocene Human
@Joel: Wasn’t Fruitvale Station a real bummer, though? Dre and Cube are selling some sort of feel good underdogs make good story, and who doesn’t eat that up with a spoon? (People who know better. We’re no fun.)
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Following the Wilmore joke: Trump said it, so Trump knows it must be true.
Earlier I made a list of GOPer pres hopefuls’ stands on birthright citizenship, from
A Good Chunk Of GOP Field Wants To Repeal The 14th Amendment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-good-chunk-of-gop-field-wants-to-repeal-the-14th-amendment_55d24915e4b055a6dab12015
Turns out that ‘a good chunk’ is almost half of them. GOP outreach continues.
Against or leaning against:
Trump
Walker
Graham
Jindal
Paul
Santorum
Christie
For:
Fiorina
Jeb!?
Huckabee
Rubio
For and Against:
Kasich
Hiding out:
Cruz
No mention:
Carson
Gimore
Pataki
Perry
Little Boots
omnes? I know you hate me. but no music?
Another Holocene Human
@Roger Moore: Damn you, I thought it would be an announcement of oral contraception for men.
Of course there’s the old codger’s tale about soaking in a really hot tub of water. (Science says it works, you can google the details. Not sure I’d trust that, though.)
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
Well, I made up the Beckham one and think I made up the other one, too, but there definitely could be multiple independent coinage. Once you start thinking along those lines—which I don’t recommend for the pious—it can become hard to stop.
Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader
@jl: That’s just mainstreaming the libertarian’s position. They’ve been talking about repealing the 14th since forever.
Little Boots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJYSu2OVCGM
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
YOU ARE SOMETHING.
Mandalay
@ultraviolet thunder:
Their PR folks are now desperately defending the indefensible:
Whenever anyone justifies an activity as “fully lawful” you know that even they think it stinks.
Things will get interesting now. The data was dumped because Ashley Madison refused to close down, but the site was threatened not because it was perceived as immoral, but because it was (allegedly) a scam:
Little Boots
@Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader:
sometimes I am really mad at you.
Little Boots
steeplejact, do you hate me
Brachiator
@redshirt:
Hmmm. Let me think about it for a second. Nope. I’m pretty sure you’re totally wrong. A little dated sure, but Burton and Nolan are going after different things, and both succeed. I also don’t see much point in a Batman death match. Hell, both movies might lose out to the animated series, two falls out of three.
Fair Economist
@rikyrah:
That was pretty much the response to casting Micheal Keaton as Batman way back in 89, but he turned out to be pretty good. So I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. A possible fallback is that if he plays it like a simplified two-dimensional comic book character it will be – appropriate.
PurpleGirl
@Little Boots: No, we ARE tired of your postings. I didn’t read the thread where you were dick and I don’t want to. I want you to stop this incessant apologizing. If there is ONE person who you were the most dickish to… Tell that person you are sorry. Only way to get back to acceptable.
Little Boots
@PurpleGirl:
fair enough. sorry.
Another Holocene Human
@lamh36: Fuckabuck, lusting after Bey-Bey and now speaking for Dr. King? Dude needs an intervention. Or just to shut the hell up. Yeah, that.
Little Boots
you know what is funny? I don’t hate anybody. nobody. ever. I am hated. but I do not hate anybody.
Kay
@beltane:
I think Marco Rubio is talented at politics. It won’t matter in 2016 but he’ll be back (if he isn’t the VP pick, that is). He’ll be one of the few who will benefit from the exposure, IMO. Walker’s one and done. This is it for him.
John Revolta
@Another Holocene Human: Hey, that reminds me! Polish scientists have invented a morning-after pill for men!
C’mon, you damn hippies, these are the JOKES!
@raven: I had that 45!! I loved the bendy-note guitar part.
Little Boots
and yet, I could be better. could be:
and this, for omnes, who hates me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEOMB6jyEE
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I think he was joking about the bald spot, except he’s a zombie so no one “got it”.
Fair Economist
@Right to Rise:
This reminds me of a children’s book I read ages ago but I can remember nothing except that there was one character who kept talking like that, insisting he was going to win as his chances got grimmer and grimmer (and eventually lost, of course). Getting old stinks.
PurpleGirl
@Little Boots: So shut up and just write neutral, regular stuff and music posts. Okay.
Another Holocene Human
@Roger Moore:
Sounds like the kind of thing a very frustrated autistic person with no social skills would do.
I know that sounds flip, but … so there was this guy, he was diagnosed with Asperger’s, and he couldn’t stand the sound of rubber windshield wipers scraping against dry window. Like, it’s annoying, but for many people with autism it’s REALLY INSANELY annoying because of their sensory/perception issues. But what he really couldn’t stand was that the driver of the vehicle wasn’t turning the wipers off immediately when it stopped raining. It made no sense! So he argued. And he argued. And the driver refused. And he finally had enough. So he gets out and takes his cup and he flings it at the window. Now there’s a reason for the wipers to be moving. See!
I think he was the most surprised of all when there were consequences to him for this little stunt.
Joel
@redshirt: The Nolan Batman series, like the Raimi Spiderman series, is two bad movies sandwiched around one excellent one. Burton has made a lot of terrible shit since Batman, but those movies were pretty damned good in their own right.
Brachiator
@Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader:
I thought that the libertarian position was open borders and free markets. Extreme libertarians don’t seem to believe in countries or borders.
Matt Smith
That pic makes my head hurt. I tried taking containers of baking powder like that to Cuba, because I’m friends with some bakery owners who can’t get any there. I got stopped by airport security in Miami, who thought it was drugs. Oy. Blog post: My life as a mule.
seaboogie
@Botsplainer: Thanks for the heads-up – I’m watching it on Netflix now. I live where it was filmed, and sampling some delish local wine right now.
moderateindy
@Bex: It’s actually just Summit, IL. Because the company was so associated with the town it morphed into people calling it Summit-Argo. The high school is called Argo.
My grandmother and her friend were the first women to ever work at the Argo plant. As young women that lived in town they would show up every day at the beginning of 1st shift, wait for the hiring mamnager to get to work, then go to the employment office and ask if there were any jobs available for them. Then they would wait for the guy to leave for the day, and ask if any jobs became available during the day. They basically did that every day until he finally got sick of them and found them jobs.